Whats happened to this place?
Whats happened to this place?
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posted10/29/2005 09:37 PM (UTC)by
Two years ago, before I was forced to go into hiatus by lack of daily internet access, this place was bustling with young, potential talent. There were several who stood out from the rest (MKRocket, Sub-Zedox, blacksaibot, and myself), who all had unique styles (up until the point where I spilled some tutorial-related information to MKRocket), but now this forum's been riddled with subpar animating "skills", for lack of a better term, and no-talent copy and paste jobs. Sure, there is the random placement of so-called "eye candy," that catches my eye, but on the very odd occasion does that happen anymore.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant.
Oh, and the childish stick animations and stills aren't helping to further anyone's interest, either. The same could also be said about those oh-so-hilarious (sarcasm, for those who can't interpret such an obvious overtone) sprite comics. Keep it up, folks. The obliteration of this forum's once-proud repute is nearing completion. Congratulations!
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Too many n00bs took over. Thats what happened.
I'll tell you what happened.
Stupid noobs have come with their crappy comics, animations, fakes or pics that suck!
And whenever you tell them how much it sucks, their response is "Fuck u u dont no wat good pic mean" or " SCREW YOU IT IS GOOD YOU RETARD!!!!".
I'm not saying that i make good fakes or such stuff, but at least i dont turn into a fucking bitch about it.
And well, you might consider me a noob too, i dont know... and if you want me to shut up, i'll just do that.
Anyway... thats all.
Stupid noobs have come with their crappy comics, animations, fakes or pics that suck!
And whenever you tell them how much it sucks, their response is "Fuck u u dont no wat good pic mean" or " SCREW YOU IT IS GOOD YOU RETARD!!!!".
I'm not saying that i make good fakes or such stuff, but at least i dont turn into a fucking bitch about it.
And well, you might consider me a noob too, i dont know... and if you want me to shut up, i'll just do that.
Anyway... thats all.
no no , you cant control which pictures user can post and which cannot post , i mean you cant make filter which delete terrible fakes and animations , but you can ask to close thread where is this shitty anim or fake.Some kids dont have so big expectations from themselves and they post their every fake which was done in 15 minutes just because they thik they are fakemakers or animators.Just ignore shitty fakes and animations , you can recognize them , its easy.
What about idea of "remix" shitty fake and make from it some ery good fake ? Just to show how it should be done right , i think about it many times but i dont make fakes actually , sometimes i really want to do it , make remake of shitty fake to show how it should be done.
What about idea of "remix" shitty fake and make from it some ery good fake ? Just to show how it should be done right , i think about it many times but i dont make fakes actually , sometimes i really want to do it , make remake of shitty fake to show how it should be done.


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VenoMark Wrote:
Two years ago, before I was forced to go into hiatus by lack of daily internet access, this place was bustling with young, potential talent. There were several who stood out from the rest (MKRocket, Sub-Zedox, blacksaibot, and myself), who all had unique styles (up until the point where I spilled some tutorial-related information to MKRocket), but now this forum's been riddled with subpar animating "skills", for lack of a better term, and no-talent copy and paste jobs. Sure, there is the random placement of so-called "eye candy," that catches my eye, but on the very odd occasion does that happen anymore.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant
Two years ago, before I was forced to go into hiatus by lack of daily internet access, this place was bustling with young, potential talent. There were several who stood out from the rest (MKRocket, Sub-Zedox, blacksaibot, and myself), who all had unique styles (up until the point where I spilled some tutorial-related information to MKRocket), but now this forum's been riddled with subpar animating "skills", for lack of a better term, and no-talent copy and paste jobs. Sure, there is the random placement of so-called "eye candy," that catches my eye, but on the very odd occasion does that happen anymore.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant
Get a life...


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Bad_Boy Wrote:
I'll tell you what happened.
Stupid noobs have come with their crappy comics, animations, fakes or pics that suck!
And whenever you tell them how much it sucks, their response is "Fuck u u dont no wat good pic mean" or " SCREW YOU IT IS GOOD YOU RETARD!!!!".
I'm not saying that i make good fakes or such stuff, but at least i dont turn into a fucking bitch about it.
And well, you might consider me a noob too, i dont know... and if you want me to shut up, i'll just do that.
Anyway... thats all.
I'll tell you what happened.
Stupid noobs have come with their crappy comics, animations, fakes or pics that suck!
And whenever you tell them how much it sucks, their response is "Fuck u u dont no wat good pic mean" or " SCREW YOU IT IS GOOD YOU RETARD!!!!".
I'm not saying that i make good fakes or such stuff, but at least i dont turn into a fucking bitch about it.
And well, you might consider me a noob too, i dont know... and if you want me to shut up, i'll just do that.
Anyway... thats all.
no, keep goin. Everything you say is the cold hard truth. and baically if you have mor ethan 300 visits, you wouldn't be considered a n00b, or if you know what that means, then ur not a n00b
endofdays Wrote:
Get a life...
You need one.VenoMark Wrote:
Two years ago, before I was forced to go into hiatus by lack of daily internet access, this place was bustling with young, potential talent. There were several who stood out from the rest (MKRocket, Sub-Zedox, blacksaibot, and myself), who all had unique styles (up until the point where I spilled some tutorial-related information to MKRocket), but now this forum's been riddled with subpar animating "skills", for lack of a better term, and no-talent copy and paste jobs. Sure, there is the random placement of so-called "eye candy," that catches my eye, but on the very odd occasion does that happen anymore.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant
Two years ago, before I was forced to go into hiatus by lack of daily internet access, this place was bustling with young, potential talent. There were several who stood out from the rest (MKRocket, Sub-Zedox, blacksaibot, and myself), who all had unique styles (up until the point where I spilled some tutorial-related information to MKRocket), but now this forum's been riddled with subpar animating "skills", for lack of a better term, and no-talent copy and paste jobs. Sure, there is the random placement of so-called "eye candy," that catches my eye, but on the very odd occasion does that happen anymore.
The solution in most of your virgin eyes would be to host a fake picture competition, but that would only mean the worst entering, one or two of the best qualifying, and the mediocre to step in and show off their lack of potential. What we need to do is get the abovementioned veterans to start scouting some of the best potential talent, hooking them up with some sort of mild tutorial, and possibly bringing this place back to the fore. I doubt that this'll even work, but the question on my mind has been listed in the topic of this thread--What in Hell's name has happened to this place?
End rant
Get a life...
Hmmm... I guess I'm a n00b. Oh, and about you veterans mentioned in the first post (I think that I might be confused or something); from the way you guys talk, I had thought that you were wistful bitchy old ladies. Huh...That's really strange. Well, thanks for informing me of your superior status. I'll keep that in mind.
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endofdays Wrote:
Im a dumbfuck..
Im a dumbfuck..
Yes you are


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RUFIX Wrote:
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
You're pretty God damn retarded, aren't you?
Stop getting fucked up your nose and maybe your brain would function better. His mileena edit was unfished work, and nothing about it was done in an amature fashion. You idiot.
And as far as I am concerned, everyone needs to stop telling each other they need a life. You all damn well know neither of you have one yourselves.
That goes for me too. I'm a fat Iraqi immigrant with no friends, and I masturbate to a porn model I call my girlfriend. Blah blah blah, I already said it all, so you can shut up about my "life."
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RUFIX Wrote:
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
It was a progressional image idiot. He wasnt done with it.
What about this: (this is just a suggestion)
Just host a competition like u said, except before someone enters they have to submit a previous fake to show what "talent" they have. That way yu could filter out the sucky ones first, while giving encouragement to the good fake makers and alllowing them to go thrugh to the next level where they come up with a new original fake. I think that might draw some of the 'veterans' back because they know they would be competing with the best.
Just host a competition like u said, except before someone enters they have to submit a previous fake to show what "talent" they have. That way yu could filter out the sucky ones first, while giving encouragement to the good fake makers and alllowing them to go thrugh to the next level where they come up with a new original fake. I think that might draw some of the 'veterans' back because they know they would be competing with the best.
blacksaibot Wrote:
You're pretty God damn retarded, aren't you?
Stop getting fucked up your nose and maybe your brain would function better. His mileena edit was unfished work, and nothing about it was done in an amature fashion. You idiot.
And as far as I am concerned, everyone needs to stop telling each other they need a life. You all damn well know neither of you have one yourselves.
That goes for me too. I'm a fat Iraqi immigrant with no friends, and I masturbate to a porn model I call my girlfriend. Blah blah blah, I already said it all, so you can shut up about my "life."
RUFIX Wrote:
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
You're pretty God damn retarded, aren't you?
Stop getting fucked up your nose and maybe your brain would function better. His mileena edit was unfished work, and nothing about it was done in an amature fashion. You idiot.
And as far as I am concerned, everyone needs to stop telling each other they need a life. You all damn well know neither of you have one yourselves.
That goes for me too. I'm a fat Iraqi immigrant with no friends, and I masturbate to a porn model I call my girlfriend. Blah blah blah, I already said it all, so you can shut up about my "life."


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RUFIX Wrote:

blacksaibot Wrote:
You're pretty God damn retarded, aren't you?
Stop getting fucked up your nose and maybe your brain would function better. His mileena edit was unfished work, and nothing about it was done in an amature fashion. You idiot.
And as far as I am concerned, everyone needs to stop telling each other they need a life. You all damn well know neither of you have one yourselves.
That goes for me too. I'm a fat Iraqi immigrant with no friends, and I masturbate to a porn model I call my girlfriend. Blah blah blah, I already said it all, so you can shut up about my "life."
RUFIX Wrote:
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
You're pretty God damn retarded, aren't you?
Stop getting fucked up your nose and maybe your brain would function better. His mileena edit was unfished work, and nothing about it was done in an amature fashion. You idiot.
And as far as I am concerned, everyone needs to stop telling each other they need a life. You all damn well know neither of you have one yourselves.
That goes for me too. I'm a fat Iraqi immigrant with no friends, and I masturbate to a porn model I call my girlfriend. Blah blah blah, I already said it all, so you can shut up about my "life."
got nuthin to say eh?


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It's true though, anyone carrying on like this about pictures on a game website obviously need to do something else with their time..
endofdays Wrote:
Get a life...
Get a life...
Awwww, did I hurt someone's feelings? Here, let me get you your pacifier. Don't worry, I won't push your head too far down on it this time.
Anyway, in no way did I mean to offend--wait a second, yes I did. I meant for this thread to verbally bitch-slap some people straight. I'm sick of seeing this forum littered with bags of shit, and the praise they receive. If you like seeing trash so much, check out the "actresses" you view each night and look to for self-mutilating comfort. Keep 'em coming, ladies. You have no idea how much enjoyment I get out of this. It's almost unnatural.
By the way, justycist, you're probably the only new guy whose talent I somehow admire. You improve when receving criticism, and even though I failed to reply to your Jade fatality thread, I do see some hint of promise in you. Keep up the good work, but for the love of whatever God to which you look up, don't establish a feud with me. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into; and it ain't no infantile "yo mama" bashing, either.
RUFIX Wrote:
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
Anyone remember his shitty ass Mileena edit? What's HE bitching about?
And this is coming from a guy who can't stray away from making half-naked men in Mr. Universe poses. I STRONG. I BEAT YOU UP. You're humping the wrong tree there, fella.

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I have noticed the quality lower...
I just look for artists that I know can do good stuff like Jax007 for example.
I see his name and go straight to the thread, most of the others I just skip.
I like Rufix's stuff too.
I just look for artists that I know can do good stuff like Jax007 for example.
I see his name and go straight to the thread, most of the others I just skip.
I like Rufix's stuff too.

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Wow. It's been so long since I posted here, I actually had to go look up some year-old threads just to remember my user name. Anyway, I think that once we start ramping up to the next MK fighting game next year, the good artists will come back. I guess Shaolin Monks wasn't enough to inspire most of the artists. Not enough new stuff in the game, I guess.
I don't think an impending NEW MK release will make that much difference. We will just get more 10yr-old looking crap based on it too.
I personally have switched from 2d art to 3d art completetly. I have done so many 2D MK stages into full 3D its insane, but at this point I don't feel the need to post shots of them all over this board, as 3D environments are best experienced interactively, not viewed from a single meaningless screenshot. (I am nearing the completion of all the MK1 stages and have done some MK2 stages, the MK3 Graveyard and the MKD Dark Prison). Once they are all done I will be making video fly throughs of them, and THOSE I will post.
Back on topic- I come to this forum daily in search of good MK art. Nowadays It doesn't come along very often, but I have enough faith in the forum's prospective and past posters to keep coming back. I think alot of the stronger artists have run out of ideas and/or inspiration or motivation (I am one of them). Never mind the rating system here is useless. I have seen 4 & 5 ratings for things that seem unfinished and/or, IMO, shouldn't have even been posted.
Kind of discourages high quality artists after spending several hours/days on a piece, but then it garners the same ratings as some sub-par 30minute dibble-dabble.
I think that there definitely needs to be more constructive mentoring going on around here. I personally TRY to give helpfull suggestions, but unfortunately sometimes my frustration comes out along with it.
Some people just won't listen or don't understand. Others I question, based on the unbalance of their 'supposed' work, whether they actually made it all. You can't have a really cool looking guy on one side with great effects, then the guy on the other side look like 1minute crap. That tells me the good part was PROBABLY something someone else either partially did, or that part was completetely stolen.
I also wish we could separate fakes and animations and stories/fiction from REAL original MK art. I want to see REAL ORIGINAL MK art. What do I mean by that? Work like JAX007 and The Suit. The work is OBVIOUSLY of exisiting MK content, and its ALL original, as in- they made it from scratch!. I don't place as much weight on fakes/anims as they are just copy and paste jobbbies (although those of you who know how to make a fake into a work of art do deserve credit) And IF I SEE ONE MORE FAKE done with that GARBAGE MK1 THE PIT screenshot with the crappy mk dragon overlayed over the moon I AM GOING TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT!
MK fan fiction and stories,well, I just don't get the point of making up story lines or fiction if there is no intent to a visual re-creation. For example- "MK Story" by Yanden has the intent of becoming a massive game which I will be helping with content creation for. I understand text works are considered artistic expression, but I think we all know the original intent of the FAN ART forum was PICTURES, as the older version of the site and forum seemed to focus on. I think fan fiction and stories belong in a different forum all together. It would help those interested in writing and reading get what they are looking for easier, and make finding visual art around here a little easier. I hate reading a topic of a thread expecting a picture and end up finding a bunch of text. LAME meter goes off!
Anyway, I'm sure many think all forms of MK art should be lumped and cluttered together under one forum, but I think we need to examine the prospect a more focussed separation of creative works pertaining to MK.
And that brings me to another topic. ALL WORKS POSTED HERE SHOULD BE OBVIOUSLY MK RELATED. It hasn't happened as much lately, but it was getting really old. General or other-topic "artists" posting obviously not MK related works and making poor attempts at brandng them as such. I say if something isn't OBVIOUSLY MK is should be DELETED from the board with haste!.
If I want to see a medieval scene and a dwarf with a staff I will go to medieval art message board. MK is about its fighters, its locations, its sound, and the MIDWAY created story lines that bind them (MKSM excluded- OMG-bleh on its story line adaptations).
I personally dont think MADE UP MK fighters belong on here at all either. As far as I am concerned they cannot be proved as being MK related unless they borrow visualizations from other exiting fighters, and thats just as bad. Oh- theres another topic. Really crappy hacks of pre-existing art and /or mk backgrounds and sprites. You've all seen it so I won't go on about it.
I could probably rant all day long but this post is probably unmanagebly long all ready, so I'll cut it short.
ps- If anyone wants to see some of my MK background based 3D stages/maps you can check out sites like these:
http://www.mortalkombataustralia.com/News.php
http://www.peterissa.com/mkut-uk.html
http://www.mortalkombataustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3090&sid;=d240e60f403783b4cee83b542f5f5116
Good day
I personally have switched from 2d art to 3d art completetly. I have done so many 2D MK stages into full 3D its insane, but at this point I don't feel the need to post shots of them all over this board, as 3D environments are best experienced interactively, not viewed from a single meaningless screenshot. (I am nearing the completion of all the MK1 stages and have done some MK2 stages, the MK3 Graveyard and the MKD Dark Prison). Once they are all done I will be making video fly throughs of them, and THOSE I will post.
Back on topic- I come to this forum daily in search of good MK art. Nowadays It doesn't come along very often, but I have enough faith in the forum's prospective and past posters to keep coming back. I think alot of the stronger artists have run out of ideas and/or inspiration or motivation (I am one of them). Never mind the rating system here is useless. I have seen 4 & 5 ratings for things that seem unfinished and/or, IMO, shouldn't have even been posted.
Kind of discourages high quality artists after spending several hours/days on a piece, but then it garners the same ratings as some sub-par 30minute dibble-dabble.
I think that there definitely needs to be more constructive mentoring going on around here. I personally TRY to give helpfull suggestions, but unfortunately sometimes my frustration comes out along with it.
Some people just won't listen or don't understand. Others I question, based on the unbalance of their 'supposed' work, whether they actually made it all. You can't have a really cool looking guy on one side with great effects, then the guy on the other side look like 1minute crap. That tells me the good part was PROBABLY something someone else either partially did, or that part was completetely stolen.
I also wish we could separate fakes and animations and stories/fiction from REAL original MK art. I want to see REAL ORIGINAL MK art. What do I mean by that? Work like JAX007 and The Suit. The work is OBVIOUSLY of exisiting MK content, and its ALL original, as in- they made it from scratch!. I don't place as much weight on fakes/anims as they are just copy and paste jobbbies (although those of you who know how to make a fake into a work of art do deserve credit) And IF I SEE ONE MORE FAKE done with that GARBAGE MK1 THE PIT screenshot with the crappy mk dragon overlayed over the moon I AM GOING TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT!
MK fan fiction and stories,well, I just don't get the point of making up story lines or fiction if there is no intent to a visual re-creation. For example- "MK Story" by Yanden has the intent of becoming a massive game which I will be helping with content creation for. I understand text works are considered artistic expression, but I think we all know the original intent of the FAN ART forum was PICTURES, as the older version of the site and forum seemed to focus on. I think fan fiction and stories belong in a different forum all together. It would help those interested in writing and reading get what they are looking for easier, and make finding visual art around here a little easier. I hate reading a topic of a thread expecting a picture and end up finding a bunch of text. LAME meter goes off!
Anyway, I'm sure many think all forms of MK art should be lumped and cluttered together under one forum, but I think we need to examine the prospect a more focussed separation of creative works pertaining to MK.
And that brings me to another topic. ALL WORKS POSTED HERE SHOULD BE OBVIOUSLY MK RELATED. It hasn't happened as much lately, but it was getting really old. General or other-topic "artists" posting obviously not MK related works and making poor attempts at brandng them as such. I say if something isn't OBVIOUSLY MK is should be DELETED from the board with haste!.
If I want to see a medieval scene and a dwarf with a staff I will go to medieval art message board. MK is about its fighters, its locations, its sound, and the MIDWAY created story lines that bind them (MKSM excluded- OMG-bleh on its story line adaptations).
I personally dont think MADE UP MK fighters belong on here at all either. As far as I am concerned they cannot be proved as being MK related unless they borrow visualizations from other exiting fighters, and thats just as bad. Oh- theres another topic. Really crappy hacks of pre-existing art and /or mk backgrounds and sprites. You've all seen it so I won't go on about it.
I could probably rant all day long but this post is probably unmanagebly long all ready, so I'll cut it short.
ps- If anyone wants to see some of my MK background based 3D stages/maps you can check out sites like these:
http://www.mortalkombataustralia.com/News.php
http://www.peterissa.com/mkut-uk.html
http://www.mortalkombataustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3090&sid;=d240e60f403783b4cee83b542f5f5116
Good day

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I find it boring to just regurgitate what the MK team has created.
I like posting and looking at fan made concept art instead.
Whether it be existing characters or made up ones.
If I was forced to just do what already exists, I don't think Id be posting much because I don't care to be copying their art.
This is my stuff
I like posting and looking at fan made concept art instead.
Whether it be existing characters or made up ones.
If I was forced to just do what already exists, I don't think Id be posting much because I don't care to be copying their art.
This is my stuff
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