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psykosonik
05/30/2005 10:43 AM (UTC)
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i dont need to prove that, all you have to do is ask people around kailera that played with me (ded_ ), yes you have more experience but it was since 1999 maybe 2000 and only at wavenet.
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NMnafa
05/30/2005 12:58 PM (UTC)
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I don't know how I can be easier to understand, but Moe and I win more or less the same number of matches at DA server although I have a HUGE handicap there, indeed I had 108ms and it is unplayable, Moe had 24 ms and it's perfectly playable, so doesn't that mean that if I were playing any of you guys in my living room, (sinala, thrower, moe, even lex since he seems to be more or less of the same level than Moe, from the results of the 2005 umk3 tourney) I would probably win?
hardcore mk gamers don't live only in America, you have to know that.
it's just about being realistic.


pierre



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bbWWdd
05/30/2005 01:12 PM (UTC)
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Lex where did you played agains European fighters and how many times ?
This discrimination Europe is nonsense , you didnt play with all players from europe....
There are many players and they didnt start in any tournament cause they dont want to...
What would you say if you were born in europe and live here ?
Something like "USA doesnt have shit on Paris let alone the France. we have more experience than you" ??
Its only accident where youre born.Not your fault.
And by the way... congrats for 2nd place in tournament , where i can see those matches ? OK i have it grin
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blackwizard
05/30/2005 03:15 PM (UTC)
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its funny how you think your so much over my level. the point i was trying to make was that he beat you without even blocking like matt said, i think you have the two games mixed up oh legendary one. The fact that you come on here and say your better then most players including me is a joke considering you always use lag as a scapegoat to losing to moe or to sinala or whoever beats you.
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05/30/2005 03:19 PM (UTC)
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And before you even counter my post with something that goes like "oh well matt says the same thing" for one thing, matt doesnt brag about being great at the game. You do, and thats why you make yourself a target. From my recent memories from playing you, you weren't ever that great to begin with, maybe you just learned a few things and it had an effect on your ego.
Maybe one of these days, ill be able to play you and see for myself how good you've gotten or if your just a joke. but thats in the summer when i get my game back grin
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05/30/2005 04:35 PM (UTC)
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this isint discrimination, its the truth. this has happened several times in many games: some unknown ppl beat their friends and think they can beat anyone and rattle off in some forums about it.

any futher arguements just means you want to play me for 500 dollars first to 10, on an arcade machine. as far as that situation goes, the odds would be in my favor since I already know what bullshit you will try and I know how to counter it, and I would actually practice for such things.

using kaillera as your "proof" just makes you look like a complete moron. keep playing the game at half speed.

bottom line: all the people I know that play umk3 are the best players, since we have logged about 20x more hours than any kaillera based community, and we have played against the best players several times.

so your proof was " as ppl on kaillera" and "I win in DA", which amounts to ZERO hours of high level umk3 play.
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NMnafa
05/30/2005 06:05 PM (UTC)
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Mike,

can't you understand that people can't play at their best online cause of netplay issues? it's not an excuse, it's reality... If someone with a ping like four times yours joined your table and kicked your ass, what would you say? the guy is a joke?

about the "babality" episode, every player has already collapsed during some rounds...does that make of the player a joke cause he screws it up one round??

Have I to tell you about all the matches I have won against your "Chicago gods", even in terrible conditions for me... in fact it's like I had to play two opponents at the same time on kaillera; my ping and the other player...
and even like that I match or beat your guys...doesn't that mean anything for you?

when we had met on kaillera, in addition to playing in bad servers for me, I was still using the keyboard and I can't do anything properly with it...(I have already talked to you about that, but either you don't read me, either you're stupid) . so do you really think you have faced my true abilities?
if you do, you're the joke.


Lex,

Does "high level umk3 play" only belong to Chicago? Do you know that there are very good players elsewhere than in America ? take a bigger picture please, you're silly and vain in your last post .
moreover, there is something you don't know and that's why you mess up with me....I have begun to post results of my matches here because of a very unpleasant post about skewed results...ask konqrr for that if you wish...

one last thing : when I read you, I have the feeling you believe that I have begun playing mk with the netplay...if so, that's really funny... I have like some other players ten years of regular experience with that umk3 game, so if you think I wouldn't know what to do while playing, you definitely would face severe losses.

pierre
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05/30/2005 06:32 PM (UTC)
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Nafa, the one point I've been trying to make is, you probably play exactly how you do online, maybe a little more accurate, but in any event, the way you play is how people were playing maybe 6 months, to a year after the game came out, the game is STILL evolving to this day, you show no evidence of understanding that.
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05/30/2005 06:40 PM (UTC)
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im silly and vain?

coming from the guy that says he can beat anyone.

nice try. you lose. its time to put up or shut up.

"Does "high level umk3 play" only belong to Chicago?"

its where it was invented. you have a lot of catching up to do.
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NMnafa
05/30/2005 07:20 PM (UTC)
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Sin, I hope you're not serious when you say I play more or less the same when I have 0 ms instead of 108 ms...isn't it normal that one play much better in good conditions than with lag and delay?

Lex you have missed an episode, and that’s probably why you don’t understand anything : some months ago, konqrr had posted skewed results of my matches with sin and that's why I came here to respond to that unfairness, to bring some accuracies. But some people like Mike think I have said "I'm the MK god " I never have said that, I'm not vain neither, all I'm saying from the start is I'm much better than what you think, and if you guys had just a bit of intellectual honesty, they would come to that conclusion too, simply cause of my results online.
Mk was created in Chicago? oh well ... but you know, this game was released outside America too.

And sorry if it doesn’t suit you, but I keep saying that you have been a silly and vain guy in your post...rude and unpleasant too besides ( I quote you: “using kaillera as your "proof" just makes you look like a complete moron.”)

Pierre
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psykosonik
05/30/2005 07:36 PM (UTC)
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depthcharge i'm playing on arcades too, there is just no other way than kailera to play with ppl around the world, and dont try to be arogant with me funny run-jab creator, come to bulgaria i'll play you on any mk from mk1-mk4 for as much money you want, even if you beat me on umk3 i'll beat you on any other mk.

one last thing, didnt you sayied 2-3 years ago that there are no good players outside chikago? i know at last one outside chikago that can beat you... oh wait! he already beated you! lol


and if there is a mod here can he close this stupid thread!
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05/30/2005 07:36 PM (UTC)
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im sorry for being unpleasant and rude on the forums...

no use posting anymore as it was worthless to converse with you in the first place
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blackwizard
05/30/2005 09:51 PM (UTC)
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Nafa, I have never considered moe or thrower or even lex(never played lex actually) "chicago umk3 gods". Ive watched your matches, and your "supreme abilities" dont really impress me that much. I hope by some chance your able to make it to the next east coast championship and see how far your skills take you. For the kb issue, its not really my fault if you didnt have a controller at the time, and you never told me anything about using it in the first place. Like I said, if i ever play you online, then i GUESS i can see your "true abilities".
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05/30/2005 10:52 PM (UTC)
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Sorry, I don't mean to butt in to anyones threads but I was just curious as if there are UMK tournaments around the world and if so where are they? When are they held? What are the prizes? I am thinking MKO should organize their own annual tournaments. I'd appreciate any response.

Thanks
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05/30/2005 10:57 PM (UTC)
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On an added note, I just checked out a match on Kungbrokens site from ECCX, I believe it was Julian vs Lex, Unmasked Sub vs Kung Lao.......left me speachless. Was so fun to watch. I strongly suggest anyone to check that one out.
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bbWWdd
05/31/2005 12:15 AM (UTC)
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AHAHAHAHAAHAHAH nice match first round - almost every move was blocked
and next tround mhwahahahahahah grin
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05/31/2005 12:26 AM (UTC)
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I loved the ending of round one where the two jump kicks missed. And the next round, my goodness was great. :0
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05/31/2005 12:52 AM (UTC)
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As far as I've seen and experienced, there are no players outside the US who could stand up against the serious US players.

Nafa = scrub
ded_ = kicks Nafa's ass
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NMnafa
05/31/2005 03:17 AM (UTC)
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oh one more useless and inflaming post, well I get used to it.
about Ded, he beats me at his own headoff server right...but he will tell you himself that he has around 2 ms there and I'm around 75/80....between us the results just depend on the server in which we play.
now about you, I own you for free sin, even at your own dark addictz server....you don't remember? I just need the lk and hk buttons man...

I have watched the ECCX matches and I admit Lex is great there, in his match "sub zero vs kung lao" against julian...it was impressive....we can't say the same about you, indeed you had a terrible human smoke you know ! and in one of your matches why did you miss all the time your basic sub zero combo? (3 or 4 times) I mean you were even not able to do it until the last roundhouse kick so? oh let me guess, it was because of the lag right ? congratulations for having tried to inflame again this thread.

pierre

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blackwizard
05/31/2005 03:21 AM (UTC)
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"sin i own you for free"

someone sig that, just another classic line from frenchy.
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NMnafa
05/31/2005 04:10 AM (UTC)
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hey Mike, instead of bumping my thread with useless posts (like your latest besides), why don't you join my games at godweapon server? we were there last night, I had asked you if you wanted to play but you just had left the room without saying anything? am I so scary?

pierre
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05/31/2005 04:36 AM (UTC)
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Sub-zero can't combo off starters on the female ninjas, I was playing against Jade. Here are the pixel counts for the following combos:

HP, HP, LK, HK, B+HK = 44 pixels
HP, HP, LP, LK, HK, B+HK = 39 pixels
HP, HP, LP, LK, HK, standing blocked HK = 41 pixels

You stay in close enough to set up traps, and sometimes you get the standing HK clean because people try to rush in. In any event, against Jade I think I did 1 standing HK blocked and the rest standing LKs, because sometimes the HK misses. You don't understand the concept behind something like that because:

You compare Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 to "Rock Paper Scissors".

Normally, against all other characters, I would do kick starter, 6 hit combo, leave off the roundhouse, so you don't give them the full screen to deal with to regroup and space, and add the standing HK, which is 60 pixels. Doing the full 6 hit combo with the roundhouse, which puts a lot of distance between the two characters, is 58 pixels. In the corner I do kick starter, full combo with the roundhouse, to ducking LK which is 61 pixels, and on the Robots, Sheeva, and some others I add an extra standing HK to the combo, which is 70 pixels.

You happened to see a special case scenario because it was Jade, did you notice in the second round when I got the initial freeze I instinctively jumped straight up because I was going to do a starter? Whatever the case may be, didn't my strategy work? I mean, I set Rob up 3 times in one match with freeze and iceclone tricks using that method, and he's better than you are. By doing the HK, Rob ran in and got a blocked combo every time, after that his options are limited and he wound up getting frozen 4 times. He could either run in and combo a full blocked combo, after that he has no run bar, and then gets set up with freeze/iceclone on jump in or jump forward, stand there and get run jabbed, he could risk throwing out a dash kick, but that would be stupid, why do that when he knows I'll expect it. There are reasons for it and you don't know that. And in the first round the two anti air clones I got with the messed up HP to LP no freeze was me trying to get HP/LP glitch cancel to freeze, something else you'd never try.
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05/31/2005 06:04 AM (UTC)
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I was talking in my previous post about the following moments of your "subzero vs jade" match : 1) right after 0:34 2) right after 0:52 3) right after 0:59 and 4) right after 1:06

on these four moments, you don't perform the final roundhouse kick of your sub zero combo, I have read your response but I'm not sure to have understood it : indeed if you have done it intentionally, which advantage can bring you a missed hit? cause as far as I know, your following low kick can be simply blocked, and your standing hk will be effective only if your opponent try to rush you... I think I see which kind of traps you try to do against your opponents, but I doubt it's a good strategical choice. and once again here, it's about rock paper scissors, indeed someone who knows you very well will expect you to do your standing kick after your shorted combo, and just will wait for it and right after will perform a unblockable shadow kick with jade....it's obviously also about "what will he think I will think?" at least until to a certain level.
you can think your strategy works because it has worked against that guy that day, but your victory was in fact to my eyes as much thanx to your opponent than thanx to your strategical choice. to be clear, don't rely on that to win all the time....

One other point : during the ten first seconds of this match, we can see you trying to get hp/lp glitch cancel to freeze, but was that a good strategical choice? obvioulsy in that match at that moment it wasn't neither necessary neither useful...I mean what have you got because of your missed attempt? a ridiculous 11% ! if you had done the classic but effective " hp, freeze, hp, jump kick, slide" combo after the first freeze move, you already would have reached 36% ! and since jade was freezed twice in the ten first seconds of the match, you easily could have taken 72% of his life bar, right after only 10 secs of match !
do you understand where I want you to go? you have to keep an eye only on the effectiveness, and there is a part of the knowledge of the game that is sometimes better not to use(in our case, the knowledge of the glitches) and precisely that's also knowledge.

pierre

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05/31/2005 05:41 PM (UTC)
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about two weeks ago I had played with Moe at the Dark Addictz server, I have selected some matches from that session, i just have uploaded some of them cause of the space limitation, anyway here is the link :

http://www.membres.lycos.fr/brugesp/

I'm tired of all the blabla with sin, so I have decided to post more matches and less arguements. now more accuracies about these matches: I had a 108 ms ping there , Moe had 24 ms, and sin where at our table, which caused an additional lag (but it was less annoying than my delay problem)
I probably will upload some others in a near future.

enjoy

pierre
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05/31/2005 06:26 PM (UTC)
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I was confident enough against Rob that I would win that's why. And to think he's better than you are. I also *doubt* you play any differently offline than you do online. Are you really that naive to think I would not be able to finish a standard auto combo because of my dexterity, when I can perform other more demanding combos on a whim? And even if I went with the regular juggle combo mentioned earlier, why would bother with HP, freeze, HP HP JK (35%) when I can get HP, freeze, cross up JK, standing HK? (36%) lol
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