Okie dokie...I am currently a newb at MK:DA and have started playing it...I've started liking and playing BRC (Bo Rai Cho) a lot...even more then Scorp and since there is no definitive BRC strat thread I decided to start one. This can also double as a BRC community thread for those of you (if any) that also play w/ him...I'll go ahead by starting off w/ BRC related posts found on MKL's closed strat thread. Just remember that this is strat specific to BRC only...the reason why I'm making this is so that all other BRC users can have easy access to his strats/character matchups/combos/etc.

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MK_Legend wrote: Bo' Rai Cho:

also a simple infinite. branch, puke repeat. to do it from drunken fist just do the full branch(2,2,1,1,cs,2,cs) then i do 1 more hit with b+1 then puke and go back into drunken fist and repeat. u can also start it in Mi Zong a few ways. u can do 2,2,cs then add a b+1 for more gdamage then puke and then go into the infinite, or u can 2,2,b+4 or u+4 then cs and b+1 quickly and then puke and go into the infinite, or u can just do b+4 or u+4 by itself then quickly cs b+1 and puke then go into the infinite. in the weapon stanace use b+1 then b+1 again then puke and go into the infinite, or use 2,4,b+1 then b+1 again then puke and go into the infinite. what i like to do is after the b+1 ender i then switch into drunken and puke. this way the timer resets(cuz u cant puke right away) and when u puke in drunken it adds a back dash to it so they r right in the middle of the puke and there is no chance of the puke going just past them. remember that u cannot puke instantly after the b+1 u maust wait a sec b4 u do it. Bo has several tricks with the puke that no one uses if there r any Bo users who would like to know just ask here.

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MK_Legend wrote: ok heres a few good Bo setups. after the branch if u dont want to go into the infinite what u can do is switch to drunken fist and then take a step forward and hold block and do the puke, that way to avoid u walking back at all. if done right the puke will go past the opponant. when they get up use 3,2. it will push them onto the puke when they attempt to block then u get the combo again without the reduced damage of the infinite. another trick is when people r playing defencive vs drunken fist. at mid range wiff the d+4 and then at the end of the wiff animation puke. the puke will come out and if they try to punish the wiff they get caught on the puddle. remember this only works when the d+4 wiffs, it wont work on hit or on block. another thing u can do when people r trying to make Bo chase them while in drunken fist is to throw the puke then jump over it and do 2,3 then mix them up with d+4 or 3,2. even though u can interupt the follow up after 2,3 if they do then they will move forward with their interuption attempt and end up on the puke and even if they r a fast jaber and block the 3,2 they still cant respond because if they do they will still end up on the puke. what u can also do is do the puke and after u jump over it then do a move that is unsafe like drunken d+3. if they block it and try to retaliate they will move forward onto the puke. or if they dont take that bait then try throwing the puke and then do drunken b+4 then quickly mix up with d+4 or d+3. again if they try to punish the b+4 then they end up on the puke but heres the best part, if they guess d+4 and low block the d+3 will launch them on the puke. now while these puke then jump traps r good they struggle to work on characters like scorpion or hsu hao that can punish the puke attempt.

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MK_Legend wrote: Scorpion vs BRC:

this match is brutal. scorpion KILLS Bo. Bo cant use ANY specials on scorp. he cant puke, stomp or life up. puke and life up eat a hellfie and the stomp is a free spear no matter where scorpion is on the screen. Drunken fist is toatally worthless in this match. u can hellfire him most of the time even if hes walking/sidestepping. to avoid the hellfire Bo would need to use the tap up then hit block side step to avoid it or be walking forward B4 the command for the hellfire is done or by jumping aroind like an idiot. Pi Gua Moves way to fast for Bo so he will never catch scorpion uless he goes into Mi Zong and when he does this then hes very weak as Mi Zong is not a very good stance.

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MK_ Legend wrote: Sonya VS Bo:

well this match doesnt even happen..........Sonya gets killed badly. first of all to be able to bat Bo u need to ba able to do 3 things 1...cross safely/punish the puke, 2...be able to punish 3,2
and 3...be able to make Bo chace u and use the clock in your favor so that he will need to leave drunken fist in order to catch u. Sonya cant do any of thoe things. heres y.

1...cross safely/punish the puke:
the only way she can do this is by using the flying kick or the roll(TKD d+3) now the flying kick sucks cuz most of the time Bo can either block it in time or even if it hits u still land on the puke. now for the roll to work it must hit Bo and not be blocked. if it hits Bo then it pushes him back and u move forwaed past the puke. ohh just to mention that even if the flying kick or the roll gets blocked and by some chance u dont slip on the puke Bo can still punish u with the infinite so u still lose. ohh and 1 more thing, even if u get in on the puke Bo kills ALL characters in close when he is in drunken. all she has that is useful and safe is TKD 3 and thats only safe from the right range so if Bo blocks 1 mixup attempt u lose cuz u r getting hit with the infinite.

2. Be able to punish 3,2:
simple, sonya has no moves to punish 3,2. this move out ranges her, does 18% when it hits, and beats every move she has.

3. Be able to make Bo chace u and use the clock in your favor so that he will need to leave drunken fist in order to catch u:
OK, people always ask me "but y does sonya have to get in? she can just get up on life and run" that is wrong. Bo has a puke that once it comes out she cant do anything about it and he has a life up so even when u r up u still must stay close.

So in short Sonya cant run, she cant win when in close, she cant stop Bo from doing a life up, and she cant have 1 mix up attempt blocked, ohh and even if u trade the kiss for the puke Bo still recovers intime to infinite u so thats out too. If i were to fight this match i would fight just out side of puke range and try to time the roll when i see the puke to roll through it and hit Bo then i would pray that he doesnt block my next move(s).

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Versatile wrote:

Bo Rai Cho vs Kitana - Ok, Kitana has no chance here. Kitana cannot punish 3,2 so this means Bo can simply get in kitana face and REPEATEDLY 3,2 without having to worry about taking any damage but block damage. Any screw up Kitana makes leads straight into the infinite. Balanced? No, this is a slaughter.

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Versatile wrote:

OK BRC vs Kitana is impossible. Firstly Drunken Fist: 3,2 is a monster. Kitana can do nothing to punish it, she just stands there and eats constant 3,2's in the face. Blocking? oh well..bo will just change up and puke and then its infinite heaven. I mean..scre 3,2..bo doesnt even need that. 2,3 change ups kills kitana as it is. Shes a standing doll as her life slowly by surely chips away. 2,3 leads into d+4 which causes a trip stun and leads to a mix up. If they guess wrong they can and will end up eating the infinites.

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White_Pointer wrote: BRC's 3,2 knocks Kitana backwards, but it leaves a very small window of opportunity for counter attack if it's blocked. Kitana can punish this with a very quickly executed pretty kick. She recovers fast enough from a blocked 3,2 from BRC in Drunken to connect with it. The pretty kick is also a 3D move, so it's good to surprise your opponent with...they can't sidestep it and it must be blocked...and even if it's blocked, the opponent is knocked backwards slightly and kitana's recovery is fast enough to be able to counter anything BRC in Drunken can throw at her.

The puke is well telegraphed...you can see it coming a mile away, and unless you're trapped against the wall there's really no excuse to be hit by it. Kitana has an evade in Ba Gua that can be used to avoid the puke easily. BRC wants to taunt behind the puke? Good, let him, he'll only eat a fan impale. That's right...contrary to popular belief, the fan impale DOES come in handy sometimes and that's a perfect example. Once you impale him, he's the one who needs to play catch-up, so keep your distance and force him to change out of Drunken to come get you. Unless that opportunity presents itself though...don't impale. Unless your opponent is a moron they'll block or dodge them and you'll be left without the fans for the rest of the round. To mix it up a little, if you really want to punish Bo's puke, if you see it coming immediately, pretty kick. It'll cancel the puke if you are quick enough, and even if you are a bit slow and the puke comes out, the pretty kick will push Bo far enough backwards so that you won't land in it when you hit the ground. The pretty kick is the quickest move in the game to execute (it's just U+3 after all, not even b,f,3 or d,b,3) so use it as much as you can. If the Bo player is in Drunken you are assured of it being safe on block...but it's not safe if they are in Jojutsu or Mi Zong.

A good time to start high/low mixups is after a pretty kick, or if you impale BRC and he's needed to switch out of Drunken to chase you.


Also in the PAL version, Bo's infinite isn't nearly as prthisthingisdisabledent as it is in the NTSC. His full style branch combo cannot connect unless the opponent has their back to the wall (the opponent will stagger out of reach after the 4th hit, causing the 5th hit to miss and making the remainder of the combo blockable)...so the infinite cannot be started from Drunken Fist from the middle of the arena. Unless you have your back to the wall you won't need to worry about that. It can however still be executed from the middle of the arena from Mi Zong if your opponent times it well enough...so beware if they switch into Mi Zong at close range.

Make sure you always keep half an eye out for the puke. Kitana is very fast and can run circles around Bo, but if you do get hit by him, you'll sustain heavy damage, so tackle Bo both from up close and at a slight distance, and mix up. Don't try any of her large style branch combos or anything like that because they are next to useless, not to mention interruptable. Only use the combos if you're sure you'll fool the opponent into releasing block after you've given them a few single hits. Concentrate on hard, unpredictable and fast hits. Punish the puke as soon as you see it and you'll be on your way to winning as long as you don't back up into the wall and allow the infinite from Drunken.

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quan_chilli wrote:

First BRC's puke and stomp are very overrrated among you players. They're insanely slow and anyone who can't see them coming is an idiot. Kitana is an outstanding defensive player. Her sidestep into the Pretty Kick is very effective to push your opponent away. Same for her shove and b+4 in Eagle Claw. Quick sidestepping BRC's puke if she blocks his 2,3 isn't that difficult either and will get him hurt. Her 1,4,4,cs,3,f+3,cs,2,2,2,f+2 is a nice 40% combo. Follow that up with a 2,2,2,b+4 and you'll get his health in reasonable range to finish him off if he's stupid enough to puke again. I like taking risks so I LOVE her fan impale. If it connects It's over. Her pretty kick, b+4 in EC, and backflip secure her a victory as time will expire. Because by that time BRC will try to get in quick hits to catch up but even so Kitana is too quick and will sidestep his shit with ease for another combo to finish him. This isn't the only way to beat him because let's face it, you don't know what you're opponent will pull or do. As long as you know how to mix it up every match you'll be playing just fine with her. She's not the most powerful but she is quick enough to avoid someone like BRC unless the person playing as her tries to use her as an offensive powerhouse.

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_ne0_ wrote:

heh, white_pointer neglected to mention that if anything he posted gets blocked then u lose. and 3,2 is safe vs her as long as its spaced right.

now here the otherside to the kitana vs BRC(reality) as far as the puke goes once it comes out she cannot cross it which leaves BRC open to use 1 of the 99999999999 puke setups(see page 1) that will toatally destroy her. BRC has what i call the bo-kie-doke. BRC attacks with all safety. kitana will not punish anything. moves like 3,2 2,3 d+4 not to mention that BRC jab has super priority vs kitana, stuff like this really kills her. i mean if 1 d+4 hits then u r caught in a mixup that leads to infinite. so in short kitana can win if BRC never blocks her or interrupts her and she can win if she doesnt get hit at all and caught in the bo-kie-doke and she can also win if she doesnt get caught in 1 of many of BRC puke setups that work very well on players that play at the same distance that whit_pointer says he does.

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_ne0_ wrote:

now let me explain y kitana cant afford to get hit. BRC doesnt do small damage. u cannot attack drunken fist. if u get caught close to it then u WILL lose. once BRC gains the advantage kitana cannot come back. she will just eat move after move then eventually the infinite trying to come into drunken fist when she needs to attack. also if BRC should ever be up by say 40% then remember that once the puke does come out then she cannout cross it so this forces her to play kinda cose and try to use the pretty kick to stop that but now BRC isnt gonna do the puke. since u now MUST play at that range BRC will have no problem catching u and rushing u down.

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_ne0_ wrote:

ok..........this really shows how little u know about BRC and how to fighty him. drunken fist may walk slow but the moves in drunken fist r VERY fast. if he blocks the pretty kick he will infinite u.

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Versatile wrote:

No one ever overhyped bo rai cho's stomp. It's not a good move, it's just guaranteed if 3,2 hits, and guaranteed damage is always a good thing.

The puke is not overrated, especially when 99% of anything that Kitana does is blocked she eats it along with an infinite which = game over. Puke set ups are not overrated. d+4 stuns them long, and if stunned them for just a second or two longer the puke would be 100% guaranteed. But even though its not guaranteed its very difficult to avoid. Set ups such as 3,2,puke work well too. YOu block 3,2 and try to retaliate while bo lets out a puke. Yes, I take a bit of health, but your on the puddle slipping..leaving you open to what? That's right..the infinite.

This situation never happens with a good BRC player. you will never get to hit b+4 or the 40% juggle because bo is ALWAYS in your face. And even if you do get to use the 40% or b+4 guess what happens if you are blocked? Yup, INFINITE! Sory if I make it seem like Kitana only gets ripped by Bo, but she gets killed by all of the top 19. Sub gets an ice shaker off most of her blocked crap, frost gets her infinite as well, while big timers like Hsu Hao and Jax get massive damage as well.

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White_Pointer wrote:

Nah, that's not my problem...as I explained earlier...it's his style branch starting from Drunken Fist. The first 4 hits connect, but the 4th hit causes the opponent to stagger back a little so the 5th hit misses, meaning the remainder of the combo can be blocked...unless your oponent has their back to the wall, that'll happen 100% of the times it's tried, at least in the cube version. I must have tried it a million times and convinced myself of it.

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Versatile wrote:

MRS, is not that MKL is trying to say how good he is compared to white pointers. Hes just trying to point out how little of a chance Kitana stands against Bo. Look at all the things Kitana has to do to win. She has to never get hit by th puke which is a chanlenge in it self. She has to find an opening so that she can land the 40% juggles, but wheres the opening? Drunken Fist's never leaves Bo open if used correctly so she'll never hit it. She has to over come losing to block damage, for trust me, she can definately lose from just being pressured till the clock runs out.

Now look at what Bo Rai Cho has to do. He has to touch her once to end the game. This can be in either branch format or puke format or by setting up either one. He controls the match up, meaning he does the pressuring and the mix ups.

So you compare what the two have to do to win, and you can clearly see why in serious play Kitana cannot beat Bo Rai Cho. I mean, its "possible", but Kitana has to guess right all the time,never get hit by the puke, and somehow find a way to actually damage Bo without getting blocked. This is not going to happen, and that is why Kitana cannot beat bo rai cho.