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KungLaodoesntsuck
11/06/2014 02:36 AM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


The shadow kick and flip kick were normals, not specials.
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projectzero00
11/06/2014 05:08 AM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


The shadow kick and flip kick were normals, not specials.


Even if they are (are you sure about this?) they still look the same. So if somebody had Kung Lao's spin as a normal you'd be fine right?
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redman
11/06/2014 05:11 AM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:
I wish I could have experienced that dream..

that dream won't be coming true sadly.. at least for this wednesday.

Its main purpose is a Q&A, with some gameplay in the background.


Should be a good time nonetheless.

I posted this yesterday, what the fuck? Anyways, haven't watched it yet but it sounds like it showed a lot of new gameplay stuff. I don't get why people complain about shit like this, really shows who the true fans are.
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SpookyScorpion
11/06/2014 05:41 AM (UTC)
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people should stop getting so angry about things such as video games keep smiling it leads to a better life.
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RazorsEdge701
11/06/2014 05:49 AM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
if somebody had Kung Lao's spin


I can name three characters who spin like Kung Lao, none of them are clones and all three are reasonably popular.
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Randwulf
11/06/2014 06:51 AM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


Only if they 100% scrap her current head, and start anew. Cassie standing next to D'Vorah was jarring as Cassie looks like a Dreamcast fighter, while D'Vorah is beautifully modeled. Her hairstyle makes zero sense, and looks terrible. She seems to be stealing the bad hair crown from Kitana...
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11/06/2014 07:50 AM (UTC)
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Quan Chi's fatality was awesome. I was happy to at least get to see the full thing. Out of the new characters so far can't decide which is my favorite. I was happy to see how all Kotal Khan's stuff worked. I wish we could have seen more from Raiden and Casey Cage, but Quan Chi and Scorpion made me happy.
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projectzero00
11/06/2014 08:07 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
if somebody had Kung Lao's spin


I can name three characters who spin like Kung Lao, none of them are clones and all three are reasonably popular.


And that is relevant how...?
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11/06/2014 12:32 PM (UTC)
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Was busy last night, so thanks to those of you who put links to the video so i could find it easily today.

So I'm happy with the explanations they gave, but having no Raiden and virtually no Cassie action was a little disappointing. Still, I'm concerned the gameplay mechanics might be getting overly-complicated for the sake of it. Does EVERYTHING need meter burn enhancement?

Also just on a personal note, i don't really want to see Xrays and fatalities anymore - i consider them spoilers and i want to be surprised when i perform them in HD on my bigscreen. I had to look away every five minutes.
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11/06/2014 01:26 PM (UTC)
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They added stuff to the sequel that makes the first game seem really simple and beginner-y. Its almost like thats the game they wanted to make but they had to ease people into it first. Its good that they take some time to explain some of this so they don't scare people away. Also about the people complaining about the people complaining about the intro, You gotta understand its like dangling a carrot in fount of a horse and yanking it away. Clues to the story are right there. Its so close yet you can't hear anything. Nooooooo... T-T
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KungLaodoesntsuck
11/06/2014 02:19 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


The shadow kick and flip kick were normals, not specials.


Even if they are (are you sure about this?) they still look the same. So if somebody had Kung Lao's spin as a normal you'd be fine right?


I'm not 100% (more like 90%) but I'm fairly certain they are normals. But even if they are specials, I still have no problem with that. She is Johnny's daughter after all. Who better than her to have a Shadow Kick? Or her dad's Flip Kick?

As for KL's spin, Ashrah had it as a special and I didn't mind.
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11/06/2014 03:07 PM (UTC)
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Anyone else notice the extremely high res during the fatalities?

Example: Scorpions fatality on Subby. The textures of subbys uniform was amazing. It looks like they will have near cinematics during cutscenes such as fatalities or at least boost the resolution output. It was an early claim back when the game was announced in June. It is great to see the game progress from the early build of e3.
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Icebaby
11/06/2014 03:59 PM (UTC)
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Didn't they already have like a showcase video for Raiden before, that's why he wasn't touched during this?
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Manneen
11/06/2014 04:08 PM (UTC)
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I totally forgot about the stream, but it looks like I didn't miss too much.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
11/06/2014 04:16 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Didn't they already have like a showcase video for Raiden before, that's why he wasn't touched during this?


They did the same for Kano but there was still more Kano than Raiden. I feel they should've at least showed Raiden's Master of Storms Variation, because role are wondering if his traps are even viable. But there's always next month.
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11/06/2014 04:58 PM (UTC)
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Randwulf Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


Only if they 100% scrap her current head, and start anew. Cassie standing next to D'Vorah was jarring as Cassie looks like a Dreamcast fighter, while D'Vorah is beautifully modeled. Her hairstyle makes zero sense, and looks terrible. She seems to be stealing the bad hair crown from Kitana...


How in the fuck do hairstyles need to make sense? In the end, how Cassie looks will probably not fucking matter because people like you end up dropping the game a month after release anyway.
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11/06/2014 05:03 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Didn't they already have like a showcase video for Raiden before, that's why he wasn't touched during this?


They did the same for Kano but there was still more Kano than Raiden. I feel they should've at least showed Raiden's Master of Storms Variation, because role are wondering if his traps are even viable. But there's always next month.


Raiden's traps looked viable from the NRS gameplay trailer of Raiden vs Kano.

Trap @ 1:55

It shows how the traps can be performed immediately after a knockdown and also is quick enough to perform after a ranged block. The trap size is large and can be incorporated into an offensive attack (as shown in the video ie: uppercut into trap) and then combo out of the trap.

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11/06/2014 05:07 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


The shadow kick and flip kick were normals, not specials.


Even if they are (are you sure about this?) they still look the same. So if somebody had Kung Lao's spin as a normal you'd be fine right?


I'm not 100% (more like 90%) but I'm fairly certain they are normals. But even if they are specials, I still have no problem with that. She is Johnny's daughter after all. Who better than her to have a Shadow Kick? Or her dad's Flip Kick?

As for KL's spin, Ashrah had it as a special and I didn't mind.


Oh I am fine with Cassie having some of her parents' moves. I just thought that she didn't at all or the ones she did, functioned different. But it seems they don't. That's fine by me. My point was, before the video I wouldn't mind if her parents made it in the game since their specials are a lot different. After the video, where I saw Cassie perform Johnny's exact same specials I really don't think he should make it in the game anymore. Jumping in the boat with the people that thought 3 characters with similar movesets are taking way too many spots in the roster tbh.
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11/06/2014 05:13 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
Just watched it. Tbh Cassie actually does have some moves directly taken from Cage in his variation. Her shadow kick and back flip are practically the same :S Same animation, same kinds of hits. I take everything I said back. I really don't want Cage and Sonya in the game now.


The shadow kick and flip kick were normals, not specials.


Even if they are (are you sure about this?) they still look the same. So if somebody had Kung Lao's spin as a normal you'd be fine right?


I'm not 100% (more like 90%) but I'm fairly certain they are normals. But even if they are specials, I still have no problem with that. She is Johnny's daughter after all. Who better than her to have a Shadow Kick? Or her dad's Flip Kick?

As for KL's spin, Ashrah had it as a special and I didn't mind.


Oh I am fine with Cassie having some of her parents' moves. I just thought that she didn't at all or the ones she did, functioned different. But it seems they don't. That's fine by me. My point was, before the video I wouldn't mind if her parents made it in the game since their specials are a lot different. After the video, where I saw Cassie perform Johnny's exact same specials I really don't think he should make it in the game anymore. Jumping in the boat with the people that thought 3 characters with similar movesets are taking way too many spots in the roster tbh.


Glad to have you on board grin
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JadedReign
11/06/2014 05:24 PM (UTC)
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Well I'm glad to hear the specifics of Quan Chi's spell circles explained. It's my favorite variation so far, even though Quan's never been on my list of favorite characters.

But that's it. Pretty yawn-inducing for me otherwise. Well, MK9's marketing and reveals got ramped up around this time in 2010, so we should be getting new characters/features/story mode pretty soon. Hopefully we've reached the point where it turns from an occasional droplet to a steady drizzle.
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11/06/2014 05:47 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:
Glad to have you on board grin


Any room for one more? tongue
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11/06/2014 05:58 PM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
thisiscourage Wrote:
Glad to have you on board grin


Any room for one more? tongue


Saved a prime seat for unleash_your_tounge
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Lord_Greyjoy
11/06/2014 06:28 PM (UTC)
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I'll only agree once I see Johnny and Sonya. If they play the way they used to, I would be disappointed and generally consider them roster filler/wasted spots, because Cassie does share a lot with them. But I hope Johnny has new Seidan powers and maybe Sonya... maybe she's story-only; I can't think of a way to make her interesting with three variations, but I'm sure NRS can.
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thisiscourage
11/06/2014 06:34 PM (UTC)
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Lord_Greyjoy Wrote:
I'll only agree once I see Johnny and Sonya. If they play the way they used to, I would be disappointed and generally consider them roster filler/wasted spots, because Cassie does share a lot with them. But I hope Johnny has new Seidan powers and maybe Sonya... maybe she's story-only; I can't think of a way to make her interesting with three variations, but I'm sure NRS can.


pretty spot on. exactly where I stand on the issue.

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KungLaodoesntsuck
11/06/2014 08:12 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
Oh I am fine with Cassie having some of her parents' moves. I just thought that she didn't at all or the ones she did, functioned different. But it seems they don't. That's fine by me. My point was, before the video I wouldn't mind if her parents made it in the game since their specials are a lot different. After the video, where I saw Cassie perform Johnny's exact same specials I really don't think he should make it in the game anymore. Jumping in the boat with the people that thought 3 characters with similar movesets are taking way too many spots in the roster tbh.


I still very much want Cage.

I need to see more of Cassie to determine if those moves were indeed special moves. If they are normals I see no problem at all. But Johnny could always play different if they are special moves Cassie does. They could give Johnny an entirely new moveset.
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