Garladors KOTW - Week 15 - Cyrax Discussion
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Hey there, people. We're back with another Kharacter of the Week to dive into and divulge their strengths, flaws, and hilarious quirks, laid bare for all to see, admire, and thoroughly mock.

We've been through Sheeva, Nightwolf, Mileena, Smoke, Shang Tsung, Stryker, Reptile, Sonya's boobs, Sonya Blade, Sektor, Johnny Cage, Baraka, Kabal, and Rain.

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This week, we cover our favorite net-tossing hotdog condiment-derived mustard-yellow black robot ninja person, Cyrax.

WHO IS CYRAX?
Cyrax, also known as Unit LK-4D4, is a Lin Kuei warrior who endured the cyber initiative to be turned into a deadly cyborg.

Or sometimes he's a Special Forces agent working with Jax and Sonya to hunt down the Black Dragon.

Or sometimes he's a Shaolin Monk who seeks a life of peace and redemption.

Geez, Cyrax signs up for every club on the campus, doesn't he? I guess he's trying to build up a good resume for his dream job.

(My resume is FAR more impressive, but NRS has yet to call me back...)

Strip all his prior jobs away and Cyrax, at heart, is just a good man who's done some bad things, got to a breaking point, and decided he'd had enough... only for the ghosts of his past to come back and haunt him. And by "haunt" I mean "turn him into a robot."

(not literal ghosts, mind you)

Cyrax is easily the most opinionated of the cyborgs, being very open about his preferences and distaste for certain things and people. He objected to the Cyborg Initiative, he left his clan out of disgusted, and he hated "Ninja Mime" with enough passion that he nearly killed Johnny Cage because of it.... Huh, I wonder why he took it so personally...

(Now if only I could do this to Michael Bay for ruining my childhood)

WHY IS CYRAX IN THE SERIES?
Cyrax debuted in MK3 during the robot-fad that MK had after they'd had their fill of ninjas (however temporary that was). During pre-production, before he had an official name, he and Sektor were codenamed Mustard and Ketchup, respectively.

(Doesn't matter which version you pick. They both taste like blood and motor oil.)

For some odd reason, they decided that "Mustard" wasn't threatening or tech-y enough, so later on he was given the very computer-ish name of "Cyrax". I don't know, I'd like to have heard others call him "Mustard".

(I always demand my mustard fear me before I put it on any of my burgers. It needs to learn it's place, after all.)

Cyrax left a strong impact and was one of the more popular characters of MK3. He was the second of three prototype cyborgs hunting Sub-Zero, and he was, at the time, the most mysterious of the group. I mean, we didn't even know he was black until MK4.

(though we seem to have forgotten Ermac was as black as Jax was at the time....)

Cyrax's popularity caused his initial absence in MK4 to be sorely felt, though to be honest, MK4 quite foolishly didn't include ANY of the new MK3 fighters in the game.

(but it's okay. We got Jarek instead. He's much better than all those MK3 duds, right?)

MK Gold rolled around and Cyrax was back, and not only was he back, he had his soul restored. Not only was his soul restored, he was one of the good guys. And not only was he good, he was black! Thus, Cyrax became the coolest black cyborg ever.

(This guy doesn't know kung-fu)

CYRAX'S STORY-
Cyrax's bio states that he was once a poor Motswana warrior with mystical Motswanian chi powers that joined the Lin Kuei... either because he was abducted as a kid or because he saw an ad at a recruitment station somewhere in his village.

(But would you be a Chinese Ninja Warrior with a heart SOOOOO cold?)

Fast-forward several years. In the original timeline, Cyrax didn't show up until MK3, where he was one of two cyborgs hunting down the now-rogue Sub-Zero. In this timeline, Sub-Zero beat Cyrax senseless and reprogrammed him to kill Shao Kahn. Only problem is that Liu Kang did that before Cyrax could, and in typical computer logic, he just stood around in Jade's Desert waiting for new orders that never came.


Yeah, Cyrax was there a long time, apparently...

("Should I move? Nobody told me I could move. This kinda sucks. See, this is why robots always become self-aware and take over the world.")

Eventually, he was found by the Lin Kuei but he seemed different, forcing Sektor to keep tabs on him. Later, the Special Forces encountered him during the events of MK4 and, somehow (through the power of deus ex machina) they managed to restore Cyrax's humanity through the power of friendship and love or something.

(the Special Forces' most feared weapon)

Cyrax then joined the Special Forces and served as a scout to Outworld... only he was attacked by Reptile, who damaged his transporter, and misled by Nitara into finding an orb to help separate her realm from Outworld in exchange for being sent back to Earthrealm.

He then strangely vanished from the series until Armageddon, where his only noteworthy deed was getting tossed around by Sheeva and dying.

Hit that reboot button, Jimmy.


In this new timeline, we discover that both Sektor and Cyrax were at the MK1 tournament as paid fighters on Shang Tsung's payroll, along with the original Sub-Zero, Bi-Han.

They... actually don't do much except pad out the story mode arbitrarily, though it does give us insight into Cyrax's character and personality. After picking a fight with Scorpion (and losing), and seeing Sub-Zero burnt to a crisp, Raiden decided to do what he does best and meddle in the affairs of other people who never asked for his help or wished for him to hang around.

(Like this, only without a laugh track or a stock audience faking applause)

Cyrax already carried doubts about the fallen honor of the Lin Kuei with the Cyborg Initiative underway, but he then realized that they were playing right into the hands of their enemies. When he tells Sektor this, they both rationally and calmly discuss the situation and use their intelligence and intuition to do the smart thing and dissolve their ties to Shang Tsung....

Nah, I'm just kidding. Sektor's an idiot that thinks "thinking" is overrated and decides to fight Cyrax after he fails to kill Johnny Cage, leading Cyrax to beat him unconscious and quit the Lin Kuei.

(Nothing tells your boss "I quit" better than a boot to the head. Remember that.)

Now, here's the part of the game with Cyrax I think they screwed up a tad. See, Raiden's messing with time and ruining things for pretty much everyone. In this case, however, we see Cyrax quit the Lin Kuei before the events of MK3 rolled around. That would've been a great opportunity to get him to join up with the Special Forces during the MK2/MK3 era, as a human perhaps, or do give him the "on the run" rogue storyline that Sub-Zero once had that his game utterly ignores.

But... nope. Next time we see Cyrax, he's not only with the Lin Kuei again, he's doing his best Inspector Gadget impression.

("Go Go Gadget Buzzsaw!")

Cyrax then becomes a punching bag with none of the humanity or personality or, well, appeal that his human version had. None of the witty banter, none of the internal conflict, none of the cocky confidence. I mean, yeah, he's a robot now, so that makes sense, but you know what else that makes him, character-wise?

(Bland, boring, and generic)

There's a pretty good reason the MK team gave him his humanity back over 10 years ago, and gave Cyrax a chapter in the game when it would've benefited the story and so many other characters to have one. Cyrax is a good character, but his robot roots held him back from being an expressive, characteristically memorable character. The "soulless robot villain" role is already filled by Sektor, so what could Cyrax offer that was any different?

(Well, besides nets, buzzsaws, bombs, and being a black ninja in pee-yellow armor...)

Anyway, Cyrax becomes a grunt, gets beat up in the finale, and disappears before the end of the game without any mention of what happened to him. So that means...

CYRAX'S FUTURE-
Cyrax will be back. Beyond the fact his tournament presence has been profound, he endured the Story Mode's "great purging" and is still on the loose, allied with the Lin Kuei.

The question is not whether he'll be back or not; the question is whether he'll be good again with a soul or still a mindless, soulless killing machine. Unlike before, this game doesn't have him being reprogrammed or reawakened by anyone, and Cyrax didn't show any signs of any lingering soul coming back or any burgeoning self-awareness.

("I'm scared, Dave. Will I dream?")

Cyrax's Arcade ending, however, just skips that whole "find a way to give him his humanity back" and has him with his mind and soul restored and joining the Shaolin Monks as a warrior of Light. That's... quite a difference from how Story Mode left him.

(Pictured: Cyrax not wantonly turning everything around him into a bloodbath)

NRS has made no secret of the fact they find Cyrax with his humanity restored a more interesting character (given that they've done this about three times with him now, in some way, shape, or form), so it's entirely possible we'll retread old ground again and have Cyrax get his humanity restored in a sequel...

... Or he'll stay on as a Lin Kuei lackey doing what Grandmaster Sektor wants him to do and being a potent threat to the remaining Earthrealm heroes.

(all, like, three of them)

Overall, I liked Cyrax, but at the same time I found him extremely lacking in other areas. Unlike nearly every other hero, we never get a sense that Cyrax cares about anything or anyone other than himself. He has conflict with Sektor, and mild hints that he was friends with Bi-Han, but he never really mourns his comrades, never really makes friends with anyone, never really expresses any outside desire to do well by anyone but himself, and that limits his appeal. All the other heroes have someone or something else that's driving them forward, whether it's Jax rescuing Sonya, Smoke looking out for his friend Sub-Zero, Stryker concerned about Kabal, the brotherly bond of Liu Kang and Kung Lao... Cyrax, however, is all alone and has nothing and no one driving him forward.

(Forever alone)

At least in the prior games, he had friends and allies with the Special Forces, which was somewhat unique. His Arcade ending has him joining the Shaolin Monks, but all the major Shaolin Monks in this game are dead, so there that plot-thread goes.

I don't know. I know Cyrax is coming back, but I struggle with what can be done with him. We've already had his humanity shown, taken away, restored, reverted to original state, turned again, and potentially restored in an ending. He keeps going through that cycle, and it's getting a bit old. I don't want him to stay a villain, but I don't want them to keep restoring his good side either.

Cyrax, despite being ALIVE, is probably one of the least predictable and least stable characters in the franchise. He joins organizations at random, gains and loses humanity like chips at a casino, and nothing he particularly has ever done or had done to him feels natural or sensical. Cyrax, whenever he appears, is always different, acting different, looking different, and allied with different groups and people on every spectrum of the good and evil scale. For a "machine" man, he's less stable than Windows Vista. Whoever programmed Cyrax did a terrible job.


Still, he's popular, and alive, and a strong contender to return in a sequel.

So speak up! What should be done with Cyrax? Good? Evil? Neutral? Humanity restored? Soulless machine? The Lin Kuei? The Special Forces? The Shaolin Monks? Is he better as a human or machine? Did you like his original storyline, or do you prefer his new one? Or do you simply think he took Smoke's old storyline and it's just a bland rehash now?

Let me know, and let me know who should be next on the chopping block!

Okay folks. Been fun. Garlador out.
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MortalMushroom
11/13/2011 05:34 AM (UTC)
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I think Cyrax is cool. He's pretty much back to how he was around MK3, and that's sort of what I expected. This was a reboot, after all, and for him to become a good, likeable character, we'd have to wait. That's a downside of the whole reboot thing, you've gotta wait for things that you probably know are going to happen.
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11/13/2011 09:22 AM (UTC)
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I think Cyrax should be turned good again,because,as you said,Garlador,that evil soulles killing machine spot is filled with Sektor. Plus,we NEVER saw AFTER he got his humanity back as a cyborg any type of confrontation with Sektor. THAT,I think,was a missed chance,especially in MK Armageddon,where Special Forces and Tekunin were becoming new rivals.

I think Cyrax should be joining Special Forces again,or should I say,OIA(depends on Sonya's moral condition if MK9 arcade ending tells us anything),because,let's admit it,it is gonna be tough for Sonya without Jax. I want Sonya to restore his humanity and him and Kenshi being Special Forces agents again (with Kenshi helping Ermac to become a good guy,just like in old timeline,I think nothing better can be done about that)

And therefore,Sonya will be promoted as the leader of OIA,while Kenshi and Cyrax will help her against Shinnok forces, Who knows,maybe Cyrax will be able to help revive Jax?
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11/13/2011 11:43 AM (UTC)
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Cyrax is one of my Favourites, I prefer his as Part of the Special forces.

Also lol at the use of the Zero Punctuation guy.
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11/13/2011 05:25 PM (UTC)
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That bottle of ketchup looks fantastic! Just look at Sektor's eyes and the "nose" lol -> This ketchup is so bitter.

As for Cyrax, I don't care that much what they do with him story wise but I do want him to stay a robot. I just don't care for human versions of him and Sektor. Plus, both of their robot designs are badass. Since Sektor is evil, I guess I'd prefer Cyrax to be good.

His gameplay is fantastic! He's so much fun to play with and he's also very cheap lol. His resets are sick and I don't believe NRS will be able to get rid of them since he's got so many tools. I'm sure Cyrax players would always come up with something new.

Gets a LIKE from me for his MK2011 showing and I want him back. I also love his MKDA design so I wouldn't mind if they pick that one as an inspiration for his next design. Honestly, I wouldn't mind his present design to return unchanged either.
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11/14/2011 12:39 AM (UTC)
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You probably read this quite often from other members on this website, but your KOTW threads are highly amusing and is something I look forward to reading.

The topic of this week is Cyrax. I feel that he is one of the freshest characters included in the Mortal Kombat roster with his unique arsenal of special moves, addicting game-play, and intriguing story.

In Mortal Kombat it's rare to have a character change alliances and when I think of those instances I think of Cyrax first. Having Cyrax first appearing as a villain and siding with the more morally inclined characters is a key moment in his entire story. The reasons too on his change has to do with his desire to feel human again, suddenly the cold and remorseless machine is now an actual thinking and free willed being, but he's not entirely human. A cool aspect to focus on in Cyrax's story would be showing his actual guilt on the things he has done when working for the Lin Kuei, and having him side with Sonya and Jax to help humanity is contrary to his old self.

When first playing Deadly Alliance and finding out that Cyrax joined allegiance with the Outworld Investigation Agency it seemed like an unusual twist but it sparked my interest and made Cyrax seem like a more wholesome character.

Having the kind of weapons that Cyrax has on him and using them for goodness sake is a bit ironic but at the same time makes him unique on top of his yellow armor.

The only thing I can say that is lackluster about Cyrax is the amount of abstract story we have about his past, but that's a common thing most of the Mortal Kombat characters share. With each new game released I anticipate Cyrax developing a feud with Sektor touching on themes of morality and man versus the machine.

When thinking of Cyrax I believe I'm going to make some Hot Dogs for dinner and coat them in mustard. I hope to see one day Garlador cover every character to date with these KOTW threads. Keep em' coming
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11/14/2011 04:48 AM (UTC)
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Stop being awesome.
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11/14/2011 08:08 AM (UTC)
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I look forward to these every week, it's why I keep coming back to MKO. And I've always found it odd how Cyrax has been allied with almost every group at least once. It's like NRS isn't quite sure what they want his alignment to be quite yet, I honestly want him to return because of this.

Also can I vote Jade for next KOTW?
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11/14/2011 09:49 PM (UTC)
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I like cyrax. I actually mained him when MK 2011 first came out, and then he became top teir, so I only play him every once in a while. I also liked his new storyline. However, his story is always so choppy. Can't he ever decide what he wants to do?

I think that for the future he should become good again but not sure if he should be human or robot. I would say that he should stay cyber and be good, but sub-zero kind of filled that position. So maybe some new form that has a half-cyber half- human.

Anyhoo, great read as always. I love the comedy in these KOTW. Jax and kitana for request.
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11/14/2011 11:37 PM (UTC)
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Good read, as your norm.

Yeah. It's really sad we didn't see either the process of Cyrax and Sektor becoming cyborgs, or what happened to him after he got his yellow metal butt kicked by CSZ.

I've always like Cyrax, but he really wasn't that interesting in story mode (after cybernization) as he just became a grunt punching-bag. He looked good, both human and cyborg, and I like his moveset and play style, though I'm no good with him.

I really hope he regains his humanity, becomes good again, and joins SF somehow...

Looking forward to the next thread.
Maybe Kenshi (yeah right) for next week. ..?
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11/15/2011 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Yay! I can shut up now!

But seriously, thanks for covering him at last.

Cyrax feels like the most versatile character in this game for me. He's very fun to use; a good Cyrax player can completely control the battlefield.

I think Cyrax came out okay from MK's story mode. No surprises, and they only built on his pre-existing history without fscrewing with it much. Everyone knows how I feel about Smoke, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that I appreciate the fact that Cyrax got some serious exposure too - his character benefited from Story in ways I wish Smoke also had. Honestly, his personality was what I had always envisioned Smoke's as being a lot like, but w/e. Prior to this he's had no real defining character traits apart from being the one to begin retaining enough awareness on his own that he became the successfully reformed cyber-ninja. He and Sektor certainly made their presence felt. Always saw him as the middle ground, the guy who stuck around for loyalty reasons, but questioned the necessity of the process. It's good to be partially vindicated, and I don't mind that he also joined the ranks of the deserters. Smoke's Arcade ending hints at big enough things for him that I'm perfectly content with the man vs. machine conflict being Cyrax's angle instead. He got the good resolution out of it originally, anyway.

I was a little disappointed that he wasn't reprogrammed by Sub or Smoke however. Maybe it's just me, but I've always assumed that Sub tinkering with his systems was what started his systems really malfunctioning and resulting in 'flashbacks'. In this version, Sub hacks Sektor a little - if that's the equivalent, maybe we'll see Sektor start losing his shit soon....though I doubt it, as he seems fully cognizant and aware, not having been forced into the process the way Cyrax was.

I wouldn't mind if he became human again. He certainly seemed a little closer to a traditional assassin than someone who walks around with a flame thrower and wrist rockets (sorry Sektor). But that's the Lin Kuei for you. Onward and upward with the tech. I had no problems with him joining the Special Forces in the original timeline. Wouldn't mind seeing it again, as I somehow doubt his Arcade ending will come into play.
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11/15/2011 07:08 AM (UTC)
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Cyrax sucks balls.
I'm sorry, I really don't mean that, but his is one of the most fucked up stories in the entire series now that so much has changed with the canon. They had a golden opportunity to keep him human, to have him join the heroes early and not become automated while Sektor and Sub-Zero became machines, but now it's just plain stupid. Raiden's interference did NOTHING to change Cyrax's story, except make him more tragic than he was in the previous canon.
To be fair, I never thought for a moment in the entire series that Cyrax regretted becoming a cyborg; in fact, I always assumed that since he was the second prototype, he volunteered, not opposed, so it was an interesting change to his personality, but made him too tragic. I'd have rather he decided to repent his evil ways in a similar fashion to MKGold, not get all complicated about being a bad-guy with no control of his actions...
Overall, I'm just disappointed with how Cyrax was portrayed, and how he wound up in his endings. To be fair, if he did join the White Lotus as a replacement for both Kung Lao and Liu Kang, that could make for an interesting story, but it all comes down to NRS to decide which of his endings is canon in MKX.
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11/15/2011 08:22 AM (UTC)
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I also would've preferred Cyrax to be a willing volunteer who comes to regret it AFTER the fact once he regains his free will and realizes what he had given up, like the original timeline implied. Making him feel exactly the same about it as Smoke and Kuai is just homogenization, not to mention it stole their spotlight as the rebels of the clan. Leaving the clan is SUPPOSED to be unthinkably rare, not something everybody but one guy wants to do.

I've only ever liked Cyrax's character direction when he was with the Special Forces though. He and Sektor as a team doesn't work for me, they just come off as clones of each other when they're together, or at worst, Sektor becomes the only one with a personality ('cause why wouldn't a soulless automaton have an evil laugh, amirite?) and Cyrax becomes no different from all those gray cybermooks (which shouldn't fucking exist. Did NRS actually read any of the old bios for research before they started writing, and if so, what part of the word "prototype" do they not get?)
And if they went in the direction of his ending, I'm never going to buy a robot as a monk, he needs to be with a tech-y group. How could the Shaolin even help him with any of his problems? Yeah, meditation is real helpful when your brain can literally be changed by plugging in a keyboard and typing whatever you like...At least if he was rolling with Jax, he could actually BE de-programmed, someone could repair him when he's damaged, they could dismantle some of the armor, clone a few new organs, and help him get more of his flesh/humanity ba--oh wait, that's right, Jax is one of the dead ones. 'Cause that makes sense, it's not like he's irreplaceably important or anything, I'm sure Sonya can handle all by herself all that genius engineer stuff he used to do that's central to the SF/OIA's ENTIRE LINE OF WORK like computer hacking and cybernetics and building portal machines...

And here's a question: what the hell does he care so much about chi for when his special moves are all tools and gadgets? He throws potions and smoke bombs, he's got a mechanical saw on his wrist, am I supposed to believe he makes that net out of magic energy just 'cause it glows? Look at the animation, he's pulling it out of his belt. How you gonna whine about human skills being better than tech and then fight like that? That's just hypocrisy. This dude doesn't have any fucking chi powers, he's got Batman's utility belt. You don't see Stryker running out of bullets and going "Shit, my mana's all drained." That don't make no muthafuckin' SENSE!
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11/16/2011 06:46 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
And here's a question: what the hell does he care so much about chi for when his special moves are all tools and gadgets? He throws potions and smoke bombs, he's got a mechanical saw on his wrist, am I supposed to believe he makes that net out of magic energy just 'cause it glows? Look at the animation, he's pulling it out of his belt. How you gonna whine about human skills being better than tech and then fight like that? That's just hypocrisy. This dude doesn't have any fucking chi powers, he's got Batman's utility belt. You don't see Stryker running out of bullets and going "Shit, my mana's all drained." That don't make no muthafuckin' SENSE!

*standing ovation*
Agreed on all fronts, I actually forgot his little speech. Ugh, why did they fuck with Cyrax?! sad
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Jaded-Raven
11/16/2011 07:36 AM (UTC)
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Well, so far in the current timeline, Cyrax is where he should be - unknown! He might be stuck in the desert now actually. His story didn't develop any further before MK Gold in the old timeline, and the current timeline hasn't come that far just yet. We'll see what happens with him in the next game, hopefully. ^^

Good thread as always, Garly.
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11/16/2011 07:38 AM (UTC)
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That blade on his wrist in his human form is the best thing MK9 did for Cyrax.
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Nephrite
11/16/2011 11:06 AM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
That blade on his wrist in his human form is the best thing MK9 did for Cyrax.


Heh, I actually don't like it, it's kinda plain and a little too big (if I remember its size correctly at the moment).
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RazorsEdge701
11/16/2011 03:29 PM (UTC)
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I agree, the blade is a little silly looking. It's only there 'cause the robot version has one and they can't have different moves.
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11/16/2011 04:12 PM (UTC)
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Good read.

If they do continue his story based off his Arcade ending, I hope he changes back to his human look (somehow), but not wearing monk clothing, I don't like Liu Kang's and Kung Lao's Secondary costumes. I never liked Cyrax's Primary attire since day one, so when I play as Cyrax I always choose the human form.

I liked how they focused a bit on him in Story Mode. Gameplay wise, he's full of rape. What's interesting is that the human form attire feels like a new character to the roster in some aspect, like the special moves and Fatalities are different from Cyber and Human forms. Example such as teleporting. Cyber form disconnects his body and reassemble. Human form goes ninja style and uses a smoke ball and reappears the same way.
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Nephrite
11/16/2011 09:21 PM (UTC)
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^ There are actually differences in the properties of certain moves between the human and cyber versions, hence the human versions (both, Sektor and Cyrax) were, and I as far as I know still are, banned from tournaments.
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11/16/2011 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Nephrite Wrote:
^ There are actually differences in the properties of certain moves between the human and cyber versions.


Can you provide more info on this?
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redman
11/17/2011 12:49 AM (UTC)
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Cyrax is aight. I don't really like him as a character, but he does have an interesting look and even though I like Sektor more, he's kinda cool to play as once in awhile. His gameplay is fucking crazy and nice, I love that they made him good this time around, (not that he wasn't in the previous games, because he was), but just because the Cyrax fans got what they deserved.

Nice KOTW Garlador, requesting Subbywubby next?
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Nephrite
11/17/2011 01:53 PM (UTC)
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WeaponTheory Wrote:
Nephrite Wrote:
^ There are actually differences in the properties of certain moves between the human and cyber versions.

Can you provide more info on this?


It was pointed out in the latest patch notes that there are still differences between the human and cyborg versions.


From what I remember from watching the tourney streams (not sure about this though):

* The teleport properties for Cyrax are different depending on the skin (I think the human version has a better teleport, less recovery maybe?) and I'm not sure if all the bomb traps and resets that work for the cyborg version also work for the human version.

* Sektor's 1, 1, 2 string has a different hitbox, the human version has a bigger hitbox and thus it is easier to connect it in juggles (the "2" part more often whiffs when cyborg does the juggles). I think there's a difference in his hurtbox while he's doing the up-missile (the human version has a smaller hurtbox I think).


These are just some examples I remember being mentioned on the streams before, but there could be more and I'm not sure if those examples I listed are correct (sorry).

The thing is, I hardly ever play with human versions as I don't like Sektor and Cyrax as humans and I find their cyborg designs badass, so I never bothered learning the differences. I'm sure more precise info can be found over at Sektor and Cyrax character forums at TestYourMight.
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RazorsEdge701
11/17/2011 05:57 PM (UTC)
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So from the sound of these skin differences, barely perceptible though they might be...the human versions are actually slightly superior in battle? That's kinda funny.

Take that, cyber-initiative.
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queve
11/26/2011 05:03 AM (UTC)
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Wow, that was an awesome read!

I wish I wasn't so stressed, sick, and busy with school and work to get back to your awesome KOTW threads, Garlador. I will (hopefully) share my thoughts in this thread and Rain's KOTW thread.

Again: Excellent job!
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