Who else beside me thinks that MK X endings are among the finest in the saga?
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posted02/07/2016 03:46 PM (UTC)by
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lastfighter89
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MK 9 had crappy arcade endings, they were self-expolanatory and self-contained/ stand-alones.
You know, excluding Jade's and Skarlet's ones we do not have any food for thought or hint about the future direction of MK X.

In MK X, however, I strongly believe we had some of the best ending in whole the saga.

The Jax/Erron Black saga is good: Johnny Cage gets hurt badly, he survives, but he needs a pause to heal ( a good way to keep him away from one game) and gets replaced by Jax.
Jax is now the leader of the new generation special forces, but Erron Black is hired to gun them down. You finally have a role for Erron Black, who lacked character developoement in the story mode. Jax is wounded (maybe lethally) and Jacqui is out for revenge.


Cassie Cage/Shujinko: This could be a very "Dark Raiden" thing to do. "Just go to Outword and kill a white bearded martial artist from Earthrealm" he said. Maybe he wanted her to kill Shang Tsung, but Raiden is not displeased by this outcome either. Cassie kills Shujinko, the self-proclaimed champoion of the Elder Gods. The Gods themselves or Fujin are angered by this and they hunt down Cassie. So we have another proof of Dark Raiden badassery, we can get rid of crappy copycat move stealer Shujinko giving him his deserved 5 minutes of spotlight before death and actually involve a western character like Cassie in the most eastern part of the lore (Outworld, Shujinko, Elder Gods, return of Onaga, etc).

Kung Jin/Kung Lao saga: Jin finds a way to heal Kung Lao's revenant state, and wants to share this find with his comrades in order to save the other udead warriors as well, but the forces of NetherRealm are against the idea and send Smoke and some other Revenant assassin to hunt the duo down. So there is still hope to revive the fallen heroes, even with Quan Chi Dead. Kung Lao and Kung Jin could develop a father/son relationship in the mean while.


Kano's son and Frost: the betrayers ? Or the next baddies? Kano's ending is brilliant.

Kenshi/Taven/Takeda/Daegon saga: the best endings are here. You know, you give a role to Taven and Daegon in the new timeline too, Kenshi and Takeda can get into the father-son relationship and Kenshi finally has the spotlight he got stolen in MK X. And maybe a purposeless Taven could become the next baddy. You know, he is not aware of Shinnok betrayal, so the fallen elder god could deceive him like he did with Daegon in the original storyline.

The return of Shang Tsung: Ermac's ending. just perfect, pure genius. It makes sense.

What do you think guys and girls?
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Create_Account
02/02/2016 12:23 PM (UTC)
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I agree, I just have a few more to add

Raiden/Kotal Kahn: I would love a mortal kombat tournament but in reverse with characters divided between their homeland and what they think is right. I would love for them to use this as a way to kill off one of the parent characters who speaks out against Raiden crossing a line, Raiden kills them, and their descendant switches sides out of anger.

Johnny Cage: while I would rather he sit a game out, it was smart to add in a way that he could come back younger.

Jason: while this one will obviously be non canon, I think it was both a cool moment and fitting for the character as well as having a really cool style. In particular, I love the shot from inside his victims chest cavity as he slices them open.
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barakall
02/02/2016 01:11 PM (UTC)
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No, I think endings should all be consistent and go in depth. To suggest Sub-Zero goes flying off on ice dragons or Erron Black killing some protagonists is just silly to say the least. I only like Ermac's and the inclusion of Shang Tsung.
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Odemuitascastas
02/02/2016 01:34 PM (UTC)
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The Endings Tanya, Kotal and Raiden seems canonical. The Shang Tsung return suggestion also seems true.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
02/02/2016 02:02 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89 Wrote:
What do you think guys and girls?


The only endings that were any good were Raiden and Kotal's because they suggested the return of the tournament. Something that has been really lacking in MK for a long time now.

Ferra/Torr's was interesting too but NRS won't go through with it.
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redman
02/02/2016 02:12 PM (UTC)
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Personally, I thought MKX's were some of the weakest in the entire series. The Raiden/Kotal stuff is good, the Jax/Erron/Sonya sub plot is pretty meh and we all know Jax will probably return in the next game, and all of the new kids will definitely not be killed off that quick. Quan's was another that actually intrigued me, being sent by the elder gods to hunt down Raiden sounds like a fascinating idea. Doubt they're going to go anywhere with it though
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MindStrikes
02/02/2016 07:54 PM (UTC)
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barakall Wrote:
To suggest Sub-Zero goes flying off on ice dragons or Erron Black killing some protagonists is just silly to say the least.


Wow Sub zero on a ice dragon?! What has become of MK.... This is beyond silly.
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

02/02/2016 08:35 PM (UTC)
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Direct opposite - I thought they were friggin' terrible.

Sub-Zero deciding to act out "How To Train Your Dragon" was by far one of the worst, most pointless endings in the history of the franchise. Even for a non-canon arcade ladder ending, it was so frustratingly simplistic, with no effort put in. At least with his MK9 ending, we saw an inkling of what finally transpired in MKX - the dissolution of animosity between Sub-Zero and Scorpion in favor of a new "deadly alliance". It was an exciting possibility.

The others...at least some of them coincide with each other, sort of like how MK4's endings all wrapped up individual story lines. They were some of the best (even if poorly animated and acted).

I will say, I enjoyed:

Ermac - for the revelation of Shang Tsung's inevitable return

Johnny Cage discovering the secret to Edenian eternal life (basically meaning we'll be seeing more of him)

All the kombat kidz endings revolving around Erron Black taking out Jax was kinda meh, but interesting enough that it all tied together.

Erron Black, because it shed light on his origins (and explained why he's dressed like an 1800's gunslinger in the 2000's.
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The_TooCool_Master
02/02/2016 08:37 PM (UTC)
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The Lin Kuei patrolling earthrealm on dragons is awesome!

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Warbro666
02/02/2016 08:44 PM (UTC)
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MindStrikes Wrote:
barakall Wrote:
To suggest Sub-Zero goes flying off on ice dragons or Erron Black killing some protagonists is just silly to say the least.


Wow Sub zero on a ice dragon?! What has become of MK.... This is beyond silly.


Absurd! Dragons have never been in MK before, what a fucking jo-





Oh wait. Never mind.
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The_TooCool_Master
02/02/2016 09:25 PM (UTC)
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frabn Wrote:

All the kombat kidz endings revolving around Erron Black taking out Jax was kinda meh, but interesting enough that it all tied together.


Jax and Erron Black's endings did.

Cassie killed Shujinko
Jacqui brought back a cursed Outworld item
Takeda awoke Taven
Kung Jin restored Kung Lao
I think they're on par with previous MK endings.
Some are interesting, some are random...most will remain uncannon.

I am mostly intrigued by Kano's son. I see potential there so hopefully he'll appear in MK XI.
unlike that woman who took over Jade's body and we still have no idea who's dat and wth happened there
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MindStrikes
02/02/2016 09:53 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
MindStrikes Wrote:
barakall Wrote:
To suggest Sub-Zero goes flying off on ice dragons or Erron Black killing some protagonists is just silly to say the least.


Wow Sub zero on a ice dragon?! What has become of MK.... This is beyond silly.


Absurd! Dragons have never been in MK before, what a fucking jo-





Oh wait. Never mind.



(Facepalm) So, bc we have a dragon logo, Onaga (boss character) and MK: A dragons it makes sense to give MK characters a dragon now?

With your logic it would make sense for every character to fly a dragon bc MK has used dragons before... lol. Cmon it's silly, it doesnt fit Sub zero. If they gave Kotal kahn a dragon, i could accept that. Not that i would like to see that but it would make more sense for him in comparisson to Sub zero.

I like Dragonheart but in MK it just looks stupid. That's why i say MK is becoming a joke. They dont stick to what fits the setting of MK, instead they add elements from movies like Dragonheart etc. bc they can. Without thinking that certain changes fit the characters or game's setting.

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The_TooCool_Master
02/02/2016 10:06 PM (UTC)
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It's just an ending. Calm down. His point was that dragons exist in the MK Universe so it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities that a character would own a dragon. Shao Kahn ended up being a cat person in MK9. Sub-Zero having an ice breating dragon protecting the Lin Kuei temple isn't something completely ridiculous.

Kotal owning a dragon would fit even less than Sub-Zero.
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MindStrikes
02/02/2016 10:21 PM (UTC)
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Im calm, no stress here. I just responded to his post.

I chose Kotal as an example bc we have never seen him before in MK. Sub zero incontrary we seen before (many times), and he never flew a dragon, hence nobody in the Link kuei did. Thats why i find it silly. If they add random changes, it should fit the characters and MK's setting.

But thats exactley the problem i have with MK latley. They just add random stuff, not caring if it fits the setting of MK. There are many more examples with radom stuff they add in MK just bc they can. It's ok, they are devloping the game. But it's inconsistent to the art direction and sometimes lore of MK. And more annoying sometimes it's even in conflict with the characters how we knew them.
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lastfighter89
02/02/2016 10:26 PM (UTC)
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MindStrikes Wrote:
Im calm, no stress here. I just responded to his post.

I chose Kotal as an example bc we have never seen him before in MK. Sub zero incontrary we seen before (many times), and he never flew a dragon, hence nobody in the Link kuei did. Thats why i find it silly. If they add things it should fit the game's setting and characters.

But thats exactley the problem i have with MK latley. They just add random stuff, not caring if it fits the setting of MK. There are many more examples with radom stuff they add in MK just bc they can. It's ok, they are devloping the game. But it's inconsistent to the art direction and sometimes lore of MK. And more annoying sometimes it's even in conflict with the characters how we knew them.



That,s called character developed.
Just to use a non MK example, Peter Parker used to be a down and out nerd, then he married an actress/super model, then he became a hobo and now is a billionaire.

You can like it or not, but there's nothing wrong in ice dragons , they fit the MK lore well.
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MindStrikes
02/02/2016 10:36 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89 Wrote:
MindStrikes Wrote:
Im calm, no stress here. I just responded to his post.

I chose Kotal as an example bc we have never seen him before in MK. Sub zero incontrary we seen before (many times), and he never flew a dragon, hence nobody in the Link kuei did. Thats why i find it silly. If they add things it should fit the game's setting and characters.

But thats exactley the problem i have with MK latley. They just add random stuff, not caring if it fits the setting of MK. There are many more examples with radom stuff they add in MK just bc they can. It's ok, they are devloping the game. But it's inconsistent to the art direction and sometimes lore of MK. And more annoying sometimes it's even in conflict with the characters how we knew them.



That,s called character developed.
Just to use a non MK example, Peter Parker used to be a down and out nerd, then he married an actress/super model, then he became a hobo and now is a billionaire.

You can like it or not, but there's nothing wrong in ice dragons , they fit the MK lore well.


I never said ice dragons dont fit the game. Re-read what i wrote, i think you missed the point i meant.

And i dont agree that's character development. With that you can say that cyber sub zero was character development too.
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NickScryer
02/02/2016 10:45 PM (UTC)
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85% of them ranged from pretty cool to totally awesome.
100% of them were visually stunning. I could watch an ending where Shao Kahn takes a huge shit for one minute if it looked as good as the MKX endings did.
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DjangoDrag
02/02/2016 11:06 PM (UTC)
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When I first saw Sub-Zero's ending I just kinda laughed it off. But then I considered it for a little bit and came to the conclusion that I never want to see Sub-Zero have a fight intro where he doesn't fly in on an Ice Dragon. Sub-Zero, (and most of the Lin Kuei) have always had a certain vibe of regality and self-importance and ceremony. They even get offended if you call them ninjas. So Sub-Zero possessing this Ice Dragon, which could be connected to the Cryomancer heritage, makes a lot of sense.

And let's be real here, a Dragon Medallion is nowhere near as cool as an actual dragon.
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Warbro666
02/02/2016 11:29 PM (UTC)
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DjangoDrag Wrote:
When I first saw Sub-Zero's ending I just kinda laughed it off. But then I considered it for a little bit and came to the conclusion that I never want to see Sub-Zero have a fight intro where he doesn't fly in on an Ice Dragon. Sub-Zero, (and most of the Lin Kuei) have always had a certain vibe of regality and self-importance and ceremony. They even get offended if you call them ninjas. So Sub-Zero possessing this Ice Dragon, which could be connected to the Cryomancer heritage, makes a lot of sense.

And let's be real here, a Dragon Medallion is nowhere near as cool as an actual dragon.


I agree. Flying in on a dragon is one hell of an entrance.

On topic though, Tremor's ending is fantastic. I like the idea that they explained how he got so powerful and how he was able to defeat Shinnok, rather than making up something probably non-canon for him to do afterwards (i.e. going home and watching Ninja Mime on the couch).
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CISIS
02/03/2016 12:26 AM (UTC)
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HAHAHAH subzero taming dragons? HAHA fuck know. mkx is a joke on so many levels hahahha
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lastfighter89
02/03/2016 12:49 AM (UTC)
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MindStrikes Wrote:
lastfighter89 Wrote:
MindStrikes Wrote:
Im calm, no stress here. I just responded to his post.

I chose Kotal as an example bc we have never seen him before in MK. Sub zero incontrary we seen before (many times), and he never flew a dragon, hence nobody in the Link kuei did. Thats why i find it silly. If they add things it should fit the game's setting and characters.

But thats exactley the problem i have with MK latley. They just add random stuff, not caring if it fits the setting of MK. There are many more examples with radom stuff they add in MK just bc they can. It's ok, they are devloping the game. But it's inconsistent to the art direction and sometimes lore of MK. And more annoying sometimes it's even in conflict with the characters how we knew them.



That,s called character developed.
Just to use a non MK example, Peter Parker used to be a down and out nerd, then he married an actress/super model, then he became a hobo and now is a billionaire.

You can like it or not, but there's nothing wrong in ice dragons , they fit the MK lore well.


I never said ice dragons dont fit the game. Re-read what i wrote, i think you missed the point i meant.


And i dont agree that's character development. With that you can say that cyber sub zero was character development too.




It was. BAD character developement, but character developement nonetheless



Another ending full of potential is Kitana's. We got the end or the original timeline, Jade's cameo and her "mysterious woman" from her ending in MK9.
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Killamore
02/03/2016 12:59 AM (UTC)
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There are decent ones and silly ones. Like every MK games really. I feel as if they are doing more noncanon endings because of story mode laying out what happened. Most of the endings seem to be ideas NRS have for characters possible future.

The Sub-Zero Dragons thing is better than the random Dragon Medallion that makes him just makes him "stronger" somehow. I could see Frost wanting to steal a dragon over the pendant that makes her ... ice... freeze... better?

Also, Cyber Sub-Zero was character development. Because of that and becoming a revenant, he was much more of a grumpy grandmaster as opposed to the "Let's go save the world kid!" grandmaster he was in the original timeline.
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Spaceman
02/03/2016 02:01 PM (UTC)
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People defending Sub Zero's ending has given me cancer. NRS fanboys have literally taken it among themselves to eat shit. We have hit new lows. 2 girls 1 cup the fanbase.

I was very much underwhelmed to say the least with the arcade endings of MKX. Even the "best" ones were meh. Out of a 50 plus character base in a game desperately needing later characters Shang Tsung cameo'd in like a third of the fuckin endings. And lazy writers STILL haven't learned to get out of the cheap "what if" bullshit and just progress the damn characters or provide further insight into their backstories (however slightly). I could go on and on listing the shitty-ness of the endings. Even the "what ifs" were recycled, uninspired, and lame as fuck. NRS desperately needs new writers who aren't bored as fuck with their material. Boot Vogel. Its depressing he gets paid and makes a living off this horseshit. He peaked in Deception. The dream realm can suck my dick. Two pictures and maybe 20 seconds of storyline per character on 2015 next gen??! What the fuck do the writers even do all day???? The most cake ass job of all time.
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lastfighter89
02/03/2016 02:12 PM (UTC)
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Spaceman Wrote:
People defending Sub Zero's ending has given me cancer. NRS fanboys have literally taken it among themselves to eat shit. We have hit new lows. 2 girls 1 cup the fanbase.

I was very much underwhelmed to say the least with the arcade endings of MKX. Even the "best" ones were meh. Out of a 50 plus character base in a game desperately needing later characters Shang Tsung cameo'd in like a third of the fuckin endings. And lazy writers STILL haven't learned to get out of the cheap "what if" bullshit and just progress the damn characters or provide further insight into their backstories (however slightly). I could go on and on listing the shitty-ness of the endings. Even the "what ifs" were recycled, uninspired, and lame as fuck. NRS desperately needs new writers who aren't bored as fuck with their material. Boot Vogel. Its depressing he gets paid and makes a living off this horseshit. He peaked in Deception. The dream realm can suck my dick. Two pictures and maybe 20 seconds of storyline per character on 2015 next gen??! What the fuck do the writers even do all day???? The most cake ass job of all time.



Let's make some order, first.
In your post you basicallly saythree different things:
1) sub-zero riding a dragon is a bad joke of an ending, ad that gives you cancer ( have you tried with cigarettes? They are far more effective)
2)the fan base of NRS is willingly eating shit to defend NRS
3) the what if endings suck.


Let me answer , barakall..ehm, I mean CISIS, EHM ......COUGH ...Spaceman.
1) Dragon are part of the MK lore, beginning from the logo, going through Liu Kang's Fatality and Onaga and ending with Orin, Caro and the Elder Gods.
Would you explain me why Liu turning into a Dragon makes sense, but Sub-Zero taming a Dragon does not?
2) MK X sold over 5 million copies. And got excellent reception from media, critics and audience. So the whole world is eating shit. And if shit tastes so good, them I'm proud to be a shit eater.
Go play your Killer Instinct or SFV, but do not insult other tastes.
3)90% of the endings of MK,MK2, MK3, MK4, MK DA, MK D, MK A,MK9 were what ifs.
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