yeah umm just curious if anyone thought this guy just put all that up there just for ppl to read it and get attendtion from?Like when you post something about something getting filmed of course ppl will read it but wtf i really dont see that getting filmed anytime soon(or ever)dont get mad at me its just how i feel about it thats all.

were can i find a summary of what a new dawn is about or short summary so i can decied if i want to read the whole thing

I bet ten bucks this never gets finished.

Why not just read the prologue?

sub-smoke Wrote: were can i find a summary of what a new dawn is about or short summary so i can decied if i want to read the whole thing

mkrevolution

Yeah, I love that site.

MKMaster Wrote: mkrevolution

This is practically illegal, every cent they make off of this goes to Threshold if they want to do it legally, even the posters and everything. Its called COPYRIGHT LAWS.

shawn_zombie Wrote: This is practically illegal, every cent they make off of this goes to Threshold if they want to do it legally, even the posters and everything. Its called COPYRIGHT LAWS.

Yeah, I also thought about that.

Anyway, MKAND was a very good fan fic script, but I don’t see it as a MK movie. Starting with how it focused so much in the ninjas, making them the main characters. It’s just not right.

A good fan fic? Yes.

For a movie? No.

Either way this Jon "Phoenix" Peterson sounds like an egomaniac, always calls himself Phoenix in each of his emails.

That would be true IF it was made commercially, which it probably won't. If it's not profitable, they can't get sued. For example, there have been a handful of fan made Batman movies; The creators never got sued simply because it wasn't distributed commercially.

shawn_zombie Wrote: This is practically illegal, every cent they make off of this goes to Threshold if they want to do it legally, even the posters and everything. Its called COPYRIGHT LAWS.

But they have posters for sale on MKR... all of that has to go to The Threshold or it's illegal.

themkmaster Wrote: That would be true IF it was made commercially, which it probably won't. font>

Those posters are not for sale, I think those were used to promote the screenplay.

shawn_zombie Wrote: But they have posters for sale on MKR... all of that has to go to The Threshold or it's illegal. themkmaster Wrote: That would be true IF it was made commercially, which it probably won't. font>

How would YOU know they're not for sell?

Jesus, this is pathetic.

How would I know? The way everyone knows; Where on earth do you see them up for sale? There's no mention of it ANYWHERE in the site that they are up for sale. What makes you think they're up for sale? Last time I checked, they're just fan made images, unless you can prove otherwise.

Shinnokxz Wrote: How would YOU know they're not for sell? Jesus, this is pathetic.

Who is going to produce it, star in it, what is it going to cost, where is it going to be filmed, who's doing the soundtrach and what type of soundtrack are we talking about?

It might not be a fake.. but it's certainly not going to be a big movie..
Which self respecting producer would call himself by a nickname in a mail and adresses the writer also by his nick.. also, he writes in the mail that he will be playing sub-zero himself... sooo.. and just another thing.. don't you need the rights from Midway for the licknesses and names and stuff? I don't have high hopes for this movie.. probably some kid who can use his father's camcorder or something.. but I would like to see "a new dawn" filmed.. PROPERLY! But that's just my opinion :s

I don't expect much from the movie, but it'll be interesting ragardless.

As for copyright issues, it won't be a problem as long as it's not going to be distributed commercially (basically as long as they make no profit).

fartbunny_mk Wrote: It might not be a fake.. but it's certainly not going to be a big movie.. Which self respecting producer would call himself by a nickname in a mail and adresses the writer also by his nick.. also, he writes in the mail that he will be playing sub-zero himself... sooo.. and just another thing.. don't you need the rights from Midway for the licknesses and names and stuff? I don't have high hopes for this movie.. probably some kid who can use his father's camcorder or something.. but I would like to see "a new dawn" filmed.. PROPERLY! But that's just my opinion :s

its strange... how can they make the war scene?
and the story revolves around the ninjas... addicted to the different ninjas...
too many people needed...

strange choice of words in the script... well, its just a screenplay, not a novel but still, its weird to read it...
'They fight and most attacks are blocked but some get in'
or something like that... sounds strange... hehe anyway, whatever happens, it will happen.

for the fight scenes that you just described...what exactly can you do for that? i know enough ma techniques to use, but its so broing to say

scorpion throws a right hook, then a jump spin kick, lands with another spin kick, its not interesting. doing what i did, i felt enabled the audience memeber to imagine it and think of his own techniques for the characters to use. its too complicated any other way.

I just read it, it's a little better than Annihilation, but not by far. It still has people showing up without explaining everything, it expects the audience to know everything like backstory, what character does what and stuff. In the first movie there was character development and all that, this screenplay is closer to Annihilation in nature rather than the 1st MK film.

I think it was much better than MKA. There was definately more character development and backstroy compared to MKA.

mk:news Wrote: I just read it, it's a little better than Annihilation, but not by far. It still has people showing up without explaining everything, it expects the audience to know everything like backstory, what character does what and stuff. In the first movie there was character development and all that, this screenplay is closer to Annihilation in nature rather than the 1st MK film.

No offense, but I just got done reading the script and this is really in no way a work of literary art. This really isn’t even a script. Scripts don’t have pictures and they don’t have weird wording. All the fight sequences cannot be explained in the script, you have to leave that for the fight choreographer. That's only one bit of faultiness this script had. There are more, but onto my point.

I’m not saying I hated it, I just don’t find this practical in any way. You must be realistic. First off, in order to make an MK film, you MUST have some type of loan. Why? I’ll tell you:

1) Costumes: Halloween costumes from K-Mart do not make an MK movie. You must hire a tailor to make the customs.
2) Actors: You have to have TALENTED actors play these roles. A 13 year old with no martial arts background that had a supporting role in the spring play for school cannot play Scorpion. Also, “dramatic talent” wouldn’t hurt either.
3) Location: You must build sets. Right now, all I see is this being filmed in some kid’s suburban backyard with his mom nagging at him to take out the garbage.
4) Equipment: A simple DV camera can’t capture everything. You must have lighting and, if anything, expensive DV cameras (more than one).

There are so many other factors to consider that cost more than some 15-year-old makes doing dishes. Then there’s paying back the loans. How do you do that? You sell merch, DVDs, etc. And what must you get before you even CONSIDER doing that? You must get a license from those untalented bastards at Threshold Entertainment. This may be good fan fiction; it could never be made into a serious movie. I’m sorry to tell you, it’s cold hard reality.

Then you must consider the man directing it. He must have a vision and he must have connections. A blind, pre-teen director can’t create anything more than a half-baked fight sequence in his living room, later to get grounded because he broke the couch. I’m not saying that you need to go spend thousands of dollars on film school just to become a director. Being a director is second nature; you either have it or you don’t. I sure hope the guy who directs this does, or this “movie” will never make anything, be it money or bandwidth.

Basically, all I have to say is this:

All this could be, or even dream of turning out to be, is a simple script a 14 year old wrote during lunch at school for two weeks.

Talk about jumpin to conclusions... Read:

BHSLF Wrote:
No offense, but I just got done reading the script and this is really in no way a work of literary art. This really isn’t even a script. Scripts don’t have pictures and they don’t have weird wording.

And that's BAD? Providing visuals to a screenplay is probably the first. Very original and creative.

All the fight sequences cannot be explained in the script, you have to leave that for the fight choreographer.

True, but it helps; Being descriptive certainly doesn't hurt the film. Quite the contrary.

I’m not saying I hated it, I just don’t find this practical in any way. You must be realistic. First off, in order to make an MK film, you MUST have some type of loan. Why, I’ll tell you.

1) Costumes: Halloween costumes from K-Mart do not make an MK movie. You must hire a tailor to make the customs.

??? What's all this? It's not even filmed yet, and what gave you the impression that it's gonna be a 'cheap' film?

2) Actors: You have to have TALENTED actors play these roles. A 13 year old with no martial arts background that had a supporting role in the spring play for school cannot play Scorpion.
Also, “dramatic talent” wouldn’t hurt either.

I agree. The only thing is that I wasn't aware that a 13 year old was gonna play Scorpion. Where'd you hear this?

3) Location: You must build sets. Right now, all I see is this being filmed in some kid’s suburban backyard with his mom nagging at him to take out the garbage.

Jumping to conclusion again? What makes you so sure they won't build sets?

4) Equipment: A simple DV camera can’t capture everything. You must have lighting and, if anything, expensive DV cameras (more than one).

Again, what you're saying isn't credible and you're jumping to conclusions. Let's just wait and see until it finally come out, and when it does, you can talk smack about it, assuming it's a piece of crap (hell, even if it's perfect, I doubt anyone in this forum will admit it...)

There are so many other factors to consider that cost more than some 15-year-old makes doing dishes.

What's all this teenager nonsense?

Then there’s paying back the loans. How do you do that? You sell merch, DVDs, etc. And what must you get before you even CONSIDER doing that? You must get a license from those untalented bastards at Threshold Entertainment. This may be good fan fiction; it could never be made into a serious movie. I’m sorry to tell you, it’s cold hard reality.

I doubt it; There are many fan made movies out there, and as long as it's not distributed commercially, their won't be any legal trouble (assuming no profit is being made, which there probably won't.)

Then you must consider the man directing it. He must have a vision and he must have connections. A blind, pre-teen director can’t create anything more than a half-baked fight sequence in his living room, later to get grounded because he broke the couch.

Again with the teen nonsense. I thought this was being done by a professional film director in college or somethin?

I’m not saying that you need to go spend thousands of dollars on film school just to become a director. Being a director is second nature; you either have it or you don’t. I sure hope the guy who directs this does, or this “movie” will never make anything, be it dollars or bandwidth.

Basically, all I have to say is this:

All this could be, or even dream of turning out to be, is a simple script a 14 year old wrote during lunch at school for two weeks.

Here we go again. I could definately understand your negativity IF this was done by teens, but I see no mention of it anyway. I say chill, and wait and see until it's released; Good or bad, you can certainly admit a new MK movie is something you're interested it, official or not (and this goes for everyone else in this forum).

To respond to some of your comments:

1) Every first script that a screenwriter has written has unnecessary description and fight sequences.

2) Every independent MK movie I have ever seen was done by a 13 year old. I doubt a film student would direct this.

I've mentioned this before, and I'll mention this again:

The script as some really hokey writing in it. This wouldn't be so bad if it were actually WRITTEN professionally, but the writing is drab and it doesn't have any life. Where's the composition? Originality? Wonderful descriptions? It's not bad, but it really lacks that special oomph when it comes to being a script for a movie. All of these factors are key to completing even the first drafts of a script.