I know what you meen. There are some non hardcore mortal kombat players out that just prefere mk2. There would probably be low to no lag with mk2, But you will get umk3 fan boys out there. Dont get me wrong i love umk3 (arcade). I think it would have been a better move to put umk3 in midway arcade treasures 2 insted of mk3.

Maybe Im giving Midway too much credit for marketing, but they probably knew down the line they would bundle UMK3 with something which is why they didnt package it with MAT2 (I guess the same reason they didnt put the original MK out with MAT2 but did include it for the premium ps2 version).

All that said, I really hope that an online MK2 makes its way to Xbox Live sometime soon (or maybe on the Wii). I love MK2 as much as I do UMK3 and I think it would be a crime for it not to be online on a major console.

I hear y'all, but I think Mortal Kombat II is the PERFECT MK game to go on Xbox Live arcade.. People are still Nostalgic about MK2... With the exception of the DIE HARD MK fans, not many are nostalgic about UMK3.. Hell, the masses of gamers didnt like MK3 to begin with!

MK3 marks the downturn in the MK series... thats just the facts.. we have to fess up to it. Also, MK2 would sell on Xbox Live arcade better, and be able to at least compete with Street Fighter 2 Turbo. I cant see UMK3 outselling SF2T, but its possible with MK...

Maybe I am typing this all for nothing, since Midway is gonna do what they want to regardless.. But let it be known, it will hurt them to NOT release MK2 online.. at least after UMK3 comes out...... Or sometime in the near future/ early 2007.

MK2 is a broken piece of crap and the only reason that people like it better than MK3/UMK3 is because of the stupid fatalities.

MK3 did not cause the downturn of the MK series. It improved the gameplay drastically, making it 100x better. UMK3 improved the gameplay of MK3 100x. That makes UMK3 1000x better than MK2.

Plus, MK2 is already on MAT2 and MK Shaolin Monks. MK2 has been overhyped for years, and I'm very glad to see another MK game instead of it on XBLA.

I strongly disagree with you on this.. but I see you are a die-hard MK fan.... Consider for a minute how this game will be received online.... Aside from the Dial a combos, what makes MK3 better than 2? And lets not even START with broken and MK3... One word.. Cyrax.... Need I say more?

MK2 was the shyt because it was the pinnacle of the series.... All UMK3 did was add characters that people complained about that werent in MK3.. SCORPION.. ( A whole new version... just because of Scorp)

Not to mention that UMK3 WILL be a lagfest......

You don't know anything. You will be enlightened by some other guys later.

are you stupid?


answer me this:how many games besides its own was mk2 featured in?3


umk3?none

now:think

Yeah, what he said. We've gotten a lot of crappy games already. Lets get UMK3!

They are also just releasing one game from each franchise, and it's the most popular one. UMK3 is what the people want.

SF2 fans who say they want to play MKII doesn't surprise me. They are both turtle fests, in other words, similar gameplay construct. Honestly, I wouldn't want to play anyone who wants to play MKII over UMK3 anyway so that's fine by me. Another reason anyone would want to play MKII over UMK3 is because they never played UMK3. Don't take that 100% literally. Saying they never played could still mean they played against the CPU, tried every fatality and disliked them. They still haven't played against people.

The majority of people who will be playing UMK3 online will be people who want to play others in a competitive game and not people who want to just see crappy fatalities. The people who want cool fatalities are in the minority in today's gaming scene. I think eventually they will release MKII on XBLA, but there's no reason to release anything but UMK3 first because it's a more serious game, it's a more complete game, it's a more challenging game, it's a better game.

Another factor here is, there's a lot of people under the age of 20 who probably never got to experience the 2D MK genre like a lot of us did, this any 2D MK game would be like playing a new game.

I'm going to be harsh for a moment. MKII is a terrible game. There's nothing about it that any resepectable fighting game player would find interesting. It is broken, slow, undeveloped, sloppy, has terrible control, and extremely boring repetitve 1 dimensional play. This is something that the SF2 fans like for whatever reason. UMK3 contains more of the gameplay qualities contemporary fighting game fans prefer, whenI say more, I mean 99% of fighting game fans. Everyone today likes to rush down and there are very few players left who use turtling effectively. UMK3 contains both of these aspects for a lot of characters.

No matter which game Midway puts on XBLA, they will all be well received, all played, even though mathematics will break them down over time quickly. If they introduce MKII after UMK3, there will be a huge boom for MKII, but after a month or so, a lot of people are going to say "Wow this game is much worse than I remembered." and move on to UMK3. Gameplay is important to keep games alive, this is why there are no MKII tournaments anymore and UMK3 is being put on XBLA.

Finally someone would admit on how much of a shitty game MK2 was.The fightning engine on UMK3 is my favorite out of any 2d fighter. MK2 is just sloppy and boring.

The MK fighting game community will have a great uprise when UMK3 will come out for Xbla

Wow. Cyrax? If you are going to say a character breaks a game, at least use a top tier character as the example. Like Sub Zero, Jax, or Kabal.

Although that still doesn't apply. The top tier of MK3 and more correctly UMK3 were no where near as overpowering as Jax and Mileean in MK2.

The top tier in UMK3 is about 10 chracters. The top tier in MK2 is 2. Add on top of that how underdeveloped MK2 gameplay was, the glitches (many more than there were in later 2D games), especially the death punch, which is so easy to get and considerable damage. The lack of damage protection. Do you know what damage protection is? If so you know why it was needed and it was a welcome addition to MK3.

And, from a personal perspective, I hate turtling. MK2 = Turtlefest.

i think that the run botton on umk3 makes it unrealistic and broken. mk2 rules

But why does it make it broken? Nothing breaks? Broken is when a single HP can register as 5 HPs causing a massive amount of damage. Broken is when you can simply roundhouse someone in the corner until they are dead. That is broken.

No, the run button doesn't make it broken. Unless you know what Broken means, or anything about competitive gameplay, please do not use that term, or any fighting game lingo. The majority of MKII fans like it because of reasons why people can also like MK3 and UMK3, and vice versa. Things that appeal to the senses.

amen bitches.
and dave101:are u insulting or serious

I'm insulting you. MKII was only on every version of midway arcade treasures and in Shoalin monks. It would make sense to keep putting it in, why change up the games? Plus umk3 is going to come to armageddon, aw hell, let's change that to MKII TOO!! YEAH!!! MK2!!!!!!!

...

on second thought let's stick with UMK3.

I played MK II back when it hit arcades way back win and I liked it then. Fast-forward 13 years later. Mortal Kombat II was good for its time but for me, its not as good as I remember. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 is the better game for me. It still feels fresh, fast, and I learn something all of the time. UMK 3 is a game where I can watch KungBroken's, ded's or Dreemer's vids and be like " I didn't know you could do that with Nightwolf. Let me go try that out"

UMK 3 is going to be a hit on Xbox live Arcade, no question about it. More Characters, intense, fast-paced gameplay will have you playing the game for hours on end trying to think up some crazy combos. I am still trying to do that Kung Lao infinite that juggles you across the screen lol.

UMK3 in two words to me is competitive fun.

@MK2KungBroken
you say the majority of people how will play UMK3 in Xbox Live will play for competition??
Sorry but thats complete false.
The majority is the one how plays it for fun, the people how play something for competition are ALWAYS the lesser one of course.
Most people dont care a shit about "competition" and thats good so....you know, its in first place a game that should make fun.

Most of the people how will buy UMK3 on the market place probably dont even play it Online much, they play it because its a classic game which bring back memories and stuff and they want to see some Fatalitys again yes, and want to perform Scorpions spear and make uppercuts and so on, you probably call something like that "scrubb" I call it "normal people".

This doesnt mean that there will be no "competive" player scene but most of the people will definitly not buy UMK3 on the market place for "competive play".

By the way, the whole discussion about MK2 or UMK3 will be probably eliminated because im pretty sure if UMK3 will be a success on Xbox live the will add MK2 or even MK1 sooner or later.

Honestly, I was (pleasantly) surprised that Midway didn't choose MKII for the Live Arcade. It was unquestionably the most popular MK of the arcade age.

If they released MKII first, then UMK3, most people would probably buy MKII for the nostalgia factor and then just ignore UMK3.

But with UMK3 as the first and only MK on the Live Arcade, it WILL sell. People who have more fond memories of MKII will still buy it... because hey, at least it's MK.

Then they could release MKII later on, and it WILL sell. Because that really is the one that the most people want. Then, as MK2KB said, the limitations of MKII will be exposed to the casual/new gamers... the nostalgia will run its course and they'll go back to playing UMK3.

I don't even think this was Midway's reasoning (more likely they just did it because it's the only 2d MK left for a home version), but coincidentally enough it just happens to be brilliant.

...*smacks head*

Killermiller:

People who will be playing on XBLA, as in, people playing others and not the CPU, will be playing for competition.

Mk2 isen'nt that good I mean come on no combo system and umk3 to me had my favorite characters Stryker,Cyrax,Sheveea,Sektor and unmasked subby. I love the combo system also.

Word my brother.

MK2 to me is dull and boring good for a while but the fun factor is slim.
MkU3 very fast and intense..

Now which one sounds better?

Just my thoughts anyway.