Why is the PC version getting shafted?
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posted01/28/2016 03:02 PM (UTC)by
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01/27/2016 02:10 PM (UTC)
Why does NRS shit on a whole community just to make the console people happy? I was lurking for a long time but this news had me really angry and caused me to register just to convey my anger.
NRS never worked on the PC version, only the consoles ones. The PC version was ported by High Voltage iirc and I guess WB dropped them after many problems and bugs that they couldn't fix.

Yeah, it's terrible that the PC version will be incomplete, I was thinking about buying it in these 90% off sales so I could play whenever I got to upgrade my PC but now I don't even want it anymore.
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01/27/2016 02:57 PM (UTC)
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They hired QLOC to fix HV's sub-par PC port and it worked great. WB could have hired QLOC again, in order to port KP2, but the truth is, they don't care. I guess it's just easier for them to enrage the PC fans, hoping that we're a forgiving bunch, than to support the ENTIRE community.

Speaking for myself, I will not forgive this blatant treachery, especially when Master Bo, one of my all-time faves, is a part of KP2. I'm sure others will think alike.

A couple of years ago, MGM said a big fat FU to all Stargate Atlantis fans and cancelled support of the show. Then the studio created Stargate Universe but many Stargate fans just refused to watch it. Guess what happened... SGU failed. Following even more malignant corporate practices, MGM filed for bankruptcy.

A lesson has to be learned from history. Being an arrogant prick, never pays off in the long run.
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01/27/2016 03:17 PM (UTC)
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This is an outright betrayal and I won't buy anything from them unless they amend and support the PC version again.
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01/27/2016 03:27 PM (UTC)
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NRS didn't make the PC version plus the fact that the PC version of MKX was in the top 10 for stolen/illegally downloaded games of the year.

You're beef should be with the actual developer that made the PC port
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Blade4693
01/27/2016 03:44 PM (UTC)
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NRS didn't do anything. NRS worked on and made the console versions, they had nothing to do with the PC version, and it really isn't their call what happens to it. You should be pointing the finger at WB, they are the ones really in charge.
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

01/27/2016 03:48 PM (UTC)
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BADASS6669 Wrote:
NRS didn't make the PC version plus the fact that the PC version of MKX was in the top 10 for stolen/illegally downloaded games of the year.

You're beef should be with the actual developer that made the PC port


This.

NRS is not "betraying" or "shitting on" anyone, don't be childish. This is a matter of the PC port being handed to a developer that did a terrible job converting it. And ultimately, it is WB that decided to pull the plug on it. It's an acceptable loss to WB. The PC sales versus the console sales were not even remotely comparable. WB is opting to continue to support the the most profitable version of the games.

This is also why the previous gen versions never came out...same type of situation. They were not happy with the progress that the developer was making with it, and WB opted to cancel it. NRS was not as involved with that decision as you think.
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01/27/2016 05:31 PM (UTC)
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frabn Wrote:
BADASS6669 Wrote:
NRS didn't make the PC version plus the fact that the PC version of MKX was in the top 10 for stolen/illegally downloaded games of the year.

You're beef should be with the actual developer that made the PC port


This.

NRS is not "betraying" or "shitting on" anyone, don't be childish. This is a matter of the PC port being handed to a developer that did a terrible job converting it. And ultimately, it is WB that decided to pull the plug on it. It's an acceptable loss to WB. The PC sales versus the console sales were not even remotely comparable. WB is opting to continue to support the the most profitable version of the games.

This is also why the previous gen versions never came out...same type of situation. They were not happy with the progress that the developer was making with it, and WB opted to cancel it. NRS was not as involved with that decision as you think.


Don't be childish? excuse me, but if I pay money on a product, I expect support for it. This is not even a matter of being childish or not, it's a total rip off.
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01/27/2016 05:48 PM (UTC)
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You're right and all, but I can't understand people who play fighting games on pc. I use pc only for Quake 3. I even prefer to play "shooters" like Dead Space on my tv. All the MK games that were released for the pc sucked brutally. Learn from the history. Plus another 60 bucks for the console version is not that much. You guys cry like the game costs $2k and you're soo poor you can't afford bread.
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01/27/2016 05:55 PM (UTC)
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-illuminati- Wrote:
frabn Wrote:
BADASS6669 Wrote:
NRS didn't make the PC version plus the fact that the PC version of MKX was in the top 10 for stolen/illegally downloaded games of the year.

You're beef should be with the actual developer that made the PC port


This.

NRS is not "betraying" or "shitting on" anyone, don't be childish. This is a matter of the PC port being handed to a developer that did a terrible job converting it. And ultimately, it is WB that decided to pull the plug on it. It's an acceptable loss to WB. The PC sales versus the console sales were not even remotely comparable. WB is opting to continue to support the the most profitable version of the games.

This is also why the previous gen versions never came out...same type of situation. They were not happy with the progress that the developer was making with it, and WB opted to cancel it. NRS was not as involved with that decision as you think.


Don't be childish? excuse me, but if I pay money on a product, I expect support for it. This is not even a matter of being childish or not, it's a total rip off.


But you're mad at the wrong people.
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01/27/2016 06:52 PM (UTC)
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"WB is opting to continue to support the the most profitable version of the games."

Yeah, but I'm not WB and my POV as a customer is different.

"The PC sales versus the console sales were not even remotely comparable." - Still, the game did not flop and sold well enough to get the KP1 treatment. Do we know how many people bought KP1 on PC, hoping they would get their fave characters in KP2? Yes, it's been referred to as "KP1" before the official release of Tremor, but they stopped supporting the PC version well after that. It's cheating - misleading people and it's not nice.
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01/27/2016 06:53 PM (UTC)
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Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I thought that, after H.V.S' horrible handling of the MKX port, that the p.c. scene had pretty much died off? It's a shit thing to happen, sure, but if the audience isn't there save for a few holdouts, there was no way WB was going to shell out a budget to support a dead port.
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01/27/2016 06:55 PM (UTC)
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Asesino Wrote:
You're right and all, but I can't understand people who play fighting games on pc. I use pc only for Quake 3. I even prefer to play "shooters" like Dead Space on my tv. All the MK games that were released for the pc sucked brutally. Learn from the history. Plus another 60 bucks for the console version is not that much. You guys cry like the game costs $2k and you're soo poor you can't afford bread.


I ain't buying a console just for one game, that's crazy.

It's not even a matter of being poor or not, it's annoying. Something should be done.
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01/27/2016 06:59 PM (UTC)
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frabn Wrote:
NRS is not "betraying" or "shitting on" anyone, don't be childish. This is a matter of the PC port being handed to a developer that did a terrible job converting it. And ultimately, it is WB that decided to pull the plug on it. It's an acceptable loss to WB. The PC sales versus the console sales were not even remotely comparable. WB is opting to continue to support the the most profitable version of the games.

This is also why the previous gen versions never came out...same type of situation. They were not happy with the progress that the developer was making with it, and WB opted to cancel it. NRS was not as involved with that decision as you think.


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I'm so glad you put it like that, an acceptable loss. For everyone else in the MK fanbase it's unacceptable, and it's up to us to voice our discontent at whatever situation we're in. I mean, it's not like i gripe for the fun of it. I make my outrage and disappointment clear because as a consumer i expect better, and i don't want my situation to be forgotten. If I don't complain, who will?
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01/27/2016 07:30 PM (UTC)
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Money talks stop buying WB related games, At the least buy them used on ebay. My thoughts i'm a console gamer but its downright disgusting what WB did to the PC fanbase screwing over over 500,000 people and more expecting kombat pack 2 funny when they first announced kombat pack 2 they never mentioned it was not coming to PC so pretty much they sat quiet while it sold more and likely got some PC fans excited for it.. False marketing for sure so fuck WB.
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01/27/2016 08:20 PM (UTC)
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I find it funny that so many people think NRS/WB is not to blame or to be held responsible in the least. The fact remains that they chose this company to handle their product or at least had a say in it and decided to abandon it entirely after this third party messed up. Thats not responsible. In the end, this is a NRS/WB product and they are accountable for the shape its in
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01/27/2016 08:25 PM (UTC)
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You have to look at it from WB's perspective. Whoever did the original PC port tainted the waters. Yeah, you can blame them for hiring that company, but there's no point in arguing about that now. What was done is done. The issue at hand is that they'd have to bring in a whole new company to do work on a port for a smaller community that they may have already lost. All pf that while the shadow of SF5 looms above. That just isn't cost productive.

I know it sucks, but it's business. I guess just stick it out and wait for Street Fighter 5
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01/27/2016 09:18 PM (UTC)
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Demon_0 Wrote:
I find it funny that so many people think NRS/WB is not to blame or to be held responsible in the least. The fact remains that they chose this company to handle their product or at least had a say in it and decided to abandon it entirely after this third party messed up. Thats not responsible. In the end, this is a NRS/WB product and they are accountable for the shape its in


Absolutely agree.

The Mortal Kombat name is on this product, as undoubtedly is, some mention of NRS and Warner Bros. If you don't want your name and reputation associated with crap, don't put out a crap product and then leave your customers/fans twisting in the wind. Demand better from the company you willingly outsourced a job to.

Boon and the rest of NRS should demand every version of their game be of the highest quality. Their games for WB have been very successful. You can't tell me they don't have some say in how ports are done. If the buck doesn't stop with NRS, and it should, we're all screwed as customers.
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Well, you all got your Tremor now. Can we finally move on?

01/27/2016 09:46 PM (UTC)
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Don't get me wrong.

As a consumer you have EVERY RIGHT to be angry. It's extremely frustrating that there exists multiple platform editions of a game, but only one platform medium is going to continue to get support.

Unfortunately in business like this, "acceptable loss" is exactly that - they KNOW that the fanbase is going to be extremely angry, but they also took into account that it is a relatively small portion of the consumer versus the much larger demographic of PS4/XB1 owners. The same decision was made for PS3/XB360 - they opted to take an acceptable loss in the consumer market, knowing that the 360/PS3 demographic was much smaller than the PS4/One demographic. The average gamer upgrades their consoles to a new generation within 1 year of release.

Now that leaves the PC Master Race. I love LOVE LOVE pc gaming...even fighting games (hook up a pad and you're good to go). I prefer console gaming for fighters any day, but I enjoy the modability of PC games. Let's address KP1 - KP1 was planned from the start. It was developed in tandem with MKX. When MKX was 80% complete, Kombat Pack 1 was probably 40% complete. It was practically ready for launch with MKX's release. KP2 was a direct result of the sales of the game - it was NOT pre-planned in the sense that it was NOT already in development. They waited for sales #'s to be good, and they were more than good - they were earth shattering.

WB was aware of the issues plaguing the PC version. They were aware of the outsourced developer's inability fix those issues. They were aware of the fact that the sales of the PC version did not even remotely match the consoles. Therefore, they made a difficult decision to alienate a substantial yet still miunority portion of the consumer.

It's just business, it's not personal or a betrayel. They had to make the decision that was right for the company. Doesn't mean that the consumer has to like it.
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01/27/2016 10:37 PM (UTC)
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Again, it seems people still can't distinguish the difference between a a game developer and a game publisher.

WB pays for game to be made, hires dev team, sells game.

NRS does their job, and does what ever WB tells them to do because WB is their employer.

NRS can't port add on content to a game they never worked on especially when they aren't being payed to do it.
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01/27/2016 10:41 PM (UTC)
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So why the hell they need to port the game ? Why don't they make a pc version like they do for ps and x ?
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01/27/2016 11:52 PM (UTC)
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Demon_0 Wrote:
I find it funny that so many people think NRS/WB is not to blame or to be held responsible in the least.


Who the hell isn't blaming WB? What internet are you reading? You do know that NRS and WB are NOT the same thing, right?


Asesino Wrote:
So why the hell they need to port the game ? Why don't they make a pc version like they do for ps and x ?


Dude... Wow.

Let's just say that explaining how game development works from the ground up is beyond the scope of this forum thread.
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01/28/2016 12:39 AM (UTC)
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The Mortal Kombat name is on this product, as undoubtedly is, some mention of NRS and Warner Bros. If you don't want your name and reputation associated with crap, don't put out a crap product and then leave your customers/fans twisting in the wind. Demand better from the company you willingly outsourced a job to.

Boon and the rest of NRS should demand every version of their game be of the highest quality. Their games for WB have been very successful. You can't tell me they don't have some say in how ports are done. If the buck doesn't stop with NRS, and it should, we're all screwed as customers.


They did demand more, which is why WB put the boot to High Voltage's ass and put someone else on the port to bring it up to snuff.

And the buck DOES NOT stop with NRS. It just doesn't. Boon and the team at NRS, do not own mortal kombat. Boon made it clear from jump street that he and the team at NRS were not responsible for any versions outside of the ps4/xbox1. Outsourcing fell on WB, the property's publisher and owner(I.e. those who make the final decision).
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01/28/2016 12:52 AM (UTC)
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Outsourcing doesn't absolve the sponsor/brand from their bad decisions, the responsibility isn't delegated, it's still their product. From a strictly business pov is an understandable course of action but short-sighted, imo.
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