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 •10/19/2010 07:20 AM (UTC) •
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MINION Wrote:
It's not just this that bothers me bro. Even before MKvsDCU came out that EMBARGO LIFTS TOMORROW thing, the blurry pic for that was yet again Scorpion. Everytime a game is released he's the face of Media. I mean I don't hate the character, I hate the spotlight he gets above all else.


What can you do, he's boon's favourite, and they're obviously trying to force him into the role of "the face of mortal kombat", whether that reflects the fans' vision or not.

Far as I'm concerned, they can get all of Scorpion's stuff out of the way first and let the more interesting characters come later.
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 •10/19/2010 07:25 AM (UTC) •
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another... scorpion... update. zzzzzzzzzz.
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 •10/19/2010 07:29 AM (UTC) •
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Scorpion1813 Wrote:
Raiden isn't going back in time, he's only warning his past self about Shao Kahn. Also, and this is a huge assumption here, that Raiden's message will reach himself during the first tournament possibly, or not long before it.

Scorpion and his clan were killed way before the tournament from MK1. So even though the timeline MAY get altered in some ways, I'm guessing there won't be any MAJOR changes.

Also, look at it this way: the original Sub Zero, while having powers of cryomancy, is hardly powerful enough to take on a full clan of ninja. I mean, the Lin Kuei and Shirai Ryu were rival clans for a long time and if it was easy enough that Sub Zero could take them out by himself, he would have done it long before he met Quan Chi.

Not to mention Quan Chi has the Brotherhood of Shadows under his command which is who I assume helped him destroy the yellow-clad clan. Again, Quan Chi wouldn't have been powerful enough by himself to take out a whole clan otherwise he would have just killed Scorpion and Sub zero by himself, and heck, even invaded Earthrealm by himself.


I always assumed it was believed that Sub-Zero led and attack on Scorpion's clan and personally slayed his family. I never imagined Subby taking down a whole clan by himself.
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And the only prescription..is moar Scorpion!
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 •10/19/2010 07:43 AM (UTC) •
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mortalsebastian Wrote:
I always assumed it was believed that Sub-Zero led and attack on Scorpion's clan and personally slayed his family. I never imagined Subby taking down a whole clan by himself.


But that still brings us back to the question as to why didn't they just do that before? If they managed to take out the whole clan in one attack? Only difference would have been Scorpion would be dead, but if Scorpion was powerful enough to make a difference he either wouldn't have died so easily when facing Sub Zero, Or he would have never gone on that mission in the first place (wasn't he Grandmaster by then anyway, so why DID he go on that mission? or was it yet more trickery my Quan Chi?).

Until we know more we can only speculate and assume certain things. But I'm not sure if they will go into much more detail other than "his clan and family were killed and he needs to get revenge on the person responsible". That is, unless Scorpion is given his own game, like MK Mythologies.
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 •10/19/2010 08:10 AM (UTC) •
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@ Vomit - The killing of Scorpion's family and clan at the hands of Quan Chi happened during MK:M (which is BEFORE MK1) so there is no way that part can be altered and that Sub-Zero is the murderer, this time. The change of timeline concerns MK1-MK3. Not before or after.
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 •10/19/2010 09:37 AM (UTC) •
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I can't help but think MKM and Scorpion's backstory are ready to be taken for granted and don't really need all that much more elaboration. That's not to say playing an adventure game from Scorpion's perspective wouldn't be very fun, but in the short term, it's not a story we really need elaborated on.

Quan Chi hired he and Sub-Zero to undertake the same mission.
Sub-Zero killed Scorpion. Quan Chi took out the Shirai-Ryu on behalf of the Lin Kuei. We didn't learn these details until MKM and MK4, which were released roughly in tandem. An uncomplicated fact that seems to be maintained in the new game for the sake of presentation, but is clearly alluded to with the reference to Quan Chi's involvement.

You can find Scorpion's MK4 ending and ending clips from MKM on YouTube with a quick few searches. If Raiden time travel plots are going to alter any details at all, it doesn't seem like this will be one of them.
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 •10/19/2010 09:56 AM (UTC) •
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So this time Quan Chi resurrected scorpion to kill sub-zero (quan chi's enemy since mythologies) and this time he made him believe the murder of his family was elder sub intead of young subby? Or were his family and clan slain before MK1 in the original game?
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 •10/19/2010 10:37 AM (UTC) •
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Lokheit Wrote:
So this time Quan Chi resurrected scorpion to kill sub-zero (quan chi's enemy since mythologies) and this time he made him believe the murder of his family was elder sub intead of young subby? Or were his family and clan slain before MK1 in the original game?

Both Scorpion, and we as an audience, were under the impression Sub-Zero was responsible until MK4 and MKM came out. Quan Chi was actually responsible, but neither we nor Scorpion knew that. Which is all this bio video likely indicates. You could surmise that Quan Chi is the reason Scorpion had the wrong idea in the first place.
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 •10/19/2010 11:02 AM (UTC) •
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Same old shit...
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 •10/19/2010 11:15 AM (UTC) •
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Grimm Wrote:
Same old shit...


Think off it as cool, we get such movies for ALL characters.

And i'm sure they dare much more otherthings with less popular characters, scorpion is much of a doomed first sheep of the herd, they don't dare to take big steps or risks with this character.

I'm happy too see scorpion first, now my curiosity for more is stimulated!
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 •10/19/2010 11:57 AM (UTC) •
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I can only hope every character gets this sort of treatment, but I have to admit I'm not going to hold my breath on it. Remember MKA bios? MKD unique round recover animations?
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 •10/19/2010 12:29 PM (UTC) •
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~Crow~ Wrote:
The most popular character is usually the one PR markets.


Boon has stated repeatedly that Scorpion is his favorite. Meat and/or Mokap could beat Scorpion in a popularity contest but Boon will still cram Scorpion down our throats since its his favorite character.

I wonder if there would be as much of an uproar now if Scorpion and Sub-Zero were left out of a game.
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 •10/19/2010 01:07 PM (UTC) •
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While Scorpion is Boon's fave, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason they are using him to market the franchise.

It's most likely due to the fact he is the most recognizable MK character out of the entire roster! You know, appealing to the masses and all that.
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 •10/19/2010 01:10 PM (UTC) •
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Scorpion1813 Wrote:
While Scorpion is Boon's fave, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason they are using him to market the franchise.

It's most likely due to the fact he is the most recognizable MK character out of the entire roster! You know, appealing to the masses and all that.


A poll of 68,000 people says otherwise.

Not that massive amounts of Sub-Zero related propaganda would be much better I guess.
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 •10/19/2010 01:19 PM (UTC) •
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Scorpion1813 Wrote:
While Scorpion is Boon's fave, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason they are using him to market the franchise.

It's most likely due to the fact he is the most recognizable MK character out of the entire roster! You know, appealing to the masses and all that.


A poll of 68,000 people says otherwise.

Not that massive amounts of Sub-Zero related propaganda would be much better I guess.


Whauw, poor Sonya and Kano... I'd have thought they were higher on the list. I can't fathom that Liu Kang is actually higher up than those two.
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 •10/19/2010 02:11 PM (UTC) •
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Love the way he says Fatality.. hopefully it remains that way ingame.
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 •10/19/2010 02:51 PM (UTC) •
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Lokheit Wrote:
So this time Quan Chi resurrected scorpion to kill sub-zero (quan chi's enemy since mythologies) and this time he made him believe the murder of his family was elder sub intead of young subby? Or were his family and clan slain before MK1 in the original game?

This time?

It's been implied for years Quan Chi was responsible for Scorpion's resurrection and framed the Lin Kuei for destroying the Shirai Ryu.
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 •10/19/2010 03:48 PM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Whauw, poor Sonya and Kano... I'd have thought they were higher on the list. I can't fathom that Liu Kang is actually higher up than those two.


Interesting story, Ed Boon once explained that the reason Sonya and Kano were left out of MK2 is because they checked the stats on MK1 arcade machines and those two were the least played characters.
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 •10/19/2010 04:05 PM (UTC) •
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Well back in the 90ties when I was a little girl I first heared of Scorpion, Rayden, Sub-Zero, Sonya, Johnny Cage and Kano's heartrip and then about Liu Kang.

In French we have little love for Liu Kang it seems, his fatality in MK1 was pretty stupid aswel....

This poll is all about MK1 it seems so I expected Sonya to be much higher than Liu Kang, Kano I don't know about, he's one of the least favorite characters from mk1 till 3 for most people... I actually like him very much.
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 •10/19/2010 04:53 PM (UTC) •
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OrangatangKang Wrote:
Oh my God! Thats so fucking cool how Shao Kahn say Fatality! Like a real Mad Man.


Yeah, and the music is epic too!!
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 •10/19/2010 10:24 PM (UTC) •
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fedegita Wrote:
What can you do, he's boon's favourite, and they're obviously trying to force him into the role of "the face of mortal kombat", whether that reflects the fans' vision or not.

Far as I'm concerned, they can get all of Scorpion's stuff out of the way first and let the more interesting characters come later.


How much later are we talking? We are already in Game 9, 18 years later and it has not changed. For once, would love to see Raiden or Sub-Zero as the face of Mortal Kombat. Hell even Quan Chi.
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 •10/19/2010 11:39 PM (UTC) •
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Lokheit Wrote:
So this time Quan Chi resurrected scorpion to kill sub-zero (quan chi's enemy since mythologies) and this time he made him believe the murder of his family was elder sub intead of young subby? Or were his family and clan slain before MK1 in the original game?

This time?

It's been implied for years Quan Chi was responsible for Scorpion's resurrection and framed the Lin Kuei for destroying the Shirai Ryu.


I didn't express it correctly. I meant that this time what he do after resurrecting him was telling him that elder subby killed his family when in the original timeline he told him it was young subby, scorpion just hated subby enough for killing him on mythologies to need more excuses. I suppose that it's to ensure that he kills the man who opposed to quan chi and shinnok during mythologies.

I think that maybe we are seeing netherealm characters like sareena and quan chi in this game, and maybe some of the trilogy cast will be replaced by them.
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 •10/19/2010 11:40 PM (UTC) •
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Lokheit Wrote:
when in the original timeline he told him it was young subby


That's not accurate. Quan didn't tell Scorpion that until MK4. Before MK4, he told Scorpion it was the older Subby. He changed the story in MK4 so that Scorpion would go after the other one, who he'd previously vowed not to fight.
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 •10/20/2010 03:29 AM (UTC) •
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Im sort of confused...

I thought older sub only killed Scorpion... and THEN after MK3 and for MK4 Quan Chi killed the clan and family to get rid of Young Sub...

btw... this retcon totally underminds Scorpion's coolness...
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