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04/01/2011 01:38 AM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
thoughts on who-or what-could have controlled him? wow


Probably the Armor.
Powerful Artifacts having wills of their own is something of an established trope.
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04/01/2011 01:42 AM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
thoughts on who-or what-could have controlled him? wow

The most obvious guess would be the armor contains the spirits of his cryomancer ancestors, not unlike Kenshi's sword...but more powerful, it would seem, if it can "guide his blows", which is a fancy way of saying "force him to punch and kick a specific way".
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Spider804
04/01/2011 01:46 AM (UTC)
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And lay the fucking smackdown on some Tarkatan peoples. grin
What can't the Cryomancers do even in death?
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RazorsEdge701
04/01/2011 02:05 AM (UTC)
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What I'm getting at, I guess, is voices in your head might not be the greatest thing to have.

Consider that, other than the fact that they went extinct save for a scant few who escaped to Earth and had kids, leading to Sub-Zero's family and Frost's family, we don't actually know anything about them or what they were like as a people.
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04/01/2011 02:07 AM (UTC)
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True. Voices in your head is never a good thing. Especially if they're the voices of people who died ages ago. XD
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04/01/2011 02:08 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
What I'm getting at, I guess, is voices in your head might not be the greatest thing to have.

Consider that, other than the fact that they went extinct save for a scant few who escaped to Earth and had kids, leading to Sub-Zero's family and Frost's family, we don't actually know anything about them or what they were like as a people.

Dude.

I never even thought about that direction. Maybe there's a good reason they went extinct...

Suddenly,bricks. :3
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MELOMK9
04/01/2011 03:15 AM (UTC)
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Frost is the lamest most pathethic character in the MK world.
I hope if she appears in this game she will be killed forever by Sub zero :).
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Gillbob316
04/01/2011 03:25 AM (UTC)
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At the OP...

Okay seriously, you want to make Frost Phoenix, you want to make Khameleon Stacy X...

Are you really thinking about what would be good for the plot of MK, or were you just reading X-Men alot this week?

Yes, the X-Men have alot of cool characters. Doesn't mean I think we should turn the cast of Mortal Kombat into them.
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Spider804
04/01/2011 03:28 AM (UTC)
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If anything, the Street Fighters should be turned into X-Men.
The Kombatants are fine the way they are.
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04/01/2011 04:52 AM (UTC)
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MELOMK9 Wrote:
Frost is the lamest most pathethic character in the MK world.
I hope if she appears in this game she will be killed forever by Sub zero :).

0/10,go be fat somewhere else.
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BawlsMahoney
04/01/2011 05:04 AM (UTC)
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why would we need another ice tosser? , give me a break a big two thumbs down on this hooker!

REALLY ?!?!

Not sure about the whole ice phoenix thing but i like Frost and would love to see her again in the later entries
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04/01/2011 07:51 AM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
Siroj Wrote:

Personally I'd change her storyline to something like this: Quan Chi learns that the Lin Kuei have the Dragon Medallion in their possession. Knowing the immense power that is locked inside the artifact, he decides to steal it from the clan. However, he knows he doesn't stand a chance against an entire clan of assassins, and starts to device a plan that will allow him to gain possession of the fabled medallion. For his plan to succeed however, he needs a pawn... someone he has complete control over.

Not bad,but I think you're vastly overestimating the Medallion's power. From what we've seen in canon so far,it gives you some nifty stat boosts,but that's about it. I think Sub actually got a bigger power upgrade from his Cryomancer Armor. Meanwhile,Quan Chi is the owner (or at least an aspiring owner) of an Amulet that contains the power of an Elder God inside. Now that's what I call a high roller. The Dragon Medallion is total chump change compared to this. Realistically,he wouldn't waste twenty years of his life on training and brainwashing a girl for something like this when he's got way bigger fish to catch.

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He then infuses her with powers similar to Sub-Zero's (having met the icy warrior before and knowing what he is capable of).

This I'm really iffy on.

We've never seen anyone getting infused with superpowers like this. Besides,Sub's freezing ability really doesn't seem like something you can just learn. It comes from his Cryomancer blood.

..Unless you want to say that Quan Chi somehow learned that this girl also has that blood in her and realized the potential she has,so he decided to invest a bit of his time into her in order to unlock her powers. That might work,I suppose... I imagine cryomancer descendants are very few and far between these days,so he'd probably take real good care of her. Who knows when she might come in handy..?


Who says she has to be a descendant of the Cryomancers? I mean, Quan Chi is a sorceror. He uses magic. Why can't he just, you know, magically give ice powers to someone? And who's talking about spending 20 years of his life? With 'a couple of years' I mean about 3 to 5 or something. And before anyone says: 'it's impossible to make that good a fighter of her in just 5 years max'... his magic aids in speeding up the level she has to attain to make a shot of being accepted in the clan.

And sure, he wants that Elder God amulet, but I'm sure Quan Chi is way too devious (or greedy perhaps?) to just put all his eggs in one basket. Who would pass on the opportunity to boost his own power?
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04/01/2011 07:57 AM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
Who says she has to be a descendant of the Cryomancers?


Well there's Deception for one thing. I mean, yeah it's an alternate reboot universe now, but none of the characters in MK9 got the origin part of their story completely erased and replaced.
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04/01/2011 08:09 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Siroj Wrote:
Who says she has to be a descendant of the Cryomancers?


Well there's Deception for one thing. I mean, yeah it's an alternate reboot universe now, but none of the characters in MK9 got the origin part of their story completely erased and replaced.


Hmm, you got a point. Damn, I swear... NRS should have just done a complete reboot instead of a 'let's go back in time and change a few things'. tongue
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04/01/2011 09:41 AM (UTC)
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I actually like Siroj's idea of Frost being sent by Quan Chi to infiltrate the Lin Kuei to steal the medallion. I also like T-Rex's idea of her becoming an Ice Elemental, but I would like her to retain her human form as well and maybe be able to transform during the game temporarily to the Ice Elemental like Kazuya transforms to Devil in the new Tekken game.
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04/01/2011 09:51 AM (UTC)
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With Sub-Zero in the game, and later on ***he who shall not be named*** also being there, I really DON'T want Frost to be DLC. I never cared much for her. Seeing her in later entries is fine by me, but just keep this game al close to MK1-MKT as possible PLEASE!
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04/01/2011 10:27 AM (UTC)
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Aquarius_D Wrote:
I actually like Siroj's idea of Frost being sent by Quan Chi to infiltrate the Lin Kuei to steal the medallion. I also like T-Rex's idea of her becoming an Ice Elemental, but I would like her to retain her human form as well and maybe be able to transform during the game temporarily to the Ice Elemental like Kazuya transforms to Devil in the new Tekken game.


Quan Chi again?


How many angles does that guy needs to work? We might as well call this the Quan Chi Show. NRS having major hard-ons for the guy doesnot help either.


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04/01/2011 01:19 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:

How many angles does that guy needs to work? We might as well call this the Quan Chi Show. NRS having major hard-ons for the guy doesnot help either.




Kitana & Mileena. Jade & Tanya. Scarlet & Frost. That's what I wanna see. Scarlet could be from Scorpion's clan or maybe his wife. And Frost from Sub-Zero's clan or his sister or something.

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An Ice Phoenix?!?! What does that even mean? That's like making a Golem made out of Bears.

And if she got the Medallion wouldn't a more motiff be a Dragon instead of a Bird?


In chinese mythology, Dragon=Male and Phoenix=Female. Why do you think Lui Kang doesn't turn into a Phoenix?
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04/01/2011 01:50 PM (UTC)
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Kitana & Mileena. Jade & Tanya.

I raise you an "Ashrah & Sareena". There's a lot of potential to be had there.
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Scarletftw
04/01/2011 02:56 PM (UTC)
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Frost & Scarlet > Ashrah & Sareena
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04/01/2011 03:11 PM (UTC)
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why would we need another ice tosser? , give me a break a big two thumbs down on this hooker!

REALLY ?!?!



lol YEEEEES!! please NRS dont bring this cheap sub zero copycat weaksauce back EVER AGAIN!!!! she is weak, unoriginal, fugly and lame.
MK TRILOGY forever!
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04/01/2011 03:14 PM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:
MELOMK9 Wrote:
Frost is the lamest most pathethic character in the MK world.
I hope if she appears in this game she will be killed forever by Sub zero :).

0/10,go be fat somewhere else.


Is my opinion, and I get to express it when I want it.
Grow up and deal with the fact that may people find frost stupid lame and Sub Zero cheap copycat. Her story is laughable and she ooks retarded.
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04/01/2011 03:20 PM (UTC)
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MELOMK9 Wrote:
lol YEEEEES!! please NRS dont bring this cheap sub zero copycat weaksauce back EVER AGAIN!!!! she is weak, unoriginal, fugly and lame. MK TRILOGY forever!

MK Trilogy, the game with what 6 or 7 multicolored ninja that look exactly the same and many specials were also exact duplicates with an effect covering it up.
Edit: I gotta say I'm liking these ideas, especially the cocoon one.
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04/01/2011 03:42 PM (UTC)
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MELOMK9 Wrote:
T-rex Wrote:
MELOMK9 Wrote:
Frost is the lamest most pathethic character in the MK world.
I hope if she appears in this game she will be killed forever by Sub zero :).

0/10,go be fat somewhere else.


Is my opinion, and I get to express it when I want it.
Grow up and deal with the fact that may people find frost stupid lame and Sub Zero cheap copycat. Her story is laughable and she ooks retarded.


Frost as Ice Phoenix???
Frost rivalry with Scarlet???
Frost as Ice Elemental???
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