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I never said I wanted her to be good, that was not my intentions of what I was trying to get out. If you make her stay evil, I don't want to see the delusional "I want the grandmaster title." There's more they could do with her rather than making her some greedy little freak who wants the medallion for herself. Why go after the same thing that almost got you killed? That would be too stupid for her to do.

And then, instead of doing that, they made her go after Sub-Zero... But Sub-Zero has too much heart to kill her so he freezes her. What's going to happen? Is she going to come out of the tomb the same thing and go after Sub-Zero once again and having him either freeze her once more or finally having the balls to kill her? That's a tiresome, repetitive story and I don't want to see that. I want her to do something more.

Hell, I've written a fan fic of her being a neutral character, not really siding with Sub-Zero, but not going after him. Even though I staggered a bit here and there, gonna re-write it and actually going to make comic strips of it. Still, the direction I have her going is completely different. Jerrod's Frost fan fic was wonderfully told, and she teams up with Noob Saibot. I have her teaming with Scorpion and at another part, Mileena.

I don't want to see this character's story get ruined like they did in Deception. Repetitive.

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An Ice Phoenix?!?! What does that even mean? That's like making a Golem made out of Bears.

And if she got the Medallion wouldn't a more motiff be a Dragon instead of a Bird?

He's referring to the X-Men character "Phoenix".

DAMMIT YOU GUYS

I've been working on this idea since forever!

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Have you guys ever played Resident Evil:Code Veronica? Here's the gist - Alexia Ashford,the granddaughter of one of the three founders of Umbrella,develops a new strain of the T-Virus called T-Veronica. It has the potential to produce extremely powerful BOWs,but there is an unfortunate complication. The mutation is so fast and so severe that the subject's body can't handle it,and he invariably dies before the transformation is fully complete. However,Alexia discovers a way around it. She injects herself with T-Veronica and puts herself into a cryogenic sleep at Umbrella's Arctic facility. While her body's vital processes are slowed down to a crawl,the virus can work its magic. And once twenty or so years pass,she awakens to her new body - a ludicrously powerful mutant that has powers of pyrokinesis (!) and other ridiculous shit.

Which brings me to Frost.

The shell of ice she's encased in?

It's a cocoon.

Because her body couldn't handle the surge of power produced by the Medallion,she went into a suspended animation state,until she can slowly adapt to its power. And once the metamorphosis is complete,she will hatch.

Except she's not going to be same Frost we know. No,she's going to be something very different...

What do I mean by that?

A fucking ice elemental.

Go apeshit. Have her entire body encased in an armor of ice. When she attacks you,she doesn't even need to form the Kori weapons - her entire arms turn into gigantic fucking ice scythes,Glacius-style:



She shouldn't even be walking. Have her slide all over the place on the ice she creates under her feet.

Sub's old X-Ray launcher,the one that had him create a giant fucking icicle under you? Make that her regular special move.

Go completely fucking nuts. Make her a totally ridiculous super-secret SNK Boss.




When she awakens,she goes completely berserk,like in MK:Unchained,and starts murdering the Lin Kuei left and right. Sub is away from the clan at the time.

The only thing standing between the rampaging ice elemental and the Lin Kuei's complete destruction is Sareena.

When Sub-Zero went away,he trusted Sareena with the safety of his clan. And she is willing to die to not betray that trust.

The two fight in the most ludicrously awesome fight scene imaginable.

That's when Sub-Zero returns to the clan. Stunned by the carnage,he hurries to the Hall of the Ancients or whatever (the inner sanctum with the Cryomancer mummies and the altar where Frost was laid to rest).

There are two possible outcomes from this point on.

ONE - Sareena is victorious. Frost lies shattered on the floor,gone for good this time. But the fight took every ounce of her strength,and she was forced to unleash her demonic nature. And once Sub-Zero arrives on the scene,he finally sees her true form,something that she so desperately tried to hide from him all this time. He knows it's still the same Sareena,but just for a second,he is taken aback by what he sees. But that one moment of hesitation is all it takes. For a second,Sareena sees the fear in his eyes,and it's completely devastating to her...

Sareena: You're terrified of what I've become,Kuai Liang... No,of what I've always been...

Sub-Zero tries to convince her that she's wrong,but she doesn't listen. She flees,and soon afterwards,she runs into Quan Chi. That's when her Armageddon bio happens. Quan Chi knows exactly what happened just now. And while she's at her most vulnerable,he strikes. She is a demon,he,says,an unholy abomination from the depths of the Netherrealm. That's what she's always been,and,no matter how much she tried to lie to herself,this is what her true nature will always be. And her rightful place is at his side...

He breaks her psychologically. Completely helpless,she gives in and becomes Quan Chi's slave once again.

Cue the "rescue Sareena" arc.

HAVE AN EXAM NOW,WILL ADD MORE LATER

Everyone,sorry for the somewhat sloppy writing,lol. But I need to get this out of my system now,or I'll go insane.

Frost may be the most popular gal requested at TMK, but if I remember correctly the poll done here had Tanya and Sareena gunning for top-level DLC after Kenshi and Rain.

The TC also wanted a Phoenix tattoo on Frost. The character Phoenix is also heavily based in the Mythological Phoenix.

It'd be different if he said "I want Frost to be an interdimensional omnipotent being like Jean Grey/Phoenix" instead.

Frost >Tanya any day of the year.

Frost is nowhere near the same level as Phoenix.
In MKDA she couldn't even control her powers until Subbie taught her how, and when she greedily stole the Dragon Medallion, she couldn't control that either hence why she froze herself.

She's not really that smart a girl, and not nearly as powerful as Phoenix at all.

I always thought the Dragon Medallion freezing herself in a big chunk of ice should've been a "cocoon" that led to a power upgrade too, but I never really put the thought into it of her mutating into an elemental. That would actually be a pretty awesome idea and definitely separate her further from people just thinking she's Girl Sub-Zero.

It is a huge shame Unchained/Armageddon missed the boat on giving her a redesign after hatching. And a rivalry between her and Sareena would indeed have been perfect for the both of them.

It's also a shame they can't do shit like this now because of this new timeline. Now we have to wait at least a whole 'nother game or two to see Sub-Zero in position again to have the Dragon Medallion and train a student, if that ever even happens now because things are different in this universe and Subbie probably won't even go down the same path.

More likely they'll introduce Frost in the next game as having a completely different story. She'll be independant/self-taught and not have a clear goal like "get the Dragon Medallion" was or someone else like Sektor or Noob will train her to be an evil anti-Sub-Zero, or Smoke will take over the clan this time and she'll have the Obi-Wan/Anakin relationship with him instead of with Subbie.

Fucking reboots...see, THIS is the entire reason I'm mad at MK9. The old timeline wasn't actually done yet! Deception and Armageddon were too open-ended, the old directions still had places to go.

They could still do this, and get rid of a certain character you hate in one fell swoop... I already suggested it, but T-rex said it was beyond the scope of the Dragon Medallion. Now he's saying he wants essentially what I said, but for Frost? I'm a bit confused

Well I wouldn't have said it's beyond the medallion's scope.

The problem is, if Sub-Zero were an elemental monster made out of or covered in thick ice spikes, he wouldn't look much like Sub-Zero anymore and the whole reason we're mad at...that other thing...is he doesn't look like Sub-Zero anymore. The dude needs skin.

But Frost is not a fan favorite and series mascot who's existed for twenty years whose appearance is famous and considered a "classic", she'll never be the only character from MK to appear in the GameFAQs "best character ever" yearly poll like Subbie repeatedly is. So you can make changes to her design, like turning her into a spiky elemental, without upsetting anyone. Adding radical things like this to her can make her underdeveloped character richer, rather than poorer. Plus it would match her hair which is already blue and spiky.
In other words, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I suggested that before in the CSZ thread:



I have no time to go into great detail,but there are logistical problems with this,because we've never,ever seen the cyberization process reversed. Frost's case would be different.

Second of all,if I were in charge of the story,I'd give this twist to Frost. Her metamorphosis,shortly followed by her death,would decisively wrap up her character arc AND advance the stories of both Sub and Sareena. Everybody wins.

tl;dr I love Sub-Zero,but that doesn't mean I want him to hog all of the delicious plot twists that could potentially benefit less developed characters.

I wouldn't suggest that Subz turning into an Ice Elemental/God should be a *permanent* change- such increases in power rarely are. But it would offer them a fairly easy out with the whole CSZ thing, as, to me anyway, it's plausible that becoming a higher being would reverse the cyberization. It would then just be a matter of removing his god-like powers, conveniently leaving him much like he was at the start of MK9

It would be cool to see Frost assume a more prominent role, though.
I'm just not sure if "Ice Phoenix" is what I had in mind. I love ice, and I LOVE Phoenix, but... If anyone's gonna be an Ice Phoenix, it should be Jean Grey and Bobby Drake's lovechild

The most requested female, huh?

COOL!! cuz I seriously want her in.

Looks like Rain will be DLC for sure...

Well, if we want to place Frost in the game during the MK1-3 storyline, she hasn't touched the medallion yet... so no enhanced powers for her.

Personally I'd change her storyline to something like this: Quan Chi learns that the Lin Kuei have the Dragon Medallion in their possession. Knowing the immense power that is locked inside the artifact, he decides to steal it from the clan. However, he knows he doesn't stand a chance against an entire clan of assassins, and starts to device a plan that will allow him to gain possession of the fabled medallion. For his plan to succeed however, he needs a pawn... someone he has complete control over.

He abducts a girl (plus kills her family) and wipes clean her memories of her past, which allow him to put in place a powerful mindcontrol spell. He then infuses her with powers similar to Sub-Zero's (having met the icy warrior before and knowing what he is capable of). Quan Chi then spends a few years training the girl, and when he finally thinks she's ready for her task, sends her to the Lin Kuei to infiltrate.

Her mission is simple. Get accepted into the clan, learn their secrets and steal the medallion... at any cost.

After the Grand Master decided to 'upgrade' his warriors to cyborgs, the clan is divided in 2 parties. During the chaos that ensues, Frost sees the perfect opportunity. She manages to surprise and defeat the guards and finally has the medallion in her possession. Quan Chi will be most pleased.

... but wait. Something's happening. The power of the medallion tears away at her mind... it shatters the mindcontrol spell...

Not sure what happens then. Does she betray Quan Chi and decide to make a run for it with the medallion as her own (which finally consumes her entirely)? Does she drop the medallion, not knowing who she really is anymore and escape the Lin Kuei base? Is she captured and upgraded like many of the clan?

There's quite a few options there.

Dir...

I think Scarletftw is noobsmoke_mk.

Me too.
Same totally random topics with huge pictures in the first post.

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OPTION 2 - Sub-Zero arrives just in time to see Sareena get impaled by a giant icicle. He goes berserk and lunges at Frost. She might be an ice elemental,but he's a cryomancer armor-powered Master of Cold who taught her everything she knows. And he's really,really fucking pissed off. What good are her powers if she hasn't learned how to fully harness them..? Besides,self-control was never Frost's strong suit.

One awesome fight sequence later,she goes down,hard. She barely gets up,only to mock her former master.

Frost: What's the matter,Sifu? Don't have the balls to finish me off..? Come on,kill me! Because if you spare me,I will keep coming back... And every time,I'll take more and more from you,because you aren't strong enough to defend what's yours! A gutless old man like you doesn't deserve to be the leader of the Lin Kuei!

And Sub-Zero... Just quietly bows to her,like a master to an apprentice after a training session. Just like old times...


And then he fucking shatters her all over the Sanctum.

This was the second and final time Kuai Liang has lost his apprentice. Frost was his greatest mistake and his greatest failure,one that he'll never be able to forget. You can't run from the ghosts of your past forever;sooner or later they'll have to be put to rest. Sub-Zero knows this better than anybody. This time,he has no regrets.

He rushes over to Sareena. If she was a human,she'd be dead by now,but she's still alive and barely conscious.

You know,I always kinda thought that Sareena,considering her Netherrealm origin and that fiery 5-star kick she has,would have some sort of association with the fire element. So if Sub-Zero were to try to at least stop the bleeding the same way he did it for Kenshi - by freezing the wound - it would only cause her more pain.

So he's helpless.

Okay,now bear with me for this next part.

Let's say he tries to find someone who can help her. Raiden is Dark at the moment,so he's of no help. He has no one to really turn to. So in desperation,he decides to seek out Quan Chi,because if anyone would be able to bring her back,it's her former lord and master,who,for all we know,probably created her human form in the first place. The price he'd name for this doesn't even matter to Sub at this point.

Of course,Sareena is terrified to even think of Quan Chi. She begs Sub-Zero not to go to him,but he's willing to do anything to save her...





Wow,this has almost turned into a fanfic halfway through,lol.

Tear it apart.


Not bad,but I think you're vastly overestimating the Medallion's power. From what we've seen in canon so far,it gives you some nifty stat boosts,but that's about it. I think Sub actually got a bigger power upgrade from his Cryomancer Armor. Meanwhile,Quan Chi is the owner (or at least an aspiring owner) of an Amulet that contains the power of an Elder God inside. Now that's what I call a high roller. The Dragon Medallion is total chump change compared to this. Realistically,he wouldn't waste twenty years of his life on training and brainwashing a girl for something like this when he's got way bigger fish to catch.


This I'm really iffy on.

We've never seen anyone getting infused with superpowers like this. Besides,Sub's freezing ability really doesn't seem like something you can just learn. It comes from his Cryomancer blood.

..Unless you want to say that Quan Chi somehow learned that this girl also has that blood in her and realized the potential she has,so he decided to invest a bit of his time into her in order to unlock her powers. That might work,I suppose... I imagine cryomancer descendants are very few and far between these days,so he'd probably take real good care of her. Who knows when she might come in handy..?

Y'know, while we're talking about "I always thought he got a bigger upgrade from the Cryomancer armor", I just want to throw this out there, a loose end from Deception that I felt really could have gone somewhere and we never got to see:

"As Sub-Zero began his attack, he felt his armor speak to him. It guided and strengthened each blow as he broke their limbs and crushed their skulls."

Voices in his head and the hind of mind/body control.

Just sayin'.

thoughts on who-or what-could have controlled him?

He's being guided by the voices of his ancestors,much like Kenshi's sword guides him? Could be cool.

I think that was meant to be a little teaser. Like,despite all of the power he's received from the armor,its true potential is still something that's shrouded in mystery.

Which is why I'm not that opposed to the idea of Sub taking his powers to a whole another level and becoming something... more. I don't want to say ice god,but seriously,after the fucking Cryomancer Armor and the Dragon Medallion +5 to ass-kicking,only sky is the limit.

Besides,if they ever got to make a whole new generation of the MK sage,50 years after the events of Armageddon or something,that'll give Sub a perfectly legit excuse to survive half a century and not really age all that much. Although I gotta admit,the thought of a visibly old,but still tremendously badass and grizzled Lin Kuei Patriarch Sub-Zero (awesome ponytail is optional) makes me smile.