Who cares about the tradition ?
anyway the "tradition" already been broken by having a kick-ass monster as the final boss

Hey, look at the bright side, they are both evil still (or at least Noob Saibot is, so I am guessing Smoke is). It could create much more of a challenge than Moloch ever did.

yep the tradition is dead.. why.. because mk stop sucking lol... well.. after 2, and not including trilogy..

queve Wrote: I guess the tradition has been broken. THE Sub-boss is supposed to be a gigantic powerful monster not 1 or 2 normal characters.

They broke the tradition in MK4 though (non home version) there was no sub boss at all. I personally would have preferred Noob Smoke to play a different role then the sub boss of the game, but they could do worse i guess.
However, its the story that doesnt mesh with me, in the recent bio we saw, didnt he say that he was no longer bound to anyone? That he was going to strike out on his own to start his own legacy? If he is the sub boss wouldnt that make him loyal to the DK?
-Smaddy

Noob-Smoke is an awesome idea! Onaga is the "Goro" of this game, And that's cool with me. I always thought the sub-boss was always tougher than the actual boss.
I want to know more of Noob-Smoke. Why are they allied? Do they each have one fighting style and a weapon? If so, Who uses the weapon? Or do they each have two hand-2-hand and one weapon and use a different system from the other characters? Maybe they use the L1 to switch between them, And L2 to switch their styles... Blah-blah... lol, Sorry.

Where in the hell is the Chimaira? Or any kind of large sub boss Boon said there would be at E3?
Disappointing. IMO, Noob-Smoke should be a total secret character(s).

Plus it looks like you will be able to play as the sub-boss.
MOre than likely, there will be a new sub-boss. Hopefully.

queve Wrote: I know its no big dealk, , I guess its a new change, a "fresh" change....but it just.....sucks. LOL.

This coming from someone who says the future of MK would still be the same without Sub-Zero and Scorpion.

The_Cold_Kombatant Wrote: queve Wrote: I know its no big dealk, , I guess its a new change, a "fresh" change....but it just.....sucks. LOL. This coming from someone who says the future of MK would still be the same without Sub-Zero and Scorpion.

Yeah, so what? Thats my opinion. They should miss a game or 2. If you dont like it, fine, I respect that, but you have to learn to respect the others opinions.

I feel like they might be a bigger challenge than some big huge monster. I've always beat the sub-boss with ease. In MK:DA Moloch was so easy to beat, it just took simple combos and side steps to beat him. I had to do alot more with the people before him, so i'm liking the idea of two people against one for the sub-boss. I think it's the best sub-boss idea, even if big monsters look cooler.

If Midway made an MK game without Sub and/or scorp, sales would probably decline, seeing as they are the series 2 most popular characters. MK just wouldn't be the same without them. but that's just my opinion.

Well i guess they figured now have a big freakish creature for a boss so, they didnt want to freakish monster fights. Personally i think its a great idea the Noob-Smoke thing very innovative and exactly what MK needs.

We'll all get our big, evil, nasty bastard of a boss. He'll just be at the end instead of right before. I think it's a good thing.

Bezou Wrote: We'll all get our big, evil, nasty bastard of a boss. He'll just be at the end instead of right before. I think it's a good thing.

True that.
and, Hahahahaha! Nice sig, those afros on them look hilarious!

Bezou Wrote: We'll all get our big, evil, nasty bastard of a boss. He'll just be at the end instead of right before. I think it's a good thing.

Yeah, I guess you are right.
You know, I just feel dissapointed that we dont get to see a new monster creature, but I do like the tag team.
I guess they wont be that bad after all. Who knows, it might be fun. I hope they get their own arena though.

The story is weird. They seem to have no connection.
Not the first time though. Goro had no connection to Shinnok and was subboss.

On a side note, sorta, Boon has said before he will stop making MK before it doesn't have Subby and Scorp.
IMHO, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, and Raiden are the 'icons' of MK, the other characters, to different extents, are disposable. I think that these 3 or not.
Sorry for goin' off topic.

Anyanka Wrote: The story is weird. They seem to have no connection. Not the first time though. Goro had no connection to Shinnok and was subboss.

I think they will. we dont know the complete story of both so...we will just have to wait.

The biggest of the big deal imo is that it won ́t be a pal version of the gamecube version...

Does anyone KNOW if Noob is Evil? he may have just been following orders, Like Scorp and Sub in mk1 (if I recall). maybe he's neutral? cuz I dun think Smoke seems like the type that would team up w/ an Evil dude, and Definatly not the type to turn evil. plus, In Subby's bio, it lists Smoke as one of his allies.

back on topic....i dont care if they are the sub boss as long as, when u play them with a friend or online they aint cheap as hell. there nothing worse then playing a game with a boss character taht you like and then your friends or idiots online saying "oh you only one cuz u got the strongest guy in the game" and so on....cuz noob smoke i think is a good idea but if they make him cheap then its like thats all they are is a boss cahracter...not a playable one...in my opinion

Well I have my mind open to change. I mean maybe they can be hard sub boss(es). I think it would have been cool for a giant flesh eating monster from outworld to be the sub boss but this could be good. However I still think Kitana could have made a great sub boss. Honestly as long as the sub boss looks cool and isn't annoyingly cheap or hard I don't care who it is. I do care about the playable characters though. Anyways thats my opinion.

you anti noob-smoke people are delusional.
why can't you accept change for once? if you keep doing the same thing it gets repptitive.
fuck the tradition for one game.......... please

CrowClock Wrote: you anti noob-smoke people are delusional. why can't you accept change for once? if you keep doing the same thing it gets repptitive. fuck the tradition for one game.......... please

I think you are right. I don’t hate the whole Noob-Smoke tag team, I actually think its cool, but I was disappointed with them as the sub-boss.
They are not intimidating IMO.
BUt I’m willing to give them a chance. Who knows? They might be worth the spot.

Yea, I get what Bezou is saying. He's more dissapointed that he wont be seeing a new big monster as the sub-boss even thought there is one as the boss. It's just kind of a weird thing when I think about it, but i'll get used to it. Just like i'll get used to alot of new things in Deception. I hope I'm not dissapointed with the game, though if I liked DA it seems like i'll love Deception.
best mk game:
Deception(hopefully)
MK2