mike, it's you who has joined my discussion with sin, don't you remember? subject : who is the best umk3 character? message posted the 04/03/2005 9:39
so I never have brought you to my arguements before you join my topics.
moreover I hadn't been unpleasant with you neither, so calm down.
Matt's arguements are much more worthless than mine, indeed I quote him : " you got outrageous lucky wins against me", "you got lucky wins against thrower", "european players are not good enough..." etc

pierre

Nafa is the master of misunderstanding written language.

Its only accident where youre born so "European USA or Korean players" and similar things are silly
I dont understand why you both are so serious , its just a game , and when i play with someone better than me then im happy cause i can learn something
And if someone can prove that hes a master then OK
Try to record video when you beat whole game by Flawless victory in both rounds on every match
And even when its stupid AI , you can show us how good you are and how fast you react to his attacks and beat him wihtout letting him to touch you
Good Luck

bwwd, beating the AI isn't really an accomplishment, it's way different than playing a person. I could however probably show you many many different methods of beating the CPU with every character, there are a lot of things people don't know you can do. That might make for a cool video actually.

Matt

i know some cool things against AI including AI combos only, let me know Matt if you plan to do a vid.

sure, playing against computer is not funny at all, I remember of one or two little things: in mk1 arcade(rev5.0), pick liu kang against goro, jump towards the extreme left of the screen and then wait for goro and jumpkick him when he is approaching you, then while he tries to stand up, do the fireball move, again and again....goro wil be dead before he can do anything...too silly...this shows pretty well the diffrence between playing humans and cpu.
I also have some other stuff like that to make such a vid.

pierre

Yes i would like to see that , especially vs shao kahn without using uppercut & running tactics
I know , AI its just a program and hes stupid... but i just want to see how fast you are by beating him without letting him to touch you by any attack.
It should be funny how you crush the game by flawless victories

Well I wouldn't go as far as to say always getting flawless victories, there are inescable situations where you have to take hits, or at least block hits with certain characters. There are single methods that work with just about everyone on just about everyone, there are micro management AI breaks as well all over the place. Yeah I do plan on making the video now, it'll be pretty funny. Send me what you know, but I probably already know all of it

Matt

I was thinking for some time if I try to make a Superplay, this means, beat an MK Game all the time Double Flawless on the highest difficult.
There is such a "Superplay" for Street Fighter II: Champion Edition.
But the bad thing on MK games is that blocking cost energy, so its much harder to do this with an MK game (of course I am talking about the Arcade versions)

I can beat MK2 with closed eyes, but a perfect play is nearly impossible in one session (of course you could cut a video and let it look like its on session but that is cheating and lame).

There is too much random stuff, (Millena Telekick, Ninja Slide that comes to fast to jump from it ect.)

Beating Kintaro Double Flawless I already have done and with some Characters (for example Baraka) you can do the same with Shao Kahn, but beating all 12 normal fighters and the 2 bosses in one row flawless is too freaking much =(.

I really dont even thing about UMK3, I mean highest tower, 2nd Endurance Fight (3 Fighters a 2 Round without getting touched..).
I think this is impossible with beating the whole other crap allt ogether (Shao Kahn, Motaro and 6 other Characters and another 2 fighter endurance).

I know that some of such Speedruns/Superplays use savegames, and these guys call it "Tool Assisted" Superplays, but that is freaking stupid for a fighting game (and there no working savegame for MAME by the way).

You can check out the SF2 Superplay on this site by the way:

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/orochinagi/cyberfan/superplay/index.htm

Cool , this video should be interesting
And for SFII , i didnt see this superplay yet but i can beat many characters with only one button ,just push Strong Kick when he jumps or walk to you
Game is easy to beat on many characters( but not all) , just watch your opponent and press the button
Sometimes jump when he throws fireball or something
I played UMK3 about 2 days ago and you can do flawless victories with kabal on every normal character if youre fast, just use his tornado spin when cpu jumps to you or dont have control for some seconds on other move , its hard to execute it everytime but it is possible.Im not that good , precision is needed

There are some characters who you can beat UMK3 with without getting hit, it all depends on the CPU does off the bat, if they stand there everytime you can beat it without getting touched.

With Kabal you can run in, do a LP and they will go to sweep, and spin them out of their sweep, every single time.

Motaro and Shao Kahn I can get double flawlesses on with Ermac, Smoke and Scorpion, Motaro alone, many characters can. It's harder with the ones who can autocombo him with a JP or JK linker like Kung Lao. The mere fact you can get a double flawless systematically on any character in the game means it's theoretically possible. You can even do it all the way through and on the Mega Endurance. Just make sure you finish each character with an attack you can safely combo into a harpoon, so the next character comes in dizzy.

Matt

judging by wat i saw Nafa, your pretty good but defenitly not the best, cuz i know of at least 3 or 4 people i play with that u couldnt handle. so get off your high horse (been dying to say that, saw it on a movie)

Pz
SaDo

pm me to set up matches or give me your kaillera nick , so I will see if you're even good enough to judge my matches.

pierre

The audacity.

what's your Kaillera s/n? Mine is Mortal Kombat II (rev L1.1)

I'll play some MK2........

Hey nafa, i heard that you got babalitied by Moe30w the other day...thats not true is it? you know, since your the best umk3 player and all..

yes, Moe has performed a babality on a match...but it doesn't mean anything since I had 108 ms while he had 24 ms there ; I mean even you could have done a babality on me during some of these matches, cause of the indecent delay and lag I got . Now I wish to bring 2 more points here:

1) even being lagged and delayed as hell, Moe and I have won more or less the same number of matches, by the way I had asked sin to put the matches online or to give me these but he still hasn't done it yet ....

2) before Moe enters the dark addictz server, I was playing with sin there, and there is also a match I had won only by using low and high kicks .. so I also could have performed babality on him if I had wished...but I'm just less arrogant than you Mike, and I don't rush here like a dumb to say so useless and inflaming posts....but now cause of you it's done...
I don't want to know what you think Mike, that really doesn't interest me ... in fact you really don't interest me, you're no big deal.

pierre

Nafa, had you been able to participate in ECC10 last night, you would have gotten schooled by every player there.

I don't think I would be schooled by any of these guys, and for one good reason: I already know most of the best ranked players on there; moe, you, thrower... moreover, I also know some very good European players who were not there and that's a pity ! they certainly would have been well ranked...

pierre

Dude, you would have gotten so unmercifully owned. There wasn't single person who couldn't put you in your place without effort. That is fact.

same shit different day.

Nafa: europe doesnt have shit on chicago let alone the usa. we have more experience than you. If you come out like some other kids on these boards and say you can beat "anyone" in umk3, I better know you already, cos if I dont then you will have a very hard time proving to me that you are a godly player in umk3.

theres very little chance that you will beat matt in tourney play. im not talking about kailerra with lag. im talking about umk3 on a cabinet so you can get your ass handed to you faster than you ever thought.

take a chill pill and relax. maybe youll get to play some of our players someday and you may learn a thing or two ;)

-Lex

I also just realized something, Nafa you said you won a match against me using only LKs, but that doesn't matter because to perform a babality or friendship, you need to not touch block, that's the point Mike was trying to make, Moe beat you without ever touching block intentionally.

Let me dissagree

double post

no point cos youll lose man.

prove to me that europe has more experience in umk3 at high level play.

rest in peace son.