Seriously... WTF do they have in common (besides an ugly face)?

The fact they like to cause chaos and trouble and are jokesters.

A lust for pure, random chaos. I would say they would be better working together, but that isn't either of their styles. Their major difference is that while Havok likes to stir up and perpetuate chaos throughout the realms, Joker likes to be the source of it.

I would love to see that actually. I really think that Havik was an excellent addition but was used improperly in his two appearances. Unfortunately, it's really unlikely we'll be seeing him in MK vs. DCU.

Sometimes you need to throw all the iconic stuff out the window and goes with what works.

You know what, I know it will probably be only 'classic' MK fighters... but I would love to see Havik in this game.

Him and Kenshi are the only good characters to come out of MK post MKDA

If anyone is going against Joker, its Kano.

Havik and Joker are very different.

Not really. They're actually quite similar in personality. I have a very hard time drawing any similarities between Kano and Joker.

Havik is a close parallel to the Joker in they're both being very chaotic and anarchic trouble-makers. They would clash though because Joker's beliefs in chaos stem from his nihilistic point of view....that life is a meaningless joke...while Havik embraces chaos as the ultimate freedom in life.



Why Kano? I'm not seeing that.

NO!
Just because they could both be classified as insane doesn't make them the same.

They are a teeny tiny but similar, but Kano is the much better match-up.


Kano and Joker are both criminal masterminds!

Both despised by Law Enforcers (Batman and Sonya)!

Okay...now how are they different:

Kano is a brutish thug who relies on muscle and backstabbing.
The Joker relies on mindgames and isn't regarded as much of a fighter.

Kano is driven by a vaguely-defined lust for power.
The Joker just enjoys causing trouble for his sadistic amusement.

Kano will whore himself to anyone he believes can get him ahead or survive.
Nobody likes teaming with the Joker because he's too erratic and psychotic.

Kano hates Sonya and only wants her dead.
The Joker holds a bizarre respect for Batman and enjoys their rivalry.

It's vaguely implied Kano has a slight sense of humor.
The Joker never shuts up or stops laughing.

Thank you. Thats why I think the MK team in this case needs to forget about iconic and just go with Havik.

WOW! They're both criminals, WOAMG!

Joker and Havik both have the same view on existence (though for different reasons). Both enjoy causing chaos for chaos' sake and no other reason. Kano and Joker are nothing alike personality wise and them both being criminals isn't a big deal. If you're going to say that then Joker has a lot in common with Mavado and Kabal too. Hell, at least with Kabal you've got the "criminal mastermind" thing AND the "permanent disfiguration caused me to change my outlook on life" thing.

I agree with Professor Ankha, but they should team up.

You guys aren't going to change my mind, its an opinion. I think Kano and Joker is much better than Havik and Joker.

And opinions can be wrong. Yours is.

Don't get me wrong, you're perfectly entitled to have your incorrect opinion, but it would be much better for everyone involved if you didn't come into a topicand state your incorrect opinion as fact. Kay? Thanks!

Ok Dude, theres no way I can see Kano and the joker being rivals or even pals. Havik is a perfect rival and or pal for the Joker and the MK team really needs to consider this.

Shut Up!

Opinions can't be incorrect, Facts can, but not opinions.

Look it up in the dictionary.

Can the Joker even fight?

Depends. Some writers depict him as an skilled fighter, while others show him avoiding direct contact.

It depends.

Some writers portray the Joker as having some fighting skill and able to withstand a lot of punishment. Other writers portray him has having no skill whatsoever and often getting knocked out after one punch.
EDIT:
Someone beat me to it.

well if it's the skilled combat Joker then by all means let him be in the game. While I doubt we'll see Havik it might not be a bad comparison between the two. IDK since I don't read DC comics.

In the 1500s-1800s it was the majority opinion that blacks were inferior to whites. I'm fairly comfortable in saying their opinion was also incorrect.

Get this through your head!

First of all this isn't the 1500's-1800's and this doesnt involve blacks and slavery.

And Second Of All

Opinions can't be incorrect.

Opinion - a personal view, attitude, or appraisal

People could disagree, but opinions are never incorrect.

And if opinions could be incorrect i could just as well say that your opinion is incorrect.

And finally look at what you said earlier...

"Don't get me wrong, you're perfectly entitled to have your incorrect opinion,"

Ok, then you said

"but it would be much better for everyone involved if you didn't come into a topicand state your incorrect opinion as fact. Kay?"

WTF!

Are you retarded?

Why the fuck would you say i'm entitled to my opinion, and then tell me not to express it?

That makes no fucking sense right there.