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The_TooCool_Master
09/06/2015 11:07 PM (UTC)
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Takeda shouldn't save Kenshi from Daegon. He shouldn't interact with him until that scene in MKX.
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09/06/2015 11:11 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
kamouniyak Wrote:
Tweet by John Vogel from a few days ago:

https://twitter.com/K0MB4T/status/638901360331632640

"Everything that happened before MK1 is still canon"

There shouldn't really be any inconsistencies, but some minor things did change:

- Nightwolf, Cyrax and Sektor being in the first tournament when it was said in Shaolin Monks that only Liu Kang and Kung Lao survived after the island came crashing down. Well, it's believable others might have survived. Johnny Cage was also rescued somehow in the original timeline


Shaolin Monks is not canon.


Correct. It should be obvious that Shaolin Monks wasn't canon If you played the first 2 MK games.
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09/07/2015 01:22 AM (UTC)
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Onaga is mentioned in Shao Kahn's MK9 bio, BTW.

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09/07/2015 01:43 AM (UTC)
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Ehh, not very impressive. In the original timeline Cyrax sought to regain his humanity, and in this one I would have expected him to do the same both for himself and the rest of the clan (besides maybe the clones if they are actually just robots). I don't see what made him decide to destroy it this time around. It would have been kind of cool to see Cyrax lead something like a good version of the Tekunin.

The fight with Sektor was a little anti-climatic. Sub-Zero was just holding back the whole time? I expected to to be a more serious effort on his part, and I really thought it should have been more drawn out. Maybe if they combined the first half from the previous issue and this one it would have been a suitable length, but picking up on the cliffhanger just to have it end so fast is a tad disappointing.

The new recruits arriving to join the Lin Kuei I though was well-done and humorous a pretty nice note to end on. But that last scene pretty much guarantees a second wave of MKX comics, which makes me happy. I don't think this was very good as the climax of the comics, but the comics overall were a pretty entertaining read.
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09/07/2015 02:16 AM (UTC)
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None of the fights in the whole run were long. They mostly consisted of 2 or 3 moves and a final blow. The length was fine here.

There's a difference between old timeline Cyrax and new timeline Cyrax. The old one was abandoned by the Lin Kuei and was.brought.back to life in a world where Sub-Zero had already reclaimed the clan and turned it good.

This Cyrax came back in a world where the Lin Kuei was now producing clones and acting like assholes under Sektor's rule, something he helped create by not listening to Raiden and going through with the process even if he doubted.

I'm fine with him deciding to remove all traces of the worst era of the Lin Kuei, himself included.
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09/07/2015 02:20 AM (UTC)
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The_TooCool_Master Wrote:
None of the fights in the whole run were long. They mostly consisted of 2 or 3 moves and a final blow. The length was fine here.

There's a difference between old timeline Cyrax and new timeline Cyrax. The old one was abandoned by the Lin Kuei and was.brought.back to life in a world where Sub-Zero had already reclaimed the clan and turned it good.

This Cyrax came back in a world where the Lin Kuei was now producing clones and acting like assholes under Sektor's rule, something he helped create by not listening to Raiden and going through with the process even if he doubted.

I'm fine with him deciding to remove all traces of the worst era of the Lin Kuei, himself included.


He didn't go through with the process, through. Before we saw him as a cyborg, he told Sektor he was quitting the Lin Kuei. They abducted and turned him into one against his will just like Sub-Zero.
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09/07/2015 03:46 AM (UTC)
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Let's take into consideration that Cyrax had lost his body and had done unspeakable acts in the name of Sektor's dream. Suicide or seclusion are the only logic alternatives.

I didn't like it when all of a sudden the world forgave Sub-Zero, Scorpion and Jax cause they were under some kind of spell and them just being able to go on with normal lives despite having lived for years in Hell. That was unrealistic. But Cyrax doing the honourable thing and going out the warrior's way was plausible and makes good drama.

The comics have been great because there have been dangers at every corner. You never knew who was gonna die. Remember that issue with Goro and Rain being injured? Oh, man, some wonderful discussions that spanned...the suspense, the drama when everyone thought they were dead. No one is safe! This makes me want to read more but at the same afraid to read! grin
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09/07/2015 03:51 AM (UTC)
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Yeah I personally thought Cyrax blowing himself up was kind of pointless. I get the whole "clean slate" thing but they could have reformed the clan together, he regained his free will, he now had the ability to choose his destiny (Dat cheese tho) even if he was stuck in his robot body.

Eh I wish he would have stayed, his excuse could have been that he wanted to make up for any horrible things he had done while not in control or something lol
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09/07/2015 05:16 AM (UTC)
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I'm probably in the minority, but please let the cyborgs been gone forever!
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09/07/2015 06:07 AM (UTC)
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phishstix17 Wrote:
I'm probably in the minority, but please let the cyborgs been gone forever!

I feel that way too. Their moves were never really that interesting, their designs were never interestings. Just all around boring tbb
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09/07/2015 07:12 AM (UTC)
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lanadelrey Wrote:
phishstix17 Wrote:
I'm probably in the minority, but please let the cyborgs been gone forever!

I feel that way too. Their moves were never really that interesting, their designs were never interestings. Just all around boring tbb


You guys make me sad. Sektor is an awesome character. What's not to like about a crazy cyborg hell bent on turning his clan and the world into subservient robots? His moveset and fatalities have always been favourites of mine and I think it's unfortunate that NRS allowed him to be unceremoniously killed off in the comics rather than having any place in the main story. To me he's always been the true adversary of Kuai Liang and should have remained as such.
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09/07/2015 08:56 AM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
lanadelrey Wrote:
phishstix17 Wrote:
I'm probably in the minority, but please let the cyborgs been gone forever!

I feel that way too. Their moves were never really that interesting, their designs were never interestings. Just all around boring tbb


You guys make me sad. Sektor is an awesome character. What's not to like about a crazy cyborg hell bent on turning his clan and the world into subservient robots? His moveset and fatalities have always been favourites of mine and I think it's unfortunate that NRS allowed him to be unceremoniously killed off in the comics rather than having any place in the main story. To me he's always been the true adversary of Kuai Liang and should have remained as such.


Tragic to see NRS tossing the cyborgs aside like they were nothing. I like Cyrax better and I hope he returns, even if it take a long time for that to happen. Sektor definitely deserved to put up more of a fight against SZ.
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09/07/2015 11:44 AM (UTC)
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The_TooCool_Master Wrote:
Takeda shouldn't save Kenshi from Daegon. He shouldn't interact with him until that scene in MKX.


It's obvious Kenshi let himself be captured. Him and Goro are in on it together and the writers will make Goro a good guy or Kenshi found out that Goro was looking for Daegon and let himself be captured.
Kenshi will escape on his own or with Goro's help.
Still, he won't manage to defeat Daegon cause he's still alive by the end of MKX.
I'm on team Daegon, he's a multi-dimensional character.
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09/07/2015 12:05 PM (UTC)
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"Sektor lives"

Cyrax is dead.

10/10. Guess who just became most likely for KP2?

The comic could have built a bit better and not just thrown curveballs after spending forever on Reiko and Havik but I honestly enjoyed it. I would love a season 2.
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09/07/2015 12:22 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
kamouniyak Wrote:
Tweet by John Vogel from a few days ago:

https://twitter.com/K0MB4T/status/638901360331632640

"Everything that happened before MK1 is still canon"

There shouldn't really be any inconsistencies, but some minor things did change:

- Nightwolf, Cyrax and Sektor being in the first tournament when it was said in Shaolin Monks that only Liu Kang and Kung Lao survived after the island came crashing down. Well, it's believable others might have survived. Johnny Cage was also rescued somehow in the original timeline


Shaolin Monks is not canon.
that's why part of mkx's story takes place during a shaolin monks scene? Sometimes I think mk fans just say random shit without using any thought or logic
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09/07/2015 01:20 PM (UTC)
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"Sektor lives"

Cyrax is dead.

10/10. Guess who just became most likely for KP2?

The guy who got his head ripped out in gruesome fashion? I'm not so sure how that changes anyone's chances, personally. Also, for whatever it's worth, Kittelsen did have this to say in response to someone on twitter upset with Cyrax's death: "Did you see a body? ;)"

So who knows, but I wouldn't be placing any bets based off of the non-canon comic anyhow.

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09/07/2015 06:43 PM (UTC)
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b-rad007 Wrote:
Warbro666 Wrote:
kamouniyak Wrote:
Tweet by John Vogel from a few days ago:

https://twitter.com/K0MB4T/status/638901360331632640

"Everything that happened before MK1 is still canon"

There shouldn't really be any inconsistencies, but some minor things did change:

- Nightwolf, Cyrax and Sektor being in the first tournament when it was said in Shaolin Monks that only Liu Kang and Kung Lao survived after the island came crashing down. Well, it's believable others might have survived. Johnny Cage was also rescued somehow in the original timeline


Shaolin Monks is not canon.
that's why part of mkx's story takes place during a shaolin monks scene? Sometimes I think mk fans just say random shit without using any thought or logic


Says the guy who thinks a clealry non-canonical game is actually part of the MK lore, which it's not. Don't accuse me of blurting random bullshit when that's exactly what you're doing.
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09/07/2015 06:47 PM (UTC)
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So who knows, but I wouldn't be placing any bets based off of the non-canon comic anyhow.



The comic is canon. Confirmed multiple times.
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09/07/2015 07:04 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
b-rad007 Wrote:
Warbro666 Wrote:
kamouniyak Wrote:
Tweet by John Vogel from a few days ago:

https://twitter.com/K0MB4T/status/638901360331632640

"Everything that happened before MK1 is still canon"

There shouldn't really be any inconsistencies, but some minor things did change:

- Nightwolf, Cyrax and Sektor being in the first tournament when it was said in Shaolin Monks that only Liu Kang and Kung Lao survived after the island came crashing down. Well, it's believable others might have survived. Johnny Cage was also rescued somehow in the original timeline


Shaolin Monks is not canon.
that's why part of mkx's story takes place during a shaolin monks scene? Sometimes I think mk fans just say random shit without using any thought or logic


Says the guy who thinks a clealry non-canonical game is actually part of the MK lore, which it's not. Don't accuse me of blurting random bullshit when that's exactly what you're doing.


Or that NRS thinks that MKSM is canon, and they do not give two flying fucks about coherency when it comes to plot minutiae. Remember, what is actually canon is up for them to decide... and they can change their words as they please.
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09/07/2015 07:08 PM (UTC)
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Remember, what is actually canon is up for them to decide... and they can change their words as they please.


Pretty much this.

The way I see it is for the moment the comic is canon. Does it have its inconsistencies? Yep, sure does, but then again there are inconsistencies in some of the official NRS writing before the comic even existed. So if or when that changes then so be it but for now, the general broad strokes I take to be canon; Reiko, Havik, Queen Sheeva, ect ect.
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09/07/2015 07:13 PM (UTC)
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The comic doesn't actually contradict anything does it? Except maybe the Jacqui and Cassie never being Outworld thing.
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09/07/2015 07:20 PM (UTC)
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The comic doesn't actually contradict anything does it? Except maybe the Jacqui and Cassie never being Outworld thing.


There's the whole Ermac thing and when / how did he switch sides but Kittelsen wrote that off as him giving Mileena one last chance, I think? I don't exactly remember his exact words.

Who knows. I think it really comes down to "Did NRS change the script after they gave it to Kittelsen?" I think that answer is easily yes. Maybe that's why Skarlet is involved. We know at one point Skarlet had a cameo in the game. Perhaps he was going off of an earlier draft?
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09/08/2015 03:01 AM (UTC)
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*sigh* whatever...I knew this was coming because you know lazy NRS. The cyborgs would just demand too much from their fragile minds it seems.

Just whatever...with Cyrax goes my last fuck I gave to this "story" in its current state.
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09/08/2015 03:46 AM (UTC)
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There's nothing wrong with Erma in the end comic as opposed to the game. In the comic he's servING Mileena. This takes place 15 years before the main portion of the game. The end of the comic he goes to Kotals side where he still is in the game. Only thing I caught was Shujinko telling Takeda about Kenai and Suchin. When it was shown in game that kenshi does it himself but what ever that's minor. This was a great in cannon story to the game. And I hope that a season 2 is approved by DC, especially with the cliffhanger. 15 years of tales to be told means many comics could come
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09/08/2015 04:36 AM (UTC)
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kamouniyak Wrote:
umbrascitor Wrote:
I wonder who signed off on this series being "canon," despite the obvious inconsistencies between this story and the games, not to mention basic story logic. How has Goro never heard of the former Emperor of Outworld? If Kenshi is already in the Red Dragon base, what kind of facepalm-worthy plot contrivance needs to happen to make him have to hunt them down all over again by the game's timeline? How does Takeda consider Jacqui a "new face" in the game if they've already met before?
Overall, I like the comic and really enjoy how many of the characters have been given a good character treatment. But considering how much Kittelsen took pride in reading pages and pages of MK lore to get the details right, it's a little jarring how many really obvious, not-even-trivia things got messed up.

1) Goro knows exactly who Onaga was. How did you get the idea that he doesn't?
The connection between Daegon and Onaga hasn't been explained, but I guess it's more between Caro and Onaga. Daegon's family (Argus and Delia) had loyal dragons dedicated to them long after Onaga had been gone (it's mentioned in Mortal Kombat Armageddon that they were at war with Shao Kahn)
2) By the end of MKX Daegon is still alive, so in Season 2 of the comics (if it happens), Kenshi is gonna get his ass kicked ;))) and barely be saved by.... Takeda?
3)Takeda knew Jacqui before the scene in Chapter 2 of the game. He just said that they had only recently formed the team.

PS: Daegon looks badass! Amazing job by the artist. His face looks so young zoomed in.... just how a God should look.!


Goro only learned about Onaga after reading the Red Dragon lore about him, and he refers to Onaga as "their" Dragon King and not Outworld's. That seems really weird to me.

It would seem awfully contrived for Kenshi to be right there in the Red Dragon stronghold and escape again before hunting them down in MKX, when finding them was the whole point of leaving Takeda behind in the first place.

Watch the story mode again. Takeda refers to Jacqui as a "new face" as if he had never seen her before they were a team. No recognition whatsoever, even though the three of them had a pretty memorable adventure together.
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