Because people will bitch if the main heroe was a "Ninja" >_>

Out of two,I think,Johnny will benefit more from this situation.If done right,he can become the "go-to" guy who won't be looked as a joke anymore. I still want him to maintain that humor that he has,but to a lesser degree,showing his more serious,but at the same time,still joking character.

I TOTALLY disliked Sonya's ending in MK9,I hope it never happens,out of all characters,Sonya is the strongest character that won't break out of grieving for her friends.I NEVER pictured her like that and never will.Sure,she can be saddened by the loss of friends,but as a military soldier,she should be tough and while Jax is out,I think,she should form OIA and recruit Kenshi and Cyrax(if they want to repeat MK DA route) and be the LEADER of that group,not Jax.

Since Sektor is Lin Kuei Grandmaster now (I am pretty sure his ending will be canon),make him want to dominate throughout the Earth (since he is much more ambitious and power hungry than his father). This will start confrontations between Sektor and Sonya (like in MKA,it is Tekunin and Special Forces,one of the good things that came out of that game).

And WHEN Sub-Zero will try to retake Lin Kuei from Sektor (I think it will happen in future games again),make Sonya help him out. See,I ALWAYS thought from the old timeline,that the only ones Sub-Zerowas keeping in touch with from Earth heroes are Raiden and Special Forces(I don't remember correctly,but in MKDA Sonya visited Sub-Zero in his new Lin Kuei Temple in Arctica). In MKvsDC and this game,Sub-Zero AGAIN interacts MOSTLY with Sonya and Jax. I think,NRS wants to "bond" ice warrior with Sonya,making them close true allies. I will like that,because outside of the main events of the games I never saw Earth heroes interact with each other,only with the closest ones (for example,Liu Kang and Kung Lao; Sonya and Jax; Sub-Zero and Smoke). I am ALL for more relationship developments between characters,that is what makes them interesting.

Damn,this game made me love Nightwolf SO MUCH! A pity he is underground,I wish he replaces Raiden one day as a Protector of Earthrealm. I know many will argue about it,especially when we have Fujin and Liu Kang(I gotta admit,Liu's and Shang Tsung's endings made me to think about interesting plot ),but Nightwolf just showed me in this game what a great leader he is.Yeah,of course you will argue he couldn't save others,but at least HE was the one who killed the BITCH and he saved or tried to save some of his teammates from the death during the battle (for example,Smoke from Sektor and Kitana from her crazy momma). He is just full of potential for me,Obi-Wan Kenobi type of character.

I doubt people would be that mad, Sub-Zero's one of the most popular characters in the series and one of its most iconic.

If Johnny Cage didn't survive, I would have chosen Sub-Zero as his replacement, he's also a character that has never been a main(as in lead) hero and I would support his ascension to that role, I don't use him much. but I think he would be deserving.


The most important thing to take from this situation is that when you have 10 people die and 2 survive, no matter who you choose tons of people are going to be upset regardless.

I don't agree,Sub-Zero,as Garlador once said,is "Batman" of Mortal Kombat.He is always doing the most dangerous and hard job (going intel into Kahn's forces,trying to stop Quan Chi and Noob Saibot from erupting soulnado),while giving spotlight to some "Superman"(Raiden,Liu Kang,etc).I think he just needs to always help the Earth forces,but not taking the spotlight,it will ruin his attractiveness as a vigilante. He just needs to be "the guy who is always there when needed but disappears when it is said and done,because he doesn't feel comfortable around good guys",like it is stated in his MKvsDC ending.

It suits his character,because,as we know,he was Lin Kuei warrior,who are killing people and raised not to be social around others except,MAYBE,their own clan members. His darkness in his soul and anti-social type of character CAN'T make him a main hero,because he is not able to socialize with other heroes.

Just make his own storyline,while he is periodically visited by one of other members of "Justice League"(as I said in previous post,Sonya could be this "Flash" or WHOEVER visits his "Batcave" to check on him,how he is doing or when,sometimes,she needs his help in HER matter).I hope you guys get the point. If you think about it,besides Raiden,Sub-Zero was only MAINLY contacting with Jax and Sonya first in MKvsDC,then in MK 2011. I think we are getting some hints at some future relationship between these two separate factions of MK lore. It could be interesting though and make sense,but I dunno,maybe I am overthinking.

Ok...why the hell should freakin Kai, of all people, jump over Cage and Sonya in the food chain out of nowhere?

Cage and Sonya are originals and 2 of MK's more popular characters. Kai is neither popular nor has he ever done anything interesting in his few appearances. And storywise, he's a rookie *in-universe* too.

Kai should be the Kung Lao of MK10- skilled but not the "champion;" that should be Johnny.

Maybe he should be a youngin' undergoing training with Bo Rai Cho to become the eventual successor to Liu Kang.

Or another scenario, as I posted earlier, could be that Kai is just a placeholder while Johnny is away in Seido, honing his power.

They survived because they are sex-bombs, awesome, very popular, iconic, badasses, and way too sexy to be left outside the MK bubble. That's why.

...and Sonya's boobs might have something to do with it too. Just saying.



In all seriousness, Johnny Cage and Sonya are too of the most popular and iconic characters of the series. They've been present since the very first game and they are both known to be two of the most powerful and lovable Chosen Warriors. It also helps that they are favorites of the MK Team and top "poster characters" when it comes to promoting the game and representing the name of "Mortal Kombat" along side other current poster characters (Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Raiden and now Mileena).

I'm glad to see the fans rooting for them and supporting them both. I made a similar thread a while ago and it gathered the same positive reaction:

Johnny & Sonya...Champions or Victims?

So, what's so "unfair" about them surviving? Why are they "less deserving" than other characters when they both have been, since the beginning, significant additions to the overall MK Universe (even though Johnny just got his development thanks to MKArmageddon)?



It's not like they chose two survivors that don't make sense at all or that have a poor level of popularity and recognition among fans and outsiders. Sonya and Johnny (even with his long story of "no story development" up till MKA) have a lot of PROS going for them. They make perfect sense! I'm not saying they make more sense than everyone else, no, but, thanks to what they've been in the past and what they are in the present, they simply make perfect sense. Just as much as other worthy characters who could have survived, but, they didn't.

Sonya is pretty much "the bridge" between Earth and all the other realms. She's a main leader in her field and her position means a great deal for Earth's protection. She's always been significant and reliable even though she's never been "deeply involved" against one of the "main villains" of the game (like the majority of the most popular characters in the game). We've been shown and told numerous times about Sonya's loyalty, heart, soul, emotional side, and potential. She's a rich and emotional character. Hopefully they will finally take a more drastic approach to her story and develop her greatly for the next game.

She's just as fit as Sub-Zero or Liu Kang and way more fit than some like Kung Lao and Scorpion as a main representative of the heroes and of the game. She's always been, anyways.

Also, take note that Sonya and Johnny are pretty much the only two characters who never loose hope or faith in Raiden. They stand right beside him till the very end. Meanwhile, everyone else is hating on him and getting angry with him, questioning his decisions, etc. Despite Raiden's screw ups and all that jazz, they are presented as the only two who he can actually rely on and trust. I think the glorious Nightwolf is another one, but, his position is quite different from that of Liu, Sonya, Johnny, etc.

Johnny is extremely interesting to discuss and quite remarkable. He went from being "just the comic-relief" and a "50/50" kind of guy to something much much greater and serious. He is once again, pretty much, one of the most popular and beloved characters in MK9. Sure, he was popular before, but, he's gathered back quite a huge fan base thanks to the latest game (Shaolin Monks and MKA get tons of credit as well). Haters everywhere have admitted their change of heart when it comes to Mr. Cage.

He's always been special because of his status as a Chosen Warrior, sadly, that was pretty much it for most games. That's all he had going on for him. However, MKA really helped to change everything (one of the few good things about that game) with a huge BANG. We learned new things about him in that game, he was shown in a completely surprising and amazing different light, and we finally got some pretty fantastic (and long overdue) background about his character that was positive enough to make him a star once again.

Sonya is still, to this very day, the ONLY chosen Female warrior of MK. After all these years, Sonya remains the only female who represents Earth and the only female who's ever been a "Chosen Warrior". That alone pretty much speaks volumes about her potential.

Also, it is very clear what NRS' thinks about "the power" of these two characters, and this is seen not just in storymode. They leave distinctive and obvious messages and remarks about their potential throughout the game. Challenge Tower (though not canon) is one of particular interest because of they way they present Sonya. For example, in one of her challenges, she's shown facing all of the Edenian Females and their 10,000+ years of experience (who were mocking her) while showing them what "a mortal earth-realm chick" con do in Kombat (something along those lines, as if they were making sure to confirm to us what they were thinking).

Like it or not, Sonya and Johnny were both build up and shown to be powerful badasses who, despite not being 10,000+ years old assassins, ice ninjas, fire demons, sorcerers, shamans, four armed freaks, bladed mutants, shaolin monks, or gods, can still hold up a tough battle in Kombat and even win against these powerful foes and the odds.

It's because they are special. It's because they are powerful. It's because they are more than just "the sidekicks". And I love it.

Both were obviously build up to be leaders (shame on whoever said Sonya's "never been presented as a leader"). Johnny Cage has evolved to become so much more than most haters ever imaged (or wanted to give him credit for). MKA pretty much established the role that has been planned for Johnny and this game seems to be pushing this idea. Something else worth pointing out is that Sonya and Johnny both developed a special connection in this game (long overdue and hinted at, of course). It was sweet, funny, and brilliantly done. This hopefully means that we'll see a lot more of their friendship and romance developed in the next game (it will hopefully be nothing like Liu's and Kitana's).

I can't deny that I wasn't thrilled and extremely happy (and relieved) with what they did with Johnny and Sonya in this game. As a #1 fan (and sick lover) of Sonya Blade and Johnny Cage, I couldn't be happier about their roles, presentation, portrayal, development, and ending in the game.

I like how the game's story began with their chapters, and in a kind of "poetic" way, it only felt right that it ended with them as well. Yes, I'm very happy they survived, but, all that being said, I'm also very sad and annoyed about the deaths of some characters because they really were unnecessary and stupid.

Just because my top two favorites survived and have been placed in such a great and significant position, doesn't mean that I don't care about the ones who were killed and about some of the bad decisions that took place during storymode.

Anyway, I expect and hope great things for both Johnny and Sonya. I'm not just pleased that they chose two popular and iconic characters to survive, I'm also pleased they chose two characters who happen to be emotional, human enough to relate to, and lovable enough to cheer for, laugh with, and cry. Two that are easily recognizable and two that are perfectly fit for significant roles and missions.

I hope their victory means that their story arc will progress, that they'll both get deep development and new twists in their overall story and character presentation, and that they will have the honor of carrying the main torch to battle.

Cool thread, btw.



PS: I'll get back to some quotes asap.

And sadly, it's taken almost 20 years for people to realize that...

Some people, not the majority of the fans. And most certainly not NRS / The MK team...which is what ultimately matters in the end.

If Kano is dead does Sonya even bother showing up? I'm dead serious. Im not sure about her MK1 bio and ending I don't know them, but I was under the impression that she wasn't even chosen to represent earth realm by Raiden. Rather she was lured there by Kano who was working for Shang. I do know that's how it is in the movie, and despite the cheese factor of that movie It did OK storyline wise. If Im talking out of my backside Ill shut up.

I'm just saying on how long it took her to finally be a character that's suitable enough to star as the main hero. I mean with all the previous games, she was on the sidelines. Look at Shaolin Monks, that game basically made her look like a wimp battling against those Tarkatans and then she's hardly seen again.

That's kind of an unfair treatment she had for a long time and up until MKvsDC, she finally got some respect... I'm just saying that from my perspective because it's always looked like that from what I've seen.

In MK1, the fighters invited were chosen not by Raiden, but by Shang, because as the host of the tournament, he's obligated to find and invite the most powerful fighters on Earth.

Since a military officer who doesn't give a damn about kung fu tournaments wouldn't have accepted an invite, Shang had to lure her to the island by inviting Kano.

The term "chosen ones" usually refers to MK3 though, not MK1. In that game, the heroes were all chosen by Raiden and the Elder Gods to be the only humans whose souls couldn't be stolen by Kahn's magic, so that they'd have a fair chance of fighting off the invasion. This doesn't apply to MK9 though as the soulnado was stopped, so no moment ever came where Raiden needed to beg the Elder Gods to spare some souls from Kahn's magic. (also, in 9 it was Quan Chi's magic, not Kahn's, which is bullshit...but that's neither here nor there.)

Kano barely has anything to do with her storyline and role in MK9. And he's had nothing to do with her since MKDA (not counting MK4 simply because Jarek was a mere clone of Kano...and still, nothing). Really. Even MKvsDC puts them in a totally different position.

She's an established "Chosen Warrior". Her arrival at Shang Tsung's island and the tournament was surely not coincidental.



Good points! That's actually funny, because, I really don't care for her to star as THE main hero (like Liu Kang and Raiden have been in the past games). It would be really cool, but, I'm happy with Sonya's "main hero" status the way it is...but, it would be pretty badass if we finally got a FEMALE representing the world as a main heroine along side Johnny...not just "behind him", like it usually is (sexism?).

That being said, I don't think Sonya or Johnny will be placed as the "next Liu Kang" or "next Raiden" of the next game (as in beating the main bad guy), however, they will hopefully share the same level of spotlight and significance that Raiden and Liu have had in the past games.

They are lovable, cool, and entertaining enough to deliver it. So, I guess I would like them to star more prominently, but, I wouldn't mind if they didn't as long as they are given the proper spotlight they deserve (huge).

As for being "on the sidelines", I think that's a little inaccurate. I mean, she's always been there as a main hero along side the others even if she's not Kahn's daughter or his arch-nemesis. Everyone has always been "on the sidelines" when Liu or Raiden were on the picture, correct? She's always starred in the game's story as a protagonist of her own sub-plot and one of the overall protagonists of the game. To be fair, that's not being "on the sidelines". Also, MKSM was based on MK2 (a game that had her absent).

I do get what you are saying though. And thank God for MKvsDC (yeah people, I said that!).

My point being without Kano, Sonya never gets involved with MK at all.

Oh, I see what you mean.

However, considering what we've seen and experienced in regards to " drastic changes" and "retcons", she would have most likely gotten there through another motive or mission.

Because Sonya's presence was not coincidental, not after seeing all we've seen of her after the events of the first game.

Here we go:



I wan't happy that everyone else died.

I am, however, extremely happy and pleased that the honor went to my top two favorite characters. I can't deny that.

However, I still feel angry and sad about the unnecessary deaths of Stryker, Jade, Sindel, and Smoke.

That said, I do understand and agree with the deaths of Liu Kang, Kitana, Kung Lao, Kabal, Cyber-Subby, and even Nightwolf and Jax (both of whom I absolutely loved)...not because I don't like them or hate them, but, because (assuming their goal was to shock and out things even more difficult for the good guys) they "made sense", and because of that, the four above should have survived.

Johnny survived favored over Liu Kang.
Sonya survived favored over Jax and/or Kitana.

If Kitana was meant to be killed, Jade should have been sparred (or vice versa, I guess).
If Kabal had to be killed, Stryker should have survived. Was he made such a popular badass for nothing?
If Cyber Subby had to die (because, well, they have to bring him back human), Smoke should have been given a shot at life. Was his fate ultimately changed for nothing?

And Sindel, she was barely in storymode and should have been introduced in a more epic way. Just like they suggested in MK3 and not the way fucking Quan Chi did. She was absolutely badass and deserved more time and a second shot to star as a main villain. In her 3 seconds in storymode, she was far more interesting and enjoyable than Kahn, Tsung, Noob, Ermac and Quan Chi combined. Period.



Ok, first of all, that is a rather harsh and an unfair statement/accusation. It's not like everything that happens in story mode is decided just by him and what he wants exclusively.

As to why they (deserved to) survived, I answered that in my first post above.



Sonya's and Johnny's blows were faster and looked less fatal than Stryker's. Cyber Subby's final uppercut was, admittedly, not as fatal looking as everyone else blows.

And I'm pretty sure the developers and writers have plenty of good reasons why they chose Sonya and Johnny to remain alive. We just don't know all of them yet. But, we can make some fair and accurate guesses about some of them.



I disagree. My first post responds to all of this.



This.

Like I said, they make sense and are two characters that people can accept, love, cheer for, and cry with. It's not like they chose Mokap, Dairou, or some obscure female.



Good points!



This. A billion times.



I have high hopes and expectations for this! I really hope they do them justice.





Very, very mad. lol.



Yay! I'm all for them getting more spotlight, specially considering how critical and disturbing their situation is going to get.



I disagree and agree with what others have already responded.



You rather have a protagonist who already knows it all and has it all to win?...definitely not my idea of fun.

Those two "negatives" about their personalities are exactly some of the things that make them far more interesting and enjoyable to watch in the spotlight than characters like "perfect Liu Kang".

I much rather have (in the spotlight) these two characters, who will have to battle specific obstacles and cons about themselves to grow and succeed instead of the "almost perfect" characters like Liu Kang, who already know it all and have it all to be winners.

Far more interesting and less predictable.

I can't wait to see ignorant and inexperienced Johnny's "evolution" and Sonya's compulsiveness put to test.

Also, you underestimate Sonya's qualities. She has been shown as a great leader in MK. Remember her MKA bio and her role in Konquest against Sektor? She was presented as a badass and a top bitch in command. It's not for nothing that she helped create and represents the OIA and is the constant "star" of that subplot.



First of all, I'm, so happy you and Icebaby were around to respond some of the things I would have said.

Second of all, to be fair, I think Liu Kang was pretty cool in this game. His explosion at Raiden near the end was one of my OMG!!!!!! moments.



We get that, but, that doesn't make him more deserving than anyone else!

It also doesn't make the game or the story more interesting. He's already had his shot, time to see some characters actually going through difficulties to succeed instead of a predictable winner with a predictable know-it-all have-it-all advantage.

Note: I like Liu Kang, and I specifically enjoyed his portrayal in MKvsDC and MK9. However, his course as "main champion" and "spotlight leader" is just as dead as Raiden's (another favorite).



Liu Kang still had the "main hero" label and protagonist spotlight in this game like he did in the first 4 and, yes, even MKDA. He was killed and dead, yet, we were constantly reminded about his "main hero" spotlight, specially considering how the events of MKDA ended and how MKD started (everyone killed).



Sonya adds to his character, but, that's hopefully NOT the only thing she'll be there to do. I don't want her to fall in the same trap Kitana fell. If this becomes another lame "Liu + Kitana" team thing, I'm out.



You should be hired by NRS.

Now.

Side kick characters will include: Cyrax, Kenshi, Jax, Sub-Zero, and Raiden.



But, he is not being build up at anyones expense.

All those others could have survived but it still wouldn't change the fact that this is where they are going with Johnny.



Hopefully you are wrong.





Agreed!



I agree with everything except the part where they "randomly decided" certain things. I know their story-telling isn't perfect, but, they just "don't hate/care" about their franchise to do that.



I agree with you on the second part.

Making Johnny the main hero and all is perfect. Having him struggle to dominate and control his powers is great, but, he should never loose the main essence that makes him be who he is. I think MK9 showed as a pretty well done progressive balance between his "funny side" and his "serious side".

As for your first part, I think Johnny hasn't been looked as a joke since MKA. If not, this game certainly took care of that.



I think what's lovely about it is that she is shown as a very emotional character. We know she is extremely loyal and trustworthy, and that despite her tough attitude and sarcasm, she really cares for you. However, I agree that it was quite strange to see her "abandon her status" because of that.

If anything, that should have reinforced her goal to improve the SF and create the OIA to stop the bad guys.

However, I personally love the ending simply because we are being hinted that her role and story will take a totally new direction. By not being (predominantly) involved with the OIA story, she has a chance to develop a new and unique sub-plot. Something new for (hopefully) character development and the world of MK.

Hopefully she will manage to create the OIA, recruit Kenshi and Cyrax, but, eventually quit her role as leader in this to set up a new story.



Yes to all of this.

Her rivalry with Sektor in MKA was pretty fantastic. I really liked where they were going with this, but, I do hope for some new twist and character development.

And yes to your comments about Sub-Zero. I also think they are trying to get at something, and it makes sense.

The Lin Kuei and the OIA should be deeper connected and join forces if they are smart. It's not like I hope to see them on top of each other in their stories, but, they are definitely two teams who make sense to rely on each other and stay in constant communication.

Sub-Zero needs Sonya and Sonya could certainly do with his help.

Sektor is one of Sub-Zero's archenemies and Sonya has proven to be pretty useful when it comes to getting rid of them or slowing them down.



Yes. It makes sense.



I like Kai, but, I lolled.

Agreed!

Reasons why I picked Kai over Sonya and Johnny:

1. My Opinion.
2. My Opinion.
3. I feel Sonya and Johnny aren't really suited to leading, but it could work and it could give Kai a chance to show us his true potential. Sonya and Johnny will always be here, for better and worse, so we have plenty of time to develop them further. Kai is one of those characters whose relevancy fades after his debut game, but if he was given something more to work with, who knows?
4. Also, I feel Sonya and Cage should take their own paths instead of trying to become the main hero[es]...
5. Refer to reasons 1 and 2.

Not that I ever had a problem with Sub-zero's status as a reclusive hero, I'm just saying he wouldn't be a bad alternative choice. Younger Sub-Zero seems more close with Earth's allies than in the old canon.

You sound like you're talking more about Bi-Han than Kuai Liang, if we were discussing Bi-Han I would agree wholeheartedly, but younger Sub-Zero doesn't come off as dark or anti-social he came off as very caring in this game and in the past with him looking out for Sareena, making the Lin Kuei peaceful, taking Frost under his wing, etc.

Bi-Han being extremely dark and anti-social? I agree

Kuai Liang? I don't think so he mght have been reclusive and mysterious like Batman, but he has never been extremely dark or anti-social despite his profession as an assassin. He's more like the tough, quiet one with the good heart underneath his cold exterior and yes...pun intended

Bi-Han helped Earth only one time in MK Mythologies and only because Raiden said so,he didn't do it willingly and he didn't have a choice.He didn't change his paths and that's why he went to Netherrealm after death and became Noob Saibot. I don't even count Elder Sub-Zero as an Earth hero,he didn't want to become one.

Kuai Liang was an assassin too,you gotta remember that,but unlike his brother,he decided to change for good.But his past is always with him,that's why,I think,he is not so friendly with EARTH heroes(not with Frost or Sareena,they are connected to HIS life and past,not to EARTH's fate). If you look at all MK comics and official comics to games,all media for previous timeline games,Kuai was always a loner and "Batman" type of character.

I hope,Espio,you understand what I am talking about

Deadly Alliance established that Kuai kept close ties with Raiden and Sonya.

I would say MK3 even presented him as a member of the "team", not some loner antihero who didn't mingle with the others because of his dark past or whatever, which wasn't even that dark. There's no way of knowing how long exactly he was an assassin for (him being a younger brother, I always assumed he was kinda new at it or maybe even still in training until he inherited his brother's name and job, hence his being a lot nicer a guy than his hardened-by-experience bro) but his very first game did establish that he was different because he always showed mercy to non-targets and none of the games ever showed him being "the shifty one" or that sort of "bad influence" character you see in ensemble cast flicks who always goes "why don't we just kill 'em?" or any "can we trust the ex-bad guy?" drama. When he turned in 3, he turned hard, like white knight if-Liu-Kang-were-a-ninja hard.

This. I KNEW I saw it somewhere in MKDA that Sonya and Kuai kept close ties! Thanks Razor

Yeah, it's mentioned in at least one Konquest that Sonya comes to visit the Lin Kuei HQ and immediately doesn't get along with Frost, like she can just tell the bitch isn't trustworthy, lol.

Actually, Sonya's accurate instincts in regards to the frosty bitch (whom I love) happens in Shang Tsung's island, immediately when Sub-Zero arrives with Frost at his side. Not during any visit to the Lin Kuei's HQ.

That's the first time they met, according to Sonya's Konquest, and this is all happening while Raiden is recruiting the heroes, asking them to meet in the MK1 island located in the lost sea.

I honestly don't remember a part in MKDA's Konquest that states that Sonya visits the Lin Kuei temple, but, it is still not an unlikely guess.

Sonya and Kung Lao are the first to arrive to the island and they spend time together waiting for the arrival of the rest. Sub-Zero and Frost were two of the last to arrive and Sonya, disliking and not trusting Frost the moment she saw her, immediately gets in a battle with her and kicks her butt. Raiden then stops further confrontations.



I respect your reasons 1, 2 and 5, and I like and agree with your reason 4 (though "becoming the main heroes" doesn't mean they don't have their own paths to follow, does it?), however, reason 3 is only half true. Half because I like Kai and I think he has potential, thats it. I still find Johnny a more interesting and complex choice, same with Sonya. Kai is cool, but, he might end up like Jarek...a Liu or Kung Lao clone. I rather see something new and fresh.

I fail to understand why you insist that they aren't suited for leading when we've already seen the opposite in the games (not even counting outside media presentations). MKA painted a Johnny who was more than capable of being a serious leader and guide to his allies and every game has a Sonya who's shown she can keep it together and blast off Tekunin Warships from the sky and still sound sexy while at it.

I think its mostly because you don't really care for either of them than anything else, and that's OK, but, when you say someone like Kai, of all characters, deserves that title more than two super veterans, well, that just doesn't make much sense.



Me too!

I'm very happy they were so well received and that their survival was met with supporters instead of haters, specially considering the huge number of favorites who were killed.

I think they were, easily, two of the most charming characters in story mode and I think that helped their reception. There were many great portrayals, but, something about these two just seemed to click perfectly.

I dare to say that Jax, Liu Kang, and Smoke were also pretty charming.



I absolutely agree. I was actually (O_o) OMG!!! by the end of story mode with Liu getting all crazy, being fried by Raiden, and telling him those awful last words. Liu was once again my hero.

And yeah, I get that you are not a Liu hater. I also like him, specially in this game and MKvsDC.

And regarding your comments about young Sub-Zero: I agree. However, I do kind of see him as the more reserved of the gang.

Maybe its not too "out of the question" to mention this, but, MK:Defenders of the Realm gave us a Sub-Zero very much like Noobsmoke92 pictures. Him joining the gang was met with skepticism but no one was more opposed or vocal about it than Sonya.

However, MKvsDC and MK9 don't really show us a "dark and solitary" ninja, but, that's a vibe that could have totally happened during MK3 when he first joined them, no?...before the reboot, obviously.



Very true. Which is why I was more than happy to see Sonya kicking his butt.



This is true, however, he doesn't really give off that vibe anymore. MKvsDC and MK9 show him more open and definitely not dark. I think that was only during his first three games. I think that by the end of MK4 close friendships and trust were perfectly stablished between him and his allies. It wouldn't make sense for him to remain "dark and alone" when he has such friends at his side. No?

Their first meeting/fight is in Frost's Konquest, it takes place just before Raiden comes to tell Sub-Zero about the Deadly Alliance.

The one in Sonya's is the second time they met, it even says "Sonya had a score to settle."

@Queve, it's just my tastes..

Sure they can lead, but as the main hero of the story is what I'd prefer they stay away from.

It's one of those minor things that irk me...like Jerrod and Edenian souls being inside Ermac(Something I choose to ignore.)