Shang has been stealing sinse the begining of the race. He has been on the Evil side the whole time, who do you think he would be good with? Shang Tsung will never become good

negative1 Wrote: Shang has been stealing sinse the begining of the race. He has been on the Evil side the whole time, who do you think he would be good with? Shang Tsung will never become good

No one said said it would happen. It's just a theory. He would be faking the whole thing! He would never truly turn to good unless he could get something out of it. Like I said, at the right time, he'll betray them!

nah couldnt happen

It could happen though I'm not quite fond of the idea...

However, Shang manipulating the good guys for his own personal benefits doesn't sound too bad.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: It could happen though I'm not quite fond of the idea... However, Shang manipulating the good guys for his own personal benefits doesn't sound too bad.

I don't like the idea. But like you said, if he did do it for personal gain, I'm sure he could do it. He could tap into the goodness of a soul he has taken to pull it off.

Long time ago, I imagined that it would be a good twist if something similar to Quan Chi's ending happened:

Instead of Liu Kang Soul's possesing Kano's body, what if Liu Kang's soul entered Tsung's body after the death of the sorcerer? He would shape-shift the sorcerer body into his own body... he'd have many powers.

What if Shang Tsung misteriously re-appears in MK: Deception, and in the end we find out he's, in fact, Liu Kang? That way, Liu Kang could be "deceiving" the bad guys

Abismo, you made a good suggestion!

On the original idea, although I like it, I think "being fed up with being evil" sounds kind of lame. Evil people don't get fed up with being who they are... perhaps something could occur to Tsung that could make him repent, but given that he's a murderer and a traitor, I'd doubt it. However, it would still be a nice twist.

Cheers,
VQ

negative1 Wrote: nah couldnt happen

Yes it could happen. And it suits Shang's selfserving attitude to a "T" This is totally something Tsung would do to A) Get Souls again and regain power. and B) To betray everyone when the time is right and take everything. Good job Tgrant. This IS Shang Tsung perfectly.

Okay, I do not think Raiden is that stupid to trust Shang Tsung. I think that NO ONE is more familiar with Shang Tsung's treachery than Raiden, himself. MANY who have trusted Shang Tsung are either dead or have been left for dead because of Tsung's treachery, and if Raiden does fall for a "truce" with Shang Tsung, that list will grow even more.

I think Shao Kahn has a MUCH better chance at switching sides than Shang Tsung ever will have. That's just my opinion. In fact, I believe that Shang Tsung had been using Shao Kahn from the very start

interesting theory, but logically I think that the answer is a no no. Why? because like we can see in the classic MK discussion section, Shang Tsung is not even a human being, he is a demon, he is pure evil, he cannot change what he is, he is not even from the earthrealm.

Shang Tsung will win as a bad guy and die as a bad guy. I could see Shao Khan somehow becoming good(I would hate it but it could work) but not shang tsung.

Bloodline666 Wrote: Okay, I do not think Raiden is that stupid to trust Shang Tsung. I think that NO ONE is more familiar with Shang Tsung's treachery than Raiden, himself. MANY who have trusted Shang Tsung are either dead or have been left for dead because of Tsung's treachery, and if Raiden does fall for a "truce" with Shang Tsung, that list will grow even more. I think Shao Kahn has a MUCH better chance at switching sides than Shang Tsung ever will have. That's just my opinion. In fact, I believe that Shang Tsung had been using Shao Kahn from the very start

Actually he said that no one trusts him. Not even Raiden. So raiden wouldn't let his guard down for a second. This is why Shang would ultimately fail in his endeavor, but this is most definitely something that is in Shang character to try especially since the Soulnado was cut off and he is weak. What better way to get revenge than to have your Enemy's enemy smite him for you then turn on them. I think it's possible.

(hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm)

Good theory.

I like the idea.

BUT TSUNG must ALWAYS stay EVIL!

You know, this is a theory that isn't that bad. I had a similar idea myself, in that Shang would somehow end up going Good, or perhaps atoning for his crimes by fighting one last battle against evil. I just don't see it though. Shang Tsung is just such a vile, evil being...and your idea of him then turning around and stabbing them all in the back...classic.

Its completely stupid. Shang is totally evil. He is a demon. No way in hell would raiden give him a soul to consume or open the gate to the heavens. Neither would he have pity for an evil sorcerer that has been against raiden since, like, the beginning of time.

It would, however, be interesting to have a story where good and evil have to team up to take on an evil that treatens everything both good and bad. But even then, shang would not be good, just watching out for his own ass. And when the oppurtunity arises he would betray anyone for his own power.

shang will not get old.instead subby will turn evil to get young again shang will give him souls. sub zero will turn evil and we know it. he needs to get young again so shang will deal with him in MK7 since sub reached his peak, just like reptiel finally reached full reptiel form in MKDA he can only turn human again since he is with his race again, he deevolves and will proabaly be in his soldier outfit too, while subby will get younger.

i think shao khan will be the one turning good!

That theory would never happen for Shang Tsung. Shang Tsung is responsible for so many bad things that happened to the Earth warriors and would never be forgiven.

Shang Tsung lured Kenshi into the depths of a tomb and sealed him in there which left Kenshi blind.

Shang Tsung killed Liu Kang which left Kung Lao bitter against him.

Shang Tsung was responsible for the original Mortal Kombat. Johnny Cage, Sonya, and Raiden are first hand witnesses to Shang Tsung's evil.

Shang Tsung has a bad reputation on Earth and would never be accepted by the Earth warriors. If Sonya is optimistic to Frost, what would make you think that any Earth warrior would not suspect anything of Shang Tsung's treachery.

TomTaz Wrote: negative1 Wrote: nah couldnt happen Yes it could happen. And it suits Shang's selfserving attitude to a "T" This is totally something Tsung would do to A) Get Souls again and regain power. and B) To betray everyone when the time is right and take everything. Good job Tgrant. This IS Shang Tsung perfectly.

Thanks Shang Heiachi and TomTaz! It seems I've caused some speculation here! lol And your right, TomTaz, Raiden would never let his guard down. Shang would seriously need to do some HUGE act that would convince the Earth wariors of his loyalty. Although, even then, Raiden would not be trustful.

I like Abismos idea of Kang taking Shangs body. I was thinking the same thing myself,m but then wouldn't why the MKTeam scripted it so that Kang took Shangs body, unless they intend on him taking Shangs body and are leading us to believe he is in Kanos.

Xalibar: It is not completely stupid. If the DK is as powerful as he is supposed to be, a strong allie from the side of evil would be of perfect use for the Earth warriors. Raiden could easily be disloyal to Shang. Betray him before Shnag betrays them. Someone could be spying on Shang for Raiden and find out what Shang is really planning and inform Raiden.

I also respect everyone elses opinions. This could happen. It may not. Thanks for not flaming me.

Shang Tsung is not trust worthy even if he wante dto be on the side of good. Heck even if he's on the sid eof evil he ain't trustworthy. He's a loner now

I agree, plus I think that the older gods would not allow raiden to change shang Tsung, don't really think they would want him fighting for good,

Subzero_5th Wrote: Shang Tsung is not trust worthy even if he wante dto be on the side of good. Heck even if he's on the sid eof evil he ain't trustworthy. He's a loner now

slangman24 Wrote: I agree, plus I think that the older gods would not allow raiden to change shang Tsung, don't really think they would want him fighting for good, Subzero_5th Wrote: Shang Tsung is not trust worthy even if he wante dto be on the side of good. Heck even if he's on the sid eof evil he ain't trustworthy. He's a loner now

I understand that shang is not trustworthy enough. Raiden probably would kill him on the spot. And your right, he isn't trustworthy no matter which side he is on. But the same can be said of any bad guy.

As for the Elder Gods, they hardly ever interfere and I think they would leave this decision up to Raiden. It would be surprising if they did get involved, but I think if they did they would be against it too.

Actually here is why Tgrants topic is really smart.

Now someone above said Shang has always been evil. Hehehe not quite.

Shang Tsung used to be good and he even fought for the Earth realm in Mortal Kombat many ages ago. Don't forget he is human not Edinian.

However in the tournament he used his powers which at that time was forbiden. He lost the match and was taken to kahn.

Kahn taught him how to steal souls however kahn made him serve him. Shang didn't really side with kahn willingly.

Now with Quan and Shang trying to kill Kahn in MKDA. Kahn returns hell bent on revenge, so that rules out Shang returning to kahn. Quan and Shang defied each other so that rules out them been together, and Reptile wants to kill Shang for killing his master.

As you can see Shang's list of allies grows thin. This could be the turning point. What could set a chain reaction.

My theory beginning from here is. Shang will see that he is been hunted all over. So he will approach Rayden and the Earth warriors.

In a last attempt of Redemption Shang Tsung pledges alliance with the Earth realm to help rid Kahn, Quan and any other opposing force. Putting aside past grudges with Kung Lao, they all unite and form a deadlier alliance.

We all know that Scorpion and Sub Zero are now ally's. So I don't rule out my theory above of Rayden accepting him.

In ages past Rayden gave power to an evil being in order for that being to destroy the Dark Lord of those times. That being carried out that mission.

I am talking about Caan who was the right hand of Draxxon the first Dark Lord of Edinia. Rayden gave Caan a mystic blade which could destroy evil ONLY by been used against evil by an evil man turning his back on evil. Caan used the blade and destroyed Draxxon. He lived well all the days of his life and on his deathbed he gave the blade back to Rayden who had it hidden.

Rayden could trust Shang expecially now. Both know the price he'll pay at this stage, and any turn of events to benefit the light would be welcome. Thus giving Shang the chance to make amends for his past.

That is all.

Wow! That's a great insight into the story! Now with that sword that Raiden has, Shang using it and being able to kill evil with it would mean he has truly become good right? He wouldn't be able to harm any form of evil with it otherwise would he?

I also like the fact that he could turn because everyone is after him and he has had enough of it all. That could be a great factor that could turn him.

The sword can only be used by an evil man turning his back on evil. If he doesn't turn his back on evil the sword will be just a normal blade.

So yes his turning would be true. But this is not my point.

Shang had regretted over the years learning the soul steal move. He may bargain with Rayden to have his human form restored without the course of needing souls in exchange with helping them in this new battle.

If he did get that deal done, he could still go back to his evil ways in which case he would have sued Raiden. I'm sure Raiden would have some sort of way of making sure he kept his side of the bargain. Or maybe Raiden would just kill him.

Or, as you said, he'd help in this battle. That doesn't mean he would have to help out another time. He could go back to his evil ways or stay good or neutral.