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01/26/2011 06:46 PM (UTC)
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Rant on the Official MK 2011 Discussion Forum...

I can't understand why useless, controversial threads are the ones continuing to stay a-top the 2011 Discussion forum when there are 10x better threads that are made and discussed in one day; yet after that, they disappear. Why do users even humor such utterly useless threads?
I just don't understand the logic.

Done.
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01/26/2011 09:45 PM (UTC)
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FROST4584 Wrote:
This whole game seems like a waste of time in terms of story. Seriously, we go back to MK1-MKT again for the 3rd time in a row? All Raiden has to do is send a mental message back to myself to “fix” things. Hell, he could have done that years ago. So this pretty much means, when ever things go wrong again, we will just end up at Mortal Kombat 1 again, right? Again this is just another cheap way in not moving foward with the series. Ever since MK: Deception Mortal Kombat has done was stay in the past over user of returning characters and stages.


The game play may be good, but the game reeks of unoriginal that comes with reboot. Why couldn't the MK team relaunch the series like they did with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, the last MK game that took a bold new direction with the series?

Putting guest characters in the MK series is another aspect, that upsets me. Why can't Mortal Kombat just be Mortal Kombat? I hope Xbox version is guest character free.

Overall I'm upset this the first MK game since Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance that has a focus on gameplay, and the other half of the game is based off
old storylines that ended YEARS ago.


I have to disagree with you when it comes to the story. I like how they are going back to the first 3 games to retell it with today's tech. They can also fix continuity problems (Such as Cage's death), and make it less convoluted. It will also focus on the characters I consider to be the best of the franchise, and the stories which are some of my favorites. This could also mean that most of these characters will be in the next iteration, without sporadic ressurections.

I agree with you that MKDA had a great story that I feel is both epic and original. I wouldn't mind the same treatment for the new game, but how many times will you kill and ressurect dead characters. I also like the idea of starting fresh after the disastrous lore of MKD and MKA.
I also didn't like MK4. Too many of the new characters sucked and I find the origins and motives of Shinock confusing.

Now I will finally get a story mode with cutscenes, and a story and characters I like.
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01/29/2011 01:32 AM (UTC)
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New users make me mad no offense but most MOST new users scream cuss at other users spam and give me chest pain
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01/29/2011 03:37 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
This whole game seems like a waste of time in terms of story. Seriously, we go back to MK1-MKT again for the 3rd time in a row? All Raiden has to do is send a mental message back to myself to “fix” things. Hell, he could have done that years ago. So this pretty much means, when ever things go wrong again, we will just end up at Mortal Kombat 1 again, right? Again this is just another cheap way in not moving foward with the series. Ever since MK: Deception Mortal Kombat has done was stay in the past over user of returning characters and stages.


The game play may be good, but the game reeks of unoriginal that comes with reboot. Why couldn't the MK team relaunch the series like they did with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, the last MK game that took a bold new direction with the series?

Putting guest characters in the MK series is another aspect, that upsets me. Why can't Mortal Kombat just be Mortal Kombat? I hope Xbox version is guest character free.

Overall I'm upset this the first MK game since Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance that has a focus on gameplay, and the other half of the game is based off
old storylines that ended YEARS ago.


I have to disagree with you when it comes to the story. I like how they are going back to the first 3 games to retell it with today's tech. They can also fix continuity problems (Such as Cage's death), and make it less convoluted. It will also focus on the characters I consider to be the best of the franchise, and the stories which are some of my favorites. This could also mean that most of these characters will be in the next iteration, without sporadic ressurections.

I agree with you that MKDA had a great story that I feel is both epic and original. I wouldn't mind the same treatment for the new game, but how many times will you kill and ressurect dead characters. I also like the idea of starting fresh after the disastrous lore of MKD and MKA.
I also didn't like MK4. Too many of the new characters sucked and I find the origins and motives of Shinock confusing.

Now I will finally get a story mode with cutscenes, and a story and characters I like.


Cage's death was explained years ago. Cage died before the start of MK3.MKT the merger(Earth and outworld) blocked Cage's soul to going to heaven, therefore he was able to help the good guys. After the battle was won, he went to heaven. Shinnok's invasion in MK4 helped his soul come back to life. You see MK doesn't have much of storyline issues , until Mortal Kombat Decepetion. MK1- Deadly Alliance storyline's are near perfect.

Mortal Kombat has been living in the past since Mortal Kombat Deception. How many times are they are going to reuse MK1-MK3 stuff? The MK team has been doing it for pretty much every MK game since Deception(2004). Aren't you tired of seeing the same old stages, and now OLD storylines brought back? Why hasn't the series brought in a new threat?

Vogel and his storytelling crew couldn’t think of anything. This game's storyline is a result of Vogel reworking Tobias’s classic MK storyline mainly because they had no clue on where to take the series. As a long time MK fan who knows what has been going on. Maybe the time travel event should have taken place during Vogel and his storyline periods crew’s run ( Deadly Alliance to Armageddon)

Speaking for myself I don't see a point for this retelling. For example, what is the point of retelling the Sub vs Scorp feud if you know that really happened? Its like your beating a dead horse.

Seeing a movie that isn't the original idea or what happened back when I was playing MK back in arcades in the 90s is sort of upsetting, even if it were the original storylines. Again I don't see the big deal in movies "acting out" what I've known for years.

The whole idea after all these years of threats of MK1 , MK3, MK4 , Deadly Alliance, and Deception that Raiden NOW send a time travel message to myself. Wow if all it takes for Raiden to save the world was a mental message then there would be no point in the good games winning or bad guys losing if all it takes to make things right was a mental message.

Why not hire John Tobias? You know the guy that put Mortal Kombat on the map in terms of storyline and characters. Heck he is a consultant for video games. I would have hired Tobias to work on this game storyline.

Resurrections are apart of MK history. This reboot won't help in "making the storyline better".

I am greatful for this new MK game,but at what point can be get a new MK game that goes into uncharted terrority that hasn't been seen since Deadly Alliance as far as storyline. With this game, they have the new gameplay, I've been waiting for since Deadly Alliance.
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01/30/2011 06:06 AM (UTC)
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Seriously. Why is Sub-Zero's win pose so lame? This is something I completely forgot about until tonight.
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01/30/2011 08:31 AM (UTC)
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FROST4584 Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
This whole game seems like a waste of time in terms of story. Seriously, we go back to MK1-MKT again for the 3rd time in a row? All Raiden has to do is send a mental message back to myself to “fix” things. Hell, he could have done that years ago. So this pretty much means, when ever things go wrong again, we will just end up at Mortal Kombat 1 again, right? Again this is just another cheap way in not moving foward with the series. Ever since MK: Deception Mortal Kombat has done was stay in the past over user of returning characters and stages.


The game play may be good, but the game reeks of unoriginal that comes with reboot. Why couldn't the MK team relaunch the series like they did with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, the last MK game that took a bold new direction with the series?

Putting guest characters in the MK series is another aspect, that upsets me. Why can't Mortal Kombat just be Mortal Kombat? I hope Xbox version is guest character free.

Overall I'm upset this the first MK game since Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance that has a focus on gameplay, and the other half of the game is based off
old storylines that ended YEARS ago.


I have to disagree with you when it comes to the story. I like how they are going back to the first 3 games to retell it with today's tech. They can also fix continuity problems (Such as Cage's death), and make it less convoluted. It will also focus on the characters I consider to be the best of the franchise, and the stories which are some of my favorites. This could also mean that most of these characters will be in the next iteration, without sporadic ressurections.

I agree with you that MKDA had a great story that I feel is both epic and original. I wouldn't mind the same treatment for the new game, but how many times will you kill and ressurect dead characters. I also like the idea of starting fresh after the disastrous lore of MKD and MKA.
I also didn't like MK4. Too many of the new characters sucked and I find the origins and motives of Shinock confusing.

Now I will finally get a story mode with cutscenes, and a story and characters I like.


Cage's death was explained years ago. Cage died before the start of MK3.MKT the merger(Earth and outworld) blocked Cage's soul to going to heaven, therefore he was able to help the good guys. After the battle was won, he went to heaven. Shinnok's invasion in MK4 helped his soul come back to life. You see MK doesn't have much of storyline issues , until Mortal Kombat Decepetion. MK1- Deadly Alliance storyline's are near perfect.


Mortal Kombat has been living in the past since Mortal Kombat Deception. How many times are they are going to reuse MK1-MK3 stuff? The MK team has been doing it for pretty much every MK game since Deception(2004). Aren't you tired of seeing the same old stages, and now OLD storylines brought back? Why hasn't the series brought in a new threat?

Vogel and his storytelling crew couldn’t think of anything. This game's storyline is a result of Vogel reworking Tobias’s classic MK storyline mainly because they had no clue on where to take the series. As a long time MK fan who knows what has been going on. Maybe the time travel event should have taken place during Vogel and his storyline periods crew’s run ( Deadly Alliance to Armageddon)

Speaking for myself I don't see a point for this retelling. For example, what is the point of retelling the Sub vs Scorp feud if you know that really happened? Its like your beating a dead horse.

Seeing a movie that isn't the original idea or what happened back when I was playing MK back in arcades in the 90s is sort of upsetting, even if it were the original storylines. Again I don't see the big deal in movies "acting out" what I've known for years.

The whole idea after all these years of threats of MK1 , MK3, MK4 , Deadly Alliance, and Deception that Raiden NOW send a time travel message to myself. Wow if all it takes for Raiden to save the world was a mental message then there would be no point in the good games winning or bad guys losing if all it takes to make things right was a mental message.

Why not hire John Tobias? You know the guy that put Mortal Kombat on the map in terms of storyline and characters. Heck he is a consultant for video games. I would have hired Tobias to work on this game storyline.

Resurrections are apart of MK history. This reboot won't help in "making the storyline better".


I am greatful for this new MK game,but at what point can be get a new MK game that goes into uncharted terrority that hasn't been seen since Deadly Alliance as far as storyline. With this game, they have the new gameplay, I've been waiting for since Deadly Alliance.


I'm actually not really tired of the same stories brought back. I've never seen these stories completely fleshed out. I have read a lot of the lore on websites, but there is still a vagueness to what really happened. I want the classic stories retold in HD, with a high cinematic quality. It also won't be the exact same story. Different things will happen like human smokes fate, and for all we know some of the characters could go out of there way to fix the time line. I don't really have a problem with Raiden's mental message. He has never been so desperate to use it. There is the intro of MKD, but maybe he thought he could take down Onaga with the DA's help. It is a weird power, but they have to come up with some plot device to go back to the past.

As far as a new threat goes the last five games had a new threat. Maybe its time to bring back Khan as the big bad ass of MK. He's my favorite villain.

I'm not really sure that Vogel doesn't know where this is going, because he did write the past 5 games or helped write. We don't know exactly whats going on in NRS. I think a big part of it is what Boon wants and what other producers want story wise so they build the foundation while Vogel completes it. Of course that is only one possibillity. As far as Tobias goes I'm pretty sure they can't just hire Tobias back on a whim. Its probably more complicated than that.

I think the ressurection thing needs to stop. They need to have other reasons for characters not making the roster and coming back in other future games. From this game on I'm hoping that 80% of the cast is in the rest of the games. They should never leave out the originals from MK1.



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01/31/2011 03:53 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
This whole game seems like a waste of time in terms of story. Seriously, we go back to MK1-MKT again for the 3rd time in a row? All Raiden has to do is send a mental message back to myself to “fix” things. Hell, he could have done that years ago. So this pretty much means, when ever things go wrong again, we will just end up at Mortal Kombat 1 again, right? Again this is just another cheap way in not moving foward with the series. Ever since MK: Deception Mortal Kombat has done was stay in the past over user of returning characters and stages.


The game play may be good, but the game reeks of unoriginal that comes with reboot. Why couldn't the MK team relaunch the series like they did with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, the last MK game that took a bold new direction with the series?

Putting guest characters in the MK series is another aspect, that upsets me. Why can't Mortal Kombat just be Mortal Kombat? I hope Xbox version is guest character free.

Overall I'm upset this the first MK game since Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance that has a focus on gameplay, and the other half of the game is based off
old storylines that ended YEARS ago.


I have to disagree with you when it comes to the story. I like how they are going back to the first 3 games to retell it with today's tech. They can also fix continuity problems (Such as Cage's death), and make it less convoluted. It will also focus on the characters I consider to be the best of the franchise, and the stories which are some of my favorites. This could also mean that most of these characters will be in the next iteration, without sporadic ressurections.

I agree with you that MKDA had a great story that I feel is both epic and original. I wouldn't mind the same treatment for the new game, but how many times will you kill and ressurect dead characters. I also like the idea of starting fresh after the disastrous lore of MKD and MKA.
I also didn't like MK4. Too many of the new characters sucked and I find the origins and motives of Shinock confusing.

Now I will finally get a story mode with cutscenes, and a story and characters I like.


Cage's death was explained years ago. Cage died before the start of MK3.MKT the merger(Earth and outworld) blocked Cage's soul to going to heaven, therefore he was able to help the good guys. After the battle was won, he went to heaven. Shinnok's invasion in MK4 helped his soul come back to life. You see MK doesn't have much of storyline issues , until Mortal Kombat Decepetion. MK1- Deadly Alliance storyline's are near perfect.


Mortal Kombat has been living in the past since Mortal Kombat Deception. How many times are they are going to reuse MK1-MK3 stuff? The MK team has been doing it for pretty much every MK game since Deception(2004). Aren't you tired of seeing the same old stages, and now OLD storylines brought back? Why hasn't the series brought in a new threat?

Vogel and his storytelling crew couldn’t think of anything. This game's storyline is a result of Vogel reworking Tobias’s classic MK storyline mainly because they had no clue on where to take the series. As a long time MK fan who knows what has been going on. Maybe the time travel event should have taken place during Vogel and his storyline periods crew’s run ( Deadly Alliance to Armageddon)

Speaking for myself I don't see a point for this retelling. For example, what is the point of retelling the Sub vs Scorp feud if you know that really happened? Its like your beating a dead horse.

Seeing a movie that isn't the original idea or what happened back when I was playing MK back in arcades in the 90s is sort of upsetting, even if it were the original storylines. Again I don't see the big deal in movies "acting out" what I've known for years.

The whole idea after all these years of threats of MK1 , MK3, MK4 , Deadly Alliance, and Deception that Raiden NOW send a time travel message to myself. Wow if all it takes for Raiden to save the world was a mental message then there would be no point in the good games winning or bad guys losing if all it takes to make things right was a mental message.

Why not hire John Tobias? You know the guy that put Mortal Kombat on the map in terms of storyline and characters. Heck he is a consultant for video games. I would have hired Tobias to work on this game storyline.

Resurrections are apart of MK history. This reboot won't help in "making the storyline better".


I am greatful for this new MK game,but at what point can be get a new MK game that goes into uncharted terrority that hasn't been seen since Deadly Alliance as far as storyline. With this game, they have the new gameplay, I've been waiting for since Deadly Alliance.


I'm actually not really tired of the same stories brought back. I've never seen these stories completely fleshed out. I have read a lot of the lore on websites, but there is still a vagueness to what really happened. I want the classic stories retold in HD, with a high cinematic quality. It also won't be the exact same story. Different things will happen like human smokes fate, and for all we know some of the characters could go out of there way to fix the time line. I don't really have a problem with Raiden's mental message. He has never been so desperate to use it. There is the intro of MKD, but maybe he thought he could take down Onaga with the DA's help. It is a weird power, but they have to come up with some plot device to go back to the past.

As far as a new threat goes the last five games had a new threat. Maybe its time to bring back Khan as the big bad ass of MK. He's my favorite villain.

I'm not really sure that Vogel doesn't know where this is going, because he did write the past 5 games or helped write. We don't know exactly whats going on in NRS. I think a big part of it is what Boon wants and what other producers want story wise so they build the foundation while Vogel completes it. Of course that is only one possibillity. As far as Tobias goes I'm pretty sure they can't just hire Tobias back on a whim. Its probably more complicated than that.

I think the ressurection thing needs to stop. They need to have other reasons for characters not making the roster and coming back in other future games. From this game on I'm hoping that 80% of the cast is in the rest of the games. They should never leave out the originals from MK1.




I never understood why a reboot was needed to fix things. On the same note, I am suprised on what some MK fans considers "fixing". I could see how the MK team "fixing" Mortal Kombat storyline starting with Deadly Alliance, Deception or MKA, but going all the way back to MK 1? Doesn't sound sort of silly to fix what was never broken, more so in MK1-MK4?

You mentioned Smoke. Smoke fate didn't have to be determained on events on the past. A good writter could have taken the character anywhere he or she wanted at ANY time.
You see how silly reboots are, thinking that you need to start over to bring new life to a character? Also the idea that Raiden must fix things starting with Mortal Kombat 1, when things really went to hell starting with Deadly Alliance is odd considering that he only need to send a mental message to himself before the events of Deadly Alliance.


, MK always hit the main points on moved on. What part of MK was vague? Vague enough to go back to it, more so warrent fleshing it out more?

Raiden at plenty of times to send a message to himself before MK:A. Heck Raiden can't die anyways. If Raiden "dies", he will reform on Earth. As explained in Deception.

Btw Vogel only wrote 3 MK games.He wrote only the last 3 main MK games last generation.

Again when it comes to something new. I don't see how a new storyline, beats out a old storyline that ended years ago, that we know all the important facts about. For example, does it really matter what older and the younger Sub-Zero real names are? No Sub-Zero or even Vogel and his crew could have written their names anywhere at any time.

I don't see how going back to Khan makes things new. We've seen in too many MK games as Khan the big bad guy. He was cool in MK2, but in MK3 he was dull because gameplay wise, he was the same. Khan's goals are the same.

This whole reboot seems like a sham, to reuse old stuff. Just like how Mortal Kombat Shaloin Monks was a joke in the history of what MK was and what happened, this game aims to do almost the same with the main cannon.
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01/31/2011 07:01 AM (UTC)
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FROST4584 Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
jbthrash Wrote:
FROST4584 Wrote:
This whole game seems like a waste of time in terms of story. Seriously, we go back to MK1-MKT again for the 3rd time in a row? All Raiden has to do is send a mental message back to myself to “fix” things. Hell, he could have done that years ago. So this pretty much means, when ever things go wrong again, we will just end up at Mortal Kombat 1 again, right? Again this is just another cheap way in not moving foward with the series. Ever since MK: Deception Mortal Kombat has done was stay in the past over user of returning characters and stages.


The game play may be good, but the game reeks of unoriginal that comes with reboot. Why couldn't the MK team relaunch the series like they did with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance, the last MK game that took a bold new direction with the series?

Putting guest characters in the MK series is another aspect, that upsets me. Why can't Mortal Kombat just be Mortal Kombat? I hope Xbox version is guest character free.

Overall I'm upset this the first MK game since Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance that has a focus on gameplay, and the other half of the game is based off
old storylines that ended YEARS ago.


I have to disagree with you when it comes to the story. I like how they are going back to the first 3 games to retell it with today's tech. They can also fix continuity problems (Such as Cage's death), and make it less convoluted. It will also focus on the characters I consider to be the best of the franchise, and the stories which are some of my favorites. This could also mean that most of these characters will be in the next iteration, without sporadic ressurections.

I agree with you that MKDA had a great story that I feel is both epic and original. I wouldn't mind the same treatment for the new game, but how many times will you kill and ressurect dead characters. I also like the idea of starting fresh after the disastrous lore of MKD and MKA.
I also didn't like MK4. Too many of the new characters sucked and I find the origins and motives of Shinock confusing.

Now I will finally get a story mode with cutscenes, and a story and characters I like.


Cage's death was explained years ago. Cage died before the start of MK3.MKT the merger(Earth and outworld) blocked Cage's soul to going to heaven, therefore he was able to help the good guys. After the battle was won, he went to heaven. Shinnok's invasion in MK4 helped his soul come back to life. You see MK doesn't have much of storyline issues , until Mortal Kombat Decepetion. MK1- Deadly Alliance storyline's are near perfect.


Mortal Kombat has been living in the past since Mortal Kombat Deception. How many times are they are going to reuse MK1-MK3 stuff? The MK team has been doing it for pretty much every MK game since Deception(2004). Aren't you tired of seeing the same old stages, and now OLD storylines brought back? Why hasn't the series brought in a new threat?

Vogel and his storytelling crew couldn’t think of anything. This game's storyline is a result of Vogel reworking Tobias’s classic MK storyline mainly because they had no clue on where to take the series. As a long time MK fan who knows what has been going on. Maybe the time travel event should have taken place during Vogel and his storyline periods crew’s run ( Deadly Alliance to Armageddon)

Speaking for myself I don't see a point for this retelling. For example, what is the point of retelling the Sub vs Scorp feud if you know that really happened? Its like your beating a dead horse.

Seeing a movie that isn't the original idea or what happened back when I was playing MK back in arcades in the 90s is sort of upsetting, even if it were the original storylines. Again I don't see the big deal in movies "acting out" what I've known for years.

The whole idea after all these years of threats of MK1 , MK3, MK4 , Deadly Alliance, and Deception that Raiden NOW send a time travel message to myself. Wow if all it takes for Raiden to save the world was a mental message then there would be no point in the good games winning or bad guys losing if all it takes to make things right was a mental message.

Why not hire John Tobias? You know the guy that put Mortal Kombat on the map in terms of storyline and characters. Heck he is a consultant for video games. I would have hired Tobias to work on this game storyline.

Resurrections are apart of MK history. This reboot won't help in "making the storyline better".


I am greatful for this new MK game,but at what point can be get a new MK game that goes into uncharted terrority that hasn't been seen since Deadly Alliance as far as storyline. With this game, they have the new gameplay, I've been waiting for since Deadly Alliance.


I'm actually not really tired of the same stories brought back. I've never seen these stories completely fleshed out. I have read a lot of the lore on websites, but there is still a vagueness to what really happened. I want the classic stories retold in HD, with a high cinematic quality. It also won't be the exact same story. Different things will happen like human smokes fate, and for all we know some of the characters could go out of there way to fix the time line. I don't really have a problem with Raiden's mental message. He has never been so desperate to use it. There is the intro of MKD, but maybe he thought he could take down Onaga with the DA's help. It is a weird power, but they have to come up with some plot device to go back to the past.

As far as a new threat goes the last five games had a new threat. Maybe its time to bring back Khan as the big bad ass of MK. He's my favorite villain.

I'm not really sure that Vogel doesn't know where this is going, because he did write the past 5 games or helped write. We don't know exactly whats going on in NRS. I think a big part of it is what Boon wants and what other producers want story wise so they build the foundation while Vogel completes it. Of course that is only one possibillity. As far as Tobias goes I'm pretty sure they can't just hire Tobias back on a whim. Its probably more complicated than that.

I think the ressurection thing needs to stop. They need to have other reasons for characters not making the roster and coming back in other future games. From this game on I'm hoping that 80% of the cast is in the rest of the games. They should never leave out the originals from MK1.




I never understood why a reboot was needed to fix things. On the same note, I am suprised on what some MK fans considers "fixing". I could see how the MK team "fixing" Mortal Kombat storyline starting with Deadly Alliance, Deception or MKA, but going all the way back to MK 1? Doesn't sound sort of silly to fix what was never broken, more so in MK1-MK4?

You mentioned Smoke. Smoke fate didn't have to be determained on events on the past. A good writter could have taken the character anywhere he or she wanted at ANY time.

You see how silly reboots are, thinking that you need to start over to bring new life to a character? Also the idea that Raiden must fix things starting with Mortal Kombat 1, when things really went to hell starting with Deadly Alliance is odd considering that he only need to send a mental message to himself before the events of Deadly Alliance.


, MK always hit the main points on moved on. What part of MK was vague? Vague enough to go back to it, more so warrent fleshing it out more?

Raiden at plenty of times to send a message to himself before MK:A. Heck Raiden can't die anyways. If Raiden "dies", he will reform on Earth. As explained in Deception.

Btw Vogel only wrote 3 MK games.He wrote only the last 3 main MK games last generation.

Again when it comes to something new. I don't see how a new storyline, beats out a old storyline that ended years ago, that we know all the important facts about. For example, does it really matter what older and the younger Sub-Zero real names are? No Sub-Zero or even Vogel and his crew could have written their names anywhere at any time.

I don't see how going back to Khan makes things new. We've seen in too many MK games as Khan the big bad guy. He was cool in MK2, but in MK3 he was dull because gameplay wise, he was the same. Khan's goals are the same.

This whole reboot seems like a sham, to reuse old stuff. Just like how Mortal Kombat Shaloin Monks was a joke in the history of what MK was and what happened, this game aims to do almost the same with the main cannon.


My point about Smoke wasn't that they need to change him, but rather this story will have it's differences on the contrary to your claim that this will be the same story.

To me there is a lot of vagueness to MK. For example, what role did the other characters play in the first game? All we know is why they are there. But aside from Lui and Shang we don't know what their role was, and we don't know what really happened to them. In MK2, how exactly did they get sucked into outworld? It seems really stupid that they would just follow Shang Tsung onto his home turf. I also don't understand the Lin Kui in MK3. What made them want to have cyborg warriors? Another big problem is that each character's ending is a what if scenario rather than a canon ending. I also feel as if each story revolves around a lot of explaining of the situation, but not enough doing. If we could see each character's role it would clear this up.I could go on more but my point is I don't think these stories are as tight as you think they are, and I want to see them completely fleshed out.

As far as Raiden goes, it is odd. But on the contrary we don't know the whole story. If Raiden does die and reform he still has to face a super powered Khan. The other thing is maybe he can't control where his message will go. The Raiden of the past may only get hints as to what will happen rather than the full story.

Thinking of this game as a sham is kind of right. I think. They are using nostalgia as there big marketing strategy. Partly, because these are the characters and stories that most people are familiar with. And to me these are good stories that have never reached their full potential. Ultimately I can't blame them for going backwards. The best stuff was in the first three games. I want to see a different story progression after MK3, because I want to see those characters continue to move on and have new adventures rather than trying to fix things after MKA.
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02/02/2011 02:46 AM (UTC)
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lordkirac Wrote:
my only problem with this game is its not out yet

QFT

I think women should have a lot more clothes in this game. I'm glad that they realized how paying it is to put simple modes such as Tag Team in the game. I hope that we will also see the 8-player mode from UMK3 in the game and maybe others. Endurance mode was pretty solid too. They should arrange something fun in the online play just as Epic and Bungie do. Something like Double XP Weekends in Halo 3 were. Funny game modes that lasted only for one weekend at a time.
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02/02/2011 01:19 PM (UTC)
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Stryker's hat. It's not backwards. It's looks weird in normal forward position. I hope this gets changed. I know this sounds silly to complain about, but let's be real, it wasn't like that in U/MK3.

Mileena's match winning pose. I don't like the noise she makes, her jumping on the screen is supposed to be not expected and scary, I would like her to have a scary scream or something of the like.
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02/03/2011 05:19 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
Stryker's hat. It's not backwards. It's looks weird in normal forward position. I hope this gets changed. I know this sounds silly to complain about, but let's be real, it wasn't like that in U/MK3.

Mileena's match winning pose. I don't like the noise she makes, her jumping on the screen is supposed to be not expected and scary, I would like her to have a scary scream or something of the like.



I can't wait to eat you wouldn't be half bad for better than her acting like a child which I still don't understand.
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02/05/2011 05:49 AM (UTC)
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The official forums.

They're terrible. nobody says anything smart, they're just saying the same thing over and over to get their character ranks up. Even I w asn't that bad when I was new, the worst I've ever done was bump my horrible fan submission (and even then I was just trying to reply)
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iHotaru
02/06/2011 03:32 PM (UTC)
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I hate new users that just come out of know where and then after a few post they disappear
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02/06/2011 03:41 PM (UTC)
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kano and kabal and kintaro and motaro

DEEEERRRRRRP
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swindle
02/06/2011 08:25 PM (UTC)
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I would like to see them do a prequel game that featured characters like the Great Kung Lao and a young Shao Kahn.sad
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02/07/2011 02:40 AM (UTC)
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I understand the uncontrollable urge of being excited when seeing something new on your favourite character, but I think fans of (especially) Kitana and Mileena should stop saying "my girl...my girl...".

Seriously, it just sounds plain weird....wow
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02/07/2011 02:46 AM (UTC)
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Fix reptile. Make him a ninja again, I don't know how they are going to work in the fact that he devolved earlier now then back in the unaltered mk 3 timeline. on top of that it just looks plain wierd.
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02/07/2011 02:47 AM (UTC)
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Ok, another rant on NRS' choice of new info that they release on a weekly basis - in particular videos such as "things to do with Scorpion's spear and Sub Zero's freeze."

Seriously, what's next? With Liu Kang just being revealed, will we get "what to do with Liu Kang's bandana?"

I fear we'll probably get stuff like "stuff to do with Reptile's spit and Kahn's toga" too.confused
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02/07/2011 04:07 AM (UTC)
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Here's the things that bug me:

1- Why do they have to keep giving Johnny Cage shitty tattoos? It's not his fault that all they made him wear in the first games was tights. He's fine, he doesn't need anything. Yeah I get the whole "He's in love with himself 'cause he's an arrogant Hollywood Boy" thing but I would honestly rather have him wear a black T-Shirt Advertising one of his movies than the crappy tattoos we've seen. 'Cause now if they do a sequel to this game, they pretty much HAVE to bring the lame ass tattoo back...Unless you can remove it by performing Kano's laser Eye Fatality on him lol.

2-Female Characters seem to get boob jobs on every game, it's ridiculous! Boobs don't have to be huge to be Hot. If you want a "M" Rating, get it by adding more and more Gore, not by turning the three most badass chicks on MK Universe into strippers (Or at least make them strip for real goddammit...) And then the heels, but that has been discussed to its fullest. I can believe an expert martial artist fighting in heels and winning, but there's no way they can be so agile when their tits weigh more than Goro. Have we really lowered our standards THAT much??

Anyways on to #3

3- This bugged me in the first Arcade game's from the 90's but I knew they couldn't possibly make it more realistic, yet I always fantasized for it being realized in the 3D games, I'm talking about when Sub-Zero freezes you in Mid-Air....You just float in the fucking air, frozen. Idk, I always wanted the opponent to just fall onto the ground and break the ice, receiving damage. But no, you still float. Still I don't mind because it's always been that way, maybe one day I'll see it happen.

4- DLC, I never cared for this, the game already costs 60 fucking dollars, why should we pay extra or pre-order (which also costs extra) to receive things that should be in the game by default? This is bullshit and when a company cares more about making money than giving a good product, I kinda feel skeptical, the game better be good.


Those are my 4 rants, but the good things I have to say about this game are about 1,869,590,001...and a half. This game is going to ROCKKKK!!!
iHotaru Wrote:
I hate new users that just come out of know where and then after a few post they disappear


I believe those are called trolls
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02/10/2011 05:23 AM (UTC)
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I didn't get a chance to reply to that thread...about.....stuff. But I personally declare that the Thread of the Year so far.
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swindle
02/10/2011 09:30 PM (UTC)
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Maybe we trolls disappear because:

1. There are more posts about fighters boobs than actual gameplay.
2. "Marketing sucks" rants when we've been given a huge amount of info, video, and in-depth gameplay breakdown.
3. Supposed "high-level" gamers who did not attend the Pax or Brazil shows, and who still bitch that NRS won't let them "test" the engine. Don't make me laugh.
4. Bezou
5. Not one of you has had any idea to equal or even rival what we have seen in the actual game, but still whine about things sucking. No, it's not criticism. Criticism has an element of intelligent discussion. These are just complaints.
Guess what? A lot of people don't like you. Have you changed to meet or exceed their expectations? Obviously not.
You are just trolls who stuck around for 1000 posts.
Peace, nippleheads.

-swindle

oh, and heartoffire is drop-dead gorgeous. Keep hope alive, hotpants.sad
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02/11/2011 12:48 AM (UTC)
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swindle Wrote:
Maybe we trolls disappear because:

1. There are more posts about fighters boobs than actual gameplay.
2. "Marketing sucks" rants when we've been given a huge amount of info, video, and in-depth gameplay breakdown.
3. Supposed "high-level" gamers who did not attend the Pax or Brazil shows, and who still bitch that NRS won't let them "test" the engine. Don't make me laugh.
4. Bezou
5. Not one of you has had any idea to equal or even rival what we have seen in the actual game, but still whine about things sucking. No, it's not criticism. Criticism has an element of intelligent discussion. These are just complaints.
Guess what? A lot of people don't like you. Have you changed to meet or exceed their expectations? Obviously not.
You are just trolls who stuck around for 1000 posts.
Peace, nippleheads.

-swindle

oh, and heartoffire is drop-dead gorgeous. Keep hope alive, hotpants.sad


THIS MAN IS ON HIS GRIND.
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iHotaru
02/12/2011 03:43 AM (UTC)
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swindle Wrote:
Maybe we trolls disappear because:

1. There are more posts about fighters boobs than actual gameplay.
2. "Marketing sucks" rants when we've been given a huge amount of info, video, and in-depth gameplay breakdown.
3. Supposed "high-level" gamers who did not attend the Pax or Brazil shows, and who still bitch that NRS won't let them "test" the engine. Don't make me laugh.
4. Bezou
5. Not one of you has had any idea to equal or even rival what we have seen in the actual game, but still whine about things sucking. No, it's not criticism. Criticism has an element of intelligent discussion. These are just complaints.
Guess what? A lot of people don't like you. Have you changed to meet or exceed their expectations? Obviously not.
You are just trolls who stuck around for 1000 posts.
Peace, nippleheads.

-swindle

oh, and heartoffire is drop-dead gorgeous. Keep hope alive, hotpants.sad
Like seriously that shit pisses me off. How and the hell are you going to have zero views coming out of no where with a shitty sig. Then on top of that he will see them on for a week or two and then wont never see them again its fucking wierd.
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