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moneyguy
10/31/2013 01:26 PM (UTC)
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This is Mortal Kombat, keep my girls looking beautiful (nod to Jade)

I honestly don't think the females are OVERsexualized. Mileena maybe, but in reference to costume one could say the same about Sheeva, so why is no one complaining about her?

I'm for whatever they do as long as they don't knock Jade for the inclusion of other females like Sareena, Kira, or Nitara *shutters*

Give me revamped Tanya, Li Mei, and a sane Mileena. grin

On a sidenote, I'd take Sareena if she came without Ashrah.
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hankypanky1
11/03/2013 02:04 PM (UTC)
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This is my vision of peacocking for Mk characters. I want them to look high value that's why i have upscale fashion costume designs compiled. I'm through with characters looking low value even if she is a hot babe.
Neckerchief is stylish

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Skaven13
11/03/2013 03:11 PM (UTC)
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I honestly laughed through most of the story mode partly because of how the females were totally oversexualized, yet the male characters were to take them and their roles totally seriously.

Riiiiiight. grin

The team needs to tone it down. A lot. The MKDA & MKD designs were a step in the right direction. Kitana at least looked like she was dressed for battle, not a bikini show. I really hate how they sacrificed character and role on the altar of eyecandy.

"I am Kitana. I am princess of Outworld. You will learn respect! Check out my thong".
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Spider804
11/03/2013 05:50 PM (UTC)
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Johnny Cage is the only "Stylish" character in Mortal Kombat, it wouldn't make sense for all the people taking part in a bloody gory tournament to the death to be all "peacocky", especially when half of them aren't even from Earth.
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hankypanky1
11/04/2013 04:43 PM (UTC)
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Hey skaven +1

That's whats up;)
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Icebaby
11/04/2013 05:51 PM (UTC)
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Skaven13 Wrote:
The team needs to tone it down. A lot. The MKDA & MKD designs were a step in the right direction. Kitana at least looked like she was dressed for battle, not a bikini show. I really hate how they sacrificed character and role on the altar of eyecandy..


I was gonna agree with your entire post until this paragraph.

Their secondaries doesn't show me they were heading in the right direction. Even if their primaries weren't showing off that much, they still couldn't help themselves with a skimpier secondary.

Kitana was the only one that actually was right in Deadly Alliance, mainly because they didn't decide to give her a skimpy outfit. Her purple-ish primary was decent, but then they gave her the MK3 look (in a way) that wasn't outdoing whatsoever.

However, you have Li Mei who's in a bikini with boy shorts, Frost is nowhere near what a student of the Lin Kuei looks like, Nitara's outfit got even shorter and Sonya... well... I take that back, Kitana AND Sonya were the only ones they got right... although I didn't care for her primary as much as I did for her secondary. I just... didn't quite understand her look there.

I mean, not every girl needs to look like a slave of Jabba the Hutt.
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Skaven13
11/04/2013 06:21 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Skaven13 Wrote:
The team needs to tone it down. A lot. The MKDA & MKD designs were a step in the right direction. Kitana at least looked like she was dressed for battle, not a bikini show. I really hate how they sacrificed character and role on the altar of eyecandy..


I was gonna agree with your entire post until this paragraph.

Their secondaries doesn't show me they were heading in the right direction. Even if their primaries weren't showing off that much, they still couldn't help themselves with a skimpier secondary.

Kitana was the only one that actually was right in Deadly Alliance, mainly because they didn't decide to give her a skimpy outfit. Her purple-ish primary was decent, but then they gave her the MK3 look (in a way) that wasn't outdoing whatsoever.

However, you have Li Mei who's in a bikini with boy shorts, Frost is nowhere near what a student of the Lin Kuei looks like, Nitara's outfit got even shorter and Sonya... well... I take that back, Kitana AND Sonya were the only ones they got right... although I didn't care for her primary as much as I did for her secondary. I just... didn't quite understand her look there.

I mean, not every girl needs to look like a slave of Jabba the Hutt.


It's funny you mention that, because as I was typing that out, Sonya and Kitana were the two that were primarily on my mind, mainly because those are the two with the most established backstory, and the costumes, as they are now, just betray those completely. I really didn't take into account Nitara, Li Mei, or Frost. After reading this, a few comments on each character:
Frost: I completely concurr with your arguement with Frost. Not very fitting for a student of the Lin Kuei, female or male.
Nitara: Eh, this one I can almost excuse. Vampires, it seems in most media, are meant to be seductive in a way. This outfit does the trick. Any more lost, though, I think would completely kill it. Granted I like to see more class in design, but that's a personal preference over character vs design contradiction.
Li Mei: We really don't know too much about their character to make a clear judgement about her outfit, but here is what little we do know. She is a villager who desires to see her people free. She believes she has the martial ability to not only compete in this tournament, but win, winning the freedom of her people. Knowing the stakes, would she wear a bikini to the arena? I'm guessing probably not. For continuity's sake, she was clad in a similar manner in MKD, so it is not like she went from clothes to bikini like some of the other characters. It is hard to say with her.
It is ironic, and a bit telling, that 3 out of 3 of the new female characters have skimpy or overly revealing outfits that don't really suit the role of battle too well. Even so, those outfits seemed more intricate (what little was there) in design than the MK 2011's model of "bikini, loincloth, bracelets, earings, done!" approach.

It's also funny you mention the Jabba the Hutt slave girl thing (funny and a bit scary) because THAT was running through my head as I was typing this as well wow . Jabba dressed those girls to humiliate them and to show them off as his prize, for his minions to salivate over. Here we have a design team that thinks assasins and princesses will dress like this on their own whim. And they tried to tell a serious story.

Though I cannot prove it 100%, but based on their marketing campaign for MK2011 (men's magazines for one), it appeared to me that the MK team sacrificed character design and concept for eyecandy, all in the name of more profit. As an artist and writer, that seriously bothers me. If you need to depend on something like that to gain sales instead of the quality of your own product, something is wrong. Funny-type alts are one thing (Princess Leia in the slavegirl outfit running around in the new Battlefront game on Endor would be funny). Primarys, though, another thing altogether (Princess Leia doing the same thing in the movie, more head-scratchingly odd than funny).
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Icebaby
11/04/2013 10:14 PM (UTC)
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Based on what they did to their characters, I feel that they went directly to shock value and cared more about that than giving a damn about what their characters actually look like... Well more for the female characters at least.
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hankypanky1
11/04/2013 11:05 PM (UTC)
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MK isn't a fashion show nor is that my intention of what to make MK. I just think most of the female characters who are from Edenia should not dress like strippers because Kitana's a princess, Sindel is Queen etc. So they should be wearing combat fit clothes that are of high value, that is why I suggest fashion from catwalk/runway because they are classy and sassy, whereas Stripper clothes are trashy and of low value. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, in fact the two most viewed and most replied topics sorted by descending order on the first page in themortalkombat boards is about the girls clothing.



Proof can be found here



Proof can also be found here



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Skaven13
11/05/2013 05:08 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Based on what they did to their characters, I feel that they went directly to shock value and cared more about that than giving a damn about what their characters actually look like... Well more for the female characters at least.


But it doesn't work anymore. People aren't really shocked with video games anymore. I really hope that is not what their aim was, because that ship sailed a long time ago (me, personally, I'm more shocked with things I see and hear about in real life instead of video games). But I think you are right. They went for the shock factor, with how overly gory the fatalities were this time around, and the ridiculous outfits. But it just doesn't work. Very few people will be surprised at the fatalities, some fans will be ticked at the terrible handling of their characters and mythos, and the rest will simply not care. I kind of thought they figured this out with MK5. It appeared to me that they realized the shock factor was gone, so they focused on the mythos, the characters, the story, the design, and you could tell. The fatalities even weren't the goriest, but they were certainly flashy, with a heavy eastern/martial arts feel to most of them (moreso in MKD, imo).

As far as shock goes, I am pretty sure Lara Croft's new makeover caused more shock and conversation among the fans of the series than these ladies did. There's some irony right there.
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hankypanky1
11/18/2013 12:52 AM (UTC)
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I don't want to see Human Reptile. I want to see Human Sub-Zero back. I dont want all ninjas to become human again. This is how I want Reptile to look

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hankypanky1
02/17/2014 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Skaven13 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Based on what they did to their characters, I feel that they went directly to shock value and cared more about that than giving a damn about what their characters actually look like... Well more for the female characters at least.


But it doesn't work anymore. People aren't really shocked with video games anymore. I really hope that is not what their aim was, because that ship sailed a long time ago (me, personally, I'm more shocked with things I see and hear about in real life instead of video games). But I think you are right. They went for the shock factor, with how overly gory the fatalities were this time around, and the ridiculous outfits. But it just doesn't work. Very few people will be surprised at the fatalities, some fans will be ticked at the terrible handling of their characters and mythos, and the rest will simply not care. I kind of thought they figured this out with MK5. It appeared to me that they realized the shock factor was gone, so they focused on the mythos, the characters, the story, the design, and you could tell. The fatalities even weren't the goriest, but they were certainly flashy, with a heavy eastern/martial arts feel to most of them (moreso in MKD, imo).

As far as shock goes, I am pretty sure Lara Croft's new makeover caused more shock and conversation among the fans of the series than these ladies did. There's some irony right there.


female Kitana Wielder Just look at Kill Bill. Badass and classy.


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02/18/2014 02:55 AM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Skaven13 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Based on what they did to their characters, I feel that they went directly to shock value and cared more about that than giving a damn about what their characters actually look like... Well more for the female characters at least.


But it doesn't work anymore. People aren't really shocked with video games anymore. I really hope that is not what their aim was, because that ship sailed a long time ago (me, personally, I'm more shocked with things I see and hear about in real life instead of video games). But I think you are right. They went for the shock factor, with how overly gory the fatalities were this time around, and the ridiculous outfits. But it just doesn't work. Very few people will be surprised at the fatalities, some fans will be ticked at the terrible handling of their characters and mythos, and the rest will simply not care. I kind of thought they figured this out with MK5. It appeared to me that they realized the shock factor was gone, so they focused on the mythos, the characters, the story, the design, and you could tell. The fatalities even weren't the goriest, but they were certainly flashy, with a heavy eastern/martial arts feel to most of them (moreso in MKD, imo).

As far as shock goes, I am pretty sure Lara Croft's new makeover caused more shock and conversation among the fans of the series than these ladies did. There's some irony right there.


female Kitana Wielder Just look at Kill Bill. Badass and classy.




Katana...
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SwingBatta
02/19/2014 01:50 AM (UTC)
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I can forgive that for the fact that "wielder" was spelled correctly.
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