Give him riot armor

If Reptile can be taught Martial Arts Like Those of the TMNT. Then No reason Stryker can't survive. Take Kabal for Example.

Stryker - He looks like an old fat police dad in MK3. So out of place. They couldn't get a pretty model to play him? If they change him, then i am all up for it. If not don't bring him back.

Chameleon/Khameleon - Already confirmed not to be in but i don't mind them at all.

Bo' Rai Cho - Needs to stop eating ben and jerry's and alcohol. His image is off putting. Especially for a serious gritty game. We can't have people farting acidental loads and puking and what not. Never understood why the MK team liked him. He was never popular.

Kai - He was meant to be Kung Lao's replacement. I mean he is just boring. Boring story, boring endings, boring design. Nothing special about him and he was not important to the game or story anyways. We already have Kung Lao so they should not bring him back.

Mavado - Hes sexy but thats not a good enough reason for him to be in. Especially in the time period it is set in. I don't know how they use his moves in the game as they seemed to fit 3D gameplay.

Hsu Hao - Even Vogel hates this guy and wants him dead. He should go back to his old job as one of the village people. They should have made better designed Red Dragon characters but they let in this mess.

Darrius - This Morpheus wannabe should have never been made in the first place. The Chaos/Order realm debacle won't fit anywhere in MK9 since it is a reboot. Hes totally useless to the MK plot and his special moves are generic. His name also is bad.

Jarek - *see Kai. This is just another replacement/copy of the original. We are almost 100 percent sure Kano we'll be in, so why do we need him?

Daegon/Taven - Decent characters but not memorable enough. They could use some developement if they are in. But sadly with Daegon in the background i don't think they'll be back.

Mokap - Dark and gritty which he is not. NO WAY IS HE GOING TO BE IN THIS GAME! RRRR!!

Dairou - Too unnoticeable. Where would he even fit in this game or even the plot. Hes just like Nightwolf. Cool moves but boring design. I say nix him.

Meat - I think the MK team knows how much of a joke he is. I think we all know he is a joke and is random/pointless. Thats why i don't take him seriously or dislike him as much as the other failures. His design in MK was cool but i don't see him coming back.

Drahmin - The design was unoriginal. He looked just like Meat except he has a mask and flies around him. They might as well have called him Meat. They hardly even gave him a moveset in MKDA. They are going to have to build one up from scratch and i don't see the MK team wasting their time on a character like that. He will not be returning because of that.

Kobra - Unoriginal and the fans don't like him. He had potential but they had to use Ken as a beta name and even make him look like him too. We know he won't be back.

Shujinko - Bad hero and foolish. Also hes a move stealer. Nuff said. Don't want any recycled characters.

Frost - Again recycled character. Shes a knockoff of the original. We don't need two ice powered people in the game.

Kira - Recycled/SonyaKanoReplacement/Useless.

From the MKT roster? Rain, Stryker and Sheeva. I like Stryker and I think Sheeva is alright, but I'd shove them aside for Kenshi, Quan Chi and Shinnok in a heartbeat

Message from Raiden to his younger self - "Kill Stryker!"
ha ha

Any new character from MK:DA onwards!

It wouldnt be a bad set up. A miniature version of trilogy, just a hella lot better. I never cared for the bosses as playable characters however. Any of them. Frankly, if they do have some of the bosses playable have their damage equivalent to the other fighters. They dont need a damage boost, because i know some n00bs that enjoy using them and spamming attacks.

So you're gonna give crap to raiden the thunder god who in my opinion is a more important character to the story than liu kang, shang tsung who, save for working under shao kahn, was the original boss of mortal kombat and reptile (which is a lil biased cuz hes my favorite) who was the FIRST hidden character in any fighting game, is overall badass and is the most ironic evil character considering the reason behind him being evil is him trying to revive his race but yet you're going to defend a character who farts vomits and sits on people to beat them? Yes that makes ALOT of sense

Characters who I wouldn't mind seeing ever return:

Johnny Cage: I really don't get what's up with this character. Nostalgia is the only reason he's even liked. Imagine if he debuted during MKD, nobody would like him. I Mostly played UMK3 during my childhood, so I'm used to not seeing his uninteresting face.

Chameleon/Khameleon: The ninjas are no longer palette swaps, so there characters are officially useless. There's nothing you can get from these two that you can't get from the characters from which they're recycled. I like Khameleon's story, but she is in desperate need of unique moves. However, I don't think that would sit well with Khameleon fans (no pun intended).

Reiko: He could have worked, but I lost interest in him quickly. Shao Kahn's apprentice with no where near as many interesting features as Shao Kahn. His moves like in MKA was far too similar to Shao Kahn. We can certainly do without him. Come up with a story where Shao Kahn busts his ass for wearing his helmet.

Jarek: Another black dragon member would be fine, but he needs to be interesting. Jarek is about as exciting as chalk dust.

Fujin: We have Raiden, that's all we need. Interestingly enough, Sindel was originally meant to be in his place in MK4, but they wanted to introduce new faces. Kind of funny considering NONE of the MK3 veterans were in MK4 and only Quan Chi made it to MKDA. But that's a whole different rant.

Kai: Again, very interesting. They should have given him different powers other than FIRE. Perhaps a more spiritual character with supernatural moves would have made him interesting along with a better costume, but he's as good as gone.

Meat and Mokap: Joke characters do not belong in Mortal Kombat.

Hsu Hao: I hope to never see the Red Dragon again. We have no need for it, we have the Black Dragon, that is all. Nothing about this character is interesting in particular. I'll admit I like the energy source in the middle of his chest. They should have put Stryker in the game and given it to him.

Frost: I hate to follow the crowd and say she's just a recycled Sub-Zero, but we really don't have any need for her. What I DO wish is that she was the character originally in MK1 and Sub-Zero was the knock-off introduced in MKDA. I don't know, Icy Vixen just seems more interesting than dude with ice powers.

Ashrah: I love this character, but I really don't see what else we can do with her. I kind of like the costume and the moves are okay, but the story was a success. You got what you wanted Ashrah, now peace out.

Shujinko: His moves are all based on moves from other characters and it looks RIDICULOUS. He served his purpose and nearly destroyed the world. Fare-thee-well.

Dairou: Nothing is interesting about this character considering his look or moves. Though his story is a tiny bit interesting, I hope to never see him again. Maybe I'm traumatized by all those tombstone drops.

Darrius: See above minus he tombstone drops. I can't believe they copped Cyrax's spin kicks.

Kobra: I'm looking at his character design and he does NOT belong in Mortal Kombat. His moves are fire... woop-dee-fucking-doo. He get's my award for most uninteresting character in the series.

Kira: Not only do I not see her as an MK character, I don't even see how she belongs in a fighter. I read her backstory and maybe they can put her in like... call of duty of something. Not the mention, giving her Sonya and Kano's moves does not make her more interesting.

Taven and Daegon: I just think that they were failed ideas. Again, fire-based moves. Nothing about them screams Mortal Kombat to me.

Moloch: Sub-Boss who couldn't pull it off like the Shokans or the centaurs.

Onaga: Well, you can't really bring him back at this point without repeating the events of MKD. Also the least interesting boss in the series.

Sareena: Her and the other two, I don't know their names, I don't really see anything interesting about them. They don't even feel like Mortal Kombat characters since I've never actually versed them one on one. And MKA doesn't count, I don't even consider that game canon.

Blaze: A character whose completely on fire may seem interesting, but that would only give him fire-based moves..... I think we've had enough of that at this point.


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Characters who I feel need a re-vampe before returning:

Sonya or Jax: (Story) I'm tired of seeing them in the same game together. I understand that they're partners but they need to have more original stories. Literally any game where they're together you can flip-flop their names and you would get something that could work because they're too damn similar. Unless of course Sonya mentions something about her breastisis.

Baraka: (Story) No more bitch boy Baraka. I'd like to see a Tarkatan invasion where Baraka is the original threat and he's not just following the big bad wolf. It would be cool to see him get it on with the Shokans.

Lui Kang: (Moves) Out of all the fighters I play, Lui Kang is the only Bruce Lee knock-off that I don't see many people play as. There's something wrong with that picture. He needs a revamp in moves or something to be more interesting.

Sheeva: (Story and Moves) Her moves need to be more original. Right not she has Kintaro's stomp, Goro's grab and pound, and everyone's fire. Give her something that only says "Sheeva". Also I'd like to her her interact with Sindel. Seeing as how she had a past with her, this could make things interesting.

Stryker: (Look) Make him more bad ass on someway. Make everyone forget he was the point of uninterest in MK3. I have a feeling he may be the new cyborg of the series which will do him good, so long as he keeps some of his trade mark features and moves without being too similar to the rest of the cyborgs.

Cyrax: (Tier) Okay. I sincerely hope that he will not be complete and utter SHIT in this game. Every game he's in (besides MKG) he was shit tier. I would like to see him in a reasonable location on the tier list. No more slow recovery after bombs because I wanna throw them in mid-combo, and I want to see all of his trademark moves.

Rain: (Look) Can the whole ninja bit. Pretend he was never a palette swap and make him look like a real decedent of the Gods. Give him moves that revolve around storms, not just rain and thunder.

Noob: (Look) As a wraith, he really doesn't look all that intimidating. They should put black flames surrounding him and make him look less human.

Tanya: (Moves) I would like to see something other than fire and something more original than invisibility. Also, I don't know why they whited out her eyes and made her sound like a bloke, the whole point is for her to be cute and innocent, we don't have many adorable characters in the MK Universe, she could have been the first.

Nitara: (Story) Let's assume that she didn't free her realm, and now she's in outworld and she wants to start beef with... Shokans. I think that would be cool. A triple threat between Sindel, Sheeva, and Nitara sounds cool. She should also have several generic commands that involve attacking with her wings.

Mavado: (Story) I feel that he should be turned into a vampire. The possibilities after that are immense.

Bo Rai Cho and Li Mei: (Story) They were the first glimpse of good Outworld characters, I don;t want to see them go. Though Bo Rai Cho needs to be a bit more series.

Drahmin (story): His design is great (a little armor wouldn't kill him though), but his story is weak. He needs something new and needs to be involved with the more popular characters.

Havik and Hotaru: (Design) a simple teak in their designs would help, just to make their look more interesting and Hotaru needs some new and unique moves for sure. An all out invasion of Chaos realm inhabitants into the order realm after they're been pushed too far sounds like a swell idea.

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Characters who need to chillax right where they are:

Kano
Raiden
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kung Lao
Goro
Reptile
Kitana
Mileena
Shang Tsung
Kintaro
Sindel
Nightwolf
Smoke
Sektor
Kabal
Jade
Ermac
Motaro
Shinnok
Quan Chi
Kenshi

It's already been confirmed that the character roster will consist of characters from MK1-MK3. In MKT (a game that had every single character from MK1-MK3), there were 32 characters.

Of those 32, 5 were bosses/sub-bosses (Goro, Kintaro, Shao Kahn, Sheeva and Motaro). In the past MK games, bosses and sub-bosses were usually not playable, so it's safe to say those 5 won't make it. That leaves us with 27 possible characters.

Of those 27, two were duplicates (Sub-Zero masked & unmasked, cybernetick Smoke and human Smoke). Subtracting those two, we get 25.

So, I'd assume the following are in:

Johnny Cage (already confirmed)
Kitana
Noob
Kano
Baraka
Scorpion (already confirmed)
Cyrax
Sub-Zero (already confirmed)
Sonya
Smoke
Raiden
Reptile (already confirmed)
Rain (why so much hate?)
Jax
Shang Tsung
Mileena (already confirmed)
Sektor (already confirmed)
Night Wolf (already confirmed)
Liu Kang
Sindel
Jade
Ermac
Kung Lao (already confirmed)
Stryker
Kabal

Of these, I would really like to see Sindel and Jade dropped. I wouldn't be upset if Kitana, Liu Kang, Sonya and Stryker were left out. Beyond these characters, any character introduced after MK4, aside from Kenshi, should stay out of MK games. They are pretty bland and feel like "just-because" characters that we don't need.

My favourites that i wud keep:

Reptile
kano
kenshi
baraka
smoke/cyrax/sektor
nood
scorpion
sub zero
kung lao (after shaolin monks)

good to play not to follow

stryker
mokap
reiko

GET RID OF

shang tsung
quan chi
liu kang
kabal
sonya
mileena
'dark' raiden


QR

The characters that should definately stay IN are (and this will likely be the final roaster, trust me I know...)
Sub zero
Scorpion
Reptile
Raiden
Liu Kang
Shang Tsung
Mileena
Kitana
Sonya
Sektor
Cyrax
Smoke
Noob
Sindel
Rain
Ermac
Jade
Hotaru
Kung Lao
Nightwolf
Johhny Cage
Baraka
Quan chi
Kabal
Jax

Please GET RID OF (for good):
Frost (My least favourite character in Mk, She is weak and stupid. Wannabe sub zero)
Ashrah (Wannabe Raiden)
Kenshi (Ermac is enough)
Mavado and Hsu hao (useless)
Shujinko and Taven (stupid characters that lack originality, Liu Kang would woop their asses any day)
Dairou and Darrius (LAME)
Moloch and Drahmin (again useless)
Meat and mokap (duh...)

to THEQR:

I hope the MK team never listens to fans like you, you wanna get rid of shang tsung, liu kang, sonya, mileena...ALL CLASSICS! your dumb go play something else

peace

Just because they're classics, it doesn't make them good. For all you know, he could have some pretty good reasoning behind everything.

Liu Kang is the boring protagonist who has been overpraised in the early years. All other fighters create an interesting Bruce Lee knock off, but Liu Kang lacks a lot of interesting elements. Most people were happy to see him go.

Sonya always has the saaaaame story as Jax. Where Jax is, Sonya is. You could take Sonya's story, Ctrl+f and replace all the "Sonya"s with "Jax" and you'd come up with the same thing as long as it doesn't mention her genitalia.

Shang Tsung has certainly served his purpose and he's now become "just another general" in Kahn's army. He made a come back in MKDA, but where do we go from there? He doesn't even have any of his classic moves. He was once, "the guy who morphed" all of the characters in one, but now he has lost that trait, and is only left with fireballs. Fireballs have been used by so many people it's become the most boring projectile or energy-based special move now.

Mileena is a very reptitive character. What are you doing next Mileena? Oh killing Kitana? Trying to be Kitana? okay, that's new. They aren't going any further with Mileena than that, so her story is getting very boring and mundane.

You may think that the game can't do good without any of the "classic" "Typical" characters, but Kitana, Sonya, Jax, Kung Lao, Johnny Cage, Shang Tsung.... they were all missing from MK Deception and the game did perfectly good. Even better than deadly alliance.

Of course, all of the characters made past MK:DA should go (except for Kenshi, Li Mei and Bo' Rai' Cho can possibly stay if they get improved drastically.) and a few others for certain reasons.

Mokap/Meat (Joke characters, if MK wants to become serious, no joke characters please.)
Jarek (Sorry, no clones of characters allowed in a game worth a dern.)

As much as I would like to say go with the trilogy roster I can't due to one exeption.
Sheeva. I can live with stryker,but she has a perfectly good replacment in Quan Chi. His stomp is more entertaining,he also has a projectile with more uniquness than hers,his popup is more useful ,and he has more room for interesting moves. He is a more interesting character all around. Plus I'm still annoyed we didn't get to see him in mkvsdc. I don't hate Sheeva she was just outclassed.
Side note:would it not be cool if quan chi had a xray move involving summoning skeletons like in the mka opening,and having them demolish the opponent. random idea

any character from any of the 3D MKs

the only exceptions are:
Kenshi
Kobra
Reiko
Frost
Kai
Li Mei

and maybe:
Bo Rai Cho
Shujinko
Fujin

thats a big maybe

these are the only MK characters from the 3D games that actually felt like they fit in the MK universe IMO

im also not very fond of Sindel, Sheeva, or Jade but i feel they could be reworked to fit fine.

Pretty much this. Just replace Liu Kang with Li Mei.

Characters that should not be in the game according to me (I know that MK9 is supposed to be somewhat of a remade MKT, so I'll doubt if we even see characters from then on, but just to explain who MK needs and who they don't here's my list) :

Bo Rai Cho: I, like a lot of people, think he is stupid. He's got a great concept, being the teacher of Liu Kang and Kung Lao. But this concept was put to an epic waste. Instead of a highly-skilled, highly respectable warrior, he is a fat slob who is always drunk. What type of WARRIOR is always DRUNK? I feel he is nothing more than a joke character that was unfortunately developed.

Sindel: She's got enormous, grayish hair that seems like it should be a fighter itself, and to have special moves and fatalities as annoying screams is just dull. She has a decent story and it could've worked, given she had a better character design.

Ashrah: She's a demon who can become enlightened if she slays other demons. Okay.....that's just not needed in Mortal Kombat.

Sheeva: She's nothing more than a lame female version of Goro, she has an unappealing story, and she just doesn't generate that MK feeling.

Kano: A worthless thief who's goal is to get in Sonya's pants. Very important to the main MK storyline, right? Of course not. Another character with a decent story who just fails.

Mokap, Meat: Joke characters, and that's all they'll ever be.

Tanya: She's EXTREMELY boring and everything about her is just tiring and unecessary. Her story, idea, and even her thigh bone fatalities are to be forgotten.

Kai: He's supposedly an ally of Liu Kang and Kung Lao, along with the rest of WSS, but nothing of him really presents that. He hasn't contributed to the main MK storyline, and he can ultimately be done without.

Characters with good story that are in dire need of development before it's too late:

Drahmin: A former warlord who was sent to the Netherrealm to become a tortured Oni. He wears a mask that channels his rage. That's interesting. Now if they can only develop him into something more than a fly-infested servant.

Stryker: I know lots of people want him gone, but not me. I think his design as a regular everyday police officer with cool special moves can be expanded. If they make him have more of a personality and not a dork or a nobody, they might have something. When he knocked the brains out of Mileena in the MKA opening, that showed that a cocky street cop just might belong in MK.

Baraka: He has an amazing character design, but for him to be a servant to anyone taller than him is just disappointing. Like someone stated before, if he was a threat to the world in his own right, and not just a crony, he could be one of MK's coolest characters.

Reptile: Same as Baraka, he has a cool design, but it all falls down being he is a stupid servant. If he was say, a neutral character driven to fight for nothing more than his dying species, he'll be superb character.


Well, there you have it: my lists of characters who don't belong, and ones that need development. I might be leaving some out, but those are all I can think of at the moment.

Berserkers got drunk on vine and fly agaric extracts to get into a haze and frenzy. Bo Rai Cho owns you, and pretty much everyone from the roster from thedisappointingly shallow MK3-MK4 era.

For contribution, the MK2 and MK3 newbies should be in, and perhaps Ermac, but no redundant ninjas with vague storylines we should give a damn about. So kill Rain if possible, or restrain him to a cameo.

I understand that not all warriors fight sober, it's just that I don't think that type of thing belongs in MK. Bo Rai Cho is a very skilled fighter, and he is top-tier, but his design just isn't appealing to me.

to MyQueenSindel:

So basically you are saying that just because the classic Mortal Kombat characters dont have a deep and varied story then they shouldnt be in the new Mk?? I think that you forget that Mortal Kombat is a FIGHTING GAME and the characters are chosen based on their sucess and originality as fighters. If Mortal Kombat would have been a RPG meant to have a deep and complex story, then you should be right about your arguments, but thanks god that is not. Whats more original than a character like Mileena or shang Tsung? The story line in MK is not the main factor. By the way, name a Mortal Kombat character that based on its "super complex story", could replace the characters that you would bann.

I repeat myself saying: What people want to see is the characters that they grew up with, despite their stories. so I hope the mk team never listen to fans like you either, or we would end up with lame characters like Frost or the ones of the 3d era. Repetition is a sucess, specially when it comes to fighting games.

Thats why this Mk will be the greatest fighting game ever, just wait and see.

Yeah, some people here seem to forget that it's a FIGHTING game we're talking about here.
Gameplay is of the utmost importance. If the actual fighting isn't any good, people won't play it. End of story.
Okay, make that people who cares about the gameplay of the GAMES they PLAY.