I like how in the portal stage in MKDA all the characters looked glossed up and shinny. It made the graphics look awesome. Im VERY glad too see they made alot of the characters glossy and very real looking. Best game ever.

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!

Excellent post my friend. Sadly though, as much as I like it and as much as I agree, there will always be people who manage to destroy all that is going good, and complain about the most insignificant things!!

The fact is, you can never please everyone, and many like to complain for everything and for nothing.

Great post.

Damn. Well said man. Every time I read the posts and replies on this "MK: Deception Discussion" board, I think the same thing. Why do people bash the game? First of all, they are at an MK website (the best one), so obviously they care somewhat about MK and its future. Secondly, they care about MKs upcoming game. So if those people come in here, why do they bash it? Why don't those people go into the new "Britney Spears' Dance Mix" game message board and bash that?

There's always going to be complaining thats what happend before mkda came out, but once the game was released people stopped complaining for a while, the same thing is probably going to happen when mkD comes out.

Definitly I was looking over the posts and saw them and i was thinking why they would be on a MK fan site complaining about MK. Awsome that your saying something reptilelord.

The game isn't even out yet, and we know relatively nothing about how it will play other than what we played in the previous game. Speaking of which, I seriously wonder if people forgot completely about Deadly Alliance? I mean, at least there was a good reason to be hesitant about that game since the series was on a five year hiatus and the last few installments left much to be desired. However, when it came out, we were blown away; Mortal Kombat was back and better than ever. Sure DA had its issues: some lame fatalities, only one fatality, little stage interaction, lack of big secrets, etc. But all that's been revamped and improved for Deception, so I don't see what all the worry is about.

Great thread good post. I agree with what you said how can you bash a game that you have never played? If you folks are looking for a good thread to hit where the people that post there never bash or attack others, check out the offical countdown thread. My pal old buddy MK247 started it along time ago. Stop by and say hi. Laters DSB

I agree. Most people will say they're just voicing their opinions, which is fine, but there's a difference between constructive criticism and childish bitching.

In a way I agree with what is being said. But on the other side of things, it would be pretty sad if the only things being said were praises!

If we only say good things, then the MK team would never know what we don't like about the game, so they wouldn't know what to improve and fix.

Where there is good, there will always be bad. So I don't think that people pointing out the bad things is a bad thing at all.

You are all saying that we can't point out the negative things about the game because it has not been released. So how can we point out the positive things about the game? It's the exact same thing, except looking at it from a different angle.

I am not on anyone's side for this thread. I am totally neutral and see it from both sides.

Also, what may be a good addition to the game for some people may not be a good thing in other people's minds. The game can never please absolutely everyone. As long as it pleases the majority then it is a success and classed as a good game. I am sure that MKD will fall into this majority and will be a successful and great game. But even after the game is released there will be people that knock it for some reasons. Some of these people may even be the people that are currently praising the game. Until the game is released and we have all played it then we just have to put up with all the praises & put-downs of the game at the moment....

"You are all saying that we can't point out the negative things about the game because it has not been released. So how can we point out the positive things about the game? It's the exact same thing, except looking at it from a different angle. "

I agree; you can say something sounds good or something sounds bad, but you don't know until you play it. For instance, I'm pissed that a lot of characters I like (Kano, Kung Lao, Kitana) are not likely to make it into the game. However, I don't think that will kill the game like some people are acting. "Oh ____ isn't in the game, it's gonna suck!" No, it's unfortunate the character you like isn't in, but the quality of the game is still unknown. I have no problem with someone thinking an aspect of the game sounds good or bad, but they need to have some basis for the opinion and decide whether or not it's a big enough issue to affect game quality.

Well firstly I'd like to sy thanks to all of you who've added to this post which had originally begun as just a rant to get it off my mind but it's nice to know there are those who agree with me

And secondly I'd like to thank Aussie Ninja not necessarly for siding wiht me but for having a completely open opinion, it's this state of mind that I think we should all have in expectation for the game. Thanks again for all of your support guys and gals.

AussieNinja Wrote: Also, what may be a good addition to the game for some people may not be a good thing in other people's minds. The game can never please absolutely everyone. As long as it pleases the majority then it is a success and classed as a good game. I am sure that MKD will fall into this majority and will be a successful and great game. But even after the game is released there will be people that knock it for some reasons. Some of these people may even be the people that are currently praising the game. Until the game is released and we have all played it then we just have to put up with all the praises & put-downs of the game at the moment....

I have to agree. There's a difference between constructive criticism and negative bullshit. A lot of the recent criticism on the board doesnt't have any real basis, and it's mostly people just attacking the game because it isn't what they want it to be. *cough*Tekken*cough*

Some people seriously need to learn to to construct an opinion, though.

Nice points man. But there will always be critics. Even if the game was perfect, there would still be people that would complain.

Well put Reptilelord i feel exactlly the same way.

Aha, people must've read my thread I made a few weeks ago. But I agree that people need to state the problems with a game, so the developers will know what mistakes to fix, or what to take out. But the way they do it should be constructive, instead of attacking the game with cussing up a storm. I see people who dislike MKD for the wrong reasons(their fave character isnt in it)which is sad. I think people have a right to voice their opinion, we all came her because we like MK, but don't condemn someone who doesnt feel the same way about it as you do whether you like it or not. And besides we are all prejudging the game by saying "This game is gonna rock" or "MKD is gonna suck", so we'll just have to wait and see when it comes out to know how we really feel about the game.

I don't agree!I know you're talking about my thread that I made earlier.How about the after playing virtual fighter mkdeception looks like crap,when he never played it.There are many people in this world and if you think everyone will feel the same about deception you're wrong.I never complained or wrote these silly threads here.
1.Jade petition
2.Kitana petition
3.A new pic with kira,when it's on the front page
4.Is that smoke or noob,when nobody knows
there is too much to write about so that's it.
A game must get a little badtalking now and then so Ed boon can see how we feel.

I agree with everything you said, man. I really gets me worked up when I see people constantly bashing MKD, even though it's not even out yet! Seriously, if you hate MKD so much, don't post here! It just ruins it for the many, many people who are looking forward to the game, like me for example.

I for one think that this will be the best Mortal Kombat game ever, if not the best fighting game ever, and I'm sure I'm not alone, so stop complaining!

This thread seems pretty one sided so I'll just say something, it's not a case of bashing MK, everyone on this forum are fans of MK, some like whatever's put on the shelves, some think it could be better.

Personallly I've not seen anyone who would like to see improvements in MK not give useful comments to back up their opinions, a lot I've seen are well thought out, and what they say are usually true.

Don't go calling people because they aren't over 10 threads saying MK is the best thing since sliced bread. No-one has said they want MK to become a complete Tekken clone, they want MK to become the best 3D fighting game out there, it just so happens that ideas of how that can happen are by comparing it to its rivals.

If everyone here really believes what people are saying is wrong, then prove it, if someone suggests a new idea, then tell them why it can't be used in MK, but don't just complain about it, because then your opinions aren't held with as much respect.

Siduu101 Wrote: I don't agree!I know you're talking about my thread that I made earlier.How about the after playing virtual fighter mkdeception looks like crap,when he never played it.There are many people in this world and if you think everyone will feel the same about deception you're wrong.I never complained or wrote these silly threads here. 1.Jade petition 2.Kitana petition 3.A new pic with kira,when it's on the front page 4.Is that smoke or noob,when nobody knows there is too much to write about so that's it. A game must get a little badtalking now and then so Ed boon can see how we feel.

Quel absurde!

Regarde, after playing another game that you feel is superior in some way to what little we still know about Deception, you can get all in a huff and badmouth the game up and down if you want to and your free to make everyone know about it, even the MK Team. But to *and this goes for everyone else who falls into the category* make your point one day, then re-visit it another day, and then to bitch, cry, piss, moan, and complian about the same general criticizims in thread after thread day and weeks after is really getting superfluous.

You can say the MK Tean needs to do this, the MK Team should to do that, the MK Team needs to dance with monkeys while juggling apples, whatever. There's really a threshold of tolerance that most are unwilling to take of constantly reading about it when even some want to bring the issue up for the eleventy-fifth time.

Look, everyone knows that in some way they read our stuff and at some time during the early stages of development, they took what suggestions we had into consideration and they probably still do. But if people are tired of hearing, re-hashed complaints from people, then you know they are as well. And besides, do you really think that they are going to listen to people say how shitty the game looks or other non-constructive things while they are still in the process of putting the game together?

So you belive slapping the MK Team in the face will make them wake up and listen attentively to your harsh critique? Now I know that we do have a voice that in some way reaches them and in some way is welcomed insight from fans, but seriously, ain't none of us that fuckin special to think that we have the nerve to tell them what to do or how they should do it by talking down or ridiculing their decisions. The last time I looked, they were the ones with the 10+ years of experince making MK games and listing to our input. I bet if they have read some of the postings they would wonder where some of you are coming from to chastise them.

Everybody has a voice and everyone want's thier voice heard. But if it's not constructive and if it doesn't add anything substantive to the general discussion or debate, then all it is is incohierent noise.

And if you still think that VF is better tham MKD in some way when October rolls around, then by all means if you have something to say about it, do so. Make one logical and informative post about your pro's and con's so everyone can know where you're coming from. And then for the sake of those who may not feel the way that you do, after you make your post, let that be it. You can make comparisons to other games if you want to, but I'll tell ya, people are gonna get tired of that shit after a while and then you won't be too far behind. Oh! and the last time I looked, as badass a game title as it is, this isn't Virtual Fighter Online.

If your gonna judge the game, fine! But judge it as it is after you put enough time into playing it.

C'est tout.


I'm Ghost.

Ghost Dragon

When did I compare MK with VF and why are you on my tail this much?I know what I'm talking about so you can just leave me alone.If you think giving MK alot of sweet talks is gonner solve anything,I don't know what too say.If I'm not an MK fan,why do you think I'm here posting stories and fatality ideas,isn't that contribution.

Siduu101 Wrote: When did I compare MK with VF and why are you on my tail this much?I know what I'm talking about so you can just leave me alone.If you think giving MK alot of sweet talks is gonner solve anything,I don't know what too say.If I'm not an MK fan,why do you think I'm here posting stories and fatality ideas,isn't that contribution.

There's a difference between conributiing with honest critiques and being too abrasive! Nobosy said that you had to be a boyscout, but thinking about showing some respect towards people who know what they're doing and do consider fan input might be a consideration.

But why don't you try this. If you feel that your 'slap someone in the face' style is effective, why not make all your feelings known in a lengthy email and send it to the MK Team and see if they take your opinions and critiques seriously with you abrasive approach.

C'est tout.


I'm Ghost.

Ghost Dragon

Great post, man!

I agree completely, unfortunately there are many who expect more than what they see and you can never fully please everyone. There wil always be something to complain about.

I'm happy with the way MKD is and will enjoy it even if the gameplay and graphics haven't had that much of an improvement. I've always accepted MK for what it's had to offer! And I've enjoyed it a lot more because of that.

im pretty much suprised by the way mk:d is looking with its levels n all but im still worried cuz their hasnt been a decent mk since mk 3...

I think that with the praise, you have to be able to take the criticism as well.


This happens with every game, people like some parts and if they think some other things would work better or if some things should be added then they post about it.


I don't agree with just saying something like MK sucks, because that's just rude. But instead when people say I think this would be better if this and that were to be implemented then it's all good.


Game designers adapt to what the public wants, They listen to what people like and what they don't, that's how they keep making the games better and better with every release.


You can't just say everything is perfect, because there is no such thing.

Something can always be improved upon in some way.

So basically I think that insulting MK is not acceptable, but coming up with ways to make it better is.

Critiques, whether positive or negative are definitely necessary.

It's like if an artist asks you to critique his work and all you say is oh wow, that's amazing even though you know it could be better.

It makes them feel nice, but it doesn't help the artist to improve on their weak points at all.

Anyway, these people are profecionals, and as profecionals they can take both good and negative critiques and not be offended by them.

For example in my case. When I make a drawing or an animations...whatever.

I always ask people to look at it and tell me the truth.

The first thing they usually say is that they love it.

But then I ask them do you see anything that can be better, then they pick things out.

That's what I need to hear in order to make the work better.