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10/29/2006 03:10 AM (UTC)
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Looks fantastic bleed! Awesome!

How about Daegon or Taven next?
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I think I'll go with Taven next.
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10/29/2006 01:31 PM (UTC)
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bleed Wrote:
Thanks smile

I think I'll go with Taven next.


Alright, cool. Can't wait to see it.
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10/30/2006 05:58 AM (UTC)
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Update : Aculeus will be covering art for Smoke, Chameleon, and Sareena
bleed you'll be covering Sektor (already done), Taven, Daegon and Motaro

I've sent Skinsley the next few characters to do.
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10/30/2006 07:21 PM (UTC)
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I made Stryker's pages. www.zone.ee/mkpage/guide and choose stryker1.png/stryker 2.png/stryker 3.png or stryker 4.png. If there are problems, contact me..
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10/30/2006 08:33 PM (UTC)
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Awesome t1000noob! The pages are nicely done, aside from missing a few small things. We will need to put some place holders in there for the screens, the endings and whatnot. I also think the second page should be the one with the character's basic moves on there.
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10/30/2006 08:52 PM (UTC)
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My guides will be up soon I'm a bit busy now
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10/30/2006 09:23 PM (UTC)
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hjs-Q Wrote:
My guides will be up soon I'm a bit busy now


Thanks hjs.
I get Motaro!

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I made Stryker's pages. www.zone.ee/mkpage/guide and choose stryker1.png/stryker 2.png/stryker 3.png or stryker 4.png. If there are problems, contact me..



t1000noob, I think the text color on your pages is too hard to see in some areas. Like when the light gray is over the yellow. It becomes almost invisible. You might want to do something to make the text more legible.

And here is the picture of Stryker without the white outline. I cleaned it up for you.



If you have one of better quality, I'll fix that one for you also.
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10/31/2006 02:48 AM (UTC)
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I'd actually like to keep the biography to one page. The tier stats on that page are something i didn't think of. good idea.
Also, we'll be using Ermac187's renders for Human Smoke and Tremor. We'd still need Kia, Jataaka, Khameleon and C. Sub Zero though.
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10/31/2006 07:52 AM (UTC)
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CYRAX

Speed: 5/10
Range: 6/10
Power: 7/10
Safety: 5/10
Specials: 2/10
Overall: 5/10

Stances:
Ninjutsu
Pulse Blade

Specials:
Detonator Far: B, F, 1
Ugh. Neither of Cyrax's bombs are really worth using, but this one is worse. The name says far, yet you have to be within a half screen. The explosion will popup your opponent if it hits, which is rare since the enemy has all the time in the world to sidestep or get away from the bomb.

Funky Spin Kicks: D, B, 3
Funky? Not so much. Damaging if they hit? Definitely. 21% on its own, no juggles or anything else involved. That's the only thing that will make this move somewhat useful. Always punish with this move. On juggles, this move's damage is reduced to 12% or lower, but it's still a good option to end a juggle with.

Detonator Close: F, B, 1
This bomb attack is only useful if your opponent tries to jump in on you, in which case they'll have to move quickly to avoid getting caught in this blast. You can cause some decent damage after one of these bombs hits, so in the one-in-a-million chance of a hit, make the most of it; you won't be connecting with it for a long time.

Exploding Teleport: D, U, 2
Cyrax's classic teleport move from the MK3 days, this move was very annoying against characters like Sub-Zero and Scorpion or anyone with free hit projectiles. Unfortunately the animation for Cyrax to reappear is very slow and gives your opponent plenty of time to put up a block. Only use this if you are absolutely sure you can make something out of this move.

Slice and Dice: B, F, 4
Cyrax's other move to conclude juggles with, the Slice and Dice doesn't do a whole lot of damage after the launcher, but isn't bad to catch someone who is a good distance away from you. Another move to use sparingly, because it can be sidestepped and punished easily.

Throw: Armbreaker Throw
I fail to see the breaking of the arm in this throw, but it does good damage for what it's worth. Hearkens back to MK3, when Cyrax had a similar throw. Not a bad throw overall given its power.

Cyber Light: 1, 1, CS
Cyrax's style branch doesn't launch, but does good damage for the amount of hits (22% in 3 hits) and can knock your opponent into deathtraps. This is probably the one special move that Cyrax has that is worth using repeatedly.

Best Moves:
Ninjutsu: 3
Cyrax doesn't have much to speak of in Ninjutsu, but this kick both knocks down and pushes back your opponent, possibly setting them up for a bomb or a Slice and Dice when they get up.

Ninjutsu: D+2
You know it's bad when a character's uppercut is one of their best moves. Cyrax's options in Ninjutsu are few and far between, so this powerful uppercut should be used to punish after a sidestep or any chance you get. You'd much rather have your Pulse Blade drawn anyway.

Pulse Blade: 4
This little number does 19% on three hits and is a nice way to end juggles if you time it right. The problem is that Cyrax's launchers are so bad that you won't get to end juggles with this, so use this move stand-alone.

Pulse Blade: B+1
16% on its own makes this attack formidable, at least. You'll want to use this move to end combos with because Cyrax is so awful in the air. Even by itself, this move is simply fair at best.

Combos:
(Ninjutsu) F, B, 1, 1, 1, CS (4 hits, 31%)
(Ninjutsu) B+1, CS, B+2, 2, B+1 (4 hits, 18%)
(Ninjutsu) B+1, CS, B+2, CS, 1, 1, CS (5 hits, 20%)
(Pulse Blade) 1, 1, 4 (5 hits, 22%)
(Pulse Blade) B+2, 2, B+1 (3 hits, 21%)
(Pulse Blade) B, F, 1, 1, 1, 4 (5 hits, 26%)
(Pulse Blade) B, F, 1, 2, B+1 (3 hits, 27%)
(Either) B, F, 1, D, B, 3 (4 hits, 25%)

Playing As:
Good luck. If you're crazy enough to pick Cyrax, you're either insanely good or don't mind losing horribly. Learning how to play as Cyrax isn't all that difficult, but he's so one-dimensional and linear that you're going to have a tough time winning battles. Ninjutsu has virtually no options, and Pulse Blades has powerful but badly unsafe strikes. His bombs won't hit often, but when they do you can get 30% on an opponent, so be sure you're positioned properly to get the maximum damage. Toss out bombs now and then if you're far enough away, maybe you'll get a hit. If Cyrax had his net in MKA, he'd be much more playable, but as it stands, he just isn't that good. Since you can't really mix anything up due to a lack of options, you're going to have to pick your spots perfectly. Play extremely defensively with Cyrax and you might stand a chance against most competition.

Playing Against:
Against Cyrax, you can pick pretty much anyone and be in the clear from the start. He doesn't have much that can hurt anybody from any range. The only characters he can cause problems against are turtle characters (Stryker and the like) because his bombs can disrupt the other character's positioning (and thus throw off his or her projectiles). Counterpick with anyone, it doesn't matter really; Cyrax isn't much of a challenge for any character (well, perhaps Kai or Sindel, but who's counting?). He's got nothing in Ninjutsu and if you stay away from the bombs or just off-axis in general (so his Slice and Dice can't get you either) you'll have an easy time against Cyrax.

Final Analysis:
It's really sad to see Cyrax play so poorly in MKA. Cyrax, a very underrated character and semi-fan favorite, got the short straw in this game. He's a pushover if you're playing against him, and if you're playing as him, you're going to have to work hard to get wins. Ninjutsu, as stated over and over, has nothing to speak of in terms of useful attacks, and Pulse Blade, though better, is unsafe. His bombs are garbage overall, the teleport just isn't quick enough to be worth using (for other than evasive purposes), Slice and Dice is easily sidestepped, and the spin kicks are simply OK. Overall, you're going to have to play Cyrax much differently than you would any other character to win. Cyrax is definitely low tier, if not bottom tier overall.
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10/31/2006 09:51 AM (UTC)
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Ok thanks for the Stryker picture. I'll correct some things and move on to Cyrax.
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10/31/2006 11:56 AM (UTC)
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Awesome. Thanks t1000. Good guide on Cyrax, moseph...he was poorly made in MKA, although i don't think he was all that great in DA either.
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10/31/2006 12:28 PM (UTC)
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About the text: If i'd do the text black, then it's hard to read on the dragon logo. If i'd do white, then it's hard to read on the flames. So it 50:50..
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10/31/2006 12:43 PM (UTC)
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Awesome. Thanks t1000. Good guide on Cyrax, moseph...he was poorly made in MKA, although i don't think he was all that great in DA either.


Well, in MKDA he at least had Sambo, which gave him somewhat of a fighting chance. He was still pretty bad, but you could win with him.
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10/31/2006 02:24 PM (UTC)
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Well, Then I'd use a different color then either black or white. Maybe blue, or something.

I'm not too sure. Also, I wouldn't really use that font. Try perhaps Verdana.
We also need to make it smaller to fit more to a page.

Thanks t.

moseph, sambo wasn't even that great. I was testing out the stuff you posted and was trying to figure if this was all Cyrax had and it's sad because I can't work out too much more.

bleed, i'm glad you're excited about motaro. haha.
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10/31/2006 02:34 PM (UTC)
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moseph, sambo wasn't even that great. I was testing out the stuff you posted and was trying to figure if this was all Cyrax had and it's sad because I can't work out too much more.

bleed, i'm glad you're excited about motaro. haha.


Yea, Sambo wasn't all that effective in MKDA either, but it was a lot better than Ninjutsu, and it was a better style for Cyrax to keep (fit him better anyway, Ninjutsu should have gone to Scorpion and Hapkido to... Ermac, Sub-Zero, or Nightwolf... Hapkido is an internal, defensive style). I mean, if he had Sambo, at least he'd have a fighting chance, because you can throw and then Slice and Dice on wakeup.

Something I found with the bombs: After dropping one and re-inputting the button combo as fast as possible, it took me until the third try for Cyrax to drop another bomb... far too slow to be effective.
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10/31/2006 02:41 PM (UTC)
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He's almost as bad as Drahmin.

Oh Well. Sektor next, moseph?
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10/31/2006 04:26 PM (UTC)
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Yea, Sektor next.
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10/31/2006 06:58 PM (UTC)
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So the Sektor pages would be almost done as well.

Alright. Thanks.
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10/31/2006 07:20 PM (UTC)
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Drhamin is top tier man.............


My advice on Cyrax is short and simple:


















DONT PLAY HIM HE SUCKS SO BAD.
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hjs-Q Wrote:
Drhamin is top tier man.............


My advice on Cyrax is short and simple:



DONT PLAY HIM HE SUCKS SO BAD.


Ummmm........not very good advice (esspecialy for Cyrax fans)
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10/31/2006 08:46 PM (UTC)
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MortalKombat2007 Wrote:
hjs-Q Wrote:
Drhamin is top tier man.............


My advice on Cyrax is short and simple:



DONT PLAY HIM HE SUCKS SO BAD.


Ummmm........not very good advice (esspecialy for Cyrax fans)


While it may not be helpful, he's right. Cyrax is definitely bottom-tier material, like Kai, Sindel, and Shang.
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10/31/2006 09:07 PM (UTC)
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Kai, bottom? Damn. That blows. I actually thought he was ok.

Blows. Alright.

Jax007 recently did an MKA pic which we'll be using for the back cover of our guide!
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