Yes actually, the "winner takes all this time" part was in the original MK2.

And yeah, the Shaolin temple Scorpion and Sub fought in in Mythologies is the same one Liu Kang and Kung Lao are from. You may recall, the Temple background from MKM returned as a stage in MK4, and Liu Kang's ending takes place there.

I don't think Liu and Kung were living there at the time of Mythologies, though. They were almost certainly with the White Lotus at the time.

I forgot to ask Razor,when are you going to reveal the real reason behind Sonya's hatred for Kano? I even remember you made some kind of poll to Sonya fans not so long ago. I thought,maybe something like Johnny will ask Jax in MK2 while they are rescuing her about the reason why she is so passionate to hunt down Kano, and Jax will give some kind of retelling,like flashback kind of?

Yeah, I always figured it'd be a conversation between Johnny and Jax in 2. Good guess.

you know, a good christmas gift would be us being able to read the mk2 script that you have cooked up.. just saying :)

Oh my, no. If I've given the impression it's anywhere near finished, that's a mistake and I apologize.

i was so exited though man

Sorry, guys. I deflinitely appreciate people following the project and waiting with bated breath, but the fact of it is, while I know what every character needs to be doing during the next part of the story in the theoretical sense, so I can answer questions and spoil things like I've been doing, I don't have much actually written down because I haven't quite worked out the "when", the order scenes need to happen in. And I still haven't quite figured out the tournament bracket yet.

Besides, I'm visiting the folks for the holidays this week, so I'm not even on my own computer where everything is saved.

When will do a script outline for MKII?

Well y'know, it's funny...what I've done so far since the last time I posted looks very suspiciously similar to having done nothing at all.

Work has been kicking my ass for months, it's kinda starting to light up the part of my brain where I keep all the homicide...it also leaves little time for creative endeavors. Or any endeavor not called "sleep".

It is all good bro,just don't get stressed out and drink a lot of milk

But seriously,don't blame us,blame yourself for creating this awesome Razorverse

That was an awsome read cant wait for the MKII outline, good work.

Hope you'll do the MKII script soon.

While we are at it,I know you kinda figured the bracket for the tournament,but did you think GENERALLY of all scenes that should happen in this MK2 script?

I am really curious to know who Sub-Zero spared (I have some guess,but I might be wrong,lol) and thus confusing Scorpion. And then Scorpion vowing to watch over Kuai Liang and sparing him after he defeats him,which I figure should be in tournament bracket,since Scorpion wouldn't want to fight him off of it(which is ironic since in MK9 it was other way around,they hate each other and Sub-Zero actually won and would have murdered Scorpion if not for Lin Kuei interference) I also wonder if Raiden still gonna take part in the tournament or he is just as mentor and guide figure,but not a participant.

Damn,I am still excited to read this new stuff!

I've got it loosely worked out in my head.

I've been thinking it would be easier to actually motivate myself to sit down and write for once though if I find the time to buy like some index cards, write each scene in the game on one, and then pin up on my wall or something like that to form a timeline, that way I can easily see and rearrange what order I want things to happen in.



Gonna be Reptile. Not 'cuz he fought him in MK9, I've been planning it to be Reptile for years actually (this is one of those ideas I've had since all the way back to discussions in XiahouDun's old analysis thread) 'cuz he's Shang's bodyguard and Sub's there to finish his bro's mission of killing Shang. And besides, Reptile has nothing else important to do all game long.



I'm actually not entirely sure of that yet myself. On one hand, his original MK2 bio sort of implies that he doesn't fight alongside the other heroes this time, it says he suspects the tournament is some kind of trick and travels into Outworld alone to try and figure out what Shang and Kahn are really up to. On the other hand, his ending said he really did enter the tournament, and I'm not sure how I want to play out whether or not he's a legal competitor, or gets himself or someone else disqualified, when he saves Jax from Kintaro towards the end.

Raiden right now is one of the big holes that's keeping my bracket from being finished. The others are figuring out who Kung Lao and Shang Tsung should fight before I put them in a match against each other...and figuring out how to explain why the heroes who get eliminated aren't killed, cuz it's not like Baraka or Mileena or Shang would let an opponent live and yet, Johnny Cage and Kung Lao have to lose but can't die yet, lol.

1) I absolutely think you should try that plan with cards. It will be easier for you to see and of course you won't be able to forget some aspects you already thought of before.

2) I KNEW IT! As you said,I always thought it was Reptile myself,not just because of MK9,but because out of all competitors,Kitana and Mileena don't make sense to be that victim,because I figure Kitana would be defeated by Liu Kang,to add some drama,especially knowing what they are doing behind Kahn's back. Baraka should be more associated with his match with Kung Lao or at least Jax/Johnny,IMO. And Shang Tsung should be in the finals,before Kintaro and Shao Kahn,or at least Shao Kahn,since he is much stronger than he was in MK1 and one of the most powerful warriors.

You said about Reptile being Shang's bodyguard. Is he still? I mean,MK1 is over,and Reptile is one of the competitors actually. And Shang Tsung,generally speaking,is not Grandmaster anymore,he is more like those Roman gladiator match announcers for Shao Kahn's Caesar. Or maybe that was Reptile's permanent job,to guard Shang's live? I would actually love to hear a backstory about that,maybe something like him being found by Shang and being raised as an assassin and bodyguard to him (who treats him like shit by the way all the time),and then later introduced to Shao Kahn?

And plus,Reptile,in your universe,ALREADY faced Sub-Zero,but the older one. And kicked his butt. So I see an interesting potential dialogue between two before their fight,like what if Reptile started to talk shit about Bi-Han,thinking that it is him there,since he doesn't know what happened to older bro. And that will motivate Kuai Liang to the point,that he would think Reptile has a hand in doing something terrible to Bi-Han which led to his death (since he doesn't ACTUALLY know what happened to Bi-Han). After defeating Reptile,he would consider to finish him off,but will spare him,thinking that "If I defeated this creature,then my brother certainly would have no problem with him. He is not the one who killed him,therefore I will spare him." What do you think? I actually am curious WHEN Kuai Liang meets Raiden and IF Thunder God gonna tell him what happened to his bro,since he witnessed Scorpion''s murder by his own eyes.

Another thing is actually,if Scorpion gonna meet somebody besides Sub-Zero in the tournament and fight them? I don't even know which side he will fight on? I figure,since he WILL fight Sub-Zero at one point,he must be on Outworld's side,but the problem is Scorpion doesn't give a fuck about Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung,so I am a lil bit confused. Is it probably the time Shao Kahn recognizes Scorpion's superb abilities and that's why in MK3 offers him to be one of his men?

3) About Raiden,I think,he should be just a contestant as well,but gonna be disqualified eventually for saving Jax's life from Kintaro (as from what I understood). That will actually be kind of cool and show Raiden's personality and his sacrifice of tournament place very well,as well as giving Earth heroes the trust and support they have in him for future events,unlike fucking MK9.

I don't think Shang Tsung should face Kung Lao,but thinking about it,it is very intriguing,since Kung Lao will probably lose and that will motivate him further in MKDA to train with Bo Rai Cho for his second round with sorcerer. And it will kinda add to the whole "Liu is much better than me,since he defeated Shang". And I guess after Shang's victory over Kung Lao,Liu Kang will kick sorcerer's butt again this time?

But will Kung Lao eventually face Baraka in the tournament,or it will happen outside of it? Because they obviously had something going on during Shaolin Massacre,probably Baraka knocking him down,but then motivated Kung Lao avenges his Shaolin brothers (I believe,BOTH Kung and Liu should have a hand in SOME revenge for their brothers) by defeating the Tarkatan,but spares him,since he is Shaolin and all that. But in MK3,I guess he won't be so merciful towards him.

I don't think Shang should face anyone before final rounds,as he is kinda sub-boss of the MK2.so just put him against Kung Lao right away.

For Mileena vs Johnny Cage,I guess,Johnny will lose.Well,make Raiden interfere,like zapping Mileena like in MK9 on the bridge scene,but this interruption will give Raiden first warning as a contestant. The second warning,which disqualifies him,is whole Kintaro/Jax scene.

Well,Razor,it ALL depends on the FORMAT you wanna make this tournament,because in MK1 of your universe,the whole tournament was finding the best Earth fighter -> fight vs Goro ->optional fight vs Shang Tsung (since Liu Kang accepted to fight against the Grandmaster of the tournament). In THIS one,the format is still weird to me and I don't know HOW you are gonna make it work. And as I said,I don't know which side Scorpion is on.

Well the format of MK1 was such as it was because Outworld already had a champ so good they didn't need anybody else.

Since Goro's "dead" and Earth won the last tournament though, Outworld doesn't have a clear representative, so instead, Kahn picks a whole handful of his best guys and puts them in the bracket, that's why the format of this one changes to the more expected "Earth guy fights Outworld guy, winner moves on to the next round" format.

As for your other questions...

Reptile: Yeah, I'm sort of treating it as though being Shang's bodyguard is his job-for-life. If there's any specific reason for why, it would just be that Shang likes using Raptors as slaves.

Keeping him close to Shang gives me a way to have Reptile learn how his people went extinct...I'm going to have him discover that Shang and Kahn haven't just been working them to death, he's actually been using Raptors for his Flesh Pits experiments. (This is how I'm gonna introduce Chameleon and give him an origin story in MK3. He'll be the product of all this Saurian gene splicing.)

Scorpion: I do want to give him one other fight besides Sub, I'm just not sure who the hell fits since everybody who can lose in the first round is already taken, and his second round fight is the one with Sub-Zero, which Scorpion will either forfeit, or beat Sub-Zero but spare him, and drop out of the tournament afterward either way.

Kung Lao: I'm actually saving his fight with Baraka for MK3. Liu will face Baraka in the bracket in 2 and end up sparing his life because he's still struggling with the whole revenge vs. pacifism thing, which pisses Kung Lao off all the more.

You guessed it though, I'm gonna have a Kung Lao vs. Shang fight where Shang wins for the same reasons you thought of. But yeah, that's one of the tricky situations where I have to come up with an explanation for why that fight doesn't end in a Fatality, because normally, Shang or Kahn would totally steal his soul.

Raiden: I guess I will add him to the bracket so I can do the getting himself disqualified thing, but like with Scorpion, I have to think of a character he can fight and win against in the first round. Hmm...maybe Skarlet? I really have nothing else for her except for a small scuffle with Noob since her job is to spy on the Brotherhood and make sure they're not gonna betray Kahn while they rez Sindel...and I've been toying with an idea to deepen her backstory and Raiden would be a good character to have hint at it because he's old and powerful enough to know secrets about everyone.

Sub-Zero: He's gonna learn how his bro died from Smoke, whose reason for coming to Outworld is to do some detective work while Sub's in the tournament. He'll have some interaction with Raiden, though, since Raiden tried to be a mentor to Bi-Han. As for why he spares Reptile, it's mostly going to be chalked up to the fact that Kuai Liang simply isn't comfortable living the life of an assassin, he doesn't like killing so he won't kill anybody but his target.

Well,I am just curious if it is possible for Outworlder to face Outworlder or Earthrealmer vs Earthrealmer. Or if the number of fighters winning is uneven,then maybe some guys will sit out next round till the other matches decided maybe? Like,FOR EXAMPLE,it is semifinals and Liu,Kung and Jax are there with Baraka on Outworld's side,will Jax and Kung Lao wait this round to know if they are gonna face Baraka in the next round in case he wins? Because the number of contestants on both sides are not 2-4-8-16 kind of format,so we have some confuse over next rounds.



I am impressed with your new take on Chameleon. Could be like Shang Tsung used difficult and different sorcery to create such an ultimate warrior. Maybe he ordered Reptile to collect samples of all ninjas during MK1 and MK2 somehow (maybe picking up the blood that was left everywhere after ninjas fought?) I dunno,could be awesome if implemented right.



I think you can make Sub-Zero vs Scorpion fight as outside of tournament fight.Make Scorpion lose to Raiden in first round,so after the loss Scorpion is out of competition but still present to uncover the truth about Sub-Zero. This fight will give him also some interaction with Raiden as well. Speaking of Raiden and Scorpion,I suppose the Thunder God would want to show Scorpion the fight between Sub-Zero and Reptile for him to witness the difference and probably even taking the spectre to arena where the fight will be held?



Okay,but is Kung Lao gonna face Baraka for a brief fight during Shaolin Massacre since he was there?

As for Shang vs Kung Lao,maybe involve Great Kung Lao's soul in Shang to it? Like he prevented Shang to use his magic on Kung Lao? Maybe that's kinda stupid,because Shang should be more powerful for that.



Well,I already suggested to put Scorpion vs Raiden in the first round,therefore killing two rabbits at the same time. I don't think Scorpion being on Earth's side is so important to him,he just wants to get Sub-Zero,and Raiden will make sure to take him out,before he makes any damage in the tournament to any of his team members. And besides,Scorpion's impressive display (I imagine he will have a good fight against Thinder God) in front of Shao Kahn will give this "Shao Kahn enlisted Scorpion to his army,because he was so damn good on our side that he almost beat Raiden himself".

I don't know,I think Skarlet shouldn't enter the tournament. She is that sneaky kunoichi behind scenes (I know it is Jade's role and stuff,but Jade's whole priority in MK2 is to take care of Smoke). I think you told one time about Shao Kahn having a bodyguard. Since Reptile is Shang's,then I believe Skarlet should be perfect for that! (Or maybe you Ermac taking that role in MK2?)



I think Raiden should see clearly that Kuai is not corrupted as his brother and there is still hope for him to become a good guy,so I imagine he will try even harder with the younger bro,talking about how the Lin Kuei ways are no good and how it destroyed his brother,and even KIND OF protecting him from Scorpion by showing the yellow one the fight between Kuai and Reptile. This whole Raiden-Sub-Zero bond is VERY intriguing to me,because I imagine Raiden valuing the ice warrior very much,probably even thinking about him as the second best warrior after Liu Kang (but maybe Kung Lao can argue with that).

Speaking of Smoke,is he gonna interact with Thunder God in MK2 as he did in MK9? I just imagine Raiden always knew about Smoke,but didn't have the chance to save him from Lin Kuei corruption,as he was too focused on Kuai Liang. Or maybe Smoke didn't interact with any Earth warriors(except Sub-Zero of course) or even Raiden himself,because he was too busy with investigating?

But anyways,how Smoke is gonna learn that it was Scorpion who killed Bi-Han? I mean,burnt corpse to crisp that he will find in Goro's Lair is still not indicative that it was spectre. And I believe he will fight Jade twice,right? One time in Goro's Lair,where he is investigating,and one time in Living Forest?

I thought about having Mileena and Baraka end up facing each other in the second round. I thought that would be fun because to the two of them, fighting would be like foreplay and it would be a chance to hint at this screwed up romantic relationship they've got going on behind the scenes...but I'm not sure I have space in the bracket for it.



Well Scorpion would be spying on Sub and waiting for his moment to face him from the moment he gets there, so he'd see the match anyway. I don't think Raiden and Scorpion will have any big interactions during MK2, but Raiden and Kuai definitely will.



Oh yeah, definitely. I didn't forget about that.



When we were talking a while back about Kahn having a bodyguard and it not being Kintaro, I was hinting at my plan for Chameleon. That'll be his role in MK3, that's what Shang is creating him for.

The reason I don't mind putting Skarlet in the bracket instead of having her be hidden is that she's kind of in a similar role as Nimbus was in MK1. That and if she didn't have at least one real fight, she'd barely appear at all since her job is to keep an eye on the Brotherhood but Quan's not even in MK2 and Noob's role is so small he's barely in it too...



I don't think Smoke will have much interaction with the other good guys besides Subbie and those two fights with Jade. I'm sure Raiden would want to speak to him if they met (you'd think a god would be able to sense it when someone is secretly a demon), they'll probably just not get the chance with Smoke busy doing his mission and Raiden busy with the tournament or trying to find out what Kahn's really up to.

Very good points so far on every aspect.But how is that Skarlet gonna spy on Noob Saibot,and therefore Noob will be a suspicious character to Shao Kahn,and then he serves Shao in MK3(although completing mostly Shinnok's missions)? I mean,isn't it dumb to hire a guy,who you had suspicions about,to attack the Earth? As far as I remember,Noob was only spying on events in MK2,and only then joined Shao Kahn,but ultimately betraying him aiding Earth warriors.

I don't even understand how Shao Kahn or Shang Tsung know about Brotherhood AT ALL. Aren't they secret cult that worships Shinnok and making preparations for his return? I dunno,I think I am looking too much into it,since Shao Kahn probably has his own agency so to speak,that counter spies on spies I guess.

In the backstory of Mythologies, it was established that years ago, Shang Tsung and Quan Chi struck a deal:

Tsung would tell Quan Chi where the map to Shinnok's amulet is hidden (which he learned when he stole Great Kung Lao's soul because the Shaolin are the ones who guard the map), and in exchange, Quan and Shinnok would help Shang taint Sindel's soul with evil and resurrect her, since neither Shang nor Kahn actually know how to bring back the dead, and plus, the Netherealm is the best place to go to taint a soul.

So in MK2 and 3, I'm going to have the reason that Noob Saibot is on Kahn's side be that he's a liason between Outworld and Quan Chi, sort of relaying messages back and forth and making sure Sindel's resurrection goes properly.

And since Kahn doesn't fully trust Quan Chi and thinks the Netherealm is plotting to screw him over somehow, he sends Skarlet to keep an eye on Noob and make sure he and Quan aren't up to something.

You know what I don't understand from this story? How is it that Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn KNEW that they are giving a valuable information to Quan Chi about maybe the MOST POWERFUL object in the realms and,therefore,giving Shinnok an opportunity to leave the Netherrealm? Didn't they think that Shinnok,once free,can come to claim Outworld as well,now that he has amulet,nobody would be able to stop him? It just doesn't make sense for Shang to strike this deal SO EASILY,not knowing the consequences.

And I ALWAYS imagined that relationship between Shang and Quan being very straight business like,as neither trusts another,even during MKDA. I KNOW that they needed this backup plan with Sindel,but if it meant that Shinnok will rise and you are screwed,then I don't think Shang should have done it.

Oh,but maybe I forget,that after Earth's invasion,Shao Kahn wanted to conquer Netherrealm right away too,so maybe Shao Kahn thought to merge Netherrealm which will prevent Shinnok from doing anything? I actually think,that after this "attempted" invasion,after which Scorpion escapes,Quan Chi and Shinnok decided to stop playing games with Outworld guys and just gave MIleena and Noob Saibot the missions in order to aid Earthrealmers.

Sorry Razor,it might be offtopic,since this thread is about MK1 Script.

Hope Sindel becomes good when they free her. I didn't like the idea of Kitana & the rest killed by Sindel and end up in the Netherealm.

She is not gonna be evil. It is retelling of the original timeline,where she is turned against Shao Kahn and then rules Edenia with Kitana at her side.

Shao Kahn's end goal is that absorbing Earthrealm would make him more powerful than the Elder Gods.

So I think he doesn't feel very threatened by Shinnok. Probably thinks "Meh, I can take 'im."

I mean, trying to steal souls from Hell before the merger with Earth was even done? That certainly shows he's got some balls.

That was incredible. Fantastic job Razor. 5/5