yes, if frost was to stay dead it would be totally fine as no one's story suffered from her not being in deception.
but like Shinomune said frost is already a well established character to anyone who's a mortal kombat fan, or atleast play the two most recent mortal kombat games.
khameleon is not, her fan base as far as i can tell is just on the internet i hadn't even heard of her before posts like this started coming up.

No. Hell no.

Just for the record, I just read the whole thread, and I loved it XD
Yep, Khameleon is a great character and just has to be included on MKA.
And I'm gonna look for her in Deception. I wish someone took a capture of her appearance in the Living Forest or something ^^'

for the kid who said that boon said "everyone that has thrown a punch will be in the game" then that means Monster too
and i wonder if Belokk will be in it
the picture of belokk is in my profile, check it out

Belokk isn't a Midway licensed character, so in short. No, he will not be in it.
As for Khameleon, I doubt it now after weeks of thinking about the subject. It'd be a nice surprise, sure, but the possibilities just aren't on her side until we get some evidence leading to believe she'll be in, besides the word of Ed Boon, which at times, has been about as reliable as Bush's.

Oh well... even if she's not already in, they still have a lot of time to work on her.

to Oracle: if you didn't know who khameleon was until this site your not a real mortal kombat fan.

There will be no dong-wagging on my watch. Just because a user isn't familiar with a character doesn't mean they like the series any less than any one else. No way in hell are we going to have an argument over what a real MK fan is in a Khameleon thread. These arguments just lead to bad blood.

Shinomune
You figure frost is important because she is in MKDA? Thats a load of crock.
I dont get what your getting at. You say ALL MK fans know frost because she was in DA....and only internet fans and people who played trilogy know who khameleon is.....uhhhh why cant ALL mk fans know who khameleon is? In a sense Frost is only know by people who played MKDA just as khameleon is only known by people who played triology....to say one is more important because of which game they appeared in has no validity. Also lets not forget that frost basically is the same as khameleon. Frost adds story to Sub-zero and she was a hidden unlockable character...Khameleon adds story to Reptile and also was a hidden unlockable character. They both had bios and endings.
Frost is not part of the MK storyline. She served no purpose what so ever to the storyline itself. Her only purpose was an apprentice who wanted to be grand master. Even if her ending was canon it still had no effect on the MK storyline, just another failed attempt from a clan member trying to take over and failing. If you ask me Khameleon's ending would have more of an impact on the Mk storyline than frost's would have. Khameleon would have turned reptile on Khan altering a main characters position in the MK storyline.
I'm really not trying to prove which characters are more important than others but i just thought some people might want to really REALLY look at what role certain characters play before they size them up to others. Because if you want to call out names Khameleon has a larger, more important, greater impacting and more interesting role than some characters like frost, mokap, jarek. And i know a bunch of frost or jarek fans will try to lash back but oh well the truth hurts.
And lets say that reptile did find out about his race....why does that automatically push khameleon to the backstory? Two characters can't be fighting for the same goal? I could have sworn there were a couple MK characters fighting on the same side for the same reason.

No it doesn't, because that was a misquote.
The Game Informer article actually said; "To ensure that all of the loose ends are properly tied up, every character that has ever thrown a punch in a Mortal Kombat tournament is suiting up for another round in Armageddon." and it wasn't said by Ed Boon because it was between quotes from him. Monster didn't cross over into the fighting game, he was only found in Konquest mode so he won't be in MKA.
"Hinoka", Jataaka, Kia, "Kumari", No-Face, "Ohona", Tasia and Tremor have never appeared in any of the fighting games either which is why they also will be excluded from MKA (Sareena was in MKTE which is why she had a cameo in MKD's Konquest and will be in MKA).
As for Belokk, KenshiMaster16 is correct. Belokk was created by Eurocom and he wasn't included in the home versions of MK4/MKG because Midway didn't like him.

to Shadaloo: sorry i didn't mean to insult anyone i just couldn't believe that they didn't know who khameleon was (i found out about her in a mag not the net).

Frost had a purpose and she's part of the storyline. The betrayal of Frost lead Sub-Zero to several things: Survive in MKDA (because whitout Frost, Sub-Zero had attacked the Deadly Alliance like Kung Lao, Cage, Sonya, Jax & Kitana), know his heritage (and obtained his MKD Armor) and finally rescue Kenshi.
Surely the Khameleon's ending will have more impact than any from Frost, but Frost is a established all-know character, and the Khameleon's role perfectly any other character...
Khameleon hasn't any importance at all, the real important thing in this thread is Reptile and the true of his race, and I prove that Khameleon isn't necessary at all, and for Reptile can be more interesting if he knows the true by other side...
Period.

But this pic has a major plothole: How can Reptile has Khameleon of ally and not know the truth? Khameleon doesn't know the true before the MK3/UMK3/MKT? Or she was a totally fool and until MKT she doesn't prove to tell Reptile the truth?

Yeah, but also the MKTeam used Khameleon for the de-evolution of Reptile. They said that Khameleon is the last-know matriarch of the Zaterrans, and as more far he's from her more de-evolves. Look at the MKAr render, and you see Reptile like his MKDA form. This indicates 2 things: Or Khameleon is far away in another realm like MKDA (and very hard to her to tell the truth to Reptile) or he's definitively death (and Reptile will conserve his actual aspect 4ever).
Khameleon is a real character? Yes, but the MKTeam isn't forced to put all true characters like playable fighters...

the render is just the DA and D characters how they were in that game, they probaly wont look like that in A, except for the characters that werent in those two games and had to be transformed into 3d.

Shinomune,
I respectfully disagree with you. I hold Khameleon and Frost in the same level of importance and relevance.

Just as milsar said...frost and khameleon lay sorta in the same level of importance. Frosts betrayal led sub to find the ancienct civilization in outworld where he found his armour...Khameleon is a direct link to reptile and his existence. she controls his evolution and his race. Her presence has her own purpose along with supporting anothe main characters.
When i look at it yes...khameleon could be sent to the backstory...but so could ALOT of people. And like i said before so could alot of people who have littler reference to the storyline than khameleon.
I find it real funny Shinomune that you agree khameleon will have a greater impact on the MK storyline than frost but yet you think khameleon should be left in the backstory and frost is the all known characters. The big wrap up for MKA is story...if kameleon has a greater impacting story then how could you possibly say she should only be referred to and not in the game? but yet let other lesser important characters run playable? that makes no sense.
It doesnt matter how you feel about how khameleon affects the storyline...the fact is she does....and its not a small impact either. yes reptiles bio says Khameleon is an ally which indicates he may have met her....but isnt it possible that nitara could have told him? Just because he knows doesnt mean he met up with her....because if he did he would be back in his human form through re-evolution. Unless khameleon is keeping him from evolving so people like Khan won't know she is near. Either way she is key. And she should be kept as a secret character in MKA just as she was in MK Trilogy.

But 1, Khameleon told him because he knew in MK4 and as he devolved he forgot mostly everything except since he was Kahn's servant so long that's what he remmbers

Oh my dog !
I can't believe it got 18 pages now !!

I only try to show that this greater impact (the true about Zaterra) isn't exclusive from Khameleon (can be make by other character). Khameleon appearing in MKAr like playable fighter? Cool. Welcome. But the true is that the "true about Zaterra" by himself isn't important, the important thing is the Reptile's reaction about the true. Khameleon without the true has 0 purpose in the saga (is really necessary make a neary all revamped character (like a totally new character) with caducity of one game?), and depend how react Reptile when he knows the true, this can be his last appareance too...
If MKAr was the last chapter of the MK saga, Khameleon & Reptile (after to know the true) would kill Shao Kahn, and would live happy trying to recovering them race... but with next chapters after MKAr, aside of the Shao Kahn's nonappearance (if Shao Kahn survives or not MKAr is indifferent to me), there wouldn't be reason (from MKAr) to comeback neither Reptile or Khameleon (yeah, perfectly someone can kill Khameleon and Reptile reappeared in MK8 for vengeance her, but the main thing of the "true about Zaterra" is make Reptile a character more interesting and developed, not making him another "avenger"...), and I think that like me, you want to see Reptile in the next chapters, with his aspect de-evoluted or not, but sure with his story evolved.

That's where you're wrong.
Game Informer: When Mortal Kombat: Armageddon was announced, some people cried out because it was for the current generation of consoles. What was the reason behind going with current-gen instead of next-gen?
Ed Boon: The main thing was timing. We have always introduced Mortal Kombat games to established systems and while we’re totally jazzed about doing 360 games and doing PS3 games, our concern for doing it so early was that it would have been a launch title for PS3 and the 360 would only had been out for about a year. We really wanted a bigger install base of players. Second, the idea of doing a Mortal Kombat game with all of the characters on the next-gen would have been too much content because we already had a head start with Deadly Alliance and Deception. So we just thought to fill in all of the ones we haven’t done and do the entire roster as one of the big features in the game.

um ok, i was talking costum wise, so where was i wrong?

The characters in DA got made over for Deception. I'm sure there will be some tweaking done with Armageddon, as well.
As for Khameleon, she should have a sort of Reptile Shaolin Monks look with a little bit of Mileena or Frost mixed in. Someone way earlier in this thread did a really cool sketch of her.

We should all just start a petition to include kameleon and send it to mr. boon

those things never really work.

Shinomune:
Khameleon's purpose in MK is not just to reveal to reptile the truth. Of course someone like Nitara could have told reptile about khameleon or his past which explains why he has Khameleon listed as an ally. But if Khameleon's existence was made known to reptile i think all someone told him was that she existed and not the truth about his past...if he knew that then Shao Khan would not be listed as his ally.
Khameleon's role goes further than just a messenger. She falls in the line of importance like Nitara. Nitara's purpose for being in MK was to free her realm....thats all. That was her only purpose. Khameleon doesnt want to free her realm because it was destroyed. Khameleon wants to repopulate her race and restore the saurion race. This purpose alone gives her grounds to support herself as a stand alone character. It just adds more juice to the story that the person she has to repopulate with is reptile and in order to do that she has to contact him and let him know his past. Nitara was in MK to free her realm...Khameleon is in MK to restore her realm or her people if you want to say....Yes khameleon adds on to reptiles story but she has her own also...like where was she all this time and the whole time up until trilogy? how did she survive? who was she working for in order to survive? She has alot of backstory to fill up for herself and reptile. And all of this story is not something that can be filled in by just mentioning.