That doesn't matter to me. So far as I'm concerned, story aside, Cyber Sub-Zero should have been nothing more than an alternate costume for Sub-Zero and confusingly his story is a re-imagining of Cyrax story, rather than Smoke's.



Maybe Chaosrealm has been re-imagined, it wouldn't be the 1st thing in the game to suffer such a fate..



I've seen Jade's ending a few dozen times now! Since I'm working on getting her stats up. With a view to eventually earning the "My Kung Fu Is Stronger" achievement. Furthermore I watched it several more times on YouTube, while I trying to get the V/O dialogue right in my quote..



Mileena didn't start as a Childish/Slutty, Giggly Skank!! Her 1st appearance in MK2, Mileena was Withdrawn and Cold, as well as being Ruthlessly Ambitious. Cunning, Calculating and Cruel. She was easily able to manipulate less intelligent creatures and races, that doesn't necessarily mean with sex. Furthermore she was Jealous of Kitana, but probably more so of her position and power, than of her face.. Even in Deception when Mileena became more sexualised, she retained her original Calculating, Power-hungry personality..

That makes sense then, though yes, it was the Deadly Alliance that enslaved her and her village. Before that they were just another normal village in Outworld, but I would guess that they were still a very oppressed people. We don't know though.

The reason Li Mei turns to Onaga's side in her Deception ending is because her soul is affected by the soldier she was almost transferred into in her Deadly Alliance ending.

So before Deadly Alliance/Deception, she probably doesn't even know anything about any Onaga or Dragon King, unless it is part of her school's history lessons. Again, we don't know.

Too bad Cyborg Sub-Zero's story and Cyrax's story aren't even close to being similar.



Thanks for explaining me things I already know since I'm a huge fan of MIleena.

I guess my explaination of why Mileena acts like a child didn't sink in through to you at all. Did you not realize that this story happened right as soon as she was created? You know what happens when you're not well-educated? You're not that bright. And since I doubt Kahn and Shang Tsung sat down with her and explained everything that she needs to do in the amount of time that's needed, guess what, Mileena acts like this. And you know what? I think this is a much suitable personality for her. After all, it makes perfect sense for her to act like this becuase she's supposed to be total opposite of Kitana.



And you don't think anyone would notice a big change with their character all of a sudden? Do you realize that just because a character who has appeared in only one game would still be recognizable in this series? Ashrah was always known as the "female Raiden" due to that large hat of hers. There's a perfectly good reason why she looks like that and I'm not explaining it again as multiple people, who knows this series better than you do, have already done enough explaining already. There's no fucking way the creators would just toss everything away from what the character looked like in the past and give them a brand new story that was never even near their original story.

That would be fucking things up epically.




Do you not realize the differences in technology back then and now? Did you not realize that during the 90s, motion capturing was limited becuase they couldn't capture a lot of stuff that they wanted to. Such as, Kabal was supposed to have a trench coat, but due to technical difficulties, they scrapped that.

Today, the designers have the technology to make their characters look like what they should be. I can still establish each character on who they are based on their appearances.

This isn't Street Fighter, where every character needs to stay the same. This is Mortal Kombat.

Li Mei's appearance in Deception was explained. She trained more with Bo Rai' Cho to help him fight against the Tarkatan army, thus wearing more armor than before.

Ashrah and Delia doesn't need a new design because they're perfect the way they are. Sure, there might be some differences if they come back into the game, but I know that they're not going to suddenly turn into a green, mysterious woman, dropping their stories, and becoming something that they never even once wore.

None of these characters need a story change all because, in your opinion, NS "fucked up" a character I'm assuming was your favorite. That's not even a logical reason to change a character. If that's how you're stating it, then my god, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this site.

I'm fully aware of changing technology, allowing for greater scope in graphics and therefore character design. That's why the palette swapped characters are no longer palette swaps, that's why Kabal now has his trenchcoat, it's also why the characters have considerably more than the 20 or moves that they had in the original trilogy.

But your original thoughts on the physical appearance of Ashrah, Li-Mei and Delia, give the impression that even minor design changes would be completely unacceptable!!

The female characters bare absolutely no resemblance, however vague or fleeting, to their original character design. Sonya still has her blonde hair, but that's the closest she comes to looking like her original self. The female ninjas have their black hair and face masks, they were also allowed to keep their original colour schemes. Except Mileena who's colour scheme has changed from Purple, to a deep Pink.. Sindel and Sheeva are the only female characters that look similar to their orginal concepts.

So why wouldn't Ashrah, Delia and Li-Mei become as skankified as the other female characters??


If story can be used to explain, the re-design for Li-Mei then story can be used to explain a re-design for ANY character..

The mysterious woman isn't green!! I'm also referring to a video of Jade's ending, currently paused on the mysterious woman, to make sure that I'm not wrong. The mysterious woman has a perfectly natural Caucasian skin tone, although her arms and face do have a slight blue cast because of the light shining forth from her..

Ashrah, Delia and Li-Mei may not require a story change, in your opinion, but that doesn't mean they won't get one. While I do think that they've F***ed Mileena up, I don't think that having Ashrah, Delia or Li-Mei be the mysterious woman is a F*** up!! Especially in the case of Delia, it's entirely possible that she believes that the events of Armageddon must take place. Albeit without Daegon becoming corrupted. Re-imagining Shao Khan's death could mean, that she believes Taven or Daegon must defeat him and then go on to defeat Blaze!!

See!! I can see some story developments, that, if used at all, could have potential if elaborated on..

LASTLY!! Kitana is my favourite character not Mileena

You can see Chaosrealm in the challenge tower, and it looks the goddamn same as in Deception! Broken, floating roads and mountains, lots of green fire, NOT made of crystals.



Actually, the armor was mostly 'cause her soul was tainted by one of the Dragon King's mummies. That's why it had dragon wing patterns and stuff on it.

But since time was rewound and none of her old story has happened yet, she'll look like an innocent villager girl the next time we see her like she did in Deadly Alliance, yeah.

Hold your horseeeeeeees, D.J. Michael #80!
I don't think that you should take the skin tone into account at all, because MK characters change their skin tones almost as often as your namesake Michael Jackson (RIP) does. The Dragon King had a completely different look in Deadly Alliance compared to the latter form in Deception, the MK9 intro and Armageddon. Ermac's skin tone varies, as does Jade's.

I desired to bring my €0.02. First of all things, I was surprised when you entitled the "unknown realm" as *Crystal Realm*; I had to watch the ending again to ensure that such a name hasn't been given so far. It's a good name for convenience purposes, but I don't see it likely that the developers would introduce two new realms in MK9 that focuses in the MK–MK3 era. It seems totally plausible that the realm Jade fell into was Dream Realm. Jade was in this new, mysterious, unknown realm in a dream-like state. One would think that NeRdS would utilize this Dream Realm elsewhere than in Freddy's ending just – it's their creation after all.
Jade's Ending | Freddy's Ending
I wouldn't necessarily rule Delia out: she might very well be Delia or someone else we know from the past, because otherwise the narrator could have at least told her name. The things you see in a dream appear inaccurate and the fact that she was referred as a "mysterious woman" makes one think that maybe NeRdS wanted to conceal her identity from us until the sequel. It wouldn't harm anyone to reveal her name if she were a new character. Hey, Zelda was Sheikh in Ocarina of Time. Or, it is just NeRdS creating additional plot speculation to the fans who are not going to get a new game for a good while anyway. It's fairly possible that she's a new character who who will have strong connections to the already existing characters. She could very well be just a new character for Mortal Kombat 10, who'll this way have a better welcome as "an already existing character" just as Skarlet did, which I think this is ultimately about.
Even if it's Dream Realm, which seems prospective, I don't think that she would be anyone from A Nightmare On Elm Street because the movies don't have any "regal authorities" from what I know of. Has anyone studied the dreams and their meanings – could these *crystals* serve a special purpose in dreams? Are there any other possible signs that it's a dream?

The "Dream Realm" is only in Freddy's ending because it's Nightmare on Elm Street canon that Freddy rules the world of dreams. There's no reason to take it seriously as part of the Mortal Kombat cosmos.

Too bad Delia isn't going to be her becuase her entire wardrobe is red and black, representing fire. She's a goddess, that mysterious woman, doesn't seem for a second to be a goddess. Why would Delia suddenly be her when that's not even her to begin with?

Li Mei isn't magical, as stated numerous times already on this thread on reasons why she couldn't become one.

Ashrah is a demon hunter/vampire hunter, as stated numerous times already on this thread on reasons why she couldn't become a magical, possessive creature.

Man it's like talking to a brick wall who cannot clearly see the reasons why when they've been stated by numerous of people on this thread, by people who know this game a heck of a lot more than you.

When you see the user Razorsedge, entering a thread, it's usually when there's something that's being stated wrong and he comes in and corrects it. Since he has the most knowledge of the game than anyone else here, I can assure you that something in this thread is being stated wrong.

As you can clearly see, he corrected me on why Li Mei wore the armor, which in my opinion, makes more sense then what I wrote. You see he does that more than once here, and since he's been in here, quoted what I wrote earlier about how the creators just wouldn't suddenly butcher an already known character to make sense of this mysterious creature, I'm going to assume that this thread is nothing but an utter joke. And by the responses that you have clearly stated, I'm going to assume it is moving towards that direction since I cannot tell you how many times I've repeated the same thing over and over again in my last two posts on this thread.

Yeesh.



Well, you kept referring to Mileena, and making it seem like they ruined a character for you, so I naturally assumed she was your favorite.

It is true that Freddy and Kratos live in parallel universes of Mortal Kombat that are close to the canon Mortal Kombat 9. Nevertheless, there are lots of endings, such as Smoke's, that are non-canon yet reveal things that can be considered official. We know that Smoke didn't kill Shao Kahn, but we were able to collect new information considered canon from it, namely the Enenra disclosure. We could collect information from Freddy's ending in the same manner, even if he is a guest star. It's not bulletproof, but still.

I don't want to pick sides here, but she doesn't show quite green to me. 'Course, a yellowish skin may appear slightly greenish in a blue light.

If anything, she looks to have pale skin with a blue/green/turqouise tint to it.

None of the girls, Ashrah, Li Mei or Delia have such pale skin. Li Mei has Asian skin, Delia and Ashrah both have a slight tan, not brown at all, but not quite pale either.

Those are all canon characters.

Freddy and Kratos literally don't count. As far as the Mortal Kombat storyline is concerned, they're not even in the game. They don't exist, they're only there "just for fun".

Anyway, on the subject of crystal-chick, I'm gonna go so far as to say, I don't think her skin is just pale and picking up the blue lighting, I'm inclined to believe she literally has blue skin. I'm not gonna be shocked if she shows up as a full character down the road and it turns out she's normal colored or her skin is, say, some kind of white or pale gray and it was just the light making it look blue, but right now that's what it looks like to me, blue skin.

I don't think the chick has blue or green skin. I think it''s pale or asian skin. The light hitting the blue crystalline structure of the realm is making her skin appear blueish. She definitely doesn't have different color skin.

I'm calling it now though. She's the Woman in Purple from Kahn's arena.lol. Anyone remember her?

True dat.lol.

I honestly don't know who the woman is. I think it's probably a new character or as I said Li Mei from the future. Maybe Kahn's death caused a more horrible fate than she could have ever imagined. So now she has come in contact with a relic that allowed her to look back in time. May be far off but sounds reasonable to me anyway.

I hate that you think Li Mei is so bland. I feel that she was the best developed female of the new generation. I consider that MK4-MKA. Yes, she even beats Tanya.

However, You have to think. Like everyone has been saying things won't go down the same. The changed a whole hell of a lot of things. First, Deadly Alliance won't happen. Without deadly alliance Li Mei's village can't become enslaved. The dragon king also won't be awakened, which means Li Mei has absolutely nothing. I mean nothing.

So, if they want to introduce her then they will have to do it some other way. Perhaps this is their way of doing it. Maybe as a result of Kahn dying the netherrealm does take over both outworld and earthrealm. Thus Li Mei being a hero in the future has to find a way to contact one of the heroes in the past and let them know that things aren't happening as they should.

I mean let's face it Kahn was a bad ruler, but I would rather him rule than have the Netherrealm take over. So now Li Mei comes in contact with something, whether it be a relic or she gets some kind of power and then she contacts Jade through her dreams letting her know that Kahn's death must be re-imagined. That could be her way of trying to prevent the Netherrealms rule.

It wouldn't be so far out, I mean it is mortal kombat and Li Mei is a hero. If in the future the world and outworld are ruled by the netherrealm then one of the heroes would have to find a way into the past and change it. Li Mei could be just that girl.

I think if there were a lot of blue light reflecting onto her, her clothes would have more of a blue tint to them too. It's how vibrant gold her outfit is that makes me think the blue is her actual skin color.

Someone send a message to the past again to avoid a catastrophe. Do not repeat the action is laziness on Netherrealm Studius. Then we have to deal with the changes of Raiden.

And the inclusion of Li Mei in history now seems very simple, more a soldier of Mileena in protecting Outworld Shinnok's forces, and thus protecting your home and villain fell into the hands of Oni, or spectra of the Brotherhood of Shadows. After all was that point where the story stopped in MK9. It may even represent the breed outworlds defense, as Reiko must be related to the other side.

To temper his story I would make a Lava Priest sometime in the Story Mode.



Jaded-Raven. I was referring to the same end of Deception, is already clarified the matter. Thank You.

The question number one is: When?

Yes, I acknowledged that. I just thought that these unofficial endings could be utilized by releasing tidbits for other purposes. They're endings in the same sense as the MK/DC endings were, though. It's well possible that she isn't connected to anything or anyone else we have, except Jade.
She might not be anything that special once she'll be revealed... The chances that she's blue are somewhat slim but the fact that Jade's eyes began glowing blue after she possessed Jade supports that possibility.

Move-wise, bland. She had the DULLEST move set I've ever seen for a female character right next to Kira. She didn't look remotely powerful as towards the other characters in Deception. She barely possessed anything that was magic. The only magical thing I can think of that she uses in a fight is that Nova Blast. Sure, her kick flips and punches had some sparkle effect, but glittery moves doesn't give me the impression that she is, indeed, a powerful supernatural being.

An amazing fighter? Yes, because she was taught by Bo Rai' Cho, and we all know who he taught... *Ahem* Liu Kang. I'll give it to her that she knows how to fight. Being magical, however, that goes to other characters. Not her.



To be honest, the Deadly Alliance doesn't need to be together in order for Onaga to be waken up. If Shujinko's story is still existing throughout this timeline, then there's a chance that Onaga will come back into the series. How he'll do it will be a different way. Hopefully, it's not where Reptile is being used by him to hatch out of the egg. I'd prefer if Reptile would not succumb to that again.



The problem with this theory is that Li Mei is already a known character. If she were to just suddenly change into a new character just like that, there would have to be a heck of an explanation to do, on why her, why she became this, and how it happened.

I certainly doubt that arcade endings are this powerful enough to change one character who wasn't even mentioned in this series into something completely new without any kind of warning.



Why in the world would she contact a person who she never met? Li Mei NEVER once encountered Jade, so why all of a sudden you pin two characters who never encountered each other to encounter each other? Why would they make Li Mei, of all characters, to suddenly change from an enslaved villager to a mysterious, mind possessing creature, who deems to be very powerful?

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.



Except, you're talking about an arcade ending. And ending that will most likely just get tossed off to the side and pretend that it never exist since you have story mode to worry about. Since arcade endings are "what-if" scenarios, why would one person's arcade ending soon turn into this biggest ending ever to happen for next game's story that we have no idea about?

I'd like to actually know why arcade endings are now being taken seriously.

Does everyone forget that like the first five games of MK (1-DA) the story came mostly from the endings. Even though not all of the parts of them were true a lot of times part of them also were, and that was even true in deception and true for some in Armageddon.

Endings should not, I repeat should not just be thrown out as non-canon. If anything the storymodes are just as unreliable. Hell all of Armageddon's story was untrue because Taven didn't even win Armageddon in the end.

Besides MKvsDC this is the first game in which we have had a cinematic storymode. Who the hell knows if all of the parts will stick? I'm sure major points of it will. Like most of the heroes dying will probably stick, but they can easily pull it out of their a**es and say oh well this and that happened behind the scenes or something like that. I most definitely think that the endings will play a part as to where the story is heading in the next game.

My point is why the hell put endings in the game if they play no part whatsoever. I would rather them just place a caption in the game that says "Congratulations you have completed Arcade mode" and then unlock my alt if that's the only point that the endings have. If any of the endings can end up happening it's definitely Jade's because she's dead and her ending show's her awakening in the mortal realm. Who the hell she is posessed by is a moot point. Her ending may not happen, but there's also a good possibility it could.

Honestly if I had to choose a story for the game and I had the option of the endings or the actual story of this game I would choose endings ten times over because whoever wrote them at least semi knew what they were doing it appeared, whereas the person who wrote story mode just erased sh** as they pleased. That's an opinion though.

The fact is that endings should not be thrown out as nothing. Endings have always played a part in MK games, and if they don't for the next game then they should just do away with them all together.

Back on topic:

I get what you are saying Icebaby and I completely agree. Li Mei did not have magical powers. At all. Not even a little bit in the slightest manner did she have magical powers or could she travel a message through time.

My argument here though is neither did Raiden until they wrote the sh** in. Whether it would be good or not is up to the audience, but they could easily write in a way for Li Mei to send this message to Jade.

Who knows why she would pick Jade? That's for the writers to decide. Maybe Li Mei turns out to be the only hero left in the future. I mean Raiden got all of the other ones killed so it shouldn't be too far out to think he gets more killed in the future.

As far as her having this power to send a message back in time, well anything could give her that power. Anything. Maybe as a result of the Netherrealm merging with Outworld some cosmic power came over her or something. I don't know.

I'm saying though that with all of the things that happened in the last game, don't rule it out to be Li mei. Weirder things have happened.

If I had to choose it to be an old character though I would pick Li mei. I am NOT saying that it is her for sure though. It probably is a new character. Whoever it is I hope Jade does awaken in the next game and realizes that Raiden tried to sell them all out. Raiden officially went from one of my favorite characters throughout the series to probably my most hated character in the game this time around. I hope he dies a bloody murder of a death in the next game and stays gone for good because he is a sucky ruler. period.

Endings are usually the canonical when they are peripheral to the main story, which makes the case that the game probably the canonical example Sektor, or aspectros events that reveal the past as in the case of Deception where he revealed who the Noob Saibot (what does not as it was just the first five games, but in six), this game we have the revelations about the former incarnation of Kung Lao, a part of the essence so that Ermac and the true nature of Smoke. But most of the endings were always "what if ..." and the majority has always been impossible or inside jokes, so as it is impossible that the Ending of Jade takes place, which can extract from it is just that "a woman observes the flow of history and finds that potential destruction of Kahn at that time can not be beneficent, "has nothing to do with the message of the future. The potential for this impact is minimal in the future.

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On the idea of making the future a Lava Priest Li Mei, a inclemento staff and would not think that will happen, unlike the rest of the post and talk about it sort of shifts the topic of your purpose, but it would be in the middle of the story , probably after his own act even enough for the Mantle Lava Priest becomes Alternate Costume is your next game.

Endings are rarely 100% canon, but usually bits of different endings end up as being part of the canon. For example, Jade's UMK3/MKT ending had her defeat Shao Kahn and then join Kitana in Edenia. It is non-canon that she defeated Shao Kahn, but it became canon that she joined Kitana.

The same could happen with her new ending. She didn't defeat Shao Kahn (as it was shown in Story Mode that it was Raiden who defeated Shao Kahn), but she could still end up being possessed by this mystery lady somehow.

All endings should be considered non-canon until proven otherwise in the next game though.

Two questions

1. What is a lava priest?

2. When did I suggest that Li Mei should be one?

The Onaga worshippers who guard the egg from Deadly Alliance?