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07/25/2011 06:45 AM (UTC)
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Ekimaru Wrote:
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Yep ,thank you. And Akari is one awesome character you did a great job on him!


Thanks and you did a spectacular job on your character too! Also I have a question which costumes the primary I couldn't tell when reading the bio.


The shirtless one is his primary..I didn't have time to polish his alternative costume grin


That's the one I like. The other one as awesome as it was reminded too much of MK ninjas ironically.tongue
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07/25/2011 10:16 AM (UTC)
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Fuck Quan Chi.

I mean, if anyone does the KAK select screen idea, Shiku gladly would take his spot.
@TheBigMistake:

While changing by sig I remembered that you asked if I had a bigger picture of Yaray's split. Well, here it is. Sorry it took me forever to show you, I just forgot tongue
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07/25/2011 10:03 PM (UTC)
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Tyron Magnum could take up Johnny Cages or Strykers spot
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07/25/2011 10:17 PM (UTC)
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@TheBigMistake:

While changing by sig I remembered that you asked if I had a bigger picture of Yaray's split. Well, here it is. Sorry it took me forever to show you, I just forgot tongue


Very very nice. I like the style, Yaray kind of looks like a time bomb that could go off at any second, i mean that in a good way. Im glad you got this far, Yaray was one of the first characters I even saw in this tourney (started at the bottom of the list and went up) and he's still one of my favs. Good luck to you homes
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07/25/2011 10:19 PM (UTC)
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If it ever comes to Ekimaru vs Yaray, I don't know what I'll do.
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Jaded-Raven
07/26/2011 12:58 AM (UTC)
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I have made a revised version of my character Cerastes' entry sheet. I have completely rewritten his bio and added an extra special move as well as added a bit to his ending.
Enjoy. ^^

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Revised Entry sheet:

-Character name: Cerastes.
-Gender: Male.
-Age: Unknown (a couple millennia).
-Height: 178 cm (about 5’8’’).*
-Weight: 70 kg (about 154 pounds).*
-Origin: Edenia, reborn in the Netherrealm.
-Alignment: Lawful Evil, is following a higher cause which causes him to do evil things.
(*I’m not 100% sure if I’ve converted height and weight correctly to U.S. standard.)

Character bio:
Cerastes was born into slavery under Shao Kahn’s rule. His parents were Edenian, but their heritage was taboo due to the fact that Shao Kahn’s “daughter” was born Edenian as well, but her heritage was kept secret from her and thus the people was forbidden to speak of the matter. It also meant that Cerastes did not know of his heritage either. In secrecy of the night, Cerastes and other slaves met and trained their fighting skills in the darkness of the Living Woods. Cerastes' hatred for the emperor was nurtured as his fighting prowess grew. In order to protect him, his parents tried to stop him from going to the nightly meetings, but Cerastes refused to listen to their words of reasoning. In a desperate attempt to make him listen, they revealed their Edenian origin and how they were forced to surrender to Shao Kahn. Cerastes saw this as his parents siding with the emperor, and thus in anger he murdered them both, calling them traitors. The ruckus alarmed the guards who barged into the humble home and found a bloodied Cerastes standing over the corpses. Cerastes attempted escape, but was eventually killed by the guards.

Due to the hatred dwelling inside his soul and the fact that he had murdered his own parents, Cerastes was reborn in the depths of the Netherrealm. There he met a man, a grand warrior, who could sense Cerastes’ killing instinct and found potential in him. In order to bring it out, the warrior attacked him and forced him to defend himself. In the heat of battle, Cerastes suddenly felt a surge of power flow through his body which manifested into psionic blades from his hands. The warrior was pleased with what he saw and stopped the fight. He introduced himself as Reiko, member of the Brotherhood of the Shadows, and invited Cerastes to meet his master, an invitation Cerastes warily accepted. Reiko brought him to his master, Quan Chi, who could also sense the potential in him and thus had Cerastes join the Brotherhood under Reiko’s tutoring, preparing him for the coming of Shinnok.

After Cerastes had completed his training, he was ordered to kill the enemies of Shao Kahn whom Quan Chi had an alliance with. Cerastes contempt for Shao Kahn was hard for him to hide, something Reiko quickly picked up on. In secrecy, Reiko told Cerastes of his past as a former Outworldian under Shao Kahn’s rule, but was killed due to defiance. He could feel the hatred Cerastes had for the emperor and thus altered his orders – telling him that he must also kill any of Kahn’s minions he encountered. Not certain why he was allowed to kill the soldiers of an ally, Cerastes did not question Reiko, but was merely pleased by the fact that he could now take revenge on his former suppressors.

Fighting style:
Cerastes fighting style is based on speed and ruthless knockdowns. He has the movement and behaviour of a serpent, being very fluid and looking almost boneless in the way he moves (think Voldo from Soul Calibur). His style contains mostly attacks where he spins around with swinging arms and kicks, the blades attached to the armour on his arms and legs slicing the opponent. He uses his arms and legs in an equal measure and always attempts to cut or stab the opponent with his blades. He sometimes conjures his psionic blades from his hands which he uses to stab with rather than slice, like fangs of a viper. His fighting style is very combo-based, the last punch or kick either leaves the opponent staggering or knocked down.

Special moves:
-Stabbing Fangs: Much like Baraka’s Blade Charge, Cerastes dashes fast forward, fists first with crimson psionic blades from his hands , stabbing both of them into the opponent’s chest and knocks the opponent off his/her feet.
--Enhanced version: Cerastes dashes forward and stabs the opponent twice in the chest, the first stab staggering the opponent, the second stab knocking him/her off his/her feet.

-Snake Whip Kick: Cerastes spins around in three sweeping kicks, the first two kicks leaving the opponent staggering, the third kick sweeping him/her off his/her feet.
--Enhanced version: Cerastes spins five times instead of three times, the first four kicks leaving the opponent staggering, the fifth kick sweeping him/her off his/her feet.

-Bite of the Viper: Cerastes slides fast forward across the ground like a slithering snake and grabs the opponent by his/her leg, slithering like a snake up behind the opponent, sitting crouched on his/her shoulders, then conjures a psionic blade from one hand and stabs it into the back of the opponent’s head. He then jumps off in a backward flip.
--Enhanced version: Cerastes slides further, stabs the opponent three times and kicks the opponent into the ground when flipping backwards.

-Spineless Serpent: Cerastes is able to avoid incoming attacks by dodging it due to his incredible agility, and then slithers around the opponent while the blades on his armour is slicing him/her up, only to end up standing behind him/her.
--Enhanced version: Cerastes slithers around the opponent like a snake a few more times, doing more damage.

-Tail Slash Kick: Cerastes quickly turns his back on the opponent, then jumps backwards/towards the opponent in a somersault and does an axe kick mid-air, kicking the opponent into the ground.
--Enhanced version: Cerastes does an axe kick with both legs, hitting the opponent twice.

Command Attack:
-Hissing Slash: Cerastes swings his arm vertically upwards, slashing the opponent up in the air, leaving him/her open for juggles.

Throws:
-Forward: Cerastes slithers around the opponent like a snake, grabs the opponents head in between his legs, then spins backwards with the opponent and slams him/her into the ground, standing on his/her head. He then jumps backwards in a somersault, landing where the opponent stood before.

-Backwards: Cerastes slithers around the opponent like a snake, then ends up standing on the opponent’s shoulders, facing the same way as the opponent. He then lets himself fall forward, holding the opponent’s head with his feet as he flips around right before landing on the ground, breaking the opponent’s neck and has him/her twirling in the air over him, landing face first into the ground on the other side of Cerastes.

X-ray attack:
-Horned Viper: Cerastes jumps the opponent with his knees up, the blades on his knees crushing the opponent’s chest, fracturing the ribs. The opponent falls backwards with Cerastes on top of him/her who then conjures a psionic blade from his hand and stabs it into the opponent’s skull, breaking it and the psionic blade slicing right through the opponent’s brain. He then makes a forward somersault, spins around himself and hisses at the opponent in a taunting fashion.

Round entrance taunt:
Cerastes enters the stage sliding forward like a slithering snake, then stands up and grins wickedly in a sadistic manner while getting ready in his fighting stance, laughing slightly to himself.

Mid-match taunt:
If standing close from the opponent, Cerastes slithers quickly away and laughs slightly to himself while getting ready in his fighting stance. If he is standing away from the opponent, Cerastes conjures a psionic blade from his hand and says “Aren’t we having fun?” in a teasing manner before getting ready in his fighting stance again.

End-match taunt:
Bloodied from the match, Cerastes wipes the blood from his face and licks it off his fingers while laughing slightly to himself, saying “Tasty” as he licks his lips, grinning wickedly. If he wears his alternate costume, Cerastes takes his mask off first.

Fatalities:
-Slithering Serpent: Cerastes jumps the opponent and slithers around him, letting the blades from his armour slicing the opponent up. After having sliced the opponent up a bit, he jumps off behind him/her and then kicks the opponent in the back, the opponent being all sliced up having his/her limbs torn from his/her body and flying forward.

-Silent Creeper: Cerastes conjures a psionic blade from his hand, slicing the opponent’s throat with it. While the opponent attempts to stop the bleeding and gurgles in his/her own blood, Cerastes walks over to him/her with a wide, wicked grin across his lips. He softly pushes the opponent over who falls to the ground, lying lifeless in a pool of blood. Cerastes kneels down next to the opponent, laughing slightly to himself while making cuts at the opponent’s chest with his psionic blade, just for fun.

Character appearance:
Cerastes is a young-looking man who has an athletic, lean body, being quite agile with broad shoulders, strong arms, a slim waist and long legs. He is quite pale, almost as white as Quan Chi, his eyes all white like Reiko and with black eyeliner around his eyes. From the outer corners of his eyes, next to his temples, are tattood black lines which arc slightly down his cheeks, appearing like a snake’s fangs. His lips are pale, his teeth white and he has attached silver fangs on his two upper corner teeth. Cerastes’ hair is crimson red and his hairstyle is punker’ish, having undercut like Reiko’s MK Armageddon look, but his hair covers his right eye and face. He has a white streak in his bangs like other members of the Brotherhood of the Shadow.

Cerastes wears a black latex suit, covering his arms, hands, shoulders and neck, but leaves his torso bare. He has both his arms covered in plated armour made of black Netherrealm steel, made of several links to make it more flexible. Each armour consists of a shoulder-guard, three on his upper arm, an elbow-guard, three on his lower arm, a wrist-guard and a steel glove. On each link is a silver, fang-like, bladed spike, like Quan Chi’s shoulder-guard, which he uses to slice the opponents with. Cerastes wears tight, black leather pants and black leather boots with the same kind of plated armour down his legs with three links on his thigh, a knee-guard, three links down his lower leg, an ankle-guard and a plate covering the toes of his boot, also with silver, fang-like, bladed spikes on.

Around his neck is a black leather collar with silver spikes on and he wears a black leather belt in the same fashion, also with silver spikes on and the belt-buckle is round with a black edge and with a black Brotherhood of the Shadow symbol imprinted on it. From his two shoulder-guards is attached a silver chain in which hangs a trinket down the mid of his chest, also the Brotherhood of the Shadow symbol.

The psionic blades he can conjure come out from his closed fists, appearing like crimson energy.

Alternate costume:
Cerastes physical appearance is the same as above, but instead he wears a full body suit of black latex. He has straps of black leather down both his arms with white, tusk-like spikes on them, and he wears black, thigh-high, leather boots which also has leather straps on them with white, tusk-like spikes. Down the mid of his chest are large, metallic staples to keep the suit closed. He wears a black, leather belt with spikes on and has a black, leather collar also with spikes on, in the same fashion as his main costume, though the spikes seem larger.

His head is covered with a black, latex mask with only his eyes showing. A black, steel mask is covering his mouth, but instead of appearing like a typical MK ninja mask, it appears more like a gas-mask. It also muffles the sound of his voice, like Kabal’s mask does to his. On his back is imprinted a silver viper shaped as an S, its mouth wide open to show its fangs and it also appears to have small horns. The viper is made of several steel links, making it flexible so it does not prohibit Cerastes’ movement.

Character ending:
Cerastes had done his job well, hunting down and assassinating strong Earthrealm warriors as well as many of Shao Kahn’s minions. He learned that the souls of those he killed would be reborn in the Netherrealm under Quan Chi’s might, strengthening the army of Shinnok’s coming, so to gain Quan Chi’s favour, Cerastes went to kill Shao Kahn himself. After an intense fight, Cerastes finally beat Shao Kahn and sent his soul to the Netherrealm. Quan Chi was surprised of Cerastes’ skills and as a last test of loyalty, he was told to kill Reiko.

When Cerastes found Reiko, he got second thoughts. Reiko had acted like his tutor and helped him gain a place amongst the Brotherhood of the Shadows, so killing him felt like a betrayal. Instead of killing him, Cerastes told Reiko of what Quan Chi had told him to do, but Reiko already knew and was prepared. He offered Cerastes a place by his side as he would take over the throne of Outworld, replacing the now dead Shao Kahn. Cerastes agreed, and with him as his personal assassin and bodyguard, Reiko was able to gain the title as emperor of Outworld. Together they lead a vast army to destroy the Brotherhood of the Shadows, once and for all.
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07/26/2011 10:47 AM (UTC)
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^ I like it. A little long but it's all good
"Now we play the waiting game..."

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*taps fingers*

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"Eh, the waiting game sucks. Lets play Hungry Hungry Hippos!"
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07/27/2011 03:34 AM (UTC)
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Pro-Tip: Next year, consider an evil Russian.
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07/27/2011 03:35 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Pro-Tip: Next year, consider an evil Russian.


Dragunov?
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07/27/2011 03:38 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Dragunov?

... What're you, ten years old? C'mon...
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07/27/2011 03:39 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Dragunov?

... What're you, ten years old? C'mon...


He's an evil Russian. No need to be all offensive and bitchy.
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07/27/2011 03:42 AM (UTC)
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OMEGA RED SON. fuckwiddit
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07/27/2011 03:44 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Dragunov?

... What're you, ten years old? C'mon...

He's an evil Russian. No need to be all offensive and bitchy.

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07/27/2011 03:45 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Dragunov?

... What're you, ten years old? C'mon...

He's an evil Russian. No need to be all offensive and bitchy.



I have no idea who that is.
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07/27/2011 03:49 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Dragunov?

... What're you, ten years old? C'mon...

He's an evil Russian. No need to be all offensive and bitchy.



I have no idea who that is.

I take it you haven't seen Rocky IV?
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Jaded-Raven
07/27/2011 03:51 AM (UTC)
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No, eww, haven't seen any Rocky movies. And I never will.
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07/27/2011 03:52 AM (UTC)
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AwesomeTaco Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I have no idea who that is.

I take it you haven't seen Rocky IV?

... What are they teaching in schools these days?! Damn it!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_Russian_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
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07/27/2011 03:54 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
AwesomeTaco Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I have no idea who that is.

I take it you haven't seen Rocky IV?

... What are they teaching in schools these days?! Damn it!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_Russian_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War


Do you have a point with this?
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It would probably struggle to win the crowd vote, but I was disappointed not to see more characters getting back to basics, grounding themselves in a simple, single premise. It's a tough ask to introduce a character into an existing heirarchy with too much or too little info -- it's that balance that a lot of characters were lacking.

Without wanting to kick that particular hornet's nest, I think this is the moral people should take away from Krustacean's shortlived successes. We all know that joke characters aren't the aim of the game, but there comes a point where a choice between implausibilities will favour the knowingly and delightfully absurd over presumptuous additions to the canon, and other unnatural and serious designs.

Based on this year's contest, I think there is still a lot of margin for working within the parameters set by MK, whilst looking at what archetypes it lacks. For my tastes, I would've enjoyed seeing some more attempts to approach it from the pop oriented, comic book/martial arts influences that gave us the original broad strokes of characters who were built on. Granted, that hasn't been done to great effect in recent editions of the games, but it's where the best characters started.

Of course, I would stress that this is a bit of discussion, food for thought, and not a platinum measure of judgment. It certainly doesn't represent the opinions of the other judges, or any strict prejudice against characters.

I would add that I think creating new characters for the next contest will both keep it fresh for frequent observers, and represent the challenges and strengths of the genre and medium. Fighting games are generally a serialized format, which always benefits from the broad accumulation of interesting, vivid characters.


Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Sanguinius Wrote:
I'll definitely be entering a different character next time. Krustacean was a novelty and I feel overexposing him would be a detraction. Also, I've got a bunch of characters from (ugh) a piece of fanfiction I'm working on. Kind of Earthrealm's B-Team during the MK3 portion of the story. I refuse to believe Shao Kahn only came in attacking/invading a single city, so they're Fuujin's team.

A heckuva lot depends on execution, but that strikes me as a very good place to look to put a character. Earthrealm has really been shockingly neglected, in the games, and in the contest. Getting back to basics, painting a character with broad (human) strokes, and suturing it into the story naturally with as soft and plausible a reference as that is great!

[...]

Contemporary figures (characters whose relevance is recent, or current) is another big thing that I felt was somewhat lacking. Yes, the MK fiction affords you a lot of opportunity to deal with fantastical and longlived figures, but that tends to have been used to cheat seniority, rather than make use of any actual reason for it. Tangential to that -- characters who can answer simple questions about themselves are a big plus, too. It'd be nice to see actual, direct answers in character bios, with any additional context/subtext implied in the bio, or ending. Much like "real" characters.


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Do you have a point with this?

The fighting super-genre doesn't exist without familiar archetypes.
The KAK contest could use a few more creations that pick up on that.

Was supposed to be a single-post of passing abject silliness (for those in-the-know to see the tongue-in-cheek), but it's part of the same legitimate conversation quoted above. Sometimes the world is just a better place with an evil Russian in it.
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07/27/2011 04:09 AM (UTC)
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Thank you for clearing that up. I had not read those past comments.
I am still awaiting an apology from you though.
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07/27/2011 04:18 AM (UTC)
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Thank you for clearing that up. I had not read those past comments.
I am still awaiting an apology from you though.

Well, I meant 'conceptual conversation,' rather than the literal one that was quoted. The kind of thing everyone on a fighting game forum posting in a character creation thread should ideally have some understanding of.

You don't know who Ivan Drago is. No apology!
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07/27/2011 04:20 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Thank you for clearing that up. I had not read those past comments.
I am still awaiting an apology from you though.

Well, I meant 'conceptual conversation,' rather than the literal one that was quoted. The kind of thing everyone on a fighting game forum posting in a character creation thread should ideally have some understanding of.

You don't know who Ivan Drago is. No apology!


Honey, if I don't know who it is, it isn't important. ;)
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07/27/2011 04:24 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
It would probably struggle to win the crowd vote, but I was disappointed not to see more characters getting back to basics, grounding themselves in a simple, single premise. It's a tough ask to introduce a character into an existing heirarchy with too much or too little info -- it's that balance that a lot of characters were lacking.

Without wanting to kick that particular hornet's nest, I think this is the moral people should take away from Krustacean's shortlived successes. We all know that joke characters aren't the aim of the game, but there comes a point where a choice between implausibilities will favour the knowingly and delightfully absurd over presumptuous additions to the canon, and other unnatural and serious designs.

Based on this year's contest, I think there is still a lot of margin for working within the parameters set by MK, whilst looking at what archetypes it lacks. For my tastes, I would've enjoyed seeing some more attempts to approach it from the pop oriented, comic book/martial arts influences that gave us the original broad strokes of characters who were built on. Granted, that hasn't been done to great effect in recent editions of the games, but it's where the best characters started.

Of course, I would stress that this is a bit of discussion, food for thought, and not a platinum measure of judgment. It certainly doesn't represent the opinions of the other judges, or any strict prejudice against characters.

I would add that I think creating new characters for the next contest will both keep it fresh for frequent observers, and represent the challenges and strengths of the genre and medium. Fighting games are generally a serialized format, which always benefits from the broad accumulation of interesting, vivid characters.


Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Sanguinius Wrote:
I'll definitely be entering a different character next time. Krustacean was a novelty and I feel overexposing him would be a detraction. Also, I've got a bunch of characters from (ugh) a piece of fanfiction I'm working on. Kind of Earthrealm's B-Team during the MK3 portion of the story. I refuse to believe Shao Kahn only came in attacking/invading a single city, so they're Fuujin's team.

A heckuva lot depends on execution, but that strikes me as a very good place to look to put a character. Earthrealm has really been shockingly neglected, in the games, and in the contest. Getting back to basics, painting a character with broad (human) strokes, and suturing it into the story naturally with as soft and plausible a reference as that is great!

[...]

Contemporary figures (characters whose relevance is recent, or current) is another big thing that I felt was somewhat lacking. Yes, the MK fiction affords you a lot of opportunity to deal with fantastical and longlived figures, but that tends to have been used to cheat seniority, rather than make use of any actual reason for it. Tangential to that -- characters who can answer simple questions about themselves are a big plus, too. It'd be nice to see actual, direct answers in character bios, with any additional context/subtext implied in the bio, or ending. Much like "real" characters.


Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Do you have a point with this?

The fighting super-genre doesn't exist without familiar archetypes.
The KAK contest could use a few more creations that pick up on that.

Was supposed to be a single-post of passing abject silliness (for those in-the-know to see the tongue-in-cheek), but it's part of the same legitimate conversation quoted above. Sometimes the world is just a better place with an evil Russian in it.

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