So why only Sonya and Johnny Cage? (spoilers)
Well, queve was happy, but pretty much everyone else I know wasn't happy that everyone died. So why? Why were Sonya and Johnny Cage spared? Is Vogel showing favoritism. (Which I suspect since he stated he disliked Cage's MKT death only for him to do it to 10 other characters thus proving him a hypocrite.)

Honestly, I'm still mad. As far as I can tell, there is NO REASON. None whatsoever. If Stryker and Cybernetic Abomination can die from their blows then as far as I'm concerned, Sonya and Cage should've died too. Hell, Sindel kicked Sonya hard enough that I thought they would say her neck snapped. Why was that not fatal and yet Stryker and Sub-Zero's blows were? It's bullshit is what it is.

So anyway, what was the reason? Quite frankly, I'm not happy that far more deserving characters now have to be rescued from service to Shinnok so Cage and Sonya can get spotlight time when there was NOTHING in the story that made me think these two were so important to spare. Nothing at all. It's like they just pulled two random names out of a hat and said: "Who won't we kill? ..Johnny Cage and Sonya. Okay."

Not that I dislike them, I just find it unfair.
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09/28/2011 08:41 PM (UTC)
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It's probably gonna set up something big for the new games story mode. That's all I can think of.
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09/28/2011 08:43 PM (UTC)
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Why shouldn't they be the main heroes? I'm so tired of Liu Kang being the hero of majority of the games, this community would be too pissed off if Sub-Zero was the main hero because god forbid Sub-Zero being a main hero since there's so many "Ninjas" in the series plus of how much he's gotten the spotlight.

Kitana had enough going on for her, it would be weird to see Jade as a main hero... Stryker just gets dirt thrown in his face, Smoke would be too wimpy, and the rest... blah with the rest.


I like the change in direction they have with thees characters. I like that Cage is now taken more seriously and that he's got up to the point where he can be considered as a main hero. Even though I'm not too keen with Sonya... well at least a female character is sharing a spotlight now rather than being pushed aside.
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09/28/2011 08:46 PM (UTC)
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Well not that I'm keen on entertaining this notion, but I think Johnny Cage and Sonya were chosen because of them not being the most obvious heroes to live and let's be honest, everyone expects Liu Kang, Sub-Zero, or Kung Lao to always come to the rescue, Johnny and Sonya have always been popular, they just never got to be as prominent and lead the heroes, this is their chance to do that.

Johnny Cage's bio and ending have indicated that they have grand plans for Johnny Cage in the future and Sonya is the most team oriented of the group in my opinion, fiercely loyal and strong, she's an emotional character, yet she's tough as nails.

As much as I don't like the death especially Jade, Stryker, and Smoke because this was the game where they all got 3 times cooler, but I think out of all the heroes, Johnny and Sonya were the best suited for their divergent personalities, new backgrounds, their team oriented nature, and the fact they've never taken center stage before as true leaders, I'm excited to see Sonya commanding an army of Earthrealm soldiers against Shinnok's dark hordes or Johnny coming to the aid of Kai and recruiting him to fight alongside Earth.
I suspect we may even see the first truly developed MK romance between Sonya and Cage as he helps her cope with her grief and they've been developing their relationship as is, that's another option.


Everyone treats Sonya and Johnny as if they're underserving jokes, but I highly beg to differ and let's be honest, if they would have spared Stryker and Jade, people would have had a similar problem with it.


Even if they spared Liu Kang and Kitana, people would have still been mad overall.


I'm not mad they spared Johnny or Sonya, I'm excited to see them do something monumental next game, and if Kai shows up with Capoeira to help them I'm going to be root for them even more.

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09/28/2011 08:48 PM (UTC)
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Hopefully none of those two become the main hero. They should be support characters for Kai, just as they were for Liu Kang.

I don't see anything about those two that warrants them having the spotlight Liu Kang has.
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09/28/2011 08:56 PM (UTC)
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1) NRS has been setting johnny up with a ton of potential (his freaky mystical background and his sweet ending)

2) sonya and johnny relationship

3) liu will most likely be revived, but since he hates raiden he'll probably go to edenia
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09/28/2011 08:59 PM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
I don't see anything about those two that warrants them having the spotlight Liu Kang has.


Why should Liu Kang get the spotlight? Nothing tells me he deserves it more than characters that never even got a good chance in being a main hero. Like Espio said, Cage and Sonya are looked at as jokes, I admit, I look at Sonya as a freaking joke because she is one in my perspective. But now she's getting a chance to be likeable more by being one of the two characters that gets spared by Sindel's brutal attack and Raiden's clumsiness.

Liu Kang is always the hero but he has some of the dullest stories in this game, why did they give him the winning spotlight rather than the other characters? This time, I'm glad that its not him who survived.
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09/28/2011 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
daryui Wrote:
I don't see anything about those two that warrants them having the spotlight Liu Kang has.


Why should Liu Kang get the spotlight? Nothing tells me he deserves it more than characters that never even got a good chance in being a main hero. Like Espio said, Cage and Sonya are looked at as jokes, I admit, I look at Sonya as a freaking joke because she is one in my perspective. But now she's getting a chance to be likeable more by being one of the two characters that gets spared by Sindel's brutal attack and Raiden's clumsiness.

Liu Kang is always the hero but he has some of the dullest stories in this game, why did they give him the winning spotlight rather than the other characters? This time, I'm glad that its not him who survived.


Sonya and Johnny Cage are two characters that I feel, are better suited to other things than attempting to lead a group whereas Liu Kang is truly capable.

Johnny is a comic relief character, who happens to be too ignorant and Sonya's very much a hot-head and will no doubt cause more trouble than it's worth.



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09/28/2011 09:17 PM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
Hopefully none of those two become the main hero. They should be support characters for Kai, just as they were for Liu Kang.


Why is Kai more worthy than them? I'm a Kai fan, but he hasn't done anything more noteworthy than them, I hope they actually share the spotlight, I think the most interesting stories have more than one major hero.


daryui Wrote:
I don't see anything about those two that warrants them having the spotlight Liu Kang has.


I don't see why not, they're all some of the world's strongest warriors and have been around since the beginning.

Liu Kang in all honesty is not any better than them, chosen one or not I consider the original heroes on equal footing even though Liu Kang is boring in my eyes,.

At least with Johnny we get an actual entertaining and interesting hero with a past even he knows nothing about as opposed to Liu Kang's vanilla personality overall. Comedy relief mixed with his newfound badassery would be great to see.

Sonya is also more interesting than him, she has more personality and intrigue than Liu Kang too, at least Sonya's emotions shine through in her portrayal, especially this game, not to mention a female main hero I think is a great thing and she has never had such a great opportunity.



Liu Kang is the main hero in nearly every game, yet he never evolves, never does anything interesting, it's someone else's turn and I'm excited.

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09/28/2011 09:28 PM (UTC)
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Espio872 Wrote:
daryui Wrote:
Hopefully none of those two become the main hero. They should be support characters for Kai, just as they were for Liu Kang.


Why is Kai more worthy than them? I'm a Kai fan, but he hasn't done anything more noteworthy than them, I hope they actually share the spotlight, I think the most interesting stories have more than one major hero.


daryui Wrote:
I don't see anything about those two that warrants them having the spotlight Liu Kang has.


I don't see why not, they're all some of the world's strongest warriors and have been around since the beginning.

Liu Kang in all honesty is not any better than them, not to mention he's boring this was the first game I moderately took an interest in him and it was at the end of story mode with his Raiden confrontation.

At least with Johnny we get an actual entertaining and interesting hero with a past even he knows nothing about as opposed to Liu Kang's vanilla personality overall. Comedy relief mixed with his newfound badassery would be great to see.

Sonya is also more interesting than him, she has more personality and intrigue than Liu Kang too, at least Sonya's emotions shine through in her portrayal, especially this game, not to mention a female main hero I think is a great thing and she has never had such a great opportunity.



Liu Kang is the main hero in nearly every game, yet he never evolves, never does anything interesting, it's someone else's turn and I'm excited.



Comedic or not, Liu Kang has an advantage over the two. He's the one who has prepared the otherworldy threats and he understood what's at stake.

Sonya hasn't been shown as a leader, but I doubt she'd make a good one. Let alone, a decent. Cage..is cage. I don't really find his comedy ot be that great aside from one line in the story mode. Other than that, I don't care for him.

I never found Cage or Sonya that interesting, and I still don't. But to each their own.

And I always thought Kang was interesting enough. Sure he could use more twists, but he got hte job done.
Y'know, Liu Kang WASN'T the main hero of this story, nor was he for Deadly Alliance, Deception or Armageddon so please stop that. Raiden was the main hero of this story.. (for better or for worse)
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09/28/2011 09:40 PM (UTC)
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1. Dont worry...Cage died in MKT yet...and here you got it again...its for sure they will do anything to bring them back again...even if that means to include the DRAGON BALLS in MK plot. LOL

2. is it possible you can spoil anybody yet???
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09/28/2011 09:49 PM (UTC)
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I think that part way through development they noticed that Cage was by far the most likeable character and the best part of Story mode and decided to keep him, Sonya adds to his character as well.

I'd actually like to see them as the "main heros" of the next game.

Hell, Give them there own Adventure game ala Shaolin Monks.
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09/28/2011 09:57 PM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
Comedic or not, Liu Kang has an advantage over the two. He's the one who has prepared the otherworldy threats and he understood what's at stake.

Sonya hasn't been shown as a leader, but I doubt she'd make a good one. Let alone, a decent. Cage..is cage. I don't really find his comedy ot be that great aside from one line in the story mode. Other than that, I don't care for him.

I never found Cage or Sonya that interesting, and I still don't. But to each their own.

And I always thought Kang was interesting enough. Sure he could use more twists, but he got hte job done.


Liu Kang's advantage disappeared after MK1, after that Sonya and Johnny knew just as much about otherworldly threats and what was at stake, any of the three seem like suitable leaders to me.

With to each his own, how can I not agreesmile

I think Liu Kang, Sonya, and Johnny are equally deserving, I just want my main heroes to be doing something interesting and growing as characters each game, that's all.
ProudNintendofan Wrote:
Y'know, Liu Kang WASN'T the main hero of this story, nor was he for Deadly Alliance, Deception or Armageddon so please stop that. Raiden was the main hero of this story.. (for better or for worse)


He was the main hero for four games MK1,MK2,MK3, and MK4, I'm not saying this for the sake of hating on Liu Kang, it's a fact, there's nothing for me to stop, I didn't say THIS game. If you read what I wrote. 50% of the canon games being the main hero isn't a tiny amount of main hero portrayals, to my knowledge. I want Liu Kang to get development and intriguing plots, if anything I'm supporting an improvement of his character.

But since it's not about Liu Kang, I'm going to get back to talking about Sonya and Cagesmile
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09/28/2011 10:31 PM (UTC)
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I think Cage is going to sort of "grow up" by the next game and become the champion type character. Sonya will probably recruit Kenshi and Cyrax. I can see something like JC being sent to Seido to realize his true potential, while Kai and Bo Rai Cho "keep his place warm" while he's in intensive training, happening. (Oddly worded, I know grin). Johnny should show up towards the end of the game when things are looking bleak, and kick Shinnok's ass. Oh, and Liu Kang IS (or was) more adept than the others, skill and power wise (although, it appears Johnny Cage rivals him in shear power). smile
Yeah, maybe that's what they are going for with Cage but my point is to build up Johnny Cage at everyone else's expense is really unfair.
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ZeroSymbolic7188
09/28/2011 11:20 PM (UTC)
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Ive already explained to you all that the first MK was the only real tournament and all subsequent games are films staring Johnny Cage.

Its in his MK1 ending.
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09/28/2011 11:28 PM (UTC)
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The only thing I can think of for leaving just those two is some lame romance...

Hopefully, that will never happen.
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CyberDemon13
09/29/2011 12:47 AM (UTC)
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Interesting thread gets (sort of) neglected...

Discuss, people; I want to read some opinions/ideas! wow
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09/29/2011 12:52 AM (UTC)
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CyberDemon13 Wrote:
Interesting thread gets (sort of) neglected...

Discuss, people; I want to read some opinions/ideas! wow




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09/29/2011 12:54 AM (UTC)
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Does it really matter? It's not like everyone who died in this game are going to stay dead. We all know that they're going to come back. I don't think Boon is brave enough to kill off such a big portion of his roster and have them stay that way. He'd never be forgiven by the fans... he killed off some the most popular and/or important characters. It's simple: No one stays dead in MK.

Not that I'd have a problem with Johnny and Sonya getting a large portion of spotlight. Way over due in my opinion. Honestly, I don't think people give these two enough credit. Then again, they've never been front and center for anyone to see they might deserve it either. So this would be a good thing IMO. Kang needs a break and Kung Lao is a bit too arrogant to be put in the role of main hero for my taste.

Just my .02 cents. To each their own in the opinion department though.
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09/29/2011 01:07 AM (UTC)
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Well we have Raiden, Sonya, and Johnny Cage. Scorpion and Kano are still alive and Liu Kang and Noob Saibot's deaths were a little more ambiguous than everyone else's and it can be argued (and I do argue) that they are still alive.

So everyone who knows the Mortal Kombat story knows that Noob is the original Sub-Zero. So assuming that those two are still alive, we've got the original cast of MK1 characters. Kano, Liu Kang, Raiden, Johnny Cage, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Sonya according to the techno syndrome song.

Of course, I'll only argue that until the next game comes out and I can say I was right or wrong.

...Come to think of it, we still have Goro and Reptile, and I guess Shang Tsung's death was a little bit ambiguous. He wasn't in the netherrealm, so either his soul is still stuck with sindel's dead soul or it went somewhere else.
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09/29/2011 01:10 AM (UTC)
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johnny1up Wrote:
Well we have Raiden, Sonya, and Johnny Cage. Scorpion and Kano are still alive and Liu Kang and Noob Saibot's deaths were a little more ambiguous than everyone else's and it can be argued (and I do argue) that they are still alive.

So everyone who knows the Mortal Kombat story knows that Noob is the original Sub-Zero. So assuming that those two are still alive, we've got the original cast of MK1 characters. Kano, Liu Kang, Raiden, Johnny Cage, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Sonya according to the techno syndrome song.

Of course, I'll only argue that until the next game comes out and I can say I was right or wrong.

...Come to think of it, we still have Goro and Reptile, and I guess Shang Tsung's death was a little bit ambiguous. He wasn't in the netherrealm, so either his soul is still stuck with sindel's dead soul or it went somewhere else.


I'm guessing that shang somehow escaped sindel at the last second and possesed some random person.
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09/29/2011 01:18 AM (UTC)
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It would be cool if they made use of Shang's bio, with his soul being tethered to Shao Kahn; so after Kahn's death, Shang was released; or something to that effect. smile
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09/29/2011 01:18 AM (UTC)
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I'm HOPING that the reason they stopped and said "Johnny and Sonya live" is that they wanted to give them a chance to shine... They've always been "the other two".... They were the two other good guys in MK1, both got shafted (mk2 for sonya, mk3 for johnny), and have always been supporting castmembers. And even look at the movie... they were still playing second fiddle.

So here's hoping that they wanted to give the old guard a chance to step up.

But... in saying that... given my ill-faith in the writing staff. .. they probably DID just decide at random... And that it's pure luck that when they were storyboarding, they decided Sonya's kick to the face wasn't as lethal as Strykers face being mooshed in...
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