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06/09/2010 06:47 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
This is interesting as an idea...a one off, shot in the dark type of thing. The video itself is entertaining enough. It's obvious the person behind this was passionate(about furthering his career with a recognizable property, not necessarily about the property itself).

Mortal Kombat has always been about violence, mysticism, and B-movie charm. I for one think there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.



Ditto
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06/09/2010 06:49 AM (UTC)
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Chrome put it very well.

Doesn't have a lot of creative merit, or cohesive vision, but he's definitely reached the insights of a fifteen year olds livejournal. Mature!
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06/09/2010 06:54 AM (UTC)
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I must second what I stated earlier...

You are overlooking the big picture here. This is merely a pitch to WB. a pitch is just an example of your work and to show what you could do. People that are viewing this video and hating it because characters are different are seemingly forgetting the real point of the video itself. This is not gonna be the MK movie. They are just showing off their potential. If WB picked up this director, that does not mean everything would have to be exactly like we saw in the video.

WB could hire this director, producer, and fight choreographer, and then proceed to get actual decent writers to make a nice script to go along with his film making talent. The movie could be dark, gritty, gory, set in a realistic setting, and have awesome fight scenes as seen in the video, but that doesn't mean they couldn't make the characters the same or closer to the games as well as come up with their own story.

There's nothing saying we couldn't get a mix of what we saw in the video, as well as some of the fantasy and supernatural elements from the MK story as well as the characters portrayed in their natural origins etc. The only thing you should focus on is how well the video before our eyes is made, and it was made very damn well. I really think WB should hire these guys, and then write up a new script and story that fits closer to what we know of in the games, and make that the actual movie.
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06/09/2010 06:57 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
krac_poe Wrote:
Chrome put it very well.

Doesn't have a lot of creative merit, or cohesive vision, but he's definitely reached the insights of a fifteen year olds livejournal. Mature!


I am always open for criticism. Do explain what do you mean.

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06/09/2010 07:01 AM (UTC)
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First post in a really long time.

Watching this really ignited my interest in MK again. After the pathetic Armageddon I was turned off and MK vs DC didn't bring me back. MK has grown stale. It needs a fresh slate either by a reboot or reimagining. As long as it sticks to the roots of MK.

I really liked the gritty style and how it was much more grounded in reality. To me MK was about the characters so seeing these characters in new ways is very exciting. The mature level of violence was also great. I'd be supportive of this as a game and/or movie.
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06/09/2010 07:14 AM (UTC)
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I am always open for criticism. Do explain what do you mean.

I don't know how to elaborate on 'you don't have much of a point.'

Intellectual properties like Mortal Kombat aren't exactly a new deal, and weighing in at under twenty years, we especially shouldn't be expecting to throw in the towel just yet. It's definitely not so dire it needs to do a completely creative 180 to get back on the tracks, especially not with a frankly already dated and pathetic aesthetic fad!

They're still discussing Batman, Sherlock Holmes, and Dracula too.
Having a modicum of perspective to discuss ideas isn't always going to be completely dependent on some sort of Peter Pan complex.

Do I really have to elaborate, or can we finally all start assuming that this is a terrible footnote on the road to E3 when people will get just as stupid for whatever crap they're calling a new game? I mean really. Raise your hand if you like the video because it's MK. Raise your hand if you'd like it if it wasn't MK. If you want to play BIOfreaks I'm sure you can find a copy.
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06/09/2010 07:25 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:
I am always open for criticism. Do explain what do you mean.

I don't know how to elaborate on 'you don't have much of a point.'

Intellectual properties like Mortal Kombat aren't exactly a new deal, and weighing in at under twenty years, we especially shouldn't be expecting to throw in the towel just yet. It's definitely not so dire it needs to do a completely creative 180 to get back on the tracks, especially not with a frankly already dated and pathetic aesthetic fad!

They're still discussing Batman, Sherlock Holmes, and Dracula too.
Having a modicum of perspective to discuss ideas isn't always going to be completely dependent on some sort of Peter Pan complex.

Do I really have to elaborate, or can we finally all start assuming that this is a terrible footnote on the road to E3 when people will get just as stupid for whatever crap they're calling a new game? I mean really. Raise your hand if you like the video because it's MK. Raise your hand if you'd like it if it wasn't MK. If you want to play BIOfreaks I'm sure you can find a copy.


Duly noted.

Mostly, I am more distraught about how emotionally obsessive some people here can be. Fan Wank. Especially fan wank. A shame really.

I think MK needs to reinvent. Frankly speaking, MKDA was good, compared to itself as a franchise but even then nothing new has been brought on the field. MK to have any kind of effect would need dire changes, one such change would be imo this kind of direction.

Yes, I like what I see. MK or not MK. I have a pedilation for voilent artistry, as myself I also dabble in it. This as it looks like a psychothriller with some fine martial art action in it. Not everything you see everyday. If it even manages to touch MK, better.

Problem is, I do not like MK for being MK, I like MK for it has entertainment and some other value. If it lacks these things as Mk (MK4 for example) I am not obliged to like it simply because it has MK on it. To do so would be lying to myself.


About the style: the Batman rewamp used these highly contrasting sharp neon, cold lights. Since when did having those make it like a Nolan movie (which thankfully to Bale I never got right into, him being and acting out of place when being Batman)? Certain things are archetypical instruments of certain dramatic genres, others are cliche. The light can be like Nolans, but being gritty and using visual suspense is not a cliche. it is a requirement.


I do however agree that this looks more like a movie version of Thrill Kill.
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06/09/2010 07:25 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
I don't understand all the hate. This franchise has needed reinvention for a long time now and it could possibly get a much needed make over, everyone is bitching.

I notice you have a Green Lantern signature there.
Well, how about this? None of this spacey hoohah. He's a guy with a gun and he shoots people and this Sinestro guy is having parts of his body coated in gold! Mmm, realistic! Better than that crap Geoff Johns did to reinvigorate the franchise, eh? Pfeh!

See I don't see this being that big of a stretch, so its Mortal Kombat meets Manhunt. I'm ok with this as long as the original concept is in tact which I feel it is sans th boom tube hopping. Shang Tsungs tournament, Scorpion's vendetta against Sub-Zero, Johnny Cage's failed acting career all remain in tact.
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06/09/2010 07:26 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Accept the fact that the Mk saga is done and finished.


When did that happen? Armageddon didn't really have a conclusion, so what gives?

People spend vast amounts of time with plot analysis and trying to justify why some characters are better or not... To be blunt: grow finally up. And out of it.


Because we sure wouldn't want to use these discussion boards to discuss things.

At least you are lucky, and Hideaki Anno is not involved with this. Otherwise you would get the harsher response to fanboyism.


I don't know who that is, but the fact that you like him makes me wary. You have poor taste.

You truly think you are entitled to have Midway, WB, Boon slave away to continue a failing outdated piece of your personalised escape fantasy? Really?


Since I've been giving them my money for years and would continue to, yeah. I feel very entitled.


so stop screaming and protesting like someone raped your sister...


I don't have a sister. So they'd basically be raping air.
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06/09/2010 07:45 AM (UTC)
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I'm all for a reboot a re-invention or a re-imagining of the Mortal Kombat franchise.

It's been said before that Mortal Kombat as we know it has run its course and needs a fresh start - I agree.

However, I don't think that this video is at all Mortal Kombat. It's bears no resemblance to the original save for the names.

What makes something Mortal Kombat are a few of the MAJOR MK characters (Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Jax, Sonya, Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Kitana, etc.), a touch of mysticism (even if it's a realistically-portrayed pseudo-mysticism, that makes you question whether or not it's all just a coincidence), and fighting. Also, MK isn't a horror video game; sorry, but it's not scary; I'm not opposed to MK being scary, but when horror dominates the atmosphere, as opposed to the fighting, it's not MK anymore.

A few small changes to that video, specifically the addition of some mysticism, and the playing down of some of the horror aspects and it would be MK, totally.
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06/09/2010 07:50 AM (UTC)
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Having read all over non-MK forums and game sites, the response to this movie demo has been overwhelming, unquestionably positive. For the first time in years, people other than us select hardcore are talking about the franchise... and in GOOD ways. After years of mediocre games, irrelevance, and insults, MK has become, dare I say, COOL again.

I hope something like this is the direction for the next MK property, be it movie or game, simply because this promo has generated more good-will and positive buzz than almost anything else related to the franchise in over 10 years.

I'm all for it. It's time for some change. Let's make MK awesome again.
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06/09/2010 07:53 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Having read all over non-MK forums and game sites, the response to this movie demo has been overwhelming, unquestionably positive. For the first time in years, people other than us select hardcore are talking about the franchise... and in GOOD ways. After years of mediocre games, irrelevance, and insults, MK has become, dare I say, COOL again.

I hope something like this is the direction for the next MK property, be it movie or game, simply because this promo has generated more good-will and positive buzz than almost anything else related to the franchise in over 10 years.

I'm all for it. It's time for some change. Let's make MK awesome again.


I agree whole heartedly sir.
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06/09/2010 07:54 AM (UTC)
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OptimusGrime Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:
Accept the fact that the Mk saga is done and finished.


When did that happen? Armageddon didn't really have a conclusion, so what gives?



Armageddon had conclusions for every character.That they were in poor taste and were the product of coprorate management cuts is another issue. Armageddon finished in the most half assed way possible. Some people conciously try to erase this, but those kata endings were infact, conclusions.

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At least you are lucky, and Hideaki Anno is not involved with this. Otherwise you would get the harsher response to fanboyism.


I don't know who that is, but the fact that you like him makes me wary. You have poor taste.



So.... let me get this straight. You criticise my opinion since it does not match with yours. Yet, you presume that this person should be viewed in a negative way, not knowing who he is, simply because I mentioned it. Prejudiced much?

OptimusGrime Wrote:
Chrome Wrote:


You truly think you are entitled to have Midway, WB, Boon slave away to continue a failing outdated piece of your personalised escape fantasy? Really?


Since I've been giving them my money for years and would continue to, yeah. I feel very entitled.




That is entirely irrelevant. You gave them money. They care about profit. If you feel cheated out of it, though luck. If you continue to buy their stuff, who is exactly on the receiving end of the Bitch and the Butch conga line?

You feel entitled, I accept that. And there is nothing wrong with it. But do realize that they care little about it. They care about sales records. Not your opinion on how good the game is.



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06/09/2010 07:57 AM (UTC)
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LMAO...good lord...AIR RAPE!!!
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06/09/2010 07:59 AM (UTC)
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I too really liked this video, the only thing that saddens me a little is that apparently Liu Kang won't be in the movie.
Still, it's very nice to see Mk get so overwhelmingly positive attention all over the net. Almost like the good ol days of Mk2/mk3.
If this was actually representative of the new game I think they'd be on to a monster hit with the game.

This vidfeo actually managed to make Mk relevant again.
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06/09/2010 08:02 AM (UTC)
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I too really liked this video, the only thing that saddens me a little is that apparently Liu Kang won't be in the movie.


Eh, just because he wasn't in this trailer doesn't mean he won't be in the movie. He can be Shang Zung's right hand man and throw molotov cocktails instead of fireballs.
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06/09/2010 08:03 AM (UTC)
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oops, that would be a double post...sorry.
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06/09/2010 08:05 AM (UTC)
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Apparently it's been stated by people involved with the movie that neither Kang or Raiden will be in it.
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06/09/2010 08:07 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
Santar Wrote:
I too really liked this video, the only thing that saddens me a little is that apparently Liu Kang won't be in the movie.


Eh, just because he wasn't in this trailer doesn't mean he won't be in the movie. He can be Shang Zung's right hand man and throw molotov cocktails instead of fireballs.


Man, that Liu Kang already sounds more badass than the previous one....

Hell, I even pay for licensing a shaolin monk with molotov coctail-fu.

Santar Wrote:
Apparently it's been stated by people involved with the movie that neither Kang or Raiden will be in it.



Proof, link or otherwise did not happen.
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06/09/2010 08:10 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
Santar Wrote:
I too really liked this video, the only thing that saddens me a little is that apparently Liu Kang won't be in the movie.


Eh, just because he wasn't in this trailer doesn't mean he won't be in the movie. He can be Shang Zung's right hand man and throw molotov cocktails instead of fireballs.


Man, that Liu Kang already sounds more badass than the previous one....

Hell, I even pay for licensing a shaolin monk with molotov coctail-fu.

Santar Wrote:
Apparently it's been stated by people involved with the movie that neither Kang or Raiden will be in it.


haha, reboots can be fun.
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06/09/2010 08:11 AM (UTC)
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LMAO...good lord...AIR RAPE!!!


The air particles struggled, but I knew they wanted it.
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06/09/2010 08:14 AM (UTC)
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I think its ironic that these people got this short (promo)film made in such a short time and yet Threshold couldn't do jack S*** within 13 years after MKA.

Anyways, I liked the video and it kept me entertained. I personally can't say one way or the other if this would be a good direction to go as I don't think 8mins or so is enough time to say, yeah, that worked. I wanted to hear the mortal kombat song during the baraka cage fight, come on, why was that not added in? Someone needs to redo this promo vid with the dragon intro and MK theme and have the title of Mortal Kombat rebirth at the end.


Just think how much better this could have been if a huge studio was backing them and they had so much more to work with, so I think they did a fantastic job for it being inde and whatnot.


But yeah, the video did what it was suppose to do and that was to get us talking about a new mk film and or game and hope that WB notices how much attention it got and this get off the ground, assuming its a pitch idea.
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06/09/2010 08:16 AM (UTC)
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Santar Wrote:
Apparently it's been stated by people involved with the movie that neither Kang or Raiden will be in it.


There is no movie. This was just a damn pitch, a sample, an appetizer...simply to try and get WB interested in hiring them to make an actual MK movie. What you see is what you get...that's it, nothing else. It's only for show. Not real.

I am stressing this so much because some people are under the impression that what you see in that video is already part of some movie. Or that if there was a movie, what you saw would be in it. That's not the case. It's to show what they could do if given the support and opportunity from WB. The characters in the movie and the whole story could be completely different if WB chooses to make an actual movie.

So whoever these people are that you claim to be telling you who is in the movie and who isn't, they are likely just lying to you to gain attention.
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06/09/2010 08:28 AM (UTC)
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I think its ironic that these people got this short (promo)film made in such a short time and yet Threshold couldn't do jack S*** within 13 years after MKA.



Trashhold. Heh.
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06/09/2010 08:38 AM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
sonicherosfan1 Wrote:
I think its ironic that these people got this short (promo)film made in such a short time and yet Threshold couldn't do jack S*** within 13 years after MKA.



Trashhold. Heh.


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