How'd Conquest End? *Spoilers*
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posted07/17/2004 02:55 AM (UTC)by
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Jerrod
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11/04/2003 01:05 AM (UTC)
I never saw the last episode. How'd the series end?
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Zentile
07/07/2004 10:40 PM (UTC)
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Through a giant hidden portal on Earth, Shao Kahn managed to send his shadow priests to eliminate his enemies and traitors. The shadow priests murdered Kitana, Quan Chi, Siann, Shang Tsung, Vorpax, Kiri and Reptile, while Kahn was drawing Rayden into an area that slowly transported the two enemies into Outworld. Kung Lao, Siro and Taja tried to reach Rayden, but the shadow priests killed them aswell. Rayden and Kahn fight, and when Rayden seems to be the victor, and about to blow Kahn back into Outworld, he realizes his powers are gone, as now they have both been completely transported into Kahn's world.
Shao Kahn takes over the Earth, the end.
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07/07/2004 10:54 PM (UTC)
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wierd ending cuz great warriors can't beat kung lao , sira bla bla bla but some ordinary priest just come kill all great warriors in a snap and thats it ?
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07/08/2004 03:33 AM (UTC)
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And if you seen the whole season before the last episode you would know why he did all that Mass killings. Kahn was getting frustrated that new enemies were coming his way and it took him from his main focus:The Conquest of Earth. Plus too many traitors were popping from left to right. All this drove Shao Kahn towards insanity, the pressure too much for him. So he decided to strike out at everyone once and for all. And the last episod eproved what a bad@ss Kahn really was. Those who cross him pay an ultimate price. Kahn is arguably the most powerful, most evil, and most dangerous Villain in the Television series
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07/08/2004 04:04 AM (UTC)
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So basically they decided to say 'screw the whole "kung Lao killed by Goro in mortal kombat" major part of the whole MK story line' for the show- nice one- not :)
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Frikandel
07/08/2004 04:17 AM (UTC)
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No, if the series had continued, the elder gods would have rectified Shao Kahns actions and the story could continue as it was suppost to be
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07/08/2004 05:39 AM (UTC)
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I thought it was weird when Kitana AND Rayden died. It's sad they had to end it right there. The story was developing well...
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07/08/2004 07:26 AM (UTC)
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That sounds awesome the way it ended, I'm sick of things ending happily ever after, I'm glad KAhn got his way and killed everyone, especially all the good guys.
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07/08/2004 10:41 AM (UTC)
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MilkBeard Wrote:
wierd ending cuz great warriors can't beat kung lao , sira bla bla bla but some ordinary priest just come kill all great warriors in a snap and thats it ?


Some ordinary priest? They were shadow priests. I remember Kitana slicing one in half with her steel fans but he simply came back to life by creating new legs, I think. They were unbeatable, and at the end, Siro, Kung Lao and Taja were surrounded by dozens of them.
Also, they had some heavy sorcery and magic on their side. At one point, Shang Tsung tried to steal one of their souls and the priest simply casted a small spell that inverted the situation, and when Quan Chi tried to teleport, the priests freezed his powers and he got stuck on a rock.
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07/08/2004 03:10 PM (UTC)
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Thanks guys. The thread could be closed now.
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07/08/2004 06:33 PM (UTC)
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...I was under the impression that the final episode was all a very bad hallucination by Raiden, showing the worst-case scenario for Earth. I mean, I can't really see the Shadow Priests going after Shang Tsung, since he's one of them, and would have a higher ranking over them. Despite their power, the Shadow Priests are still 'mortal', and are still bound by codes of honor and such.

Anyway, I got the distinct feeling that the ending was simply a 'what if?', showing what would happen if the original Kung Lao and his gang failed in their destiny. I know there was a few clues sprinkled about the episode that hinted that it didn't actually happen. If anyone can prove me wrong on this, go ahead, but I distinctly remember that being the case.
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07/08/2004 06:43 PM (UTC)
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Well I have the episode on DVD and have seen it dozens of times, and I can assure you, there are no 'clues'. I don't know how I can prove it to you, since I can't point out things that don't exist.

By the way, I don't see how the shadow priests are bound by codes of honour when they attacked a helpless Vorpax all at the same time, and while two were choking Kitana, a third priest used Kitana's own weapon to kill her. I don't see how that's honour.
AND, I also don't see how Shang Tsung has a higher ranking over Kahn's shadow priests since he...well, I don't know, BETRAYED Kahn and left long ago?
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07/08/2004 07:22 PM (UTC)
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skyboy Wrote:
I thought it was weird when Kitana AND Rayden died. It's sad they had to end it right there. The story was developing well...


Rayden didn't die...it was worse he became Shao Kahn's prisoner. In the very last scene we see a tortured Rayden kneeling before Shao Kahn as the emperor showed off his 'trophies.' I'm not sure of the order but it was Quan Chi's spikes, something of Shang Tsung's (two sorcerers DEAD!) Vorpax's green cape (a Queen DEAD!), Reptile's mask (a traitor DEAD!), Kitana's fans (a daughter DEAD!), Siro's dagger (a bodyguard DEAD!), Taja's fingercover (a thief DEAD!), and last Kung Lao's shirt (a iof course a champion DEAD!).
BTW I always wondered if it could have turned out nothing more than a bad dream caused by all that wine Rayden was drinking. He was trying to get drunk with that air-headed blonde on his lap when the whole mess started.
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07/09/2004 01:00 AM (UTC)
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Kahn's Shadow Priest's killed all of Kahn's enemies, then according to mortalkombat.com, Rayden pleaded with the Elder Gods then they brought everyone back to life then later Kung Lao fought Goro and died and.......well, you know the rest.
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Subzero_5th
07/09/2004 03:24 AM (UTC)
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Actually, when Kitana through her fans they hit the Priests right in the stomach and they took 'em off as if nothing had happened.

And from the Looks of things that Shadow Priests can't be mortals.

Rayden did try to get drunk in the previous episode but while he faced Kahn he was normal. I don't see how Shang tsung is of a higher rank. After all it was them who physically banished Shang Tsung in the Mines acting at the behest of Kahn
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07/10/2004 05:00 AM (UTC)
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Subzero_5th Wrote:
Rayden did try to get drunk in the previous episode but while he faced Kahn he was normal.


Well, how do we know that he *didn't* succeed in getting drunk? True, he's a god, but he's a lowly god, less powerful than the other gods that have a higher rank than him. Also, he can transform himself into human form (like he does for the MK games, and, I believe, has to do to appear in front of the mortals without them being blinded by his godliness or something...), so it's possible that he turned himself human to get drunk. Since he would be influenced in his human form like a normal human would (ie, bleed if he gets cut, etc.), then it would be conceivable that he could get drunk. Then, in his drunken stupor, his greatest fear would manifest itself into a very real-feeling nightmare.

As far as the 'hints' go, I could've sworn that there was something at the very end of the episode that gave the impression that it was just a drunken hallucination...
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Subzero_5th
07/11/2004 03:44 AM (UTC)
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I doubt it. If Rayden was drunk he wouldn't have done as good in the fight against Kahn
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07/11/2004 10:33 AM (UTC)
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Subzero_5th Wrote:
I doubt it. If Rayden was drunk he wouldn't have done as good in the fight against Kahn


But what if it was nothing but a drunken dream. Shoa Kahn never created the portal, Kung Lao and the others never went to that town, only Raiden got drunk and passed out in the middle of the bar.
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07/11/2004 08:35 PM (UTC)
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LadyRaiden Wrote:

Subzero_5th Wrote:
I doubt it. If Rayden was drunk he wouldn't have done as good in the fight against Kahn

But what if it was nothing but a drunken dream. Shoa Kahn never created the portal, Kung Lao and the others never went to that town, only Raiden got drunk and passed out in the middle of the bar.


Exactly. If it was nothing but a dream, then it wouldn't matter how drunk Raiden was. He'd still dream that he was in his prime when he fought Shao Khan. It would've all happened in his mind, and his drunkenness would've not affected how he percieved his fighting prowess, only the result of his hallucinated fight with Shao Khan (and every other bad and whacked-out thing that happened in the dream).

Besides, why did Raiden, of all people, want to get drunk? Did he have major doubts about Kung Lao and his friends? If so, then that would explain the final episode: After getting drunk in order to drown his fears and doubts about the Earth's safety, Raiden's mind would transform those fears and doubts into a worst-case-scenario nightmare that, to Raiden's drunken consciousness, would be eerilly real, even though it wasn't. He'd dream that the world was finally conquered by Shao Khan, while in reality, Kung Lao and the others would be hovering over him, wonderind why their guardian and local Thunder God is unconscious on the floor, and stinking like cheap booze.
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Subzero_5th
07/12/2004 03:29 AM (UTC)
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Nah that was no dream or hallucination. impossible. For a God anyway
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07/12/2004 04:37 AM (UTC)
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Subzero_5th Wrote:
Nah that was no dream or hallucination. impossible. For a God anyway


How do you know? Like I said, maybe Raiden took the form of a mortal in order to try and get drunk, and succeeded in passing out like a mortal would. Since he *would* be mortal in form, he would be influenced by his enviroment like a mortal would. Hence, if he wanted to get drunk, he could feasably do that in his mortal form.

Besides, do we really know what the gods in Mortal Kombat do during their spare time? Maybe they sleep and dream, maybe not. Who knows?

All I'm saying, is that it's possible...
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Subzero_5th
07/13/2004 03:24 AM (UTC)
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Well like I said,He may have been drunk then but not during his conversation and fight with Kahn.
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LadyRaiden
07/13/2004 07:37 AM (UTC)
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Subzero_5th Wrote:
Well like I said,He may have been drunk then but not during his conversation and fight with Kahn.


But if it was a drunken dream then the conversation and fight with Shao Kahn didn't really happen. It was all in Rayden's dream. (While he was out cold on the tavern floor.)
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Subzero_5th
07/13/2004 10:03 PM (UTC)
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How do you know that? Did they actually confirm it? I don't think so. Raiden was not in a drunken dream. It actually happened. That's ridiculous
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07/13/2004 11:04 PM (UTC)
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Subzero_5th Wrote:
How do you know that? Did they actually confirm it? I don't think so. Raiden was not in a drunken dream. It actually happened. That's ridiculous



Well, they never confirmed that it actually happened, either, now did they?

It is known that, in the episode before the finale, Raiden was in the tavern trying to get drunk. Then, everything goes straight to hell afterwards. Sure sounds like a drunken hallucination, to me. Even in Mortal Kombat, things can't go *that* downhill *that* fast.

Also, I have yet to hear an explination as to why Raiden was trying to get drunk, in the first place. He's a god. He has no reason to get drunk. Getting drunk usually means you're trying to drown your sorrows/doubts/fears/etc. about something. As a god, he'd have plenty of worries to deal with, but hey! He's a god! He doesn't have to dwell on them. Not nearly enough reason to transform into a mortal and get drunk, now is it?

And, you admitted that he might've succeeded in getting drunk prior to his confrontation with Shao Khan, yet sobered right up during it. I'll admit, this would make sense for a god, but if things are all going to pot around you, and you were a god, why in the hell would you wait until you confront the big bad guy causing the problems *at the very end of the episode* before sobering up? Makes no sense.

The finale being a drunken hallucination makes perfect sense, whereas it actually happening does not. There are too many contradicting elements with the episode and Raiden's attempt to get drunk the episode prior (and with itself during the actual episode) to lend credibility to the events in it actually being real. I'm still firmly believing that it was all a drunken nighmare conjured up by Raiden's deepest fears, rather than an actual "bad guys win" scenario.
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