You guys see this? hehe hmmmm the speculation is that it's Scorpion vs.

#1 you wont get any news till 4pm tomm, thats when the embargo lifts.

#2 its a crossover

#3 thats batmans arm

nothing esle to say, but i told u so at 4:01 tomm.

Haha, well Red was spot on.

cha-ching...... to all the non-believers KISS MY ASS

So it's not really MK8.. GHEY! fuk DC!
Updated..The trailer actually looks good. I'll reserve any comments until I see more. So I'm retracting my 'fuk DC' comment...

I'm happy with it, I love MK and DC. I was just (like most fans) skeptical of all this hype because I didn't see this coming and wanted confirmation. Now you have 50% Mk fans on here on the MK8 forums(which are noobs or kids) lol bitching about the "awe no fatalities" this game sucks ass"

But hey I'm happy with it, and looking forward to seeing Supes go up against Shao Kahn or Raiden

I just hope they bring back Ermac and Fujin...

Some people wanted MK vs. Marvel or MK vs. KI....even MK vs. Bloody Roar someone mentioned(like that would work lol) but I like the concept a lot

Also, guys to read MUCH more about this game go here


http://www.trmk.org/games/mortal_kombat_vs_dc_universe/midway_gamers_day_2008/


http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...ml?sid=6189513


You'll see MUCH more on the game, looking very promising

the idea is dumb, guess midway couldnt come up with its on damn characters so its using DC. BTW, the gameplay in the trailer looked absolutely sad. They need to pop out something that shows they took advantage of what the engine can do. But something tells me the fighting will end up looking like UMK3 with a little flash instead of like a real fighting game.

The more I think about it the more wack I find the idea. THEY copped out! WTF is DC doing with MK? I've spent the afternoon argue on MK8 forum and I still don't get it. What BS idea!

They didn't copout dude, just doing something new...if they copped out then they would have let DC take "full control" all together which would have been bad.

But in concept, this is no different then marvel vs. capcom...in which that game had 57+ characters and was broken,yet still liked. If that game can work with that considering, then MK and DC can too



They could of, but then you'd have the same bitching MK fans on here bitch about "bad characters" or hating on the newer characters.

It's a mutual thing, that's how crossovers work. It will be some MK cast and some DC just like MVC2

UMK3? That's a first I must admit, but it looks like a real fighting game already with the route they're taking with the "movie fighting" cam angles and such.

It's still way too early anyway to judge honestly.

Long way to go, I like the whole falling fighting like spider-man and doc oc from the second movie ha ha

Marvel vs Capcom is understandable. MK is a totally different type of game all together. There is nothing like it hence you can't go mixing it with DC. It's like cloning a cat with a dog.

the graphics are pathetic for the unreal engine, they are nothing more than tweeked mka renders.

they were going for the GOW's look, how can they call these graphics anything like GOW.

ps, looks like dials are gone, about time.

batman
wonderwoman
superman
green lantan
flash
joker
protoype


sub
scorp
shang
mileena
raiden
lao
daegon
reptile

just dont no if its all good guys fro dc, and all bad guys for mk

prob will be 4 of each from each side

RED IS BACK! HURRAY!lol

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It's probably too early to be talking about graphics... I'd wait to see a real trailer.

I have a couple of things...



#1 - The reason this seems like such a "cop-out" our "sell-out" move is because it was labeled by the creators as the "rebirth" of MK. It's the very first installment of the series on the next-gen consoles. This concept doesn't seem to fit the mold of a traditional major-installment of the series. By major installment, I'm talking about MK I, MKII, MKD, etc., not Mythologies or Shaolin Monks.

If this game was made as a blatant side-track type game, it'd be fine. But they're making it out as if it will go down in history as the 8th major MK. If that's what they're trying, it's either a stupid move or a sell-out. No fatalities, "T" rating, and no new characters are among the issues I have with this being the next MAJOR installment (aside from the fact that they'll be implementing MOSTLY non-sensical characters from DC).

Boon vaguely mentioned that this game might not be a major entry in the series as far as story and all that. If that ends up being the case (which I hope), then this is just an issue of poor timing, in my opinion. To me, it seems like you should establish your next-gen series before venturing off into a novelty expirement like this.

In my eyes, that's all this is: A novelty game. Not a major entry.


#2 - If they're going to use this novelty idea (whether they apply it as a major title or not), it needs to make more sense. Think about this. There's been a long-time interest in resurrecting the Killer Instinct series. You hear it a lot from these boards because MK and KI rivaled each other in terms of violence, darkness, and the overall coolness factor. There were even rumors that Primal Rage might be involved in the new MK game...

You could take either of those ideas and make things make more sense than with the DC comic books. KI was dark and violent and followed a lot of the same "mindset" of MK. Primal rage was another violent game that had noticable character similarities with characters from MK.

And although I don't like the idea of a cross-over in general; my point is that if they're going to do it, it should make sense. DC has a FEW characters that COULD fit in with MK. Batman is dark and there are several twisted villains that could be "MK'd" up (I.E. Bane).

But Superman doesn't fit in. He works in his world, not MK's. His outfit alone should show you how different a character he is. And most of DC's characters are like this. They don't fit in to the darkness of MK.


#3 - This is just my theory about the trailer... It looks to me that they just took models from MKDA-MKA and applied them with a new "skin" from the new game. This is just to give the fans a glimpse at the design of the characters and just some kind of visual presentation of potential gameplay.

I say that because the graphics didn't impress me at all, but I did notice some last-gen sound FX in the trailer (voices).

Of course, that's just me being optimistic. MKDA made a huge jump and impact, visually. So I expect that Midway can do something close to that again. I could be wrong.

LMFAO @ the fight night 3 up close fights. That shit is gay, and will play out very badly even if you can parry in the air.

they cant do ki vs mk, the two play totally different. u would have to compermise one franchise, which would make that game not ki or mk anymore. if u took ki charatcers and made them play like mk, it wouldnt be ki. 6 button hold back for blocking or 5 buttom with a block button. making ki charatcer play like mk, would be the biggest disgrace ever, it would be a step backwards for ki since there fighting engine is so much superior to mk even 10 yrs later.

They're redoing the fighting engine anyway. And who gives a shit? I'm talking purely about the games' similar tone and mood. They do fit together well. I already said I don't like the cross-over idea in general. But KI would be better than fucking DC.

You're one of the few people that thinks it's going to be cool for Wonder Woman to fight Scorpion. It's especially going to be cool now since we know that the one thing that might make this ok, which is MK's violence, won't be there.

If there were two separate games: An MK8 and a DC Universe fighting game, and MK8 was rated "M" with all the classic blood and fatalities, and DC was rated "T" with minimal blood and "finishing moves".... which would be the cooler game?

Most of us think it's no contest. But you're one of the people that think the DC game would be as cool if not cooler. Of course you'll support this.

Umm, you do realize that it's the FIRST teaser vid right that will improve and be more polished by the time the game comes out? Besides, for a teaser it still looks damn good. Don't care what anyone says, it looks way better then the previous MK's if you have good eyes. wow if you think it looks "pathetic" then you have bad eyes seriously lol.....you complain about the most dumb things sometimes lol. Daegon? lol he's not an important MK character....he won't be in it.

It's not GOW...yet at least, but right off the bat the environments especially are way more detailed and larger.

And TRMK even stated that from the people that were there at Vegas said you could see the clothes tear, and details...that's gotta say something, in MKD or MKA that didn't happen(was supposed to)

LOL@ the MK vs. KI, KI is a dead and buried franchise that's crap compared to MK overall....just for argument sake, say that did happen that would have been really bad on Rares part for having a crossover with MK to revive their own series as oppose to a straight out KI3 which Rare has promised the fans for years now, yet fails to deliver....

I like the MK vs. DC, there's plenty of dark DC characters that most fans on here I've noticed aren't even aware of.

Heres my guess (and some hopes) for dc characters...

1. Bane http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...n_stories/bane

2. Cyborg Superman http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...yborg_superman

3. Deathstroke http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...es/deathstroke

4. Doomsday http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...ories/doomsday

5. Joker http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v..._stories/joker

6. Scarecrow http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...ries/scarecrow

7. Green Lantern http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v.../green_lantern

8. Two Face http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...ories/two_face

9. Robin http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v..._stories/robin

10. Lobo http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...n_stories/lobo

11. Riddler http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...tories/riddler

12. The Penguin http://www.dccomics.com/heroes_and_v...tories/penguin

These are toss ups.

I'd say these will be there for sure.

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Prototype
Aqua man
Hmmm.....green lantern too.

MKF, it is not a matter of DC characters being dark or grey. It is the question of whether or not they fit into the MK franchise. Like Chaos noted, fight engine or no fight engine MK and KI would have fitted better than DC. You would naturally group MK and KI together than with DC. DC fits with Marvel, DOA with VF. But don't just mix shit up to generate hype. It's like color coordination.

And Red, what's with this thing you keep saying about a step back for KI? How is that possible? KI has pretty much been dead for over 10years now. So I don't understand your saying that making MK v KI would be a step back for KI. I really don't get your logic. KI makers would love to get a chance to get KI back out there regardless of where the block button is.

after all is said and done, I would have preferred a sole MK game. Calling for a change has nothing to do with crossing MK over with something else. It's about enhanced creativity, making gameplay better and probably introducing new characters to reinvigorate the franchise.

Trax

its a step back, cause ki would have to adapt to the way mk plays, and kis fighting engine, and combo system is still to this day 10 yrs ahead of mk.

ki with a block button, how gay would that be.

the prob is most known dc charcters come from the batman series, if they take 5 of the 10 guys from batman that would be gay.

the biggest villan in dc is probably lex luthor and joker. im sorry but if they put lex in this game, that would make mokap a good idea for a character.

i hope joker is in, but cant see him working out.


how much more polished u think the graphics will get, the guys still look cartoonish , not like real humans like gow does.

KI is no higher then MK2's level, a blocking fest.

@ Red, no fighting game looks "real people" in that sense, SC looks like a CGI anime, same with Tekken, VF similar, KI never looked that great...it looked like a fighting game under DKC's engine honestly which looked pretty good but nothing spectacular, SF is just flat out cartoony....so I really don't know what you expect honestly.

It still looks pretty damn good and I think definitely improved over the past few, which did look a little cartoony but this game is way darker, more detailed and crisp and that's only from the first teaser as I mentioned earlier

@ Trax, I agree with you on the KI and on what Red said lol no way KI's system is ahead of MK's or any fighter for that matter speaking as how MK is still here and KI is well...dead and been dead, KI won't come back and compete with the other fighters out MK, Tekken, SC etc. Rare won't bring it back and they keep "cock teasing" the fans with "We would love to see KI3 bs" yet never deliver....

Not to mention if KI went over really well, which it didn't then it wouldn't have died after just 2 games, enough said. I mean hell even Clay Fighter and Bloody Roar did better which is sad....

As for the what you said Trax on DC not mixing, I happen to disagree here being a fan of DC for a while now. There's plenty of characters, environments (V, Constantine and Batman's Gotham) to name a few that would fit perfectly in the MK universe, it's like I said before in my long thread via MK8 forum on here...fans have to give it a chance and see what happens because in that concept, it makes no more or less sense then Marvel Vs. Capcom or Yoda, Vader in SC 4 lol

@ Roge, I agree.

Good point and I agree with it but I can see why people dont like the idea. Marvel and Capcom dont really have blood so it made a little sense.

MK, however is the most gruesome of fighting games and DC is the nice guy of the comic industry. I'll be buying the game because I loved comics as a kid but I also see why non comic fans see the way dc characters carry themselves and how it doesnt fit with the mk norm.

To all mk vs. dc haters - take your anger out on the dc characters!

DC can be and is dark man if you read the right stories, check out V for Vendetta, Constantine, Batman stories and some Superman(Death of Superman) and post Superman-Doomsday was very dark, especially with Cyborg Superman killing everyone... lol


A lot of fans on here(MK fans) have no idea on the MK8 forums how dark DC has been over the years, I think when people think DC they automatically think "Justice League"=light and PG but there's tons of other characters in the DC world that are very dark, and some of which even in the JL Batman especially is very dark.

I'll post more about this tomorrow

Dude I know. Read a couple posts up. I posted links for everyone to see some of the more badass DC characters. Im just saying I understand WHY they are a little frustrated, thats all. You dont have to convince me.