Sub Zero spine rip. REVISION. Whoa. Cool.
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posted01/08/2004 07:40 PM (UTC)by
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10/08/2003 12:27 PM (UTC)
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axeman61
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12/26/2003 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Very nice. 4.5/5
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balistic49
12/26/2003 11:12 PM (UTC)
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A really good idea, which is what most animations have been lacking lately. Mostly people have just been trying to get the most bllod as possible. this looks clean and not overdone. Basically I like it a lot.
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12/26/2003 11:13 PM (UTC)
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I'm not really liking this. Your Rayden vs Stryker animation was way better. It's a cool idea, yes, but it's executed sloppily. The head doesn't look right. There's nothing on Jax's neck, there's supposed to be a bloody stump or something, but it just looks like his head was cut out.
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12/27/2003 12:18 AM (UTC)
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Why is it that one fake, people are like, "HOLY CRAP THAT I5 teh c00lzors!" and yet with a pro animator, they say, "You gotta put that there, I'm giving it this because it was a pixel to the left too much. If it wasn't this many millameters to the left, I wouldn't give it a 2". It annoys me.
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12/27/2003 02:22 AM (UTC)
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Well, the pros have learned a lot and feel they can give a critical analysis, even if it's just hyper-nitpicking. Either that, or these 'pros' are just trolls/overanalytical dicks.
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12/27/2003 04:31 AM (UTC)
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axeman61 Wrote:
Well, the pros have learned a lot and feel they can give a critical analysis, even if it's just hyper-nitpicking. Either that, or these 'pros' are just trolls/overanalytical dicks.


Wtf? Must I repeat myself? How do you expect the author to improve on his/her work? Serioulsy tho this is the kind of shit that has been pissing me off this days that sometimes makes me want to leave this site like VenoMark. Is people like you who is afraid to give the author feedback just because you don't want ho hurt his feelings and that's the only way the author could improve on. Just look at Zombie. ReMeir said I was being hard on him when in fact, Zombie thank me for being honest. Anyways I think the animation is decent, but it need a little bit more effects like blood.
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12/27/2003 06:21 AM (UTC)
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Marcel is right, without honest feedback, NOBODY would improve. If it wasnt for Marcels comment many months ago about how my fakes sucked, i wouldnt improve either. Even tho we used ot hate each other, I should thank him.


as for the ani

Meh, its not bad, ive seen much worse, and ive seen better. Animations are extremely difficult to do and are very time consuming, so if you have a bit of mistakes, its not a big deal
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12/27/2003 01:44 PM (UTC)
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I really like the idea but I think he should be grabbing from the left side. I just think it would look better that way. Not to mention there is no real reason for him to be jumping over Jax.

Either way it's an awsome animation. I really love the idea and it was executed very well. Good job 4/5.
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12/27/2003 04:14 PM (UTC)
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SuperMarioBro Wrote:
Why is it that one fake, people are like, "HOLY CRAP THAT I5 teh c00lzors!" and yet with a pro animator, they say, "You gotta put that there, I'm giving it this because it was a pixel to the left too much. If it wasn't this many millameters to the left, I wouldn't give it a 2". It annoys me.


I kinda agree, Animations takes a lot of time and dedication. I respect everyones opinions even if I don't agree but giving 2/5 dragons is a bit exagerated, even if the person doesn't like it. That has nothing to do on being honest and giving honest feedback imo.
It is like someone who can't draw a straight line and he is giving advice to someonelse with skills on how to do it.
Am I the only one who sees the Irony?
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12/27/2003 11:38 PM (UTC)
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MaxDam Wrote:

I kinda agree, Animations takes a lot of time and dedication. I respect everyones opinions even if I don't agree but giving 2/5 dragons is a bit exagerated, even if the person doesn't like it. That has nothing to do on being honest and giving honest feedback imo.
It is like someone who can't draw a straight line and he is giving advice to someonelse with skills on how to do it.
Am I the only one who sees the Irony?


I do see the irony. Its an ok fake animation. I give him props on his work (I know that took a while). I used to make animations (like a year ago..lmao)so I know where he's coming from but I would give him a 3/5 just because it was a good idea and he gave effort into it. But just learn to make things "flow" more, get some more sprites. gj. kthxbai.
Looks good to me.

I don't think there should be blood, because Jax is frozen solid, blood wouldn't be running.

What you might see instead is frozen bits of blood, like red pieces of ice.
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12/31/2003 10:09 AM (UTC)
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MaRcElunbeatable Wrote:
axeman61 Wrote:
Well, the pros have learned a lot and feel they can give a critical analysis, even if it's just hyper-nitpicking. Either that, or these 'pros' are just trolls/overanalytical dicks.

Wtf? Must I repeat myself? How do you expect the author to improve on his/her work? Serioulsy tho this is the kind of shit that has been pissing me off this days that sometimes makes me want to leave this site like VenoMark. Is people like you who is afraid to give the author feedback just because you don't want ho hurt his feelings and that's the only way the author could improve on. Just look at Zombie. ReMeir said I was being hard on him when in fact, Zombie thank me for being honest. Anyways I think the animation is decent, but it need a little bit more effects like blood.


I'm not afraid to give negative feedback or anything. It's just that I think this is a good animation and the one who gave it a 2/5 obviously doesn't, for reasons which ,in my opinion, didn't justify that low rating.
I'll admit that as an aspiring artist, I'm lenient because I can't really do much myself. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with giving credit where it's due. This obviously took some work, and just because I'm rating accordingly doesn't mean that I'm too afraid of hurting someones feelings or some ****.

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I'm not really liking this. Your Rayden vs Stryker animation was way better. It's a cool idea, yes, but it's executed sloppily. The head doesn't look right. There's nothing on Jax's neck, there's supposed to be a bloody stump or something, but it just looks like his head was cut out.
Rating: 2/5



Right, so, there's no blood because he's been frozen, the head doesn't look..... "right"?. I think you should explain that a little better.
And even with saying those things, I would still think it's worth more than a 2 confused.

Anyhow, here's my viewpoint:

Good animation, but granted there are a few things to be improved on.

- Subby freezing Jax. This could be better in that, when Jax is suddenly frozen he is a different position than when being frozen. I can't remember if that's how it's done in the game, but as it's a fake ani, you can change it anyway.
- The frozen particles when he's being frozen kinda don't move. Well, actually they do, but it looksl ike you have three frames for them? There's at least 11, so ya know tongue.
- I think Jax shaking left and right is a bit on the cheesy side, but it kinda works I guess. But I think there could be a better substitute, like some cracking on the right hand side of Jax for example.
- I think there is perhaps one more sprite that you could have used when Subby is removing the spine and head that would make that part seem a little less jumpy, which is the one just before he breaks into Jax's body. It would smooth the pulling out part a little bit.

Other than that, can't see much wrong with it.
I would give this a 7.5/10 or a 3.5/5 smile.
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12/31/2003 10:26 PM (UTC)
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I'm not saying that because there's no blood. I'm saying that because Sub-Zero's holding Jax's head by the spine, but he only ripped off his head....
( sighs ) Okay, I guess I was being a little harsh on the rating....
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2.78/5
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01/01/2004 11:15 PM (UTC)
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It's clear that Subby is ripping out the head with the spine, starting with the spine. He didn't reach for the top of the head, he reached for Jax's back. The overall shape of the head seems to stay constant throughout the whole animation.

But I agree on the blood thing. There should be a stump or something. That's the only reason that it's a 4.5/5 now that I think about it. But then again, if Subby froze Jax enough for the spine to be frozen, then maybe the blood wouldn't be right.

Actually, the way he did it is right.

Sub Zero ripped his spine, and the back of Jax's neck went with it, so from our angle, you wouldn't see the stump, but only a red outline on the collar that you see now.

He didn't cut his head off, he ripped it off.

If we were looking a Jax's back, then we would see a stump.

Looking at jax from the side, with Jax facing
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It's at an angle.
That's why you wouldn't see it from the front.

You know what I mean?
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01/02/2004 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Oh. Now I see what you mean......
The stump would be visible on the head that sub is holding, we would be able to see that.
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01/06/2004 02:58 PM (UTC)
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I like your GIF shirt_ninja! I was wondering if you could tell me how to get the characters out of the games to make the fakes and stuff? Do you need the game roms? Is there a special program to "extract" the characters out?
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01/06/2004 04:30 PM (UTC)
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Pretty cool. But he shouldn't hop over Jax to rip out his spine. confused
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01/08/2004 05:08 PM (UTC)
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Why not? When you actually play the game, you can jump over them during that Fatality.
That's pretty cool. I like it.


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