That's quite a cute look for Kitana, Xia. I wouldn't mind her abandoning the crown, but there'd have to be a reason for it, and it'd need to be a good one. A sadder, more fighting focused Kitana would be so refreshing, though.

Which look? The one I described in the story or the pic I posted?
(EDIT: Actually, ignore the pic I posted; it actually doesn't fit with what I'm going for)

But anyway, obviously she'd need reason to abandon the crown. If you read the story for instance, it becomes clear how and why she gets to where I put her.
There are a lot of ways to get her away from Edenia.

And, as I've said in other threads, I think removing her from the responsibilities of royalty with a more jaded and bitter outlook will allow her to be...to put it succinctly...bad ass again; as well as open up new story possibilities beyond defending the realm again and again.

I find myself wishing that Kitana's MK vs DC ending, where Edenia is lost forever and she and the remaining survivors have to move to Earthrealm, was introduced in the canon instead of in this game.

I feel like if Edenia and Kitana's tie to it was EVER going to matter and be more than just the realm of hostages and first strikes, Sindel should have died in MK4 so she could become queen. In fact, I was certain Sindel WAS dead until Deception. The absence of even mentions of her in 4/Gold was so conspicuous, it had me thinking Shinnok's invasion started with her being rubbed out right away.

Of course Deception had to dig up the trash again....

sad actually, Muchacha could have been something. Now I am in seething antipathy against her thanks to Anihilation and the lovecraftian horror she was in MK3. Gotta admit I liked the hair in MKD though.

I'm not sure if this was cheer you up any, but I was looking at the Kollector's Edition DVD towards the cinematic cutscenes and as far as I got they actually showed the script saying: Chapter 6: Kitana. Which DOES indicate that there was intended to be a chapter for Kitana, but it appears to have been cut for time unfortunately.

Basically in MK Vs DCU Kitana witnessed the merging of two worlds and it shit her up... big time.

While I generally agree that her portrayal in the game was essentially her running about trying to beat people up and then running off due to the RAYGE! wasn't the best for the character.

What might have been good would have been a Kitana chapter, where she tells them what she witnessed at the Outworld/Apokalips merger. Especially seeing as she was the only one who saw the event.

I basically agree with most of what Leo says, which seems to be the thing in mind of most people anyways.

Kitana SHOULD had gotten better treatment, and yes, as some awesome fans like oracle, warriorprincess, etc. say, she disserves better then that. But in all honestly, this is exactly how she has been for ages, and it is how she has been perceived by the fans and the mk team.

Leo has a point when he says that there is a vast difference between what we are given about a character in the games and what we like to assume the character is supposed to be, and what we want the character to represent. Just because we like to think she represents something higher doesn’t necessarily mean she actually does, and just because some want to force her to be the main heroine is not the reason why she should had gotten better treatment imo, because for what she could potentially represent, she could be fantastic again.



I agree with Xia on the whole stress/fear thing. I don’t see how this is a problem if it’s not exaggerated.

Of course, I still haven’t played mk vs dc so I don’t know to what extent she was messed up, but her stress ending in Mkunchained was very cool. Gives a human touch to her character, imo, but...I guess I can see why some would say it’s bad. If it’s been used along side her imagine of a soft flower, then yeah, I can see why some would say that. Would be much different if she was portrayed differently AND suddenly have the stress breakdown I guess.

Still, I guess I have to play mk vs dc to see why everyone dislikes that. But, well, I loved it in mku. It adds a human touch to her character.



Not really.

Johnny Cage is practically THE STAR of that game. Mileena had an excellent portray as well, Shao Kahn (from what I remember) was amazing. Sonya, Jax, Kano and Reptile were all great as well. Same with most of the other characters who didn’t get the main playable roles.



???

I agree with Xia in this as well. The story is basically one of the main elements (fine, who are we kidding? THE main favorite element) of Mortal Kombat.

I’m not saying gameplay isn’t as important. I’m just saying the story is incredibly important and valued by the fans and the team. So far, they have done one of the best jobs ever in terms of storyline for a videogame, and though MK has had its up and downs in the general story or just some specific characters, it still remains as probably the most amazing and awesome thing about the game. Apparently, despite a few flaws, they did an amazing job in mk vs dc. I find that reassuring.

Story is important, and a huge majority of the fans care.



No problem.

You basically nailed the main idea.



I 100% agree with you!

MK:SM is MY favorite Kitana, design wise AND special moves wise. Sure, she got the bun and a swimsuit again, but seriously, she looked gorgeous!! The corset-like outfit was very pretty, her eye linear was sexy, and her mask was pretty cool (why did they change it so radically in MkvsDC? It looks like a sticker on her face!). Her face looked thin and elegant (with mask and in the render I mean), not round, and even though I dislike the bun, I think that is MUCH better then the thing she got for MK vs DC. And it looked pretty in MkSM.

That’s a cool pic btw, because she seems to be wearing pants, but I wouldn’t go with covering half of her face with the hair.



Hair buns are a much more reasonable option then what she got in mk vs dc.

But my fave would be, no doubt, her MKDA hair style. That was awesome, and I loved it. It looked much better there then in this next gen....which makes no sense!

And outfit-decency is something this particular character has needed since the end of Mk2.



I don’t understand why they didn’t use the same animation they used to create Sonya’s hair. Her hair bangs are absolutely gorgeous, sexy and even realistic in this game.

That should had been done to Wonderwomans hair as well.



**Insert Dramatic voice screams**

LEAVE SINDEL ALONE!!!!

What the hell? I so disagree with both of you guys (imo of course, I mean no disrespect, lol ).

“Muchacha” has a lot MORE potential then Kitana and Jade to become (once again) something just as incredible as her MK3 self. I’m extremely happy they brought her back for MKD, but I agree they didn’t develop her as much as she should had been and got screwed in terms of her grab, fly and HAIR!

Sindel is one of those characters with a decent fan base and an excellent load of potential. If they give her a spin like her MK3 appearance again (+ the new awesomeness she got in MKD), and untie her of Kitana, then yeah, you have something fantastic to work with.

Keep Sindel.

And if we get DLC, we better get more then just 1 mk female, because both Mileena and Sindel would be AWESOME.

AGAIN...
Too much is too much: always "cut for time".
They should learn to cut the crap.

I disagree that Sindel's MK3 self was "awesome" or that she has a "decent fanbase".
Three or four people on one message board talking about her all the time is not a big fanbase. Outside of MKO, she's not exactly a big name.
I mean, she served a very clear and important to the story purpose in MK3, but after that, what reason was there to bring her back? What does she bring to the table? Sareena's a better "goth chick" if that's what you're into, and Kitana fills the Edenian Royalty roles in the story better.
The only reason Sindel was even IN MKD was because Kitana wasn't. And WHAT reason did they come up with to get Kitana out of the way so Sindel could be in the game? That's right, she was enslaved.
So basically, Sindel's continued existence harms Kitana's character because when you put her in a game, you first have to come up with a reason why Kitana couldn't be doing whatever she's doing instead, because Kitana would be better at it.

We'll most likely never get Sindel and Kitana untied from each other unless one dies and to be honest, I think killing off Kitana would greatly benefit Sindel more than killing Sindel would benefit Kitana. Kitana has been in alot more games and remained very stagnant throughout. Sindel has only been in two and has had major developments between the two. They could give the two women seperate goals, like Kitana is very much war orientated (we've figured that out since MKDA) so she could be the army general, out fighting the good fight, and Sindel is more of the knowledgeable ruler, she knows secrets about Edenia and the realms and is very much like the current protector of the realm, like Argus or Raiden. I would love for them to be seperate but I don't think it'll happen. That being said, Sindel knew there was a bigger cause for her quest in Deception than to save her daughter, so maybe.

The problem with the idea that Sindel is more useful because she knows more about Edenia:

Nothing good ever happens in Edenia! Mortal Kombat is about Earth and the realms that attack Earth. Edenia will never attack Earth because it's a nicey-nice fairy tale realm ruled by protagonists. The only way to GET Edenia to attack Earth is to have it taken over by bad guys and it's been taken over by bad guys WAY too many times ALREADY.
Basically, the whole place is unnecessary baggage. I would say anywhere that's not Outworld or Netherealm is unnecessary baggage, but at least Seido and Chaosrealm are vaguely villainous places.

Kitana herself is unnecessary baggage, but she's popular baggage, and so is Edenia, a staple in her story and in alot of other characters stories. So, they may not have been utilized to their full potential yet, but they could be.

I wished they had followed through with Mileena's plot in Deception, instead of Kahn showing up and ruining it. With Kitana evil and Sindel and Jade in Outworld, Edenia was Mileena's for the taking and she had it, and the army. Edenia could have went into a very interesting downward spiral at her hand. There's alot of history to Edenia that's been focused on; the Armageddon prophecy, the merging with Outworld, its freedom and rebuilding. Hopefully there can be major advancements in its future. I'd like to see Kitana apart of that, but in her current state, the only thing she has going for her is her title as princess and being the first character to introduce Edenia to the series, nothing more.

All of that history you just mentioned, merging with Outworld, rebuilding, Armageddon, has already happened, it's in the past. You can't get new stories out of that.
In fact, part of me suspects the team also feels like there's nothing left to do with the place and the entire reason Armageddon was set in Edenia was so they could destroy it.

You misunderstood me, I meant they have given Edenia background and depth in the past, what's stopping them doing so in the future?

Relevance. I have a pretty good feeling they'll be tightening the focus of future MK games and getting back to threats to Earthrealm, and Edenia doesn't have anything to do with Earthrealm.

I don't know. I think Edenia still has alot going for it, even more than Earth. Earth maybe the staple realm of all realms, and where the story is focused, but it's only had one tournament and one invasion since the series started. Aside from that, nothing at all happens in Earth.

MK4 centered around Edenia, MKDA in Outworld, and MKD and MKA was about all the realms. They could definitely do with shifting the story back to Earthrealm but that's not to say they should do away with Edenia.

Plus as allies, Edenia and Earthrealm have been tied together, as MK4 showed; the Earthrealm heroes went there to save it (okay, yeah it was to save their own necks as well) but it does have revelance.

MK1 and 3 took place entirely on Earth

MK2 was about defending Earth, even though it took place in Outworld
In MK4, Shinnok's ultimate goal was Earth, Edenia was only really involved as the place foolish enough to let Shinnok out of Hell.
MKDA was about a pre-emptive strike led by Raiden to keep the DA from becoming powerful enough to attack Earth
MKD was about Outworld, but was a direct continuation of MKDA
Armageddon was the only game Edenia could call it's own, and ended in a way that the MK team can now say any character or realm they want is dead.

Depends on how you look at it. They can all be about defending Earth, or they can be the constant battles between all realms. If it wasn't for realms such as Edenia to spice things up, year after year of Earthrealm's in trouble would have gotten stale. Fast.

Sorry; staler.

You want to know why it's important that Earth stay the focus?

1) All the damn main characters come from there except Kitana. When Kahn and Edenia are at war, has Raiden ever rallied the chosen ones to help out? Hell no.
2) Earth is where we the player come from. We know that place the best and already have an emotional attatchment to it and what happens in it.

Raiden went to war against Shinnok to rid all realms from him, and Liu Kang has in the past went to Edenia to help them.

Liu went to Edenia to rescue his girlfriend, any higher act of altruism would've been just a bonus. He didn't go join up with her and Goro's army in the next game, did he? He doesn't fight for realms other than Earth. Hell, if he had been with them instead of alone at the Wu Shi Academy, he probably wouldn't have gotten killed.

The point is, both realms help each other out when the bad guys show up. There's no point in eliminating one of them just because the primary focus is on the other. They don't need to streamline the story to make it good, just develop it.

Anyway, I'm very far off topic. Kitana needs an overhaul, one I hope she gets but doubt she will. Why would the creators fuck with formula that's worked for them amongst the casual gamer who doesn't give a shit about the storyline. Blue leotard, steel fans. Bingo. Shame.

And my point is no they don't! The Earth characters never help Edenia out.

This is my favorite concept art of Kitana. It's a return to her assassin/ninja days in MKII yet also adds a splash of the streamlined deadliness she had in MK:SM. And it proves you can be sexy without remaining in a perpetual one-piece bathing suit.

In the next game, I would like to see Kitana be disenchanted with the idea of being Edenia's protector. Possibly allow some of her dark side to return? I wouldn't necessarily like to see her evil, but an anti-hero Kitana would be cool as hell. Perhaps occupy the Nina Williams role of Mortal Kombat (with less tacky storylines)?

As redesigns and attempts to escape the swimsuit look go, I've always felt that the 2nd design in this concept art by Jax007 is the best idea for a new look for Kitana I've seen:


Granted, such big changes are usually better suited as alt costumes, not mains. The first is probably a better example of a look that would work for Kitana's 1st costume. It's not a radical departure, but has neither a ninja mask nor a bathing suit. She's actually wearing pants, from the looks of it. And it's still decorative and lacey, but looks "badass" and tough at the same time.
And neither is so radical as to be unrecognizable as the character. That's the important thing about a redesign, you can't change the character so much that it doesn't even look like the same character anymore. For that reason, I'd be strongly against a change of her color scheme. Kitana is blue, that's the way it is.
They were able to change Mileena while still making her look completely familiar, after all. I think that's the one to hold up as a perfect example of how to change a character's look while still retaining what makes that character who they are.