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heartoffire
12/24/2010 01:18 AM (UTC)
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It's not just the boobs that bother with the females.

Im a man who would like women in a fighting tournament to have a variety of body features.

Just look at SF4, Tekken and Soul Calibur, Blazblue, etc for ex:

Chun-li's legs and medium sized breast, Sakura's flat chest, Cammy's small chest and tone buttocks. Ivy's thick frame compared to Talim's thin frame.

Each female is either thin, tall, big, or small and those competitor's games.

In MK now that they are making next gen fighting games, every girl has the same body type, I see no difference other than the hair and clothing (I believe every female will have heels on this game) on thier identical bodies. It looks like the only thing correct for all the games is skin tone. It's a shame NRS is letting the unreal engine limit them so much on just design.

How hard could it be to go into Zbrush and change the size of a girl's weight or height compared to the latter? If they can model Xrays for each they can definelty do that. That's why I'm not into the females much on MK like I use to be.
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~Crow~
12/24/2010 01:23 AM (UTC)
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StatueofLiberty Wrote:

There are plenty of MMA fighters who are just as disciplined as the next that aren't perfectly sculpted from marble. I'm not disagreeing with you about this whole breast issue, but to single out the female population of NRS is just corny in lieu of all these perfect adonis'.


Sure. Like I said though, MK has a few exceptions (as do fighting games in general). There is also variation. Cage and Jax both are toned, but they still look like they have notably different sizes. There are plenty of "ugly" MK characters as well. Many of the male characters are not very appealing sexually. Also, it isn't particularly unhealthy to strive for a muscular body. Obviously one can go overboard, but being in shape is nothing that's a bad goal to have or present to people. Having large breasts is though, because normal girls don't all naturally possess mountains on their chests. As I said before, I just want some variation so it doesn't totally ruin the effect for me. Fiction is fine, but believable fiction is the best kind because that's what gets you into a story. If the characters are designed in silly manners it really deters this, at least for me.

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I suppose. Were you bothered so much in MK vs DCU with Sonya's scenes?

Her breasts bounced like crazy in those scenes, while walking up to Green Lantern, and her nipples were clearly visible through her shirt.


Sure I was. This isn't a new thing or anything, I was just hoping against the obvious that they would take more than just the gore level seriously this time.
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LucaTurilli
12/24/2010 01:25 AM (UTC)
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heartoffire Wrote:
It's not just the boobs that bother with the females.

Im a man who would like women in a fighting tournament to have a variety of body features.

Just look at SF4, Tekken and Soul Calibur, Blazblue, etc for ex:


Chun-Li has some pretty big knockers, if you ask me, and Soul Calibur has waaaaay more focus on breasts than MK.

Regardless, I don't think the "styles" of any of those games are akin to Mortal Kombat.

I've said it many times. I find Mortal Kombat's presentation to be all about excess. I have no problem with womens' breasts being proportioned with more contrast to one another, but I have come to accept the overdone sexuality as part of Mortal Kombat's core. That said, I know there's more approaches to sexuality than large breasts, but again, Mortal Kombat has never been known for subtlety.
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LucaTurilli
12/24/2010 01:26 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Sure I was. This isn't a new thing or anything, I was just hoping against the obvious that they would take more than just the gore level seriously this time.


I feel you. I have no problems with your opinion. I just think your looking for moderation or subtlety in the wrong game.
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12/24/2010 01:29 AM (UTC)
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Which one you perfer?

but really, Its not like this wasn't done before, who cares its an agmented reality!wink
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~Crow~
12/24/2010 01:33 AM (UTC)
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Not necessarily. Deadly Alliance is a good example of a game I feel is well done. Not perfect, of course, but well done. There was not a ton of focus on sex in the females in that game. Yes I realize it was the debut of "the thong", but that costume was still far more tasteful than what we're seeing in this game. MK:DA is still probably Kitana's best costume, though again not perfect but very elegant in my opinion. Li Mei's main costume was something unique and new, Frost was a female ninja. The main focus felt like it was on the story, where I prefer it to be, instead of on eye candy.

Again, I'm only asking for diversity. To go with what I said about MK:DA above, there was also Ashrah in MKD. I just don't think every female needs the exact same body and a skimpy costume thrown on it. They have toned down the silliness of Mortal Kombat from the 90's, and in my opinion their character design team is being just as "silly" as 18 ribcages are. Both are unnecessary and unrealistic.
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stinky_thc_cloud
12/24/2010 01:41 AM (UTC)
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This whole everybody complaing about the body types of the females being the same. Its been like that since the begingin of MK theres never been a huge boob character (ivy soul calibur) a thunder thighs girl (chun li) or an ass chick or a little petite jail bait japanese school girl (god some game developers are fucking twisted lol)

Id like some variety yes, but really theyve been like this all along.

BTW can anyone tell if sindels model is the same (she seems shorter than the rest but that may just be me tripping out)

Well if sheeva makes shell have a different model lol. Maby scarlett will be in and not have massive boobs or sareena mabye. I have a feeling we will prolly see some post mk 3 females considering mk is so low on females when compared to other modern day fighters. Who knows Khamelon might even make it. (the girl the guy has been offically axed)
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LucaTurilli
12/24/2010 01:42 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Not necessarily. Deadly Alliance is a good example of a game I feel is well done. Not perfect, of course, but well done. There was not a ton of focus on sex in the females in that game. Yes I realize it was the debut of "the thong", but that costume was still far more tasteful than what we're seeing in this game. MK:DA is still probably Kitana's best costume, though again not perfect but very elegant in my opinion. Li Mei's main costume was something unique and new, Frost was a female ninja. The main focus felt like it was on the story, where I prefer it to be, instead of on eye candy.

Again, I'm only asking for diversity. To go with what I said about MK:DA above, there was also Ashrah in MKD. I just don't think every female needs the exact same body and a skimpy costume thrown on it. They have toned down the silliness of Mortal Kombat from the 90's, and in my opinion their character design team is being just as "silly" as 18 ribcages are. Both are unnecessary and unrealistic.


I'm not against diversity, I've simply come to accept Mortal Kombat's more primal approach.

I think they're trying very hard to be as shocking as possible this time around as well.

Like I said, Mortal Kombat is growing with the tolerance for sex and violence in the west. I only expect it to be more apparent in the later installments.
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heartoffire
12/24/2010 01:55 AM (UTC)
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
This whole everybody complaing about the body types of the females being the same. Its been like that since the begingin of MK theres never been a huge boob character (ivy soul calibur) a thunder thighs girl (chun li) or an ass chick or a little petite jail bait japanese school girl (god some game developers are fucking twisted lol)

Id like some variety yes, but really theyve been like this all along.

BTW can anyone tell if sindels model is the same (she seems shorter than the rest but that may just be me tripping out)

Well if sheeva makes shell have a different model lol. Maby scarlett will be in and not have massive boobs or sareena mabye. I have a feeling we will prolly see some post mk 3 females considering mk is so low on females when compared to other modern day fighters. Who knows Khamelon might even make it. (the girl the guy has been offically axed)


That's the only reason why I want Sheeva to be in to really see what NRS can do with the Unreal Engine. They never made a next gen version of her yet, so it could be really interesting to see if they can take on her design and make her stand out from the rest (definetly with those arms and height). Goro might prevent that from happening, but we'll see eventually.
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stinky_thc_cloud
12/24/2010 02:03 AM (UTC)
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I would personally like to see sheeva in. But if Goro is playable in the main roster (not a boss) then I doubt it. If hes a boss I think shes got a chance.

I dont know her story to well. I know she was sindels gaurd and rebeled against shao kahn. However I dont know how essential she is to the story. She in the same catagory as the centaurs. The time shifting and what not gives them a logical explination to being axed
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12/24/2010 02:06 AM (UTC)
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
I would personally like to see sheeva in. But if Goro is playable in the main roster (not a boss) then I doubt it. If hes a boss I think shes got a chance.

I dont know her story to well. I know she was sindels gaurd and rebeled against shao kahn. However I dont know how essential she is to the story. She in the same catagory as the centaurs. The time shifting and what not gives them a logical explination to being axed


Ahem this is a boob topic not a sheeva topic stick with the program man.

Sonyas boob jiggle is ridiculous its a little much for me. Boobs are a little big but I'd still like something under that vest.
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12/24/2010 02:07 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
I didn't see any crazy movement... her breasts bounce like any other breasts do in video games.

But I am going to youtube microwaved jello now.

Why are they moving at all, though? Shouldn't the clothing be more restrictive than that?

I would have to re-check the vids to be certain, but I don't think Mileena's bounced to that degree. Not a 100% sure, though.

*thinks for a moment, and continues to sip his microwaved jello*
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12/24/2010 02:08 AM (UTC)
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Everything looks about right to me! smile
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Locusta
12/24/2010 02:12 AM (UTC)
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There'd be no "logical" reason for Sheeva t be axed.... not with Nightwolf, Ermac and Stryker in the game. AlsoKratoslol

Goro will be a lumbering monster, even if he's playable, at best capable of bursts of speed and maybe not even able to team up with others.

Sheeva is the "legit" Shokan. Also she's awesome, and will lead the Shokans to glory while Goro dies by the side of his sugardaddy Shao Kahn(wat a pimp)
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stinky_thc_cloud
12/24/2010 02:24 AM (UTC)
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O I think shes legit to, its just not every fan feels the same way. Shed be in the game if it were up to me, but Im not sure if it will happen.

And yea my bad this is a thread complaining about breasts not sheeve.

.... wait WHAT! were COMPLAINING abour breasts?

back on topic... Sheeva should have the biggest boobs of all ... FOUR OF THEM!!!

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ServantToMileena
12/24/2010 02:25 AM (UTC)
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Oh God, Sheeva creeps me enough as it is....
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Locusta
12/24/2010 02:32 AM (UTC)
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lol IMO this topic is now about Sheeva, and prolly should have been from the beginning. You want variety? YEAH SO DO I. Looking much forward to the Sheeva reveal. and her epic fatality. wooty woo. btw for those that dont know, I represent a signifigant portion of fans unable or unwilling to post here and remind ppl how awesome Sheeva is to people who lack ninja fetishes..


Mind you I do like titties, so I'll not stop anyone from reverting back to that noble and just topic.
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12/24/2010 02:34 AM (UTC)
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Locusta Wrote:
There'd be no "logical" reason for Sheeva t be axed.... not with Nightwolf, Ermac and Stryker in the game.

Well, Nightwolf, Ermac, and Stryker do have bigger fanbases. No one was making noise about Sheeva till they found out she might not be in the game.

Granted, I think she should be in just to make the story complete.
Four Boobed Sheeva in her MK3 Costume...*Shivers* NO THANK YOU. No more of the MK3 costume. never bring it back again.

When it comes to the General Boob Discussion I find myself in the middle. I'm not interested in tits to fight for them to stay but I don't care enough to complain about them being in the game.
Actually Sheeva's fanbase is either on par with the Stryker fanbase or right behind it. vvv Not the best argument by the way vvv
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Locusta
12/24/2010 02:38 AM (UTC)
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I really doubt Sheeva's fanbase is smaller than Nightwolf's lol.....but I digress.


Nightwolf does not have Hentai made in his image/end debate
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LucaTurilli
12/24/2010 02:46 AM (UTC)
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Locusta Wrote:
I really doubt Sheeva's fanbase is smaller than Nightwolf's lol.....but I digress.


Nightwolf does not have Hentai made in his image/end debate


Nightwolf's fanbase dominates Sheeva's, lol.
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12/24/2010 02:48 AM (UTC)
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Locusta Wrote:
I really doubt Sheeva's fanbase is smaller than Nightwolf's lol.....but I digress.


Nightwolf does not have Hentai made in his image/end debate

There are lot more users at this forum who have user names attributed to Nightwolf. There are literally none which reference Sheeva.

The reason there's more hentai for Sheeva is because typically guys look at hentai, and most would rather see a naked four-armed woman than a Native American dude.
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stinky_thc_cloud
12/24/2010 02:51 AM (UTC)
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Sheeva Hentai? lol

Thank you, you have made me feel much more normal ahahha.
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12/24/2010 02:52 AM (UTC)
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Da_Hustler Wrote:
Am I the only one who hates those monster boobs on all the female characters? Seeing Sonya in action makes me laugh. This looks so crap. Is this game made for 15 year old nerds or what?

Reduce the boobs size Boon!


Well, Sonya has always had mega boobs.

As for the rest of them, wow
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ServantToMileena
12/24/2010 02:53 AM (UTC)
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About the Sheeva hentai, don't calculate it into fan favorites. Only those most unique individuals would ever want to see her naked.
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