What/ where do you think the NEW characters were/doing in the original time line?
What/ where do you think the NEW characters were/doing in the original time line?
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posted09/23/2015 11:48 PM (UTC)byNot sure if this was a topic of discussion at any point, but Im curious as to see what anyones ideas for where they believe the new characters were during the original timeline, theoretically.
Given the hints from MKX Erron Black seems to have ties to Shang tsung as well as at some point in his travels an encounter with the tarkatan, which Id assume isn't a difficult thing to happen to those living in outworld.
Kotal Kahn may have been biding his time to take over the outworld throne?
Ferra/ torr and his species were never utilized by Shao Kahn. Why is that?
Do you think Kenshi in the original time line knew his wife was dead? What did he do to protect his son Takeda? Or do you think that Takeda only became a factor in the new time line because of the outworld civil war?
D'vorah has ties to Shinnok. At what point did this happen? Would she have had something to do with Shinnok during Armageddon or Post Armageddon?
Again this is all theoretical.
Obviously Jacqui and Cassie would never born.
Given the hints from MKX Erron Black seems to have ties to Shang tsung as well as at some point in his travels an encounter with the tarkatan, which Id assume isn't a difficult thing to happen to those living in outworld.
Kotal Kahn may have been biding his time to take over the outworld throne?
Ferra/ torr and his species were never utilized by Shao Kahn. Why is that?
Do you think Kenshi in the original time line knew his wife was dead? What did he do to protect his son Takeda? Or do you think that Takeda only became a factor in the new time line because of the outworld civil war?
D'vorah has ties to Shinnok. At what point did this happen? Would she have had something to do with Shinnok during Armageddon or Post Armageddon?
Again this is all theoretical.
Obviously Jacqui and Cassie would never born.
This is a really smart question.
My guesses:
Erron Black had some Mad Max adventures in the Outworld wastelands.
Kotal wasn't named "Kahn", but commanded some Imperial battalions, alongside his good friend, General Reiko.
D'vorah was at Kahn's Court the whole time, as the game implies. She probably had some plotting of her own, being in a position of power in the House of Shao Kahn, alongside Kitana, Jade, Shang Tsung, Rain, Ermac, Reiko and to a lesser extent Baraka and Reptile. She's not totally dedicated to Shinnok, as her ending implies.
Suchin wasn't killed because Daegon didn't have a reason to retaliate for Kenshi's actions. So Takeda grew up a normal kid? I dunno
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
The big question is why they weren't present at the battle of Armageddon where the greatest kombatants in all the realms gathered?
Sure, they hadn't been invented yet, but I would like some explanation. Maybe they had all died because of their plotting and aspirations to rise to power. It wouldn't make a difference anyway, cause everyone in that timeline is dead.
And I don't care if anyone wants it to happen, if NRS says that parallel timeline still exists then I'm done with this franchise. It would be beyond stupid. How can Raiden create an entire new universe with billions of galaxies and gazillions of stars out of nowhere? I can deal with time travel as long as it doesn't involve parallel universes. This stupid idea has gone way out of hand in B- sci-fi movies and games that people have actually started to question scientists about it!
My guesses:
Erron Black had some Mad Max adventures in the Outworld wastelands.
Kotal wasn't named "Kahn", but commanded some Imperial battalions, alongside his good friend, General Reiko.
D'vorah was at Kahn's Court the whole time, as the game implies. She probably had some plotting of her own, being in a position of power in the House of Shao Kahn, alongside Kitana, Jade, Shang Tsung, Rain, Ermac, Reiko and to a lesser extent Baraka and Reptile. She's not totally dedicated to Shinnok, as her ending implies.
Suchin wasn't killed because Daegon didn't have a reason to retaliate for Kenshi's actions. So Takeda grew up a normal kid? I dunno
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
The big question is why they weren't present at the battle of Armageddon where the greatest kombatants in all the realms gathered?
Sure, they hadn't been invented yet, but I would like some explanation. Maybe they had all died because of their plotting and aspirations to rise to power. It wouldn't make a difference anyway, cause everyone in that timeline is dead.
And I don't care if anyone wants it to happen, if NRS says that parallel timeline still exists then I'm done with this franchise. It would be beyond stupid. How can Raiden create an entire new universe with billions of galaxies and gazillions of stars out of nowhere? I can deal with time travel as long as it doesn't involve parallel universes. This stupid idea has gone way out of hand in B- sci-fi movies and games that people have actually started to question scientists about it!
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D'Vorah was apparently kidnapping/trafficking monks in the Wu Shi Academy raid during the second tournament.
Kotal was probably still a young'n looking up to/envying Kahn in some way.
Ferra/Torr seemed to be aimlessly wandering the Tarkatan Wastes.
Erron Black was working for Shang Tsung. This bit still highly intrigues me.
And the Kombat Krew were obviously not around yet regardless.
Kotal was probably still a young'n looking up to/envying Kahn in some way.
Ferra/Torr seemed to be aimlessly wandering the Tarkatan Wastes.
Erron Black was working for Shang Tsung. This bit still highly intrigues me.
And the Kombat Krew were obviously not around yet regardless.


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mattteo Wrote:
Erron Black had some Mad Max adventures in the Outworld wastelands.
Gimmie.Erron Black had some Mad Max adventures in the Outworld wastelands.
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How do we even know if Jacqui wasn't around in the original trilogy as a kid with Kung Jin and Takeda? Why do you think so much emphasis is placed on Cassie Cage. Is it confirmed Jacqui and Cassie are the same age? Jax was dead for some time and I doubt NRS would include a teenager.
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SpellcraftQuill Wrote:
How do we even know if Jacqui wasn't around in the original trilogy as a kid with Kung Jin and Takeda? Why do you think so much emphasis is placed on Cassie Cage. Is it confirmed Jacqui and Cassie are the same age? Jax was dead for some time and I doubt NRS would include a teenager.
How do we even know if Jacqui wasn't around in the original trilogy as a kid with Kung Jin and Takeda? Why do you think so much emphasis is placed on Cassie Cage. Is it confirmed Jacqui and Cassie are the same age? Jax was dead for some time and I doubt NRS would include a teenager.
Jax never settled down in the original timeline. In the rebooted timestream, Jax retired from SF and became a farmer after he was restored by Raiden.
In the old timeline, Jax never died and therefore never left Special Forces, meaning Jacqui was never born.
mattteo Wrote:
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
IamTheS Wrote:
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
mattteo Wrote:
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
Dude's gay cause the writers of Mortal Kombat live in an age where it's normal for girlfriends to peg boyfriends and for guys to be submissive in bed and let other guys penetrate them. Being gay is about sex and not about the heart. Pleassse don't sell me that. Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Probably the writers of the game like that kind of sh**, considering how they had Sonya make a fool of Quan Chi, who was probably the best villain video games had invented up to that point.
Let me just tell you this: there wouldn't have been a gay Mortal Kombat character in 1992, when the game first came out. There was a time when the world was more sane.


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mattteo Wrote:
Dude's gay cause the writers of Mortal Kombat live in an age where it's normal for girlfriends to peg boyfriends and for guys to be submissive in bed and let other guys penetrate them. Being gay is about sex and not about the heart. Pleassse don't sell me that. Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Probably the writers of the game like that kind of sh**, considering how they had Sonya make a fool of Quan Chi, who was probably the best villain video games had invented up to that point.
Let me just tell you this: there wouldn't have been a gay Mortal Kombat character in 1992, when the game first came out. There was a time when the world was more sane.
IamTheS Wrote:
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
mattteo Wrote:
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
Dude's gay cause the writers of Mortal Kombat live in an age where it's normal for girlfriends to peg boyfriends and for guys to be submissive in bed and let other guys penetrate them. Being gay is about sex and not about the heart. Pleassse don't sell me that. Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Probably the writers of the game like that kind of sh**, considering how they had Sonya make a fool of Quan Chi, who was probably the best villain video games had invented up to that point.
Let me just tell you this: there wouldn't have been a gay Mortal Kombat character in 1992, when the game first came out. There was a time when the world was more sane.
This sounds like the mission statement for the Westboro Baptist Church lmao
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mattteo Wrote:
Dude's gay cause the writers of Mortal Kombat live in an age where it's normal for girlfriends to peg boyfriends and for guys to be submissive in bed and let other guys penetrate them. Being gay is about sex and not about the heart. Pleassse don't sell me that. Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Probably the writers of the game like that kind of sh**, considering how they had Sonya make a fool of Quan Chi, who was probably the best villain video games had invented up to that point.
Let me just tell you this: there wouldn't have been a gay Mortal Kombat character in 1992, when the game first came out. There was a time when the world was more sane.
IamTheS Wrote:
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
mattteo Wrote:
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Kung Jin was straight and hadn't gotten sick with the "gay for sales" virus.
Ignoring the ridiculousness of the"virus" or "for sales" portions of this statement, there is almost definitely nothing in the timeline that "made" him gay. Not Lao's death, not whatever else, nothing. Dude's just gay.
Dude's gay cause the writers of Mortal Kombat live in an age where it's normal for girlfriends to peg boyfriends and for guys to be submissive in bed and let other guys penetrate them. Being gay is about sex and not about the heart. Pleassse don't sell me that. Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Probably the writers of the game like that kind of sh**, considering how they had Sonya make a fool of Quan Chi, who was probably the best villain video games had invented up to that point.
Let me just tell you this: there wouldn't have been a gay Mortal Kombat character in 1992, when the game first came out. There was a time when the world was more sane.
How dare you! I read a lot of ignorant and offensive messages on this board and I ignore them. Not one of them has made me so angry as what you wrote. You have absolutely no right to make light of a disease which has infected millions of people worldwide; gay, straight, bi, whatever - it has no cut off point for who it infects.
Sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with masculinity; I know a whole bundle of straight men who are very feminine, and I know a load of gay guys who are incredibly "masculine". Your sexuality does not define your gender, nor does it qualify you to be more masculine or feminine than any other. You also have no right to say that those in homosexual relationships are incapable of love and that its just about sex: you are wrong.
Not including your gender, sexuality or any other feature of who you are I can tell that what you are is disgusting, you are a repulsive person who should keep your backwards opinions to themselves.
Are you a guy or a girl?
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them.
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them.


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mattteo Wrote:
Are you a guy or a girl?
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them. !Quote
I'm a guy and, personally, I would not let someone penetrate me. But there are people that are different than us that, are not only sexually attracted to people of the same gender, but also fall in love with people of the same gender. I don't know why you think love is exclusive to heterosexual relationships or that homosexual realitionships are debaucherous, but there are plenty of both straight and gay people that have sex without love, it's just human nature.
Are you a guy or a girl?
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them. !Quote
I'm a guy and, personally, I would not let someone penetrate me. But there are people that are different than us that, are not only sexually attracted to people of the same gender, but also fall in love with people of the same gender. I don't know why you think love is exclusive to heterosexual relationships or that homosexual realitionships are debaucherous, but there are plenty of both straight and gay people that have sex without love, it's just human nature.
mattteo Wrote:
Are you a guy or a girl?
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them.
Are you a guy or a girl?
If you're a girl, then please stop talking about male sexuality.
If you're a guy, answer me this: would you allow someone to penetrate you?
Love? Can you define love for me? This is a Mortal Kombat forum, I thought people here were serious. We only love people from the other gender if we are sexually attracted to them.
This has to be some 12 year old annoying troll haha I can't wait till you say something in real life to the wrong person and get your ass kicked by someone haha


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Stick to the topic, guys. C'mon.
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mattteo Wrote:
Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
Some of us are strong men, others are weak and become gay.
>Implying all "weak" men are gay and all gay men are "weak"
>Epitome of misguided ignorance
Lol, move on folks.
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- Cassie and Jacqui never existed.
- Debatable if Takeda and Kung Jin ever existed solely because we don't know if Suchin ever hooked up with Kenshi in the original timeline and in that timeline Kung Lao was the last living descendant of The Great Kung Lao.
- Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
- Ferra / Torr had no special place because they weren't involved with Kotal Kahn and likely were just normal citizens of Outworld.
- D'Vorah and Kotal Kahn were likely followers and pawns of Shao Kahn but not high ranking officials in his court, just the usual goons under Shao Kahn's orders.
- Debatable if Takeda and Kung Jin ever existed solely because we don't know if Suchin ever hooked up with Kenshi in the original timeline and in that timeline Kung Lao was the last living descendant of The Great Kung Lao.
- Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
- Ferra / Torr had no special place because they weren't involved with Kotal Kahn and likely were just normal citizens of Outworld.
- D'Vorah and Kotal Kahn were likely followers and pawns of Shao Kahn but not high ranking officials in his court, just the usual goons under Shao Kahn's orders.
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
I still wanna know who he was hired to kill. Probably a nobody, but since I like Shang, I'd like to know who he wanted dead that he felt he couldn't take care of himself.
Actually kinda says a lot about Black's capabilities.
It's shown in the MKX comic that D'Vorah joined Quan Chi and began to serve Lord Shinnok at the end of the whole Reiko Accords, which would not have happened in the original timeline, so she was simply working for Kahn and had nothing to do with Shinnok. Kotal would have been the same I guess, but I can't see why they wouldn't have been at Armageddon anyways in hindsight, considering how powerful Kotal is.
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:
I still wanna know who he was hired to kill. Probably a nobody, but since I like Shang, I'd like to know who he wanted dead that he felt he couldn't take care of himself.
Actually kinda says a lot about Black's capabilities.
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
Erron Black likely was just a pawn for Shang Tsung, nobody special.
I still wanna know who he was hired to kill. Probably a nobody, but since I like Shang, I'd like to know who he wanted dead that he felt he couldn't take care of himself.
Actually kinda says a lot about Black's capabilities.
Considering it's Shang we're talking about, I could see him using Erron as someone to track down and eliminate potential opponents in the MK tournaments, to thin the herd and potentially increase Shang's chance at winning.
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Considering it's Shang we're talking about, I could see him using Erron as someone to track down and eliminate potential opponents in the MK tournaments, to thin the herd and potentially increase Shang's chance at winning.
Considering it's Shang we're talking about, I could see him using Erron as someone to track down and eliminate potential opponents in the MK tournaments, to thin the herd and potentially increase Shang's chance at winning.
You're probably right. I just wish there was more to it lol. I guess they just wanted it to be as simple as they stated it. A way for them to explain his age and somewhat retcon him into the OT.
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Kotal`s alt. looks like Kintaro`s MKII Battleplan Portrait.
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Can someone just ban that Matteo kid already, this is far from the first time he's derailed a thead with insane homophobic or sexist shit.
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ImperatrixSindel Wrote:
Can someone just ban that Matteo kid already, this is far from the first time he's derailed a thead with insane homophobic or sexist shit.
Can someone just ban that Matteo kid already, this is far from the first time he's derailed a thead with insane homophobic or sexist shit.
If that's the case then he won't be around for much longer. Best to just stick to the topic for now.


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It would be cool to know what they were up to. Problem is that we'll never get the answers. Majority of the cast would probably not even return excluding Cassie, Jacqui, Kung Jin, and Takeda. I feel like it would be a waste to continue getting to know these characters if they are going to end up tossed like how most newbies are.
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Not necessarily. If we ever get a storyline that they hinted at that deals with alternate dimensions, we may. It's still pretty up in the air and we honestly have no idea what they have planned, nor will we for like 3ish years. There are several directions they could take.
- Alt. dimensions / Jade thing
- Raiden / Kotal ending - New tournament
- Something involved Netherrealm
- Dragon King
- Deadly Alliance
- Something entirely new
- Some of these combined
So who honestly knows at this point.
- Alt. dimensions / Jade thing
- Raiden / Kotal ending - New tournament
- Something involved Netherrealm
- Dragon King
- Deadly Alliance
- Something entirely new
- Some of these combined
So who honestly knows at this point.
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