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fong03
08/23/2008 04:41 PM (UTC)
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Some of you are seriously over thinking these alleged "counter parts." In reality, the connections between a lot of these characters is tenuous or completely nonexistent. Many of them share no substantive similarities, but are mashed together purely because they are popular characters.

Scorpion & Superman are a classic example of this. In all honesty, the only thing they share in common is that they are their respected universes' most recognizable characters. Apparently for MK v DC, that's all you need.

Also, those hints that were revealed by kotaku (masked vigilante, amazon queen, etc.) those only referred to the DC side of the roster. Attemptss to match MK characters based on those hints will not lead to any useful discussion.

Some of you are going to be sorely disappointed if you are hoping for pairings that are based on the characters personalities, histories or abilities.
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FOXSOLID
08/23/2008 07:06 PM (UTC)
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It is incredibly funny for anyone to think Deathstroke could kill Scorpion.

It couldn't be further from the truth knowing Scorpion's abilities.

Deathstroke uses GUNS for fucks sake. Scorpion would tear through him with minimal effort.
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08/23/2008 07:16 PM (UTC)
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FOXSOLID Wrote:
It is incredibly funny for anyone to think Deathstroke could kill Scorpion.

It couldn't be further from the truth knowing Scorpion's abilities.

Deathstroke uses GUNS for fucks sake. Scorpion would tear through him with minimal effort.


I heard that!

Scorpion will tear his ass up!
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08/23/2008 08:11 PM (UTC)
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I think that with Batman/Sub-Zero and Scorpion/Superman being counterparts it's literally just because they're the main characters/fan favourites in their respective franchises. Nothing else to read into there. There is no one equal to superman in Mortal Kombat really, so how else could they "match up"?
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08/23/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)
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Really, who cares if people match up? A cookie cutter formula like that is not going to make a good game. Characters should be picked for their individual merits firstly, and if they match up somehow with another character, so be it. "OMGZ Flash and Kabal both run fast, we hasta haves thems both!1!" is not the way creative professionals are supposed to think.



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08/23/2008 08:58 PM (UTC)
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FOXSOLID Wrote:
It is incredibly funny for anyone to think Deathstroke could kill Scorpion.

I never said kill. I said better him. Is scorpion badass? Yes he is, he's the leader of the Shirai Ryu. All I'm saying is when it comes down to sword play. Deathstroke has his #. I'm pretty big into DS myself. I know how good he is. If he would not beat Scorp. It would still come down to the wire, rest assured.
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Lolacaust
08/23/2008 11:05 PM (UTC)
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Lobo.

My dream is that he would kill Scorpion and put an end to his dead end story.
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FOXSOLID Wrote:
It is incredibly funny for anyone to think Deathstroke could kill Scorpion.

Deathstroke uses GUNS for fucks sake. Scorpion would tear through him with minimal effort.

... You don't know anything about Deathstroke, do you?
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08/24/2008 02:45 AM (UTC)
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Okay I'm betting you all now...
next two MK are Kabal and Kahn
next two


Scorpion and Deathstroke are parallels. Boon may have said they aren't but Kano is the Joker's parallel...the crazy villain.

Liu Kang/ Superman (Altruistic Heroes)
Sub-Zero/ Batman (Masked vigalantes)
Kitana/ Wonderwoman (Warrior Princesses)
Kabal/ Flash (Speedsters)
Jax/ Green Lantern (Military Heroes)
Raiden/ Captain Marvel (Magical Heroes)
Sonya/ Catwoman (Sexy hero/ villain)
Shang Tsung/ Lex Luthor (Arch-villains)
Kano/ Joker (Crazy villains)
Scorpion/ Deathstroke (Ninja villains)
Shao Kahn/ Darkseid (Epic villains)

Guaranteed.






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08/24/2008 02:47 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:


Okay I'm betting you all now...
next two MK are Kabal and Kahn
next two


Scorpion and Deathstroke are parallels. Boon may have said they aren't but Kano is the Joker's parallel...the crazy villain.

Liu Kang/ Superman (Altruistic Heroes)
Sub-Zero/ Batman (Masked vigalantes)
Kitana/ Wonderwoman (Warrior Princesses)
Kabal/ Flash (Speedsters)
Jax/ Green Lantern (Military Heroes)
Raiden/ Captain Marvel (Magical Heroes)
Sonya/ Catwoman (Sexy hero/ villain)
Shang Tsung/ Lex Luthor (Arch-villains)
Kano/ Joker (Crazy villains)
Scorpion/ Deathstroke (Ninja villains)
Shao Kahn/ Darkseid (Epic villains)

Guaranteed.






kano isn't crazy at all.
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08/24/2008 02:50 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
ErmacMk5 Wrote:


Okay I'm betting you all now...
next two MK are Kabal and Kahn
next two


Scorpion and Deathstroke are parallels. Boon may have said they aren't but Kano is the Joker's parallel...the crazy villain.

Liu Kang/ Superman (Altruistic Heroes)
Sub-Zero/ Batman (Masked vigalantes)
Kitana/ Wonderwoman (Warrior Princesses)
Kabal/ Flash (Speedsters)
Jax/ Green Lantern (Military Heroes)
Raiden/ Captain Marvel (Magical Heroes)
Sonya/ Catwoman (Sexy hero/ villain)
Shang Tsung/ Lex Luthor (Arch-villains)
Kano/ Joker (Crazy villains)
Scorpion/ Deathstroke (Ninja villains)
Shao Kahn/ Darkseid (Epic villains)

Guaranteed.






kano isn't crazy at all.


regardless he has parallels to The Joker; they are both the comedic villains of their respective franchises. You can switch Scorpion for Kano if you'd like, but that's going to be the roster. I wouldn't get my hopes up for Lobo.
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08/24/2008 03:05 AM (UTC)
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no way kabal is in. especially the way things are now.

kano isn't comedic at all.
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08/24/2008 04:01 AM (UTC)
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Deathstroke and Scorpion may be parallels but I think the Joker and Scorpion will have a feud with each other. Scorpion is way too serious a character for Joker not to try to get under his skin.
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08/24/2008 04:40 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
no way kabal is in. especially the way things are now.

kano isn't comedic at all.


Kano is comedic...whenever I've read his story I've cracked the hell up. He's a treacherous snake in the grass.

for example when I read that he allied with Sheeva to get out of prison and then warned Shao Kahn about her, I laughed. He's like the Mortal Kombat Equivalent of Tuco from The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly. He's such a dick, but you can't help but like him.

And yes, Kabal will be in it. MK has no other speedsters.
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08/24/2008 04:42 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
no way kabal is in. especially the way things are now.

kano isn't comedic at all.


Kano is comedic...whenever I've read his story I've cracked the hell up. He's a treacherous snake in the grass.

for example when I read that he allied with Sheeva to get out of prison and then warned Shao Kahn about her, I laughed. He's like the Mortal Kombat Equivalent of Tuco from The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly. He's such a dick, but you can't help but like him.

And yes, Kabal will be in it. MK has no other speedsters.
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08/24/2008 06:08 AM (UTC)
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Laughable, yes.
Comedic, no.
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08/24/2008 07:16 AM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
FOXSOLID Wrote:
It is incredibly funny for anyone to think Deathstroke could kill Scorpion.

Deathstroke uses GUNS for fucks sake. Scorpion would tear through him with minimal effort.

... You don't know anything about Deathstroke, do you?

Obviously not... Scorpion owning DS, lol .. Please.
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08/24/2008 07:26 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Obviously not... Scorpion owning DS, lol .. Please.

DS owning Scorpion? Haha THAT is something that is NEVER going to happen grin
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08/24/2008 07:40 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:
And yes, Kabal will be in it. MK has no other speedsters.


What about Johnny? Just because Kabal got one single dash move that doesn't exactly make him a speedster.

Neither is Johnny really one, but his shadow moves are supposed to be fast and he got more than just one. Also, he's a goofball just like the Flash.
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08/24/2008 11:52 AM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:


Okay I'm betting you all now...
next two MK are Kabal and Kahn
next two


Scorpion and Deathstroke are parallels. Boon may have said they aren't but Kano is the Joker's parallel...the crazy villain.

Liu Kang/ Superman (Altruistic Heroes)
Sub-Zero/ Batman (Masked vigalantes)
Kitana/ Wonderwoman (Warrior Princesses)
Kabal/ Flash (Speedsters)
Jax/ Green Lantern (Military Heroes)
Raiden/ Captain Marvel (Magical Heroes)
Sonya/ Catwoman (Sexy hero/ villain)
Shang Tsung/ Lex Luthor (Arch-villains)
Kano/ Joker (Crazy villains)
Scorpion/ Deathstroke (Ninja villains)
Shao Kahn/ Darkseid (Epic villains)

Guaranteed.


I give up! lol confused
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08/24/2008 01:50 PM (UTC)
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ErmacMk5 Wrote:
oracle Wrote:
no way kabal is in. especially the way things are now.

kano isn't comedic at all.


Kano is comedic...whenever I've read his story I've cracked the hell up. He's a treacherous snake in the grass.

for example when I read that he allied with Sheeva to get out of prison and then warned Shao Kahn about her, I laughed. He's like the Mortal Kombat Equivalent of Tuco from The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly. He's such a dick, but you can't help but like him.

And yes, Kabal will be in it. MK has no other speedsters.
yeah....anyway kabal isn't a speedster.
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08/24/2008 04:38 PM (UTC)
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Godzilla Wrote:
Since the similarities between Deathstroke and Kano are "missing an eye" and "villainy", I'm fairly certain the MK team is not exactly coming up with deep metaphors.

Sub-Zero/Batman: Masked, mysterious heroes who have trouble with women.


HAHAHAHAH @ the trouble with women thing
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08/24/2008 05:22 PM (UTC)
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Here's my list with the assumptions that the final 4 characters will be: Lex Luthor, Lobo, Reptile, and Johnny Cage. I'm also assuming the two boss characters will be Shao Kahn and Darkseid:

Liu Kang/ Superman
Sub-Zero/ Batman
Sonya/ Wonder Woman
Johnny Cage/ Flash
Jax/ Green Lantern
Raiden/ Captain Marvel
Kitana/ Catwoman
Shang Tsung/ Lex Luthor
Reptile/ Joker
Kano/ Deathstroke
Scorpion/Lobo
Shao Kahn/ Darkseid
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08/24/2008 05:32 PM (UTC)
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YingYeung Wrote:
Godzilla Wrote:
Since the similarities between Deathstroke and Kano are "missing an eye" and "villainy", I'm fairly certain the MK team is not exactly coming up with deep metaphors.

Sub-Zero/Batman: Masked, mysterious heroes who have trouble with women.


HAHAHAHAH @ the trouble with women thing


LOL indeed didn't see that one coming.
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08/24/2008 09:19 PM (UTC)
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Ahem....WIkipedia you may be the most inaccurate source in the world, but oh well...

Deathstrokes abilities.

Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. Enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.

He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke "almost everything he knows" (a retcon of his origin in Judas Contract, where his future wife Adeline Kane trained him while Slade was in the military). There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as "toying with me, he is holding back", he is not considered one of the DCU's greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.


I'd say he and Scorpion are pretty equal. One being a demon hellspawn and another being a fighting genius with EFFING HEALING FACTOR.
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