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TheOmniOni
07/21/2008 03:19 AM (UTC)
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Shaggsta has got it right. Though I'll admit, I'm a hypocrite. I bitched plenty when the announcement was first made. But the gameplay vids made me switch to the dark side and am excited now for this game.
I don't mind if the game doesn't have a ton of moves or is super realistic. I tend to like that type of game more, but I also love to play 2D fighters.

Basically what I'm looking for is to do what ever they are going to do, but do it well. In my preference, well would mean that the features look and feel right or logical.

That's the main thing that's been annoying me with the MK teams latest efforts.

They add stuff that could be awesome, parries, unblockable throws, wake up game, air combat but the execution is just too sloppy or bland.

That's why I'm getting to like this MK vs DC. What I'm seeing is actually looking better in those areas.

They don't need 100 moves for every fighter, just get what they have working well, comfortably and looking good.
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luckylooser38
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07/21/2008 04:16 AM (UTC)
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Yes yes yes take it ol school for me anyday of the week brother.
I spent all my coinage in the arcade when MK1 first came out.
I like the idea of some throw back stuff with a new age twist myself.
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MaxDam
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07/22/2008 07:16 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
queve Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:

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Of course I like to see alternates, cool bios etc, etc but to me that's a bonus. First thing I always care about is gameplay, as should most people but I can't speak for everyone, just my opinion.


Cool.

I perfectly understand about caring for gameaply, but you have to realize that just because you consider those things an “extra bonus” or “trivial” at the moment, doesn’t mean the majority feels the same way, and it certainly doesn’t mean that that majority are obsolete and indifferent in regards to gameplay.

But aside from a tiny bit and small mention of all characters having their eyes glowing, you haven’t mentioned one thing you don’t like. Sure its an early game, sure its not finished, but hey, I want to know what you don’t like about it so far.

Not a “well, the eyes glow but since we’ve only seen 2 is trivial”, because that means that’s something “you don’t dislike”. So that doesn’t count.

So what isn’t making this game perfect, according to you? smile

You can care all about gameplay, that still doesn’t mean that the other things aren’t important.

As some of the creators in the TRU podcast so wisely said, its like caring to either have wheels or gasoline for your car. Both are important in their way, aren’t they? Or else, the car wont work. And if you give it a little amount of one of those, it will eventually die.


I know, it's like I said man I can't speak for everyone but there's a lot of majority of fans that do care about the gameplay first over everything else.

To me there is no such thing as perfect game, no game is perfect but if I had to choice between say a third alternate for Scorpion or awesome gameplay and say more online options, something like that. Then I'll choose the second one easily, it's really a nobrainer for me anyway.

It's impossible to please "every" MK fan out there, that also goes for other series, games, movies whatever. You'll always find someone to complain or be disappointed with something.


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I really don't know why people are still finding reasons to bitch out the new game. Sure it's not Tekken or SC, but IMO it's better. We are all on this site because we love Mortal Kombat. So why do half of us sit here and do nothing but wine and moan about how it's not a super complex fighter with super realism. It's Fucking Mortal Kombat, it's never had a large amount of realism, so why would you ask for it now. Midway is making up for some of their gameplay problems in the past three titles with this next gen game. I don't know, you guys can keep acting all you want, but just because you think your ideas for an Mk 8 are better than midway's and some things aren't going exactly how you imagined it, don't take it out here and tell REAL Mk fans that they are ignorant for actually being hype for this game.

:D

furious

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
This was mainly directed at MaxDam


Exactly dude, but sadly especially on this site you'll always find complainers or people that are just never satisfied despite how trivial they may be. And yes indeed sir you certainly bring up a good point, we are on here(or at least guys like you and me) because of MKO mainly, thus it's dumb to bash it. Help it out or give advice for Midway? Sure, but rip it? Retarded IMO, especially for some reasons of which you've read on here who hates Batman, or DC or Flash's lips....I can go on and on but then again that's why there's an official rant thread for people that either get off on bitching or like to rant about something.


I agree dude, I'm pumped for this game. I was always excited and curious about the idea from the beginning, but now after seeing gameplay, more vids, characters etc I'm really hyped for it.grin


Ok, In my first post on this thread I said that this video looked better. I'm not bitching at everything. I honestly consider myself a fan of MK since 1992. Long time indeed. Understand my point. I want a great MK game. A game the MK team hasn't being able to deliver since MK2 imo.
Not here to pick up a fight. It is just hard for me to "accept" this game. Not digging the concept. I don't mind the cross over games but DC was one I wouldn't expect. Probably Killer Instinc would have being better.
Also I'm not complaining about the graphics, it is the design of the characters. I also wish the characters moved more fluidly.
I do like the fact that they are simplifying the gameplay mechanics.
I'm still willing to give this one a try. Playing it will make me decide if I'll purchase it or not.
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TheOmniOni
07/22/2008 07:50 PM (UTC)
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It really looks like they're pushing for a ton of special moves now too. Scorps fire engulf and now Subs Ice drop. Can't wait to see what Sonya and Shang have new up their sleeves. Though I know they've shown Shang use a falling fireskull, hopefully there's more than that!
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MaxDam
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07/22/2008 07:53 PM (UTC)
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I like all Shang's special moves. MK2 and 3 mainly but the one I'd love to see back again is his morphing ablilty.
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mkflegend
07/22/2008 08:20 PM (UTC)
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MaxDam Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
queve Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:

..............................................
Of course I like to see alternates, cool bios etc, etc but to me that's a bonus. First thing I always care about is gameplay, as should most people but I can't speak for everyone, just my opinion.


Cool.

I perfectly understand about caring for gameaply, but you have to realize that just because you consider those things an “extra bonus” or “trivial” at the moment, doesn’t mean the majority feels the same way, and it certainly doesn’t mean that that majority are obsolete and indifferent in regards to gameplay.

But aside from a tiny bit and small mention of all characters having their eyes glowing, you haven’t mentioned one thing you don’t like. Sure its an early game, sure its not finished, but hey, I want to know what you don’t like about it so far.

Not a “well, the eyes glow but since we’ve only seen 2 is trivial”, because that means that’s something “you don’t dislike”. So that doesn’t count.

So what isn’t making this game perfect, according to you? smile

You can care all about gameplay, that still doesn’t mean that the other things aren’t important.

As some of the creators in the TRU podcast so wisely said, its like caring to either have wheels or gasoline for your car. Both are important in their way, aren’t they? Or else, the car wont work. And if you give it a little amount of one of those, it will eventually die.


I know, it's like I said man I can't speak for everyone but there's a lot of majority of fans that do care about the gameplay first over everything else.

To me there is no such thing as perfect game, no game is perfect but if I had to choice between say a third alternate for Scorpion or awesome gameplay and say more online options, something like that. Then I'll choose the second one easily, it's really a nobrainer for me anyway.

It's impossible to please "every" MK fan out there, that also goes for other series, games, movies whatever. You'll always find someone to complain or be disappointed with something.


Shaggsta Wrote:
I really don't know why people are still finding reasons to bitch out the new game. Sure it's not Tekken or SC, but IMO it's better. We are all on this site because we love Mortal Kombat. So why do half of us sit here and do nothing but wine and moan about how it's not a super complex fighter with super realism. It's Fucking Mortal Kombat, it's never had a large amount of realism, so why would you ask for it now. Midway is making up for some of their gameplay problems in the past three titles with this next gen game. I don't know, you guys can keep acting all you want, but just because you think your ideas for an Mk 8 are better than midway's and some things aren't going exactly how you imagined it, don't take it out here and tell REAL Mk fans that they are ignorant for actually being hype for this game.

:D

furious

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
This was mainly directed at MaxDam


Exactly dude, but sadly especially on this site you'll always find complainers or people that are just never satisfied despite how trivial they may be. And yes indeed sir you certainly bring up a good point, we are on here(or at least guys like you and me) because of MKO mainly, thus it's dumb to bash it. Help it out or give advice for Midway? Sure, but rip it? Retarded IMO, especially for some reasons of which you've read on here who hates Batman, or DC or Flash's lips....I can go on and on but then again that's why there's an official rant thread for people that either get off on bitching or like to rant about something.


I agree dude, I'm pumped for this game. I was always excited and curious about the idea from the beginning, but now after seeing gameplay, more vids, characters etc I'm really hyped for it.grin


Ok, In my first post on this thread I said that this video looked better. I'm not bitching at everything. I honestly consider myself a fan of MK since 1992. Long time indeed. Understand my point. I want a great MK game. A game the MK team hasn't being able to deliver since MK2 imo.
Not here to pick up a fight. It is just hard for me to "accept" this game. Not digging the concept. I don't mind the cross over games but DC was one I wouldn't expect. Probably Killer Instinc would have being better.
Also I'm not complaining about the graphics, it is the design of the characters. I also wish the characters moved more fluidly.
I do like the fact that they are simplifying the gameplay mechanics.
I'm still willing to give this one a try. Playing it will make me decide if I'll purchase it or not.


Just so you know, I wasn't necessarily referring to "you per-se" just a general statement. I just want to clear that up ; )I've noticed some people on here get a little defensive or assume I'm referring to them directly but in that case I usually quote. When I make "general statements" it's for those people in general, not really a particular user. That's fine man, but we all have our opinions many of which different from each other. Obviously MK2 was great, but IMO and many others generally UMK3, MK:DA, MK:SM and MKM were fun, great games. Granted, some even liked MKD more then those....(usually the newer generation of MK fans) or some MKA even.

That's fine, not everyone has to like it. The only message I'm trying to get thru to some general fans, casual or hardcore alike that might have hated this idea from the start is "give the game a chance" wait for it, play it then if you still don't like it, I suppose it's not for you, but there's just a lot of people(especially early on, on here or out there) in general which I'm sure you've seen that assumed a lot before the game even got off it's feet with newer E3 stuff, gameplay vids, more about the story etc. Now, I've noticed some more people are coming around to actually liking the idea now that we've seen more info about the gamesmile

I hear ya though, I'm arguably the most obsessed MK fan on here and perhaps you'll ever meet lol. I play, love all the MK's but even I must admit that I have my "preferences of certain MK games" over some others.glasses
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TheOmniOni
07/22/2008 09:09 PM (UTC)
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Well put legend. I'm definitely one of those that blasted the hell out of the game at first, but now I wanna play it! Sadly it's those preferences that bring out the idiot in most fans of any series.
There's more game play footage on youtube.

click here
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mkflegend
07/23/2008 07:35 PM (UTC)
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Nice find Bleed, there's also a few others one of which MasterMalone I believe found concerning the "run/dash" double tap forward.

I love how this game looks the more gameplay I see. New customized combo system's going to rock
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