Whats old is new again -fake-
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posted09/12/2006 03:24 PM (UTC)by
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UltimateRyu
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Ninja_Mime
09/10/2006 07:14 PM (UTC)
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Cool concept, and nice looking arena, but you still aren't editing your own sprites.

2.5/5.
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Cleric_of_Chaos
09/10/2006 07:38 PM (UTC)
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The BG is awesome, but you really gotta stop the sprite thing. You have talent, dont waste it.
UltimateRyu Wrote:


lol, we use the same wins/timer.

The wooden pillars are too small, and there should only be 1 set of grinders. The other DTs are an acid pit, lava pit, and a spike pit.



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Nemesis316
09/10/2006 09:08 PM (UTC)
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Honestly dude, you need to understand that 3d sprites DO NOT MIX with 2d backgrounds. Hell, even Kahn looks bad when looking at Kintaro. Unless you accept the fact that scaling 3D sprites and using effects do not make good fakes, you will always be an amateur.
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Hikari715
09/10/2006 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Cool concept, and nice looking arena, but you still aren't editing your own sprites.

2.5/5.

Ditto.
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UltimateRyu
09/10/2006 09:46 PM (UTC)
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I'll keep using them as long as they continue to look good. They dont even look 3D - there's no teared seams or pointed polygons. I have yet to see an edited sprite that looks as good as an MKDA/MKD/MKA screen rip.
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Ninja_Mime
09/10/2006 09:55 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
I'll keep using them as long as they continue to look good. They dont even look 3D - there's no teared seams or pointed polygons. I have yet to see an edited sprite that looks as good as an MKDA/MKD/MKA screen rip.


That's not the point. The point is that you're being lazy, and that 3D "sprites" don't mix with 2D backrounds.

If you're really that lazy, maybe try making 3D background edits, and making fakes out of those. But stop with the 2D/3D crap.

P.S. They do look 3D.
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the_shirt_ninja
09/10/2006 10:24 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
I have yet to see an edited sprite that looks as good as an MKDA/MKD/MKA screen rip.


Come on. Of course edited sprites don't look as good as screen rips from the actual games. That's the whole point. People edit sprites to TRY and make 'em as good as possible; it's a challenge to them, not a matter of "what looks best".
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UltimateRyu
09/10/2006 10:34 PM (UTC)
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Ideas/concepts are more important imo. Tossing around "Lazy" is just an excuse to rip on something.
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satinsoven
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09/10/2006 10:45 PM (UTC)
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you should have just put this in the 3d arena render, but just quit doing this with the sprites. i shouldn't even call them sprites. at least you're other fakes look good with 3d guys? but this doesn't cause everything's all crowded and eye-soring.
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themkwarrior
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I made this! Yay!

Guess who's back!

09/10/2006 11:41 PM (UTC)
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You guys dont like it because you think you can always do better.
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Ninja_Mime
09/11/2006 01:18 PM (UTC)
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themkwarrior Wrote:
You guys dont like it because you think you can always do better.


Yes, but unlike you, we can do it better.
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deadly_dragon
09/11/2006 02:02 PM (UTC)
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What sucks is still sucks.
3D sprites do mix with 2D, you just need to edit the 3D sprites to make them look like sprites from the old games.

Lower the # of colors that make them up

Sharpen the outer edges

Fix the color saturation

etc...
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Sub-Zedox
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09/11/2006 07:48 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
Ideas/concepts are more important imo. Tossing around "Lazy" is just an excuse to rip on something.


Ideas and concepts are good...when in pre-production of a product. When executing, they need to be put into reality and done WELL if you want the product to come across as a good product.

Lazy is used when somebody doesn't put the effort into their idea to make it good in reality. How long did it take you to make that fake (or should I say copy and paste job)? Not long I presume (if it did then you are really slow) and it shows that it didn't.
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JediTommy8
09/11/2006 09:38 PM (UTC)
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You really need to stop mixing 2-D things and 3-D things,they dont mix together at all.

It looks really bad,especially when you see the 2-D Kahn behind the 3-D Kintaro.

2/5
Shao Kahn is a real 3D person that had a Photo taken.

The same thing with Kintaro and Ermac. It's a 3D model with a photo taken.

It's the same thing.
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satinsoven
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09/11/2006 09:57 PM (UTC)
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not really shao kahn is a live actor that got a snapshot taken and devamped, or digitized to look better. kintaro and ermac are 3d models made with motion capture that are made with pplygons and more realistic graphics, where'eas kahn is a digitized, 2d sprite.
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themkwarrior
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I made this! Yay!

Guess who's back!

09/11/2006 10:12 PM (UTC)
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Hey Ninja mime, lets see you do better,Or do you just like to brag?
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Zentile
09/11/2006 10:17 PM (UTC)
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I love it, and your 3D stuff on 2D backgrounds always looks amazing to me. They dont look polygonized or anything at all. I've seen people try to rip 3D stuff into fakes and it always looks like total shit. Your fakes rock and everybody who says otherwise is either:

a) Jealous

or

2) An avatar for Lucifer.

Keep up the good work, brother.
satinsoven Wrote:
not really shao kahn is a live actor that got a snapshot taken and devamped, or digitized to look better. kintaro and ermac are 3d models made with motion capture that are made with pplygons and more realistic graphics, where'eas kahn is a digitized, 2d sprite.


What you said there, doesn't make any sense.

I know what I'm talking about, I'm a 3D artist.

Haven't you ever seen movies that have 3D models mixed with real actors?

Hulk

Blade

The matrix

super man

under world

Final Fantasy spirits within ( This one is all 3D )

etc.....


You can make it so you can't tell which is which. You just have to make the 3D art look photo realistic. and match the environment.
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UltimateRyu
09/11/2006 10:30 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
I love it, and your 3D stuff on 2D backgrounds always looks amazing to me. They dont look polygonized or anything at all. I've seen people try to rip 3D stuff into fakes and it always looks like total shit. Your fakes rock and everybody who says otherwise is either:

a) Jealous

or

2) An avatar for Lucifer.

Keep up the good work, brother.


Thanks bro.

I will continue to make them as long as I keep getting inspiration. I'll take the few constructive criticisms that I received from such people as Bleed and KillKano to make them even better.
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09/11/2006 11:22 PM (UTC)
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I think there is too much going on. You should keep it alittle more simple and easy on the eyes.
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Ninja_Mime
09/11/2006 11:36 PM (UTC)
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themkwarrior Wrote:
Hey Ninja mime, lets see you do better,Or do you just like to brag?


I just like to brag. That's all. You win. wink
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