i love unreal tournament

Red I am not 100% postive, but I am like 85% positive that Raiden appeared in one version of the unreal tournament 3...think it may have been xbox exclusive or something like that. it was a FPS

ok just went to wikipedia and searched Raiden it said this at some point

"He appears as a secret character in Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict, NFL Blitz and NBA Jam: Tournament Edition. Raiden also makes a cameo appearance in a pinball machine, Bally's 1994 World Cup Championship, in a bonus round."

So its confirmed then .....MK will combine with the NBA to make the best game to combine basketball and fighting since Shaq-fu

i believe that MK vs.SF will never happen because of how different each other play+ i havent seen a new SF game since what.....

idk guys but MK vs. SF sounds pretty fishy to me

MK .vs. tekken: now that would be very dumb in my opinion cuz tekken seems more of a not fantasized game no super powers, no random fireballs and so on. i mean once you think about it tekken vs MK would be the weirdest shit ever.

all i know is that MK8 is gonna be broken as fuck.why? well mostly because midway so far has not made 1 non-broken MK game.

Not true ^ UMK3 is very balanced, the infinites and such in there are beyong hard to do, trust me.

Well I have played the Unreal games, they're FPS's and UC is an FPS/3rd person. It's not them MIdway is referring too. And MK8 isn't even out yet, I think that's a bit presumpturous. As for War Gods having better fatalities then MK? hell no...they can't compare actually no game can compare to MK2's fatalities and MK ones since that started the whole "controversy" with politicians getting involved and such. War Gods had a few nice ones but Mk's was much better overall and nothing can compare to the classicness and shock factor of MK 2 Kung Hat split fatality, Jax's arm rip, Sub-Zero MK 1 spine rip etc. A lot of the newer MK fatalities are silly or out there(it is a game though) but MK8 from what I read about it will go back to oldschoolness as far as darkness, shock factor and being gritty and gruesome. I can't wait.

haha i new mkf was going to say umk3.. guess what umk3 is a rom upgrade of mk3, making it a broken game to start. umk3 is not its own game, it runs from the same cpu board that mk3 does.


try finding an mk3 board, wont be easy cause most arcades got the umk3 upgrade, which was just a rom upgrade from midway.


ps i have one, and it wasnt easy to locate. took me 5 months before one showed up on ebay.

Actually, no. You see I'm aware of UMK3 being in the works while MK3 was out, however UMK3 is STILL a separate game that never needed an huge overhaul.

The glitches in that game are NOT easy to abuse, much to your demise..red and actually take skill. MK3 didn't have Scorpion, Kitana, Reptile, Classic Sub, Ermac, H.Smoke or Mileena in it either. Nice try but no.

Besides, I love it how people act as if just some MK games are broken yet other fighters out there either are broken, have tricks to them to abuse or aren't balanced like say SF 2, UMK3 requires more skill. Go to www.ultimatemk.com and there's a thread on there explaining why.

Tekken is pretty good but there's a few characters or tricks in the later ones that you can use a lot, are better then other characters. I think it's T5 there's a character that's unbalanced that's banned from tournaments and such I've read, dave from here also filled me in on that one.

You can also button mash at times in Tekken I've discovered a little bit. SC=pure button masher compared to other fighters. MVC2= fun game with infinites like MKA, any game with a HUGE roster amount is impossible NOT to have some infinites, tricks. Are you aware of that one? Bet not...Malone even made a post about that one day way back explaining the "flaws" of every fighting game.

When it comes to fighting games, there's not such things as "a perfect game" UMK3 is still the best MK game gameplay wise and among the top 10 fighters of the 2D world period.

other games dont need 6 revisions, to fix there glitches.

adding characters to a game does not make it a new game, tekken had charcters on time release, does that make it a new game cause new charatcers got added to the game.

umk3 did have a 2nd version in the arcade, it was called wavenet.

so if umk3 was in the works when mk3 was released, than umk3 was the final product, of a game that was released 2 yrs earlier unfinshed than.

umk3 can not be as broken as most mk games, it got 2 yrs of public testing to fix things. kung laos broken ness is actually worse than mk3, so it stryker.

stop with the ultimatemk crap, i was at that site before u even knew what it was. i dont care what other people say, the fact is umk3 is an upgrade of a non finioshed broken mk3 game. nothing u can say can disput that. how is it a new game when it uses the same cpu board??? umk3 was an upgrade kit, thats all. new marquee and a rom switch. did your arcade get a new cabinet when umk3 game out, no it was the same cabinet and cpu board that u played mk3 on. hence UPGRADE.


NOW POST 5 PAGES ON HOW MALONE SAID, OR EASY SAID, OR BUSTA UPPA, OR MOE30W SAID THIS AND THAT.

honestly
i dont understand i dont think mk could mix with any game
not even war gods...
no game is just like mk i think killer instinct would be the closest if anything
but i highly doubt they could bring back KI

6 revisions umm I doubt that... Stryker broken in Mk3? wow the guys over at umk.com would get a kick out this lol. Stryker was utter crap in MK3 until her got his gun man.

Umm no I was browsing that site wayyyy before I joined it man, so again wrong.

Hell, most people on here are mocked by them because they state the truth people on here that THINK they know UMK3 know shit...

No need to post other peoples names, I already know UMK3 is a great game and nothing you or anyone else can say or post will prove me wrong otherwise.

It's still a totally different game MK3 vs. UMK3, anyone that has lots of experience will tell you that with MK like me for example among like...all of those guys you mentioned from that other site.

You made like one post on there, I saw it and you got rocked hard...didn't think I saw that did you?

You don't post on there because you know those guys will prove you wrong and shut down any argument you have on "why MK sucks"

this isnt about mk3 or umk3 sucking, its about umk3 is nothing more than an upgrade. its not a new game.

they added strykers gun, which made him broken with his juggle. cause it never got tested till it was released.

all the stuff in umk3 was in mk3 first, wow adding new backrounds and being able to start combos with cross over hits, does not make it a new game.

YES 6 FUCKING REVISIONS.

Not one mk game has ever been released in the arcade and didnt have a minimum of 3 revisions.

sorry ive never been bashed on ultimatemk, but thanks for playing.

its been what a yr and a half now, hows that 360 comming... are u waiting for the 720 to come out??

you know yo9u can forget the whole idea of killer instinct vs MK or whatever, just bring me back any KI game and put it online and you'll see me very little on MK for a while

I want KI in 3D. That'd be awesome.

And yeah, like Red mentioned, I've always seem UMK3 as an extension of MK3. I played MK3 a lot but played very little of UMK3 because I didn't see it as a completely new game as MK3 was to MK2.

-->>> But I forget all that; I'd love to see KI make that transition into 3D.

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Red is totally right about the many MK revsions. MKF...i thought you were an MK fanboy. That is like MK 101. UMK3 was just an upgrade to MK3. If it were made today. UMK3 would be downloadable content to MK3. There is nothing new unto itself in that game. That being said UMK3 imo was the best of the MKs. It was the one they got right. Then MKT then that horrible piece of crap that drove me away from MK...MK4. Also there was a perfect fighting game made once. I have raved about it for awhile know but UFC for the dreamcast definitely was perfect. FN3 seems pretty close to. I think the problem is in fantasy fighting games. Because they bend the laws of physics and human anantomy it is capable of creating many unatural situations to be exploited.

Yeah, and even if it is 6 which honestly, I don't care...I'm so sure Rare did "splendid" that's why KI is dead now and has been for how long now Red? Since you're such a fanboy of the KI series, guess it's not as good as MK, SF, Tekken etc since it's dead forever now...

This may be hard for you to believe but if let's just say they were to make KI vs. MK, ummm that would actually HELP KI why? Well, because first off people would go nuts over the fact that KI is back and facing off against MK which is already popular to begin with and it'll please both fans of both series.

But hey, let Rare keep lying to people like you and getting your hopes up. At least Midway said they were in need of a change and admit it.

Do you not know that Stryker is actually decent with the gun, not broken. He's still no where NEAR the top of the tier list, his gun infinite combo is the only thing that makes him worthy of being picked and his 3 punch juggle.

People wanted him to be better compared to the way he was in MK3 which was utterly shitty...

Actually, not everything that was in MK3 was in UMK3. Let's see here,

A.jump in combos WEREN'T in MK3, that's one

B.Wall push back, that's two

C.More balanced and increased damage protection, that's 3

D.Who cares about backgrounds? It's the characters and as I said before the 7 extra characters weren't in MK3 and also are pretty balanced so that wasn't in MK3. That's 4.

E.UMK3 is balanced well, MK 3 isn't with Sub-Zero broken ice clone, that's 5.

Shall I go on?

I rest my case.

Of course you never been bashed on UMk3.com that's because if you even thought of posting this nonsense you'd be laughed off that site kind of like your lame thread where a few people from there saw your ridiculous "UMK3 is broken thread" when in reality you posted a MKT broken video...



So I'm a fanboy, your point? So are you since you're here right? And I suggest you read the facts listed above, why do you think you new buddy red won't post this shit on umk.com? Did you not read his thread on UMK3 being broken, and yet he posted an MKT video? wow.... There's no such thing as a perfect fighting game, and UFC isn't even fighting that's more wrestling/entertainment/sports.That game is not a fighting game. You do know that right? At least UFC is more aggressive and realistic though unlike wrestling games...I'll give it that much.

you rest your case??

you just listed stuff that was added and fix to mk3. why cause mk3 was unfinished and umk3 was the final product.


point to end this topic, cause u are 100% wrong.


if u want to dl umk3 for mame, you have to dl mk3 also, why cause they are the exact roms from the arcade, and umk3 is nothing more than a fucking upgrade. now disprove me.

stryker gun infinte, why is it there, cause of poor testing.

No, YOU'RE wrong about half the shit you're claiming "why UMK3 is broken" dude please...you already made yourself look silly and dumb when you posted that retarded "UMK3 is broken thread" with an MKT link?? WTF? lol

Dude, as I said the people that REALLY know what they're talking about cocerning UMK3 over at umk.com have a field day with the posts on here about UMK3...can't say I blame them really.

Especically with yours.

P.S. MAME sucks ass, might have been good a while ago but not now it gave me problems before, and no way in hell I'm using a keyboard to play any MK game and the 360 version is like a million times better.

I listed stuff that WASN'T in MK3 since you said before my previous post "ohh everything that was in UMK3 was in MK3" wrong...I just proved that and yet you're still trying to dodge that fact with bringing up mame nonsense. I'm not even talking about MAME. Nice try though...

mame is an exact arcade port,,, mame is closer to aracde than 360.

im bring up mame cause to plau umk3 on mame u have to dl mk3 also, hmmmm wonder why... cause umk3 is an upgradeeeeeee.


once again ramble off topic, i dont care about whats broken. all the broken stuff in mk3 was fixed in umk3, all the new stuff they added had brokenness cause it wasnt tested 2 yrs publily like the mk3 stuff was.


if you can sit there and think you are right that umk3 is not an upgrade of mk3, and thing umk3 is its own seperate game, than you have to be that dumb.


hell you can almost call mkd and mka upgrades of mkda, cause the charatcer models are the same, and the engine is the same, the final product on mka was shit thrown together from mkda and mkd. making it an upgrade.

thats how midway works, mk8 will come out and mk9 will be a upgrade of mk8.

I'm aware of that, I was only pointing out things that weren't in MK3 that were in UMK3..

Of course the game is obviously an upgrade, but then again most fighters if you want to look at it do that.

Let's see, KI 1 then KI 2...not THAT big of a difference.

SF II Turbo then Super Street Fighter II etc.

Alpha series same thing, a new game but if you want to be technical about it. Same engine, new characters, some upgrades..

A lot of fighting games have done that, I really don't see what the big deal is.

The newer MK's yes, of course they all share the same 3D engine with slight upgrades but let's face it. MKA did fix a lot of MKD's problems, if only they got rid or didn't put in that air kombat there would be no "AC or 33" say if they just put in oldschool jump kicks and have some characters throw in the air. That's it.

Since the FT's aren't that big of a deal in MKA as they are in MKD.

MK:DA to a lot is the most balanced 3D MK game, some agree others disagree whatever...personally and Check felt the same way I did about this. I thought I was the only one, in MK:DA the sidestepping is the best out of all the 3D MK's. It seemed stiffer in MKD and is alright in MKA, it just seemed faster and smoother in MK:DA and more useful.

i hope that MK8 is its own game. no MK vs. SF,no MK vs. KI,no MK vs. tekken just MK characters. i mean y make a good game series stoop down to utter brokenness. lol i bet if it was MK vs.SF ken,ryu,and akuma would have a shoryuken inf in the fuckin corner that a 5 year old could discover.

.....wow strange that i talk about MK like its nothing but a stupid piece of shit that can never be as great as any other fighting game like it used to, and MK8 is gonna be fucked up before it comes out, but im still gonna go out to a gamestop and buy it

^^^^You have been officially KONSUMED by Mortal Kombat just like everyone else.

Well, with enough feedback on fan on MKA, I am sure the next one will be 300 times the game MKA is today.. I mean the only reason why it sucked was because of how rushed it was, think about all the stuff they had to add.
Because of this MK game, I don't care how long they take on the next one, as long as they do it right.

lets just hope this mortal kombat is great

yea but you know they will rush the next one too. And all the hopes we had will be crushed again.

Ever had a friend you could never depend on? Midway is like that. You keep inviting them over but they always let you down. Why would the next game be differant.

Lets see,if there was a MK vs KI game.It would only be on the 360 and actually that wouldnt be a bad thing for midway considering their not a big company and could only focus on one sole system.But ok,it wont happen though but its not out of the question you know.There could be other options like MK vs Clayfighter lol i actually would love to see that but its unlikely.Oh and to the above user,MK4 only had 3 revisions thats it no more then that.Hmm other then wargods and there has only been one wargods game if i remember cause i dont think they made a second one.But thats another unlikey game cause no one has played it since the N64 and ps1 era.So why not MK vs a brand new fighting game???MK vs Micheal Vick? Mk vs cockfighting?MK vs dc comic?And why not that one,mk vs batman and superman and justice league game??lol