Tournament 2013: Who is the Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion?
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08/11/2013 07:29 PM EST
They're gonna keep this poll open until one of two things happen:

1. This month elapses.
2. Until someone creates enough troll accounts to vote Raiden up over Smoke.

Bet me!
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08/11/2013 11:25 PM EST
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They're gonna keep this poll open until one of two things happen:

1. This month elapses.
2. Until someone creates enough troll accounts to vote Raiden up over Smoke.

Smoke screwed Smoke.

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08/12/2013 02:14 PM EST
Wrap this up and call it a day.
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08/13/2013 07:50 AM EST
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I care about character storyline, gameplay, appearance. Everything else doesn't mean anything to me.


You care about storyline? Then why do you have Motaro, Reptile, Khameleon and Sektor to your sig? Have they contributed anything to the story besides being the evil punching bag? I would dare say Mileena in terms of the new story and Cyber Sub but at least those 2 didnt suck so bad in the past...
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08/13/2013 05:16 PM EST
It's a hell of a time for me to be preoccupied with moving and whatnot. I don't get to post much these days - and yes, that Khronology hasn't been forgotten about, but in the meantime, here are some totally legit facts about Smoke that trump everything mentioned so far and prove his superiority.

*He can eat ten phonebooks in twenty seconds.

*He totally founded Death Row Records.

*He singlehandedly identified 20 fossils of the Burgess Shale.

*He is responsible for the death of cheesy speed metal

*Know why Uwe Boll hasn't made any videogame movies in a while? Smoke threatened him.

*Whenever the MK9 annoucer says 'Smoke', someone Inside the continental U.S. gets cured of cancer. Just like that.

*Smoke was the Hindenburg baby.

*This one time, G1 Megatron transformed and Smoke caught him. The resulting ginfire was so awesome it caused a big bang and rebooted the universe. That is why we are alive.

*Smoke will be directing the next Fast and the Furious movie, which will last 10 minutes and be a simple montage of characters dying terribly.

*This will also be the next SAW movie.

*Smoke loves you. smile
MK Khronology: 58.49% complete...
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08/14/2013 03:50 AM EST
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You care about storyline? Then why do you have Motaro, Reptile, Khameleon and Sektor to your sig? Have they contributed anything to the story besides being the evil punching bag?

Sektor was the leader of the Tekunin and possibly have become leader of the Lin Kuei. In MKA he was the main threat to the Special Forces. He was and is far from punching bag.
Reptile is there only because of his MK4 design - I have admitted earlier many times, that besides this, there is nothing that I like about him. I haven't supported him during voting.
Khameleon made Reptile more interesting character. Aside from that - she is not bad character herself with lots of potential. She is also not pucnching bag. Learn your MK story.
Motaro is there because he is the most unique character amongst MK fighters. His situation is unique, so I made an exception for him. Motaro wasn't much of a punching bag, by the way.
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08/15/2013 03:22 AM EST
Finally!!
Though expect more fireworks about end of the voting.
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08/15/2013 04:32 AM EST
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projectzero00 Wrote:
You care about storyline? Then why do you have Motaro, Reptile, Khameleon and Sektor to your sig? Have they contributed anything to the story besides being the evil punching bag?

Sektor was the leader of the Tekunin and possibly have become leader of the Lin Kuei. In MKA he was the main threat to the Special Forces. He was and is far from punching bag.
Reptile is there only because of his MK4 design - I have admitted earlier many times, that besides this, there is nothing that I like about him. I haven't supported him during voting.
Khameleon made Reptile more interesting character. Aside from that - she is not bad character herself with lots of potential. She is also not pucnching bag. Learn your MK story.
Motaro is there because he is the most unique character amongst MK fighters. His situation is unique, so I made an exception for him. Motaro wasn't much of a punching bag, by the way.


Umm you do realise that all this nonsense doesn't relate to my question.

Sektor becoming the leader of the Tekunin has contributed anything really to the story?? Not really, just HIS story. The fact that Sindel was resurrected one the other hand, for example, has. Learn to distinguish those two. And the fact that "just recently" Sektor's ending showed him becoming grandmaster doesn't mean it is canon. You tell me to learn my MK story but have you really followed the game's storyline? Half of the endings of each character haven't been canon :S When Kitana really forms a trio with Mileena and Jade or the latter gets possesed by an unkown woman or sth come tell me. Bottom line: Sektor is only there to get his ass kicked in MK9 = Punching bag

Khameleon making Reptile a more interesting character by just being irrelevant...has contributed anything to the overall story?? He know almost nothing about her! She hasn't even been an original character in any game, we havent even seen her story with Reptile pan out and you give me Khameleon as an example on anything interesting? Yeah many characters have great potential if used correctly and to their full potential but until that happens Khameleon is irrelevant.

Btw I love Mileena she is my fav character but that doesn't mean I can't tell she has been destroyed in MK9.
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08/15/2013 06:35 AM EST
Why do you care what characters he likes? Oh and every character contributes to the story of MK big or small, and you can like a character for many reasons.

I have been a fan of MK since I played the original as a kid with my Dad. I have had many favs and now its been Kenshi since MKDA. Arguably Kenshi has barely contributed to the MK story but he is still my top character.
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08/15/2013 04:28 PM EST
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Umm you do realise that all this nonsense doesn't relate to my question.

Eh, I hoped you will figure out why I said that. Well, seems more elaborate explanation is in order.
It's not about overall contribution to the storyline. In fact quality of the characters's story have very little to do with its contribution to the main plot. Kenshi and Nitara, for example, have very good stories, while they not exactly main characters in all plots where they do appear. That is enough to consider them good characters.

About Sektor: he had become leader of the Tekunin and that allowed him to become main enemy of the Special Forces in MKA. And, subsequently, allowed for his involvement in the Taven's story. So, in short: yes, it did contributed to general storyline.
As for canonicity - seems you need better reading skills before advising something to others. I said: Sektor was the leader of the Tekunin and possibly have become leader of the Lin Kuei. Do you see "possibly" in this sentence? Because I certainly do. So, the only question is: should I explain its meaning to you, mmm?
As for him being punching bag - comparing to others...not really.

As for Khameleon - she once met with Reptile and in general their union or rivalry could have made an interesting story. As I said before - contribution to the overall plot is not a big matter.

Mileena was ruined in MK9. She is in my list of characters only because of her past (MKD and MKA in particular).
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08/18/2013 12:22 PM EST
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projectzero00 Wrote:

Umm you do realise that all this nonsense doesn't relate to my question.

Eh, I hoped you will figure out why I said that. Well, seems more elaborate explanation is in order.
It's not about overall contribution to the storyline. In fact quality of the characters's story have very little to do with its contribution to the main plot. Kenshi and Nitara, for example, have very good stories, while they not exactly main characters in all plots where they do appear. That is enough to consider them good characters.

About Sektor: he had become leader of the Tekunin and that allowed him to become main enemy of the Special Forces in MKA. And, subsequently, allowed for his involvement in the Taven's story. So, in short: yes, it did contributed to general storyline.
As for canonicity - seems you need better reading skills before advising something to others. I said: Sektor was the leader of the Tekunin and possibly have become leader of the Lin Kuei. Do you see "possibly" in this sentence? Because I certainly do. So, the only question is: should I explain its meaning to you, mmm?
As for him being punching bag - comparing to others...not really.

As for Khameleon - she once met with Reptile and in general their union or rivalry could have made an interesting story. As I said before - contribution to the overall plot is not a big matter.

Mileena was ruined in MK9. She is in my list of characters only because of her past (MKD and MKA in particular).


Are you serious? At first you start an arguement with a Smoke fan, saying how Smoke has accomplished nothing (being turned into a cyborg and stuff) and Raiden has, because he is a god and has led Earthrealm blah blah blah. And then I ask you why on earth you have Khameleon, Motaro, etc to your sig and you start making a 180 turn about how it's NOT about overall storyline but umm...quality of each character?! Yeah Sektor could "possibly" become grandmaster, the same way Smoke could "possibly" defeat Kahn and save the world from Outworld invaders (MK3), or the same way Rain could possibly destroy Earthrealm (MK9), etc. So no, you dont need to explain "possibly" to me for the simple fact that I speak with facts and not assumptions.
And btw I wont even bother to answer to you on Khameleon because right above you ramble about how you consider individual storylines important while her "relationship" with Reptile hasn't even been touched. It's all fanfic and yeah while it could make an interesting plotline, for now you can't even go there because she is totally underdeveloped to even talk about a "possibly" interesting individual story confused
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08/18/2013 12:27 PM EST
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Why do you care what characters he likes? Oh and every character contributes to the story of MK big or small, and you can like a character for many reasons.


I dont. I just asked why he dismissed Smoke as a character while having characters that have certainly not accomplished much or contributed anything to the story, in his sig. Hell my top fav characters are Mileena, Rain and Sheeva. You cant get any more useless than that when it comes to overall storyline (mayyybe not so much with Mileena in MKD but I loved her since MK2 when she was a random pallette swap).
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08/20/2013 05:04 AM EST
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Are you serious? At first you start an arguement with a Smoke fan, saying how Smoke has accomplished nothing (being turned into a cyborg and stuff) and Raiden has, because he is a god and has led Earthrealm blah blah blah. And then I ask you why on earth you have Khameleon, Motaro, etc to your sig and you start making a 180 turn about how it's NOT about overall storyline but umm...quality of each character?! Yeah Sektor could "possibly" become grandmaster, the same way Smoke could "possibly" defeat Kahn and save the world from Outworld invaders (MK3), or the same way Rain could possibly destroy Earthrealm (MK9), etc. So no, you dont need to explain "possibly" to me for the simple fact that I speak with facts and not assumptions.
And btw I wont even bother to answer to you on Khameleon because right above you ramble about how you consider individual storylines important while her "relationship" with Reptile hasn't even been touched. It's all fanfic and yeah while it could make an interesting plotline, for now you can't even go there because she is totally underdeveloped to even talk about a "possibly" interesting individual story confused

I have spoken with the facts and assumptions - you misunderstood it as me using assumptions as facts. Please, level up your comprehension and discusiion skills.
So far, I see only rambling without much of a logic instead of arguments.

Khameleon's relationship with Reptile was mentioned in her story in MKA, which is enough to build something out of that.
Bottom line: Smoke is B-tier character, who haven't accomplished much.
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08/22/2013 08:55 AM EST
Sooooo.... Who won?
why
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08/22/2013 12:13 PM EST
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Are you serious? At first you start an arguement with a Smoke fan, saying how Smoke has accomplished nothing (being turned into a cyborg and stuff) and Raiden has, because he is a god and has led Earthrealm blah blah blah. And then I ask you why on earth you have Khameleon, Motaro, etc to your sig and you start making a 180 turn about how it's NOT about overall storyline but umm...quality of each character?! Yeah Sektor could "possibly" become grandmaster, the same way Smoke could "possibly" defeat Kahn and save the world from Outworld invaders (MK3), or the same way Rain could possibly destroy Earthrealm (MK9), etc. So no, you dont need to explain "possibly" to me for the simple fact that I speak with facts and not assumptions.
And btw I wont even bother to answer to you on Khameleon because right above you ramble about how you consider individual storylines important while her "relationship" with Reptile hasn't even been touched. It's all fanfic and yeah while it could make an interesting plotline, for now you can't even go there because she is totally underdeveloped to even talk about a "possibly" interesting individual story confused

I have spoken with the facts and assumptions - you misunderstood it as me using assumptions as facts. Please, level up your comprehension and discusiion skills.
So far, I see only rambling without much of a logic instead of arguments.

Khameleon's relationship with Reptile was mentioned in her story in MKA, which is enough to build something out of that.
Bottom line: Smoke is B-tier character, who haven't accomplished much.


How did I ever ramble without arguments? I only presented facts as arguments to what you were saying. I specifically quoted the things you said about Smoke and then your favorite characters (and twisted the same thing you actually said to be sth negative for the first, and positive for the latter lol). If you call that rambling then I guess I should rest my case. We've been discussing this way too much and it seems you just don't get what I'm saying.

About Khameleon btw -> http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Khameleon

Somewhere in the "endings" section...Oh wait I see it! "Non Canonical". If that is enough for YOU to build whatever you want to, cool. But please don't present it as story development for the character coz it's not.

Bottom line: Smoke indeed is B-tier character, as is Sektor, Motaro, Khameleon and Reptile ;)
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08/22/2013 10:58 PM EST
Lol, even though Smoke won, he didn't get any recognition like when sub-zero won it last time. WTF??? Hey Mick, where's Smoke's victory page?
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08/23/2013 04:46 AM EST
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Hey Mick, where's Smoke's victory page?

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08/23/2013 07:27 AM EST
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How did I ever ramble without arguments? I only presented facts as arguments to what you were saying. I specifically quoted the things you said about Smoke and then your favorite characters (and twisted the same thing you actually said to be sth negative for the first, and positive for the latter lol). If you call that rambling then I guess I should rest my case. We've been discussing this way too much and it seems you just don't get what I'm saying.

About Khameleon btw -> http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Khameleon

Somewhere in the "endings" section...Oh wait I see it! "Non Canonical". If that is enough for YOU to build whatever you want to, cool. But please don't present it as story development for the character coz it's not.

Bottom line: Smoke indeed is B-tier character, as is Sektor, Motaro, Khameleon and Reptile ;)

Khameleon mentioned her meeting Reptile in her Bio for MKA, which is canon (or was canon for the old timeline).
Bottom line: I agree that all listed characters are b-tier.
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08/24/2013 10:20 PM EST
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Lol, even though Smoke won, he didn't get any recognition like when sub-zero won it last time. WTF???

Hey Mick, where's Smoke's victory page?


Yeah, unfortunately this one went out with a whimper instead of a bang. The first one got up to 200 pages in replies. This one only made it to 51. While I remember delays (cheaters, time off, etc.) last year, this time around they seemed to be longer and more frequent which was off putting IMO and kind of killed discussion and momentum.
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08/26/2013 10:28 PM EST
I'll make my own victory page! Forrest Demons for the win! Sektor's gonna take it next year and then Cyrax after that! LK power!
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09/08/2013 02:33 PM EST
Soooo... Who in the hell won?
why