Scorpion and Sub-Zero story mode question

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Well if I may borrow a phrase: it's not my fault if you can't say what you mean.
And no, race and species are totally not the same. You see, the reason racism is dumb is it's people hating one another because of a trivial difference like skin color, when people are really all the same in all the ways that count. A human and a bipedal lizard man actually are 2 completely different things.
And so what if he eats people. Granted, it sucks for the guy getting eaten, of course. But what if his species actually evolved as a natural predator of humans? Then he's just doing what he's designed to do.
Crocodiles and big pythons kill and eat people all the time. Are they "evil" too?
And no, race and species are totally not the same. You see, the reason racism is dumb is it's people hating one another because of a trivial difference like skin color, when people are really all the same in all the ways that count. A human and a bipedal lizard man actually are 2 completely different things.
And so what if he eats people. Granted, it sucks for the guy getting eaten, of course. But what if his species actually evolved as a natural predator of humans? Then he's just doing what he's designed to do.
Crocodiles and big pythons kill and eat people all the time. Are they "evil" too?


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"Race" can be either another word for ethnicity OR another word for "species", i.e. "the human race". Frankly, I think that the phrase "speciesism" supposedly needs to exist is a bit...what was it you called me a page or two back, pedantic?
That you even need to ask this tells me that discussing the definition of good and evil with you is a complete waste of my time.
You have a real problem with telling the difference between sentient beings and non-sentient ones. Reptile knows the difference between right and wrong (in every game except DA where he literally went retarded) and chooses to, even sometimes enjoys, killing others without just cause.
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
And so what if he eats people.
And so what if he eats people.
That you even need to ask this tells me that discussing the definition of good and evil with you is a complete waste of my time.
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
Crocodiles and big pythons kill and eat people all the time. Are they "evil" too?
Crocodiles and big pythons kill and eat people all the time. Are they "evil" too?
You have a real problem with telling the difference between sentient beings and non-sentient ones. Reptile knows the difference between right and wrong (in every game except DA where he literally went retarded) and chooses to, even sometimes enjoys, killing others without just cause.
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In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.


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At this point it sadly doesn't matter anymore. Scorpion is no long an interesting character. He's just a stupid rage monster now. They had a chance to develop him in MK2011 and they blew it.

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Venkman28 Wrote:
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
UM, I remember that scene happening differently. I remember Scorpion saying "You will die as he did" signifying that he wanted to fight Sub-Zero. He never told Sub-Zero or even acted to Sub-Zero like he didn't want to fight him.

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Scar_Subby Wrote:
UM, I remember that scene happening differently. I remember Scorpion saying "You will die as he did" signifying that he wanted to fight Sub-Zero. He never told Sub-Zero or even acted to Sub-Zero like he didn't want to fight him.
Venkman28 Wrote:
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
UM, I remember that scene happening differently. I remember Scorpion saying "You will die as he did" signifying that he wanted to fight Sub-Zero. He never told Sub-Zero or even acted to Sub-Zero like he didn't want to fight him.
AFTER the new Sub-Zero made it clear that he was looking for a fight, sure. Before that he was all "who the hell are you supposed to be?" I think you're the one who wasn't paying attention.
And Razor, acknowledging that there is less difference between 2 humans of different races than there is between a human and a fucking lizard, is not being "pedantic".
And speaking of words you don't understand, once again the word you're looking for is sapient. That's what human level intelligence means. Sentient simply means being aware of self and using one's senses to perceive the world. Reptiles ARE sentient. Sapient, no.
And yes, I know the difference between sapient and non-sapient beings. (more than you do, apparently) The point is in this case, I really don't care. I'm assuming you won't go so far as to say that a crocodile eating a human is an act of evil (although you never know, you might surprise me here). But are you saying that if the crocodile was sapient (your favorite word), all of a sudden it would be?! Would the croc magically be not a predator all of a sudden? That's ridiculous.
Or maybe the non-sapient real life croc IS doing something wrong, but that's actually ok only because it doesn't know any better? That's even MORE ridiculous!


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You think animals are "self-aware". Hmm...
I...choose to bow out on going down this particular rabbit hole any further. Your perspective on "good and evil" has already dismayed me enough to know that I don't want to learn any more of your beliefs on philosophy, zoology, or word definitions.
The bottom line on "is Reptile evil?" is that morality is a societal construct that applies to any creature that can tell right from wrong. Animals cannot do this. Reptile can. He has been known to kill without coercion, impaired judgment, or any indication of regret/repentance.
I...choose to bow out on going down this particular rabbit hole any further. Your perspective on "good and evil" has already dismayed me enough to know that I don't want to learn any more of your beliefs on philosophy, zoology, or word definitions.
The bottom line on "is Reptile evil?" is that morality is a societal construct that applies to any creature that can tell right from wrong. Animals cannot do this. Reptile can. He has been known to kill without coercion, impaired judgment, or any indication of regret/repentance.

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Venkman28 Wrote:
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
In going back to what was the topic, it was pretty obvious to Scorpion this wasn't the Sub Zero who killed him. It seems like after killing Bi Han and feeling ashamed of it, he went back to Hell but is not quite at peace.
I mean Scorpion told Kuai he was not Sub Zero and he didn't feel like fighting him. After he got captured, Scorpion just shrugged it off.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
I don't agree with that statement.
If you actually followed the series since MK1 of 1993. Then you have no business telling him to let it go. Thats was TWENTY YEARS of history in the making. It's not something you can easily let go.
Venkman28 Wrote:
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
Razor, as much as I agree with you on some things in regards to the plot of MK9, you just have to let it go. What happened in the old timeline doesn't matter, the writers have shown that. This is an alternate timeline.
If the writers don't care about their past work, this game's story would have sucked harder than a cheap whore. Also what happened in the old timeline is what's trying to be prevented to happen AGAIN in this new timeline, so obviously, past material plays a crucial role in this timeline.
It wouldn't make sense to just throw it all away because the story is getting a make-over.
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