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06/01/2011 03:38 AM (UTC)
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confirm the nerf?

talkin out your ass cuz last i checked they just said kano is good lol
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rayden4u2335
06/01/2011 03:43 AM (UTC)
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SRK.com check the Kano thread. Everyone is ecstatic about the nerf. Word of mouth spread from Tom brady himself. It's gonna be more punishable by fast special i.e Kabal's dash, Cage's shadow/flash kick
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/01/2011 03:50 AM (UTC)
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if youre talkin about his ball then watever, i can already punish it but my issue is combos and his are ass

end of story goodnight sir
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rayden4u2335
06/01/2011 03:52 AM (UTC)
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good argument sir hope to continue some other day :)
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GodlyShinnok
06/01/2011 04:38 AM (UTC)
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rayden Wins!

ironman Fails!
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/01/2011 05:34 AM (UTC)
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beat this:

jump in 1+b1,1,2-2,1,2-b1,2-EX upball (38)

if you can beat this midscreen let me know or my argument remains valid

i really dont see why ppl dont understand he needs a combo buff

just sayin
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rayden4u2335
06/01/2011 05:46 AM (UTC)
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We don't think he needs a damage buff because while his bnb might not do the most damage out of the cast, he has alot of tools to work with. Take Mileena: max midscreen no meter bnb u can do is probably gonna get you ~33%. BUT mileena also has great mixups, fast popup, good teleport to punish projectiles, and alot of other tools which make her successful. The game isn't ALL about the most damaging combos. Sure it's nice to do alot of damage, but it's not the whole key to winning in this game.

Kano has alot of useful tools at his disposal which make him good. Like Kabal or Cyber sub, their combos do little damage, but they have alot of tools in their arsenal to compensate for it.
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06/01/2011 06:05 AM (UTC)
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listen i understand all that, im not retarded ive been playing fighters for years

the issue is that kano has all the tools to wreck anybody with 40's and damn near 50% combo because he has lots of chains yet they decide to make him locked at pathetic damage cap

easy bnb:
2,1,2-2,1,2-b1,2-upball 31%
then if you take out the b1,2 and make it b2,f1 upball its 32. Now thats the prob because if i add that i cant even add a knife+ball combo (but why?)

b1,3 looks like a great combo i can dash into but no, you can only do one special off it (i cant get a knife ball combo on it, maybe its just me)

plus i never use twin dragon because you cant combo them and they are slow

this all together limits him, which mk9 has been very good at avoiding with every other character besides my fave

i dont want him broken but where are his options at if they limit them in your face?
plus kabal is getting a damage buff because hes weak and his combo are limited too, think about it
btw those suggestions i made for kano, i didnt want all of them at the same time because that would be unfair but you cant tell me his EX knife shouldnt be like kung laos hat i mean come on thats what the knife doesgrin
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06/01/2011 12:59 PM (UTC)
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ironman357thegod Wrote:
beat this:

jump in 1+b1,1,2-2,1,2-b1,2-EX upball (38)

if you can beat this midscreen let me know or my argument remains valid

i really dont see why ppl dont understand he needs a combo buff

just sayin


JP ~B+1,1,2~ ~2,1,2~ JK, EX (Air) Ball Roll 39%

Sorry, couldn't help myself from posting 1% more.

I'm not involved in the Kano conversation, but I will say that he is a very strong character that is making appearances in tournaments now. They need to be careful about buffing characters like this because they could overpower them with the smallest of changes.

I've played some Kano players that make me feel that he is fine as is. (Just my opinion)
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06/01/2011 05:07 PM (UTC)
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rayden4u2335 Wrote:

It doesn't make sense that you can block it with your arms. so by your logic, you can't block scorpion's spear. HOW YOU GONNA BLOCK A SPEAR WITH YOUR ARMS! or you can't block sub zero's iceball or your arms get frozen and you can't fight anymore.

See how that works? Ohh right it doesn't, it's gamebreaking. Mileena is fine as is.


I meant a leg attack should not be blockable by your arms. See how that works?
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Keith
06/01/2011 08:10 PM (UTC)
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Kano's knife or his upball or preferbaly both need to be nerfed or something. It's impossible to punish spammers. I don't know what it's like online but offline it's horrendous.
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/01/2011 09:28 PM (UTC)
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its so easy to punish it but whatever

maybe i shouldnt say buff, maybe tweak because there is no justification for his cap

all im sayin
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rayden4u2335
06/01/2011 10:27 PM (UTC)
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MKMileena said:
I meant a leg attack should not be blockable by your arms. See how that works?

So? A flying dagger or an ice blast that freezes you on physical contact shouldn't be blockable by your arms either. Or acid, or punches from a guy with augmented strength via robot arms, or plasma bolts, or lightning...

See how that works? Yet again it doesn't
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06/02/2011 12:16 AM (UTC)
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Obviously projectiles/specials need to be blocked. and yes sometimes its ridiculous how some projectiles like ice, knives, telekenetic, etc.. are blocked but if its a high attacked it should be blocked.

low attacks such as Mileena's roll should read as such and be blockable only by low blocks. Im not saying make it unblockable. UGH Now if you ever want to make your own suggestions to specials instead of critiquing everyone elses feel free to, since you have yet to make a post non related to any other users. (which is the primary point of the thread)
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rayden4u2335
06/02/2011 12:25 AM (UTC)
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Make Stryker's EX roll toss to be a mid so he has some mixup opportunities.
Be able to dash cancel out of subby's ice puddle
Make Jax's ground pound dash cancelable and have the EX version have less frames
Make Sheeva's flying stomp able to be steered either in front or behind the opponent.

My suggestions and no, I'm not criticizing the users because I don't know them personally unlike thegod who has stooped to all new lows in calling me a "retard" I'm criticizing the ideas contributed by the posters in this forum which most of the suggetions in here being sub-par.
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Claxton
06/02/2011 12:59 AM (UTC)
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Kanos buff has changed his gameplay dramatically. To those who say he hasn't got combos, get yourself in practice and learn his fucking movelist. He has BRILLIANT mix ups, punishing combos, and his special moves are off the chain.

His up ball is in my oppinion the most irritating special in the game. Even on a block its extremely difficult to punish. Ermacs tele slam works as a decent counter, but most moves dont seem to start up quick enough before the up ball hits again.

His knife throw needs to be slowed down slightly.
His damage, and combos are fine. If ANYTHING he needs a small nerf to his knife throw and up ball.
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/02/2011 04:00 AM (UTC)
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Claxton Wrote:
Kanos buff has changed his gameplay dramatically. To those who say he hasn't got combos, get yourself in practice and learn his fucking movelist. He has BRILLIANT mix ups, punishing combos, and his special moves are off the chain.

His up ball is in my oppinion the most irritating special in the game. Even on a block its extremely difficult to punish. Ermacs tele slam works as a decent counter, but most moves dont seem to start up quick enough before the up ball hits again.

His knife throw needs to be slowed down slightly.
His damage, and combos are fine. If ANYTHING he needs a small nerf to his knife throw and up ball.


funny because ive already demonstrated that his combos suk balls and his ball is punishable, but after playing online i realized ppl really suck ass at doin the the most simplistic tactics and then bitch. Buff kano
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rayden4u2335
06/02/2011 04:02 AM (UTC)
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no matter how much you ask they aren't gonna buff kano. in fact they are nerfing him
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/02/2011 04:44 AM (UTC)
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theyll buff him, watch

if they buff jax and kabal, kano will get buffed, and that nerf shit isnt anything to be excited about i understand ppl are scared because kano isa beast, im not asking for him to get faster recovery, just get rid of the stupid cap its retarded gimme a legit justification on why that makes no sense
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rayden4u2335
06/02/2011 05:00 AM (UTC)
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"theyll buff him, watch

if they buff jax and kabal, kano will get buffed, and that nerf shit isnt anything to be excited about i understand ppl are scared because kano isa beast, im not asking for him to get faster recovery, just get rid of the stupid cap its retarded gimme a legit justification on why that makes no sense"

ugh we gave you a million and 1 reasons why Kano doesn't need nor deserve a buff but since your head is as thick as the metal plating on Kano's laser eye there is no convincing you.

BTW if you're so good with kano why are you worried about him getting buffed so much?
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/02/2011 05:13 AM (UTC)
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well retard if everyone around him can do ridiculous shit why not my fave? You try to use logic but fail considering your whole argument of he has tools is fukn invalid as hell

thats like saying that since guile has great zoning he should be weak -_-

theyve been crappin on kano in various ways, but then mk9 came out and i thought maybe they would give him his full potential, but combos nope

but considering what you said about cyrax lets me know you need to pick up your combo game

sttill no valid argument against his damage cap
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rayden4u2335
06/02/2011 05:19 AM (UTC)
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so u basically want kano to have higher damage. you want an average bnb for kano to do what? 50% 60% why not just give Kano an insta-kill button ffs.

fast projectile
great AA
low juggle starter
overhead groundbounce

all of these are great to Kano but one little thing is that he doesn't do the most damage in the game? cmon man
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/02/2011 05:34 AM (UTC)
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do you think scorpion doing a 44% is valid because he has lots of tools also as you keep saying?

shit ill lay it out for you what i think would make sense in GENERAL for damage:

simple bnb: mid 20's

entended bnb: high 20's to mid 30's

3 bar Ex combo: low 40s to mid 40s

and if you can combo into an xray thats when a damage cap would make sense

furious
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Claxton
06/02/2011 11:24 AM (UTC)
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Your so worried about Kano having 'little to no combos'. If he is your main you shouldnt be worried at all. MY brother plays kano (I personally cant use him) and he destroys with him. Hitting 30+% combos whenever he feels the need to.

I swear he can do like 27% damage with 3hits as well. Kano doesn't need a buff, and he doesnt need more combos in his movelist. If he did then he would become extremely overpowered, and he would be broken.
But maybe thats what you want, for your main to be broken so you can win easier.

Whatever anybody says your not going to listen, i've worked that much out, and stop calling people 'retard' and such. It makes you look pathetic.
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bad kids, bad kids, whatcha gonna do sequel doesn't know what to do when he gets straight up shited by you.

06/02/2011 12:00 PM (UTC)
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looking pathetic to ppl who think makin kano like everyone else is somehow stupid because they suck against him after valid arguments, im not so concerned with

but hey who uses logic anymore right? guess not you

but even if they dont buff kano (jax and kabals max mid is 38 so why are they getting buffed?)....mileenas ball still should be a low hit and i fukn hate her

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