Maybe not to you, but it is to some of us.

Wasn't this discussion had a few pages back?

Or was it years?

Y'know what else isn't important? Chocolate cake. No one needs to eat fucking cake to live.

But it's god damned delicious.

MK's storyline is cake. Just because we don't need it has nothing to do with whether or not we can love it and want it.

Did I blink, or was someone just caged?

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Okay, now I'm just hungry.

I need some faulking cake right now.

Yep that just happened! and damn it razor now u made me want sum chocolate cake ugh

I have absolutely no understanding of how these quotes relate.

Incidentally, I don't like chocolate cake, so I also have no understanding of the cake analogy. I am utterly incapable of translating one shorthand for something pleasurable for another. Besides, obviously cake isn't that important anyway. It's all about the plating up! Whooo! Fukk yeh! Three plate comboooo!!! Hardgore mature realism!!!

Why do people keep saying that this is a remake of MK1-MK3?
Anyway I'm glad to see that Mileena is in this. Too bad it probably won't come out for the Wii. I don't have the money to buy a PS3, or X-Box 360.

'Cause there's evidence.
Sure, okay, the leaked casting sheet could still turn out to be a fake or a swerve...but I REALLY doubt Ed's going to give an interview at E3 next week where he's like "Oh it's actually a totally new story, it's a total coincidence that every character and stage in the trailer is from MK1, 2, and 3 and they're even wearing throwback costume designs..."

Figured you were being sarcastic about MKDA's story and endings >.>

Granted, there's every reason to think the game is going to run the gauntlet of the series' storylines (beyond MK3 too, given some of the cameos). At the same time, there's nothing here to say it isn't just the usual humdrum pandering to nostalgia as the franchise moves forward. MKII's been the buzzword since Deception broke apart the progress of MKDA.

After that a fan video whipped people into a frenzy about something that barely resembles the MK IP, on top of the usual debates about whether or not the high point was MKII and if those heights have been reached, it stands to reason that they'd peddle out the familiar for a first look trailer.

It's not like we haven't seen these arenas refashioned in subsequent games, to say nothing of MK's classically inbred character design. It's not out of the question that they're going back to the well for the 'most involved story mode a fighting game's ever had,' but there's also no reason to think it isn't just more of the usual.


Oh... no. MK4's endings, with some selective snipping, pretty much gave us the canon transition. MKDA suggested the possibility of doing that cohesive finish with a couple of variables again, but was discarded.

Love or hate them, I think that's indifferent fact.

In other words, your theory is...

"Oh it's actually a totally new story, it's a total coincidence that every character and stage in the trailer is from MK1, 2, and 3 and they're even wearing throwback costume designs..."

Wouldn't be the first time... MKD, MKSM, MKA all did it, to varying degrees.
Lazily using designs from MKvsDC (used, and possibly unused DLC) isn't any more conspiratory than the usual cross-eyed design and work ethic of the MK team; particularly when they talk about MKII and responding to the fans desires.

However, I was being much less commital.
There's no reason to be confident either way. Kenshi, Li Mei, Kira, Taven and Daegon aren't in their MKII get-up. Of course there's every possibility they're moving forward. Of course there's every possibility they're going to incorporate the entire canon, or parts of it, into the story mode. There's just as much chance we're post-Armageddon and 'much has changed since the last Mortal Kombat tournament', or is that... not much?

Never mind the fact that tossing a bunch of excessively familiar details is a simple way to assert the faithful direction of the game (after widespread misdirection caused by a YouTube fan video), and leaves the new stuff to be revealed. It's not much different to dropping Armageddon's throwback stages (Subway, et al) on the fans, with a handful of the usual suspects confirmed. It just so happens this trailer is giving us more on the first look than usual. Maybe that means there's an abundance of content, maybe that means they're going back to the start.

Both ways have their equal arguments.
EDIT: Obviously there's also no reason to think it can't be both.

MKSM WAS a remake of MK2, so of course they all had their MK2 costumes on.

MKA used the MKDA and Deception costumes to save time because it was the same engine. And even then, every character that was a new addition like Kai and Reiko got a complete revamp in their primary, only alts were ever a throwback for the fans during the PS2 generation.

THIS, on the other hand, is a new engine, these outfits have been completely modeled fresh...and yet they ALL look like their MK2 and 3 clothes, just with new minor details i.e. the Johnny tattoo.

The team actually does design NEW costumes when the game is a NEW story. This is clearly not the case.
(And you and I both know Kira, Daegon, etc. being in the background is almost certainly just the Prison from MKD gimmick and isn't gonna be canon.)
But if you wanna take the "they haven't told us flat out what's going on yet and I don't want to end up being wrong and looking like an idiot" position, that's fine I guess. To me though, it's ridiculous at this point. There is such a thing as "blatantly obvious".

MKD and MKA were jam packed full of throwback material. That's fact.
Whatever keeps you warm at night is fine by me. I'd call it even odds.

In Deception, that's outfit's an alt, not a primary. I already covered the fact that alts were often throwbacks but primaries are always new stuff except in Armageddon where everything was reused for the returning ones.

... And was the main in MKA. I can't really tell if you have a point or are just in the mood to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. As if somehow the MK team magically haven't been banging the throwback drum every time they bring a game out and it magically confirms the bits you're ignoring haven't happened. Which is fine, if that's how you wanna roll.

Maybe Daegon and Taven are there for no reason, or maybe they'll be used in a game that covers the past, present, and future of storylines. You can draw a lot of plausible conclusions from the trailer. This isn't an argument to be had in the slightest.

If, But, Except... I'm potentially agreeing!
It's all up for grabs, at this point. Of course it is!

Im really gonna miss you Nitara! You actually had potential to be the best new character! But sorry to say that the MK team has run out of new and fresh ideas so they became lazy and decided to start all over again with the same old fighters! (Except for Mileena Im glad she returned :D)

Ugh, Im definately gonna buy the new game so I need to stop bitching, but I really was hoping a great new game that the MK team was gonna give us. A reboot was the last thing I wanted.

I just hope they at least have some new fighters but I strongly doubt that.

P.S. If your gonna reboot the whole series they should bring back all the fighters that died and give them another shot for a good story.

P.S.S Did anyone notice that Scorpion wasent seen in the trailer? Thats a first

My point is just that my evidence it's a remake is still way stronger than your evidence that it might not be.
Maybe said point got lost or convoluted solely because the way you talk is kinda stilted and unnatural, which makes arguing with you harder. Honestly, I know my way a thesaurus pretty well...but sometimes I'm just not sure what the hell your sentences say. It's like they're so complicated the ideas they're trying to convey got lost in the word-salad under a pile of croutons.

Dawww. Of course it isn't, silly. That perspective of the timestream is easily punctured by the mere presence of undermining qualities that simply may be of diminished consuquence. The odds are obviously even, but it's great to have a stubborn and obsessive antagonist back again, just the same. Wai! ^-^

Gotta love the theatre of it!

I'll be keen to see if/what they add to what we know at E3. They reall did dump a lot of stuff into the trailer, compared to what we're used to!

You're doing the word-salad thing on purpose just to mess with me, aren't you?

Missing the European sales, not to mention Asian ones outside Japan (Taiwan, South Korea)... EDIT: well what did you know, Tekken up to 5 has sold over 34 million copies and Europe is on average responsible for 50% of all sales.

"At this point, Europe accounts for over 50% of total sales. It's hard to say what the future holds, of course, but I think it's safe to say that no matter what era we're in, we're always going to need a genre of competitive, man-to-man games." Harada Katsuhiro

Though you have to give credit to MK vs DC, out of 1.8 million shipped, they bought 1.78 according to the above. That however means that 90% was the american sales record. If true, MK vs DC did not register in Europe.

I wonder if we'll ever get a true sequel to MKA.
Anyway the idea of retelling MK1-MK3 sounds cool. I just hope that they don't screw this up, like they did with MKSM.

Again, not every game was sold in every market. They're all sold in North America for sure though, so using NA sales figures only is the best way to determine a FAIR comparison of brand popularity.
Besides, the numbers probably look very similar, just lower for everybody because there's less gamers total in those countries.
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Didn't register? Or wasn't released in most countries? Midway simply does not have a presence in countries that don't predominantly speak English. I'm sure they have Tekken and SF but don't have MK at all in places like Italy and Spain.