Cool i hate Cage

Nice post Grizzle.


Unfortunately, my opinion on Cage is pretty similar to the last paragraph.

Way back when, Cage was a favorite of mine. Then for some reason Deadly Alliance caused me to dislike him altogether. But for me, I doubt it was the story, because in 2002, I hardly paid any attention to it. (Knew the basics, but actually got into it in 2005 when I signed up on mko.)

The last time it actually felt like Cage was in a game was MK4. Deadly Alliance and onward (Shaolin Monk’s version as well), all I see is some wannabe in Cage’s spot, heh.

But if Cage is in MKvsDC, I gotta admit I’m interested in how he’s going to be. Something about the aura of the character needs to be recaught.

And if the character stays around, I’m all for him being more like Linden Ashby’s version. Him and Christopher Lambert (favorite of the film) had a lot of character in their roles.

True that, I favored Cage's MK4 render. To me it seemed like Cage had more balls and seemed pretty bad ass, just looking at his icon in the character select screen with the city landscape in the backgroung made me want to choose him to play as. Now that there is a wear and tear feature I feel it would be cool to have Cage start off with Sunglasses on his face, and to have them knocked off him during a fight.

Cage deserves a spot on the MK side just as much as Jax in this game and I think if he is not included for this game it will be a let down, especially to that Slayer-Cage fan lol. Out of all the characters I remember my buddies missed him the most when he was not included in the MK3 roster. If Ed Boon or anyone developing the game is reading this thread and sees all the noise the fans are making over this character they know that they have themselves an iconic character who is arguablly wanted in this game. Whether you love or hate Cage you have to admit, that character always makes an impact and impression either positive or negative on the players who pick up a copy of MK games.

cage is the bombdiggidy...my favorite character since mk one, really thought that they were leading up to something special for cage after mk armageddon, im sick of him followin his usual routine, i want him in and i want him to be a badass with a serious stroryline....FUCK YEAH!!!

As much as I dislike Crow's way of putting it, he's right. If any of you were around when MKO did their Fight Night chat after DA, and you stuck around, Vogel answered questions from fans. I don't know whose he actually answered, but one question was about why Cage's storyline wasn't tied into the other fighters so much as it was just about his movies. That's when he said Cage's DA story was to give him a clean slate so he could start over with his story--because all the deaths were 'stupid.'

It happened, but the official transcript of that night ended before that, so I dunno if anone who wasn't there would know this. It is FACT, I was THERE. Crow's right on the money.

I really hope Cage is in this game. He was my fav in MK2. Something about socking superman in the nuts just seems fun!!

oh,and tell me what the hell did Crow wrong to get "..i dislike Crow's way of putting it...".actually he only said the trith.
unfortunately i can't proof it untile i find a link,but in avideo or written interview maden by John Voegl he CLEARLY stated that Cage NEVER died.
John Vogel himself.

and i'd like to ask to all users just one thing:if the soul is separated from the body,does the body dies?
Actually looking at Shang tsung fatalities ...YES!
So this means that during MK3 where you can read that Kahn drained all the soul from mankind except for chosen warriors,means that Mankind died.And so Johnny Cage.
but after the heroes defeats Kahn EVERYTHING went back to normal.
so yes Johnny cage resurrected after the heroes defeated shao kahn.
after all what difference is between a common human guy and a chosen warrior.Both die the same way.
i may be wrong tough,and excuse for bad english,but i'm tired right now....

You're right about his body dying when his spirit left his body, But I think that in Trilogy, Cage's soul returned to his body because it was blocked to entering the heavens once Outworld took over Earthrealm, so I imagine his soul went back into his body. When Triology ended his soul went to the heavens and his body died. In MK4 I think Raiden and the Elder Gods had the power to create Johnny Cage back into a mortal form given the circumstances, meaning that the Gods created a new body for Cage. I don't know how that would exactly work but that is how I always envisioned it.

I think you misunderstood me, man. I was AGREEING with Crow, I just didn't like the fact that he said he was right and wouldn't explain why he was. He's absolutely right about Cage--Vogel retonned his deaths. Some fans just don't have a high enough reading comprehension level to understand that his DA story was retconning his old one, and so Vogel had to spell it out plainly--and yet we still get people who doubt this. Just look at someone's (that someone is a member of this site, btw) comments on Cage's wiki-page:

"Reportedly, John Vogel did not like Cage's storyline in Mortal Kombat Trilogy and MK4, and Cage's Deadly Alliance bio can be viewed as retconning this, with Mortal Kombat: The Death of Johnny Cage explaining away - and mocking - his repeated death and revival during Trilogy and MK4. Fan reaction to this intent has been mixed; some like the loss of another "resurrection" storyline, which is becoming increasingly common in the Mortal Kombat story, but others feel the retcon destroys what was perceived as a refreshing change of pace for Cage's otherwise stilted storyline (with Cage's death and subsequent semi-altruistic resurrections portraying him more compassionate and understanding of the gravity of the tournament, instead of simply using them as inspiration for more of his movies). Others do not view this as a retcon at all, as it would directly contradict his story screens in Trilogy and MK4 and cannot therefore be canonical. To these fans, the references to The Death of Johnny Cage movie therefore take on a more satirical aspect."

It wasn't satire, and obviously wasn't meant to be by the sentence "to him, his real life adventures were much more interesting: he kicked butt!" This was a direct reference to the 'bad writing' paragraph and is included to validate it. (I've said it before: I have a Creative Writing degree so I've interpreted a plethora of stories. As such, I can say with absolute confidence that Cage's MK3 and 4 series stories are retconned, replaced with God-and-Vogel-knows-what. (And that's without him actually stating it plainly on that Fight Night so many years ago) Vogel's intent should have been pretty obvious by the way he worded it--I honestly thought it was plain as day.

Anyway, I actually know who wrote that wiki article, and said person is a prominent figure in the MK fan community--but they are completely wrong. It sucks that we dunno what JC was doing during MK3 & MK4, but there's nothing we can do about it until we get a CANNONICAL SM-style MK3 game.