Li-Mei, Ashrah or Delia!!
Li-Mei, Ashrah or Delia!!
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In Jade's ending the Mysterious Woman looks a lot like Li-Mei, but she also kind of resembles Ashrah's alternate costume..
But what really makes me think it might be Ashrah is the Voice-over description of the Mysterious Woman:
V/O - She (Jade) slipped into a dream like state and found herself walking in an unknown realm, as she explored her surroundings shifted and changed. Jade approached alone figure who stood in the distance, a shimmering woman. She did not reveal her name, but spoke with an air of regal authority. Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
Lets start with unknown realm: Li-Mei is an Outworlder, and Jade has lived in Outworld most of her life so it wouldn't be unknown to her. But Ashrah is from Nether Realm, where Jade has never been..
The term REGAL is used to describe Ashrah in her official Bio. Although she's never been described as "a shimmering woman" her weapon Kriss is supposed to emit a heavenly/ethereal light..
Also Li-Mei is not a sorcerer, therefore it would be difficult if not impossible for her to possess Jade. But as a former demon, possession is probably well within Ashrah's capabilities.
However, it unlikely that Li-Mei or Ashrah believe Shao Khan's death needs to be re-imagined. Li-Mei's people are oppressed by Shao Khan, so she'd be happy to see him gone. Ashrah is attempting to rid the realms of evil, so she'd also be happy to see the back of Shao Khan. But I could be wrong about that..
There's still another possibility though. Delia is from Edenia, which Jade has no memory of - so it's effectively unknown to her.. Delia is a powerful sorcerer and psychic, so she would definitely be able to possess Jade's helpless, battle fatigued body. Although she's aligned with good and would probably be happy to see Shao Khan gone, it's possible she believes that events in Armageddon must take place. Albeit without Daegon becoming corrupted, by awaking early..
Another possibility is simply that an as yet unknown entity, who is aligned with evil, has possessed Jade for it's own purposes..
But what really makes me think it might be Ashrah is the Voice-over description of the Mysterious Woman:
V/O - She (Jade) slipped into a dream like state and found herself walking in an unknown realm, as she explored her surroundings shifted and changed. Jade approached alone figure who stood in the distance, a shimmering woman. She did not reveal her name, but spoke with an air of regal authority. Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
Lets start with unknown realm: Li-Mei is an Outworlder, and Jade has lived in Outworld most of her life so it wouldn't be unknown to her. But Ashrah is from Nether Realm, where Jade has never been..
The term REGAL is used to describe Ashrah in her official Bio. Although she's never been described as "a shimmering woman" her weapon Kriss is supposed to emit a heavenly/ethereal light..
Also Li-Mei is not a sorcerer, therefore it would be difficult if not impossible for her to possess Jade. But as a former demon, possession is probably well within Ashrah's capabilities.
However, it unlikely that Li-Mei or Ashrah believe Shao Khan's death needs to be re-imagined. Li-Mei's people are oppressed by Shao Khan, so she'd be happy to see him gone. Ashrah is attempting to rid the realms of evil, so she'd also be happy to see the back of Shao Khan. But I could be wrong about that..
There's still another possibility though. Delia is from Edenia, which Jade has no memory of - so it's effectively unknown to her.. Delia is a powerful sorcerer and psychic, so she would definitely be able to possess Jade's helpless, battle fatigued body. Although she's aligned with good and would probably be happy to see Shao Khan gone, it's possible she believes that events in Armageddon must take place. Albeit without Daegon becoming corrupted, by awaking early..
Another possibility is simply that an as yet unknown entity, who is aligned with evil, has possessed Jade for it's own purposes..
My thoughts on the mysterious woman:
I find her to be some sort of manifestation of the One Being. Why? (See Bold text)
If I recall, the One Being was described to be the shatter consciousness of the realms, therefore, a piece of it is in the realms and everything in it, allowing to it to watch without acting.
And for Kahn's death, Kahn's goal is to merge all the realms into Outworld. Even without the Kamidogu, I still think it'd be possible if Kahn is alive, since he'll take the prize and use it to merge them all.
I find her to be some sort of manifestation of the One Being. Why? (See Bold text)
If I recall, the One Being was described to be the shatter consciousness of the realms, therefore, a piece of it is in the realms and everything in it, allowing to it to watch without acting.
DJMikey80 Wrote:
Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
And for Kahn's death, Kahn's goal is to merge all the realms into Outworld. Even without the Kamidogu, I still think it'd be possible if Kahn is alive, since he'll take the prize and use it to merge them all.
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daryui Wrote:
My thoughts on the mysterious woman:
I find her to be some sort of manifestation of the One Being. Why? (See Bold text)
If I recall, the One Being was described to be the shatter consciousness of the realms, therefore, a piece of it is in the realms and everything in it, allowing to it to watch without acting.
Cool!!
My thoughts on the mysterious woman:
I find her to be some sort of manifestation of the One Being. Why? (See Bold text)
If I recall, the One Being was described to be the shatter consciousness of the realms, therefore, a piece of it is in the realms and everything in it, allowing to it to watch without acting.
DJMikey80 Wrote:
Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
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And for Kahn's death, Kahn's goal is to merge all the realms into Outworld. Even without the Kamidogu, I still think it'd be possible if Kahn is alive, since he'll take the prize and use it to merge them all.
Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
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And for Kahn's death, Kahn's goal is to merge all the realms into Outworld. Even without the Kamidogu, I still think it'd be possible if Kahn is alive, since he'll take the prize and use it to merge them all.
Cool!!
So now there's MORE characters being assumed about who this character is?
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
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I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
No, it can only be a whole new character.
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I think it's gonna turn out to be a new character too. She doesn't look anything like any currently existing characters to me and the Crystal Realm where Jade encounters her is clearly not any of the six realms we know.
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DJMikey80 Wrote:
In Jade's ending the Mysterious Woman looks a lot like Li-Mei, but she also kind of resembles Ashrah's alternate costume..
But what really makes me think it might be Ashrah is the Voice-over description of the Mysterious Woman:
V/O - She (Jade) slipped into a dream like state and found herself walking in an unknown realm, as she explored her surroundings shifted and changed. Jade approached alone figure who stood in the distance, a shimmering woman. She did not reveal her name, but spoke with an air of regal authority. Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
Lets start with unknown realm: Li-Mei is an Outworlder, and Jade has lived in Outworld most of her life so it wouldn't be unknown to her. But Ashrah is from Nether Realm, where Jade has never been..
The term REGAL is used to describe Ashrah in her official Bio. Although she's never been described as "a shimmering woman" her weapon Kriss is supposed to emit a heavenly/ethereal light..
Also Li-Mei is not a sorcerer, therefore it would be difficult if not impossible for her to possess Jade. But as a former demon, possession is probably well within Ashrah's capabilities.
However, it unlikely that Li-Mei or Ashrah believe Shao Khan's death needs to be re-imagined. Li-Mei's people are oppressed by Shao Khan, so she'd be happy to see him gone. Ashrah is attempting to rid the realms of evil, so she'd also be happy to see the back of Shao Khan. But I could be wrong about that..
There's still another possibility though. Delia is from Edenia, which Jade has no memory of - so it's effectively unknown to her.. Delia is a powerful sorcerer and psychic, so she would definitely be able to possess Jade's helpless, battle fatigued body. Although she's aligned with good and would probably be happy to see Shao Khan gone, it's possible she believes that events in Armageddon must take place. Albeit without Daegon becoming corrupted, by awaking early..
Another possibility is simply that an as yet unknown entity, who is aligned with evil, has possessed Jade for it's own purposes..
In Jade's ending the Mysterious Woman looks a lot like Li-Mei, but she also kind of resembles Ashrah's alternate costume..
But what really makes me think it might be Ashrah is the Voice-over description of the Mysterious Woman:
V/O - She (Jade) slipped into a dream like state and found herself walking in an unknown realm, as she explored her surroundings shifted and changed. Jade approached alone figure who stood in the distance, a shimmering woman. She did not reveal her name, but spoke with an air of regal authority. Through the minds of countless mortals the woman had be watching events, as they unfolded over the centuries. She informed Jade that Shao Khan's death was an outcome which must be re-imagined. Jade was defenceless as the woman possessed her body and emerged in the waking world..
Lets start with unknown realm: Li-Mei is an Outworlder, and Jade has lived in Outworld most of her life so it wouldn't be unknown to her. But Ashrah is from Nether Realm, where Jade has never been..
The term REGAL is used to describe Ashrah in her official Bio. Although she's never been described as "a shimmering woman" her weapon Kriss is supposed to emit a heavenly/ethereal light..
Also Li-Mei is not a sorcerer, therefore it would be difficult if not impossible for her to possess Jade. But as a former demon, possession is probably well within Ashrah's capabilities.
However, it unlikely that Li-Mei or Ashrah believe Shao Khan's death needs to be re-imagined. Li-Mei's people are oppressed by Shao Khan, so she'd be happy to see him gone. Ashrah is attempting to rid the realms of evil, so she'd also be happy to see the back of Shao Khan. But I could be wrong about that..
There's still another possibility though. Delia is from Edenia, which Jade has no memory of - so it's effectively unknown to her.. Delia is a powerful sorcerer and psychic, so she would definitely be able to possess Jade's helpless, battle fatigued body. Although she's aligned with good and would probably be happy to see Shao Khan gone, it's possible she believes that events in Armageddon must take place. Albeit without Daegon becoming corrupted, by awaking early..
Another possibility is simply that an as yet unknown entity, who is aligned with evil, has possessed Jade for it's own purposes..
I've actually though some more about this and while I stand be my reasoning, that the mysterious woman could potentially be Ashrah or Delia and is definitely not Li-Mei. It occurred to me She (Jade) slipped into a dream like state and found herself walking in an unknown realm, as she explored her surroundings shifted and changed is exactly what you'd expect a description of Chaosrealm to sound like.
So while I still think it could be Ashrah or Delia, I'm excited about the possibility of an as yet unknown entity. Who might be a disciple of Havik.. That would be pretty cool!!
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
Saying out right that it's a whole new character is too presumptious. Mortal Kombat's story is fantasy driven, like any fantasy based work there are rules which must be adhered to. But because it's a work of fantasy any number of outcomes can be available, simply because almost anything is possible..
Icebaby Wrote:
So now there's MORE characters being assumed about who this character is?
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
So now there's MORE characters being assumed about who this character is?
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
Why wouldn't they butcher 3 characters to turn them into this mysterious woman.
They already butchered Mileena, by changing her from a calculating, ruthless, ambitious, power-hungry young woman. Who's driving force was jealousy. Now she's a childish, giggly, VAG with teeth. Dressed in little more that some band aids and a cork: she's about 3 Mai Tai's away from asking, where the nearest stripper pole is!!
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DJMikey80 Wrote:
is exactly what you'd expect a description of Chaosrealm to sound like.
is exactly what you'd expect a description of Chaosrealm to sound like.
The pictures don't look anything like Chaosrealm. Chaosrealm is not made of crystals.
DJMikey80 Wrote:
Saying out right that it's a whole new character is too presumptious. Mortal Kombat's story is fantasy driven, like any fantasy based work there are rules which must be adhered to. But because it's a work of fantasy any number of outcomes can be available, simply because almost anything is possible..
Why wouldn't they butcher 3 characters to turn them into this mysterious woman.
They already butchered Mileena, by changing her from a calculating, ruthless, ambitious, power-hungry young woman. Who's driving force was jealousy. Now she's a childish, giggly, VAG with teeth. Dressed in little more that some band aids and a cork: she's about 3 Mai Tai's away from asking, where the nearest stripper pole is!!
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
Saying out right that it's a whole new character is too presumptious. Mortal Kombat's story is fantasy driven, like any fantasy based work there are rules which must be adhered to. But because it's a work of fantasy any number of outcomes can be available, simply because almost anything is possible..
Icebaby Wrote:
So now there's MORE characters being assumed about who this character is?
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
So now there's MORE characters being assumed about who this character is?
Look, they wouldn't butcher three characters in the series to be this woman who appears in Jade's ending.
Ashrah is a demon from the Nethrrealm who is freeing herself from it. She is also a demon hunter.
Li Mei is a student of Bo Rai' Cho who battles alongside of him.
Why either of these two would suddenly lose their original story to become a mysterious being in Jade's ending is beyond me.
The whole Delia issue was brought up because many claimed that the mysterious woman is wearing a ditched concept for Delia's outfit. Some said that Delia was this woman because of that reasoning... which I might add, has to be one of the silliest reasonings to be brought up.
Neither of these three characters are her becuase A.) Why would they look completely different than what they looked in previous games. B.) All three of the characters had NEVER encountered Jade previously. C.) Obvious rumor is obvious.
Why wouldn't they butcher 3 characters to turn them into this mysterious woman.
They already butchered Mileena, by changing her from a calculating, ruthless, ambitious, power-hungry young woman. Who's driving force was jealousy. Now she's a childish, giggly, VAG with teeth. Dressed in little more that some band aids and a cork: she's about 3 Mai Tai's away from asking, where the nearest stripper pole is!!
Oh yeah, I can totally see where Mileena is a stripper...
/sarcasm.
Either you don't know too much about Mileena's character, or you really don't know Mileena's character. Ever noticed that when she was introduced in the story, she was shown a little bit after she was created by Shang Tsung and Kahn? And what are you when you're just born. An infant! Granted that Mileena is supposed to be somewhat near the same age as Kitana, in this story, however, they show us that she was just created, probably didn't have enough time to educate her well enough to what she was during past games before this. I don't know, but I can certainly say that she wasn't who she was in Deception in this game... There's so many perfect explanations on why that is.
They never butchered her, this is who Mileena is. She didn't show that much in Deception, but I can remember herself acting a little skanky in her fatalities. And the amount of sex appeal has been there since Deception too, as we all know that she's been in Playboy.
But you're saying that, because in your opinion, they butchered one character, it's perfectly fine to butcher more just to make sense of the situation? I don't get it, you're telling me that you're comfortable letting Ashrah, Li Mei, or Delia have a brand new look and story because one person thought that this mysterious woman could be one of those three? That's really... stupid. I know several users here would have heart attacks just thinking about if the issue could be true.
All three characters have been in the series long enough to where they're known characters, I know for a fact that the creators wouldn't just butcher one character to make them appear as a different character. All who have never seen or talk to Jade previously, nor have magical abilities to possess people, despite that Ashrah has her voodoo doll, but that's an entirely different kind of magic.
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Icebaby Wrote:
All three characters have been in the series long enough to where they're known characters, I know for a fact that the creators wouldn't just butcher one character to make them appear as a different character. All who have never seen or talk to Jade previously, nor have magical abilities to possess people, despite that Ashrah has her voodoo doll, but that's an entirely different kind of magic.
All three characters have been in the series long enough to where they're known characters, I know for a fact that the creators wouldn't just butcher one character to make them appear as a different character. All who have never seen or talk to Jade previously, nor have magical abilities to possess people, despite that Ashrah has her voodoo doll, but that's an entirely different kind of magic.
Thank you.
Jesus Christ, every single time I see a "who's the chick in Jade's ending?" thread it's the same problem: it's like people only watched the ending once, out of the corner of their eye, and now feel like they have to make whatever wild guess comes off the top of their fuckin' heads instead of stopping to really look at the damn pictures and think about things.
The crystal woman doesn't look anything like ANY currently existing character, her realm doesn't look like any existing realm, and Li Mei and Ashrah don't even have the power to enter anyone's coma-dreams and take over their bodies, not to mention neither one would know a damn thing about Shao Kahn's death or wanting to change the past/future. Li Mei is a goddamn kung fu student from a little Outworld village, Ashrah is a Quan Chi Slavegirl who finds a magic sword that turns her into a demon/vampire slayer, and Delia is a FIRE-wizard who wears a blindfold.
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You are interpreting wrong. The message was just a warning that the destruction of Kahn will not result in Raiden expect but something actually worse than Original.
Jade will not come back possessed.
Jade will not come back possessed.
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DJMikey80 Wrote:
Saying out right that it's a whole new character is too presumptious. Mortal Kombat's story is fantasy driven, like any fantasy based work there are rules which must be adhered to. But because it's a work of fantasy any number of outcomes can be available, simply because almost anything is possible..
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
I don't think it is either of those women. I don't think it is any of the previous characters, but a whole new character. It wouldn't make sense if it was Li Mei, Ashrah or Delia. Li Mei and Ashrah don't have the power to do something like that and they have no reason to want Shao Kahn to stay alive, they have other things on their mind. Delia might have the power, but she wants Armageddon to be prevented as well, so why would she possess Jade to try and resurrect Shao Kahn? It makes absolutely no sense!
No, it can only be a whole new character.
Saying out right that it's a whole new character is too presumptious. Mortal Kombat's story is fantasy driven, like any fantasy based work there are rules which must be adhered to. But because it's a work of fantasy any number of outcomes can be available, simply because almost anything is possible..
First you say fantasy has rules and then you say anything is possible. How am I supposed to take you seriously now? XD
NRS can make up their own rules and they have. They don't need to follow a certain set of rules made by others, they make up their own for their own game.
Li Mei doesn't deal with magic other than the power that all the warriors have to empower her fighting skills, like Sonya can shoot out rings using her Chi and such. That's the rules set for her by the MK team.
Ashrah is a demon who worked for Quan Chi as part of the Sisterhood of the Shadow along with Sareena, Jataaka and Kia, until she found the kriss sword which gave her a chance of "redemption" by feeding the sword the blood/souls of evil beings. In return she is given light powers. However, she has nothing to do with Jade, Shao Kahn or eithers destiny, her mission is quite clear and if anything, she would want Shao Kahn dead rather than preserving his life. Also, it has never been stated anywhere that she is able to possess others or be in an unknown crystallic realm.
Delia is a sorceress of fire and a seer, mother of Taven and Daegon and wife of Argus. Both Delia and Argus was killed by Daegon a long time before this MK takes place, so her spirit is most likely in the heavens. Why would she want to possess Jade in order to preserve Shao Kahn's life? She of all people would want to prevent the Armageddon the most as she was the one who got the vision of it. Also, the woman in Jade's ending looks nothing like Delia, there is nothing about her that says "fire sorceress", she doesn't look like Delia at all, not even by small indications.
Khameleon has also been theorized to be the woman in Jade's ending, but that just makes alot less sense. That would mean Khameleon have a totally new purpose in this timeline and not even Mileena has been changed THAT much!
My bet is and will always be that she is a whole new character until NRS themselves in some way tells us something different, because there are absolutely no proof that she can be any of the already existing characters.
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
DJMikey80 Wrote:
Was never told that she intends to preserve Shao Kahn's life only that the change of events as occurred will probably trigger a worse outcome. As the conquest of Reality by Shinnok or Kamidogus gather the Dragon King.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Delia is a sorceress of fire and a seer, mother of Taven and Daegon and wife of Argus. Both Delia and Argus was killed by Daegon a long time before this MK takes place, so her spirit is most likely in the heavens. Why would she want to possess Jade in order to preserve Shao Kahn's life? She of all people would want to prevent the Armageddon the most as she was the one who got the vision of it. Also, the woman in Jade's ending looks nothing like Delia, there is nothing about her that says "fire sorceress", she doesn't look like Delia at all, not even by small indications.
Delia is a sorceress of fire and a seer, mother of Taven and Daegon and wife of Argus. Both Delia and Argus was killed by Daegon a long time before this MK takes place, so her spirit is most likely in the heavens. Why would she want to possess Jade in order to preserve Shao Kahn's life? She of all people would want to prevent the Armageddon the most as she was the one who got the vision of it. Also, the woman in Jade's ending looks nothing like Delia, there is nothing about her that says "fire sorceress", she doesn't look like Delia at all, not even by small indications.
Was never told that she intends to preserve Shao Kahn's life only that the change of events as occurred will probably trigger a worse outcome. As the conquest of Reality by Shinnok or Kamidogus gather the Dragon King.
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From Jade's ending:
"She informed Jade that Shao Kahn's death was an outcome that must be re-imagined."
To me this sounds like the woman does not want Shao Kahn dead.
"She informed Jade that Shao Kahn's death was an outcome that must be re-imagined."
To me this sounds like the woman does not want Shao Kahn dead.
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The phrase is out of context. The whole game is about Raiden trying to prevent Armageddon, in the end his Amulet is normal in the sense that it prevented the event that catalyzed his message, so Shao Khan dies. If not ignore this phrase simply prevents the destruction of Kahn was not the interpretation we have been led to believe. After all it just says that the death of Shao Kahn must be re-imagined.
I interpret this as a "continue". The Arc has not been completed yet.And not to introduce a new character or possessed Jade again.
I interpret this as a "continue". The Arc has not been completed yet.And not to introduce a new character or possessed Jade again.
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Odemuitascastas Wrote:
The phrase is out of context. The whole game is about Raiden trying to prevent Armageddon, in the end his Amulet is normal in the sense that it prevented the event that catalyzed his message, so Shao Khan dies. If not ignore this phrase simply prevents the destruction of Kahn was not the interpretation we have been led to believe. After all it just says that the death of Shao Kahn must be re-imagined.
I interpret this as a "continue". The Arc has not been completed yet.And not to introduce a new character or possessed Jade again.
The phrase is out of context. The whole game is about Raiden trying to prevent Armageddon, in the end his Amulet is normal in the sense that it prevented the event that catalyzed his message, so Shao Khan dies. If not ignore this phrase simply prevents the destruction of Kahn was not the interpretation we have been led to believe. After all it just says that the death of Shao Kahn must be re-imagined.
I interpret this as a "continue". The Arc has not been completed yet.And not to introduce a new character or possessed Jade again.
It is normally known that the Arcade endings represent a what-if scenario, not what happens in the canon storyline. The context in those endings are supposed to be JUST for those endings, not for what is going to happen in the canon storyline. Story Mode tells the canon storyline. Story Mode and the Arcade endings are NOT supposed to be mixed together. In the Story Mode, the canon storyline, the woman in Jade's ending does not exist!
We might see her in the next game in one form or another, but Jade's ending isn't part of the canon, so of course she won't come back possessed like that, unless NRS incorporates it into the canon storyline.
So that phrase is not supposed to be interpreted in context of what happens in Story Mode, ONLY in what happens in Jade's own ending.
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Quoted from Icebaby:
All three characters have been in the series long enough to where they're known characters, I know for a fact that the creators wouldn't just butcher one character to make them appear as a different character. All who have never seen or talk to Jade previously, nor have magical abilities to possess people, despite that Ashrah has her voodoo doll, but that's an entirely different kind of magic.
All three characters have been in the series long enough to where they're known characters, I know for a fact that the creators wouldn't just butcher one character to make them appear as a different character. All who have never seen or talk to Jade previously, nor have magical abilities to possess people, despite that Ashrah has her voodoo doll, but that's an entirely different kind of magic.
I don't know about that fact. I can definitely think of one character the creators butchered to make them appear as a different character. I'm looking at you Cyber Subz.
Anyway, I guess I will be on the bandwagon that says this definitely can be a character who has already appeared. It's also logical that it could be a new character as well though.
For some reason the picture does remind me of Li Mei. Which coincidentally is the one I think it could be most likely out of those three. Why? For the simple fact that she lives in Outworld. Kahn may have been a bad ruler, but that doesn't mean he was the worst. I definitely think that if Mileena or Baraka became rulers then things would be much worse in outworld. Li Mei may have simply found a way to look into the past and speak to Jade. It's not like she is trying to save Kahn either. The ending says that Kahn's death must be "re-imagined" not prevented. It could be wrote in some way I'm sure. I'm not saying it would be good neccessarily, but hell NRS story pretty much sucked this time anyway so it's obvious they're not going for good.
They are more or less just looking for a way to incorporate a character into the game that seems somewhat logical. That way they can just have new characters come next game so that it's not a complete repeat. I mean that's what they did with cyber subz. They wanted a third cyborg that wasn't smoke because that would be too obvious, so goodbye subz old story, hello robotic parts. That's all it is to them. As much as I want them to care about the story, it really seems like they really don't at times. They are just looking for a way to put a character in the game that plays differently from the other characters to make a little money.
Anyways, I'm going with Li Mei, Delia, or a new character all together. Don't know why I have this negative view on NRS today. Maybe it's finals.lol.
No matter how many times people are going to disagree with this statement, Cyber Sub-Zero isn't any different than his human counterpart. He's still the same Sub-Zero after he was re-programmed to the forces of good.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
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Icebaby Wrote:
No matter how many times people are going to disagree with this statement, Cyber Sub-Zero isn't any different than his human counterpart. He's still the same Sub-Zero after he was re-programmed to the forces of good.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
No matter how many times people are going to disagree with this statement, Cyber Sub-Zero isn't any different than his human counterpart. He's still the same Sub-Zero after he was re-programmed to the forces of good.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
I don't know. I think that was just more of them trying to cover their a**es after the fact. Most people have talked about how Cyber Subz was the cookie cutter good guy. Even having him save the armed forces guys. Please, you can't tell me that wasn't trying to play to emotions. Then compare Cyber Subz to how Sub-Zero acted in his chapter. Sub-Zero was still a good guy, but they tried to make him appear like an a**hole, honestly that was more how I pictured Sub-Zero acting anyway though. Then when people got to cyber subz chapter they could fall in love with the new guy. I don't really care though because it didn't work obviously. People still like, and will always like Normal Subz more. It was still a bad idea. Granted they also made cyber subz a faster playing character, which coincidentally is what a lot of sub-zero fans ask for instead of the more defensive slower sub-zero. They gave Cyber Subz all of the tools to be liked in this game and still epically failed in my opinion. Why? Because you don't f**k with one of the mascots. That may not sound good from a story soundpoint, but from a business standpoint it should be taken note of. A drastic change like that was always going to completely divide the fanbase.
I was more or less arguing the fact that they wouldn't butcher a character to make them appear as another character though. They did that with Sub-Zero. His story didn't have to stay the same, but it could have stayed similar. They just erased all of that development to make another Ice character, which people complain about enough with frost already. They also turned him into a cyborg which people were asking them not to do before release, because it was such an obvious change that people seen it coming from a mile away.
Anyway, that's the argument. If they would do that to Sub-Zero, whose popularity is second only to Scorpion, then they most definitely would scrap li mei, ashrah, or delia's story's completely. Sub-Zero's story was one of the favorite's of the old timeline and they completely erased it. Don't think they won't do the same with one of those minor characters.
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Icebaby Wrote:
No matter how many times people are going to disagree with this statement, Cyber Sub-Zero isn't any different than his human counterpart. He's still the same Sub-Zero after he was re-programmed to the forces of good.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
No matter how many times people are going to disagree with this statement, Cyber Sub-Zero isn't any different than his human counterpart. He's still the same Sub-Zero after he was re-programmed to the forces of good.
If they wanted to keep him different, they wouldn't have made Sonya and Jax reprogram him. Thus, he would have remained evil.
Icebaby, I agree with you on this, but you can't convince a fan otherwise when they have already made up their mind.
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1o - The context I am referring to is the overall theme of this game, which is trying to prevent Armageddon.
2o - Events in the past endings, often even if the canonical endings (ie, the events it describes as the end of the story of the game) are not. As can be seen in the revelation that Noob Saibot was the Sub Zero Classic at the end of Mortal Kombat Deception. Therefore we can assume for example that a clone of Shinnok who participated in the Pyramid of Argus in Armageddon, which is a Smoke Enenra that Kung Lao is the reincarnation of his antecepado and one of the Souls so Ermac is Jerrod (although not believe that any of them becomes dominant, because that would ruin the character).
3o - Of course, this final will not be continued in the next game, nor have reference to it. And in this case the interpretation that Delia is watching the events of the heavens is the most appropriate.
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
2o - Events in the past endings, often even if the canonical endings (ie, the events it describes as the end of the story of the game) are not. As can be seen in the revelation that Noob Saibot was the Sub Zero Classic at the end of Mortal Kombat Deception. Therefore we can assume for example that a clone of Shinnok who participated in the Pyramid of Argus in Armageddon, which is a Smoke Enenra that Kung Lao is the reincarnation of his antecepado and one of the Souls so Ermac is Jerrod (although not believe that any of them becomes dominant, because that would ruin the character).
3o - Of course, this final will not be continued in the next game, nor have reference to it. And in this case the interpretation that Delia is watching the events of the heavens is the most appropriate.
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
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Odemuitascastas Wrote:
1o - The context I am referring to is the overall theme of this game, which is trying to prevent Armageddon.
1o - The context I am referring to is the overall theme of this game, which is trying to prevent Armageddon.
If you notice, then none of the Arcade endings have anything to do with preventing the Armageddon. Not as far as I can tell, that is.
Odemuitascastas Wrote:
2o - Events in the past endings, often even if the canonical endings (ie, the events it describes as the end of the story of the game) are not. As can be seen in the revelation that Noob Saibot was the Sub Zero Classic at the end of Mortal Kombat Deception. Therefore we can assume for example that a clone of Shinnok who participated in the Pyramid of Argus in Armageddon, which is a Smoke Enenra that Kung Lao is the reincarnation of his antecepado and one of the Souls so Ermac is Jerrod (although not believe that any of them becomes dominant, because that would ruin the character).
2o - Events in the past endings, often even if the canonical endings (ie, the events it describes as the end of the story of the game) are not. As can be seen in the revelation that Noob Saibot was the Sub Zero Classic at the end of Mortal Kombat Deception. Therefore we can assume for example that a clone of Shinnok who participated in the Pyramid of Argus in Armageddon, which is a Smoke Enenra that Kung Lao is the reincarnation of his antecepado and one of the Souls so Ermac is Jerrod (although not believe that any of them becomes dominant, because that would ruin the character).
I believe NRS themselves said that Story Mode was supposed to be the canon storyline and the Arcade endings aren't. In the past games ALL endings were what-if scenarios, some of them just happened to be canon in the sequals. Jade is under Quan Chi's enslavement after Sindel killed her, she didn't defeat Shao Kahn and her Arcade ending didn't happen, HOWEVER, it is plausible that she will become possessed by the mysterious woman in the next game, but it would be under different circumstances.
Odemuitascastas Wrote:
3o - Of course, this final will not be continued in the next game, nor have reference to it. And in this case the interpretation that Delia is watching the events of the heavens is the most appropriate.
3o - Of course, this final will not be continued in the next game, nor have reference to it. And in this case the interpretation that Delia is watching the events of the heavens is the most appropriate.
Agreed.
Odemuitascastas Wrote:
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
I am not sure what you are saying with this. Could you please rephrase it?
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I am not sure what you are saying with this. Could you please rephrase it?
Odemuitascastas Wrote:
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
4o -Li Mei Shao Kahn would never support, because as noted in previous games, it certainly would prefer a realm of the Dragon King in Outherrealm.
I am not sure what you are saying with this. Could you please rephrase it?
I believe what he means is that Li Mei would never support Shao Kahn's return due to his previous tyrannical reign wreaking her village (or was that Shang and Quan? I don't remember.) Like what was shown in Deception's Konquest. However she may support Onaga's rule because I guess her Deception ending had her join Onaga. Thing is, I thought that only happened because her soul spent time trapped in the body of one of his soldiers. So Onaga may have been manipulating her.
Really I don't think it's Li Mei, Ashrah, or Delia. And speculating over it is kinda of a moot discussion. As I'm sure someone mentioned these ending are not canon, just a bunch of what-ifs that are throw backs to the older games. I think it's likely they wont be mentioned again.
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