Well, for one thing, if they could, there would be no story line, and no Mortal Kombat... At all... So be happy...

They could help, but choose not to. It is said that the Elders rule all reality, watching as realms are created and destroyed. They bestow duties to other gods, like potector, and that's pretty much what they do. No God will interfer with free will or get directly involved with a conflict unless the realm itself is under seige. An example of under seige would be Kahn's invasion or the battle with Shinnoks.

They care...they just don't want to get completely involved. Look at MK3. They didn't just throw Kahn out of Earth, but they also didn't just let him take it over. They made sure Earth's defenders had a chance to decide the fate of the planet in battle.

During the Outworld Invasion the Elders didn't have much authority. Had Kahn been successful in his invasion he would have been the ultimate ruler of all reality and would have authority over the Elders.

I think the Elders were more involved with Shinnok because he attacked them from the realm of Edenia. I guess the Elders were on defensive part when they were attacked

There is nothing to suggest that Kahn taking over Earth would have given him authority over the elder gods. The elder gods rule over all realms and Earth is just one of them. The only time Earth realm has been THAT important is when it was new and Shinnok tried to enter it and control it for himself with his amulet.

Actually there is. He will have unmatched power if his invasion is successful.

shakura is right, just because an earth realm may be overtaken by shao khan doesnt give motivefor any god to interfere.

outworld222 Wrote: shakura is right, just because an earth realm may be overtaken by shao khan doesnt give motivefor any god to interfere.

It's Sakura and it's Shao Kahn not Khan.

Doesn't it state in the words of Rayden "I cannot interfere any longer as your Earth is now ruled by the Outworld gods." That would suggest that Earth realm gods and Outworld also has its own.

Sakura Wrote: There is nothing to suggest that Kahn taking over Earth would have given him authority over the elder gods. The elder gods rule over all realms and Earth is just one of them. The only time Earth realm has been THAT important is when it was new and Shinnok tried to enter it and control it for himself with his amulet.

Yeah, but not Elder gods. I thought Raiden was below the Elder Gods in the hierarchy. He was a god just of one realm, so he was less powerful and important then an elder god. Same with Fujin. And then in Raiden's ending in MK4 he ascends to be an elder god and Fujin takes over defending the realm of earth or some crap like that.
Not that that happened, I know not all endings happen, just an example of the hierarchy at work.

Nikodemus Wrote: Doesn't it state in the words of Rayden "I cannot interfere any longer as your Earth is now ruled by the Outworld gods." That would suggest that Earth realm gods and Outworld also has its own. Sakura Wrote: There is nothing to suggest that Kahn taking over Earth would have given him authority over the elder gods. The elder gods rule over all realms and Earth is just one of them. The only time Earth realm has been THAT important is when it was new and Shinnok tried to enter it and control it for himself with his amulet.

Yeah, Raiden got owned in MK3 because he was simply a god of Earth. The Elder gods rule all realms.

Kahn DID rule Earth. Though it was only for a brief period of time he was the ruler of Earth and had it's power. Obviously he didn't have the power to destroy the Elder gods or whatever, because they're still around.


Elder gods > everyone.

Yeah, the gods gave earth a chance to defend themselves.

That was pretty nice of them.

BTW, i think it was in MKC that earth is described as the jewel of the universe, and that the gods want it to be kept safe.

But if Kahn was successful in his invasion he would have been the Ruler of all reality. Earth realm was the last of his Conquest. Once he gained ultimate power farther than he himself could imagine than he could have destroyed the Elders.

How do you know Shao Kahn ruled all realms but Earth? He didn't rule the Netherealm, did he? In fact according to UMK3, he tried to consume its souls and failed. And he didn't rule the Heavens. All we know is that Outworld once encompassed Edenia, Zaterra, Nitara's realm, and, briefly, Earthrealm, and was at least allied with the Shokan realm until MK3.

But as far as the elder gods not stopping Kahn or Shinnok from invading Earth, I would imagine it's because they renounce themselves of interference of the other realms; that's what Raiden is for.

Well if the gods did everything for humanity, then human would never learn anything. But like many said, they only get involved if the problem is way out of hand. And there are certain cercamstance. Like in mk1, raiden had to become a mortal to help the mortals of earth realm in mortal kombat.
Your talking also as if humanity is weak, which is probably why raiden helps earth realm. Because he has faith that they can accomplish things when there is doubt. Raiden gives them the chance to prove it.

xcarnagex Wrote: How do you know Shao Kahn ruled all realms but Earth? He didn't rule the Netherealm, did he? In fact according to UMK3, he tried to consume its souls and failed. And he didn't rule the Heavens. All we know is that Outworld once encompassed Edenia, Zaterra, Nitara's realm, and, briefly, Earthrealm, and was at least allied with the Shokan realm until MK3.

I don't think he meant that Kahn ruled all realms. It seems as if Kahn was going after those realms that had power and would make him stronger. If Kahn got his hands on Earthrealm, then he would have had power supreme and would have been able to conquer the Heavens and even Elders.


But as far as the elder gods not stopping Kahn or Shinnok from invading Earth, I would imagine it's because they renounce themselves of interference of the other realms; that's what Raiden is for.

I agree totally! The Elders apoint protectors so they don't have to get involved. In MK4 they were attacked directly which is why they fought. It even baked up in MK:DA when Raiden tries to get involved. As an Elder he is bared from interveneing, that is why he renounced his position.

Where are you getting that taking over Earth = able to defeat the Elders?

Sakura Wrote: Where are you getting that taking over Earth = able to defeat the Elders?

Why do you think shinnok wanted earth? Shao Kahn? Ultimate power was both of there goals and earth realm was there ticket.

We've seen Kahn take over Earth though. Kahn DID rule Earth and he didn't have supreme power over all realms, as he couldn't take over Earth's hell and he had no power over the Elder gods.


The only time taking over Earth would give someone powers over the other gods was when it was new and Shinnok was still an elder god. The amulet gave him the ability to go there and rule it without intervention from the other Elder Gods.

No! Kahn tried to take over Earth. And if the Invasion was successful he would have had power beyond imagination. But the invasion was prevented just before it was COMPLETE! he would have had power over all realms if the takeover was successfully done. Earth realm is the last of Kahn's quest for complete control. Why couldn't he take over Earth's hell? Who knows? Maybe because he cheated.

He stole all the souls on Earth 'cept the choosen ones. He had buildings erected in his honor. He did rule!

Subzero_5th Wrote: No! Kahn tried to take over Earth. And if the Invasion was successful he would have had power beyond imagination. But the invasion was prevented just before it was COMPLETE! he would have had power over all realms if the takeover was successfully done. Earth realm is the last of Kahn's quest for complete control. Why couldn't he take over Earth's hell? Who knows? Maybe because he cheated.

Subzero_5th Wrote: No! Kahn tried to take over Earth. And if the Invasion was successful he would have had power beyond imagination. But the invasion was prevented just before it was COMPLETE! he would have had power over all realms if the takeover was successfully done. Earth realm is the last of Kahn's quest for complete control. Why couldn't he take over Earth's hell? Who knows? Maybe because he cheated.

Where are you getting this from? You guys can't just insist "he would have power over the elder gods!" over and over and make it true. You've got to have a cite. If you've got a source that is canon that says this then tell us.

Nothing I know of points to Kahn having power over the Elders if he wins.

I can't see anyway that Kahn's invasion of earth was "incomplete." The chosen ones were just a last defense to win back their realm, but it seemed Kahn had total control. Netherealm is just... different somehow. Perhaps Shinnok had it protected?

...I just wish Raiden was still a pseudo-bad guy like in MK One

Sakura Wrote: Nothing I know of points to Kahn having power over the Elders if he wins.

In MKM, it states that Shinnok would have power unmatched if he get earthrealm.