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03/08/2006 02:48 AM (UTC)
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Well she has potential to be in the same goes for Jattaka and Kia since they had a storyline to i think.
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03/08/2006 02:49 AM (UTC)
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Hello, I am from Hermosillo Sonora Mexico, I am a afan of mortal kombat...
Reptile was a simple ninja in MK1, but in the actual time, he has change for a reptil-dinosaur tipe, in my opinion, this is very good, and in this is good for the game.
In MKA, I think, reptile have a new look, and I wait the best for this game and for reptile; A carismatic character of MK.
I dont imagine a Mk whitout reptile...
MORTA KOMBAT ARMAGEDDON, Is coming.........
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03/08/2006 03:28 AM (UTC)
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finally a awesome topic with alot of thought about Khameleon.
I hope she's in. If not. their's always next gen MK.
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03/08/2006 03:28 AM (UTC)
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Khameleon is nothing more than an updated reptile in the first place, name and all. In MK Reptile had both Scorpion and Sub-Zero's moves. Khameleon in the MK3 series had all the ninja moves. And with a storyline tieing into reptile to boot Khameleon was just a throw back to him. I'm hope Khameleon does come back. But I think he and she will play alot like Shujinko other then changing characters every 30 seconds. But if they did that, I hope He/She's special moves would change upon the change of fighting style.
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03/08/2006 03:48 AM (UTC)
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bloodzerox20 Wrote:
Ed said any charecter that threw a punch in any of the MK games would be in it. so that means:
1. C/Khamelion's
2. Meat
Clue#1: Meat was in conquest mode in MKD He seemed like his own charecter.
Clue#2: That seems to be Meat on the to right hand side in the firy background "i Think" in the MKA Poster with all the Charecters on them (exept Motaro) "i.e. I know motaro is in the game"
Clue#3: Where Khamelion is located as an allie in reptiles bio. Card.
Clue#4: EVERY SINGLE CHARECTER WILL BE BACK!!!!, THAT MEANS MEAT, CHAMELION, KHAMELION, AND THIS BOB/HERO GUY, I THINK HE IS THE GUY IN THE GREEN PANTS THAT FIGHTS BLAZE IN THE BACKGROUND OF MK'S PIT STAGE.
furiouswink

First off, being in Konquest mode doesn't mean really anything, as you could say, 'oh, Villager #165 is going to be in MK8!!'
Second off, Meat is a COSTUME, not a CHARACTER. BIG difference. Chameleon and Khameleon WERE considered characters. Meat was NOT.
Third off, Meat is not in the MKA poster. There are obviously characters left off of it, but he isn't one of them. Why? Because he is not a character.
Fourth off, Every single character WILL be back. But since Meat is a costume, that means he is not a character, which means he will NOT be back. That's like saying Jax's alternate from MK:DA will be back, but as another character with a new name. wow "Bob"/"Hero" is the new Konquest mode guy, so we don't really know what he does or why he's in MK. Guess we won't know till E3 of till we play it ourselves.
The only real character that has enough potential to make it into MKA is Khameleon.
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03/08/2006 03:57 AM (UTC)
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Well out of the remaining characters... there are only 3 that are actual characters.... Khameleon, Jataaka, and Kia...This doesnt count the gods....
Jataaka and Kia have a slim shot at making MK A... but still possible...
Khameleon... the odds of her making MKA are actually really good.
and to Seanay... its clearly you dont know anything about what your talking about... Boon said 60+ characters... only 58 have been confirmed... thats counting Motaro.... now Bob... might not even be a playable character.. keep in mind that Boon also said that the conquest characters might not be playable until future MK games.
so givin the fact that there are 60+ characters... and Khameleon, Jataaka, Kia... then the Earth, Water, Fire gods... are the only remaining official characters... there are high chances that Khameleon will make the game... as for you MK MS characters... its still a possibility.
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03/08/2006 04:01 AM (UTC)
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They mentioned her SO many times in MKDA and MKD that it would seem
they're forced to use her or else they did all that for nothing.
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03/08/2006 04:03 AM (UTC)
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Even without an official statement from Ed Boon, I have evidence Khameleon, the female palette swap ninja, is in MKA. I’m not going to address Chameleon or say anything about him, because there is still little information on him. But even though I have no connection with any staff on Mortal Kombat works whatsoever, I am still going to tell you this; she might be in Armageddon.
But after extensive searching I found that Ed Boon knows greatly of Khameleon and that she is already being planned for MK: A. Why you may ask? It’s because she’s referenced not only in Deception but Deadly Alliance as well. It bugged me all night after thinking on the C/Khameleons, but now after a few lucky finds, I am sure that she is in.
Reason 1 in Deception:

Take a DAMN good look at this picture. It clearly states, no photo editing, as it was a picture taken off a television screen (notice the slant in the picture), that Khameleon is referenced. Khameleon is the only character to be used as an ally or referenced to any actual existence. This clearly shows that the Khameleon is not a dead palette-swap and it, being Ed Boon in particular, acknowledges Khameleon as if an actual character into the series, proving her in recent appearances, kinda.
Reason 2 in Deadly Alliance:
Playing back through I caught a glimpse of this and have now also confirmed Khameleon being referenced with connection to even deeper roots; Khameleon was a victim of Shao Kahn destroying and taking her home land. As we know this to only ever appear before in Trilogy, this current event shows her as actually still in existence and possibly still training. If you play through as Nitara in Deadly Alliance, take note of this:
“You must successfully learn the Kama. Khameleon would have mastered it with ease had her culture not been clubbed by Shao Kahn ages ago...”
This clearly defines Khameleon not only as an actual existiance and not just a mere palette-swap, but taking place in actual events involved with Reptile and Shao Kahn.
Reason 3 in Trilogy:
Her mission was to contact Reptile and inform him of what Shao Kahn had done to their race, as Reptile was now a loyal serant of Shao Kahn. With that said, it DOES go on to state that Khameleon DOES contact Reptile, as Reptile turns good, and defeats Shao Kahn with the help of Khameleon. Later on in the series other events prove this not to be true, until the mention in Deadly Alliance and Deception, which were mainstream games.
Reason 4 in Deception:
Not really completely confirmed this one, as only most likely Ed Boon knows this, but in Deception, in Outworld in the Living Forest, you can catch a slight glimpse of a gray garbed female character. I’ve seen it however it is impossible to get an actual picture or even pause because she quickly disapears. Maybe it is just something of coinsidence, but originally in Trigloy she was refrenced as being in the Living Forest and you would fight her in the Living Forest. So more and more stuff is stacking up.
Other Reasons:
As I stated before Ed Boon says he is turning over every stone basically and ending everyone's story. This means that Reptile and his current involvement and his destiny pretty much will involve Khameleon, as it has in the past, and as just shown, in the future.

You got it all wrong, to "resemble" the former ruler of outworld meaning to use reptile to form his "onaga's" body. If you noticed in sindel's ending the sarcopogis looked almost exact to the onaga that was in the present.
EDIT* Nevermind i see what you were intending.
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03/08/2006 04:12 AM (UTC)
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If they have Khameleon under Reptile's allies. Then that's a probability that she might be included in the game.
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03/08/2006 04:13 AM (UTC)
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look at raiden's ending in MK:DA you see onaga in the clouds in his true formfurious
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03/08/2006 04:20 AM (UTC)
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Khameleon will probably make the game... she is an official character... and she has been in a fighting game... so the odds of her making the game are good....
Meat and Chameleon... will probably not make the game... because they are not official character... now dont get me wrong... they might be included in the game... but probably not as playable characters... Meat might be a skin once again... and Chameleon... might not even appear... but if he does.. .probably just as a hidden character behind some other character.
Tremor, Tasia, No-Face... odds are they wont make the game... as cool as they could be... they wont be in the game... so the best bet for them making the game is through konquest... or from Kreate mode... so dont expect to see much of them. and they may even become future MK characters in MK8?
Jataaka and Kia... odds are possible... they are official characters... and when boon says... New characters... he might be talking about these 2 characters... because they have yet to be seen in a fighting game... and not many people know who they are... but givin the fact that they are official characters, its still a possibility... .then again.. .they may be saving these 2 for later MK games. aka MK8?
Earth, Water, Fire gods.... its possible... but they are probably saving them for later MK games. like MK8?
basically expect Khameleon ... and maybe the MK MS characters... other then that... Kreate mode is probably the best bet.
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03/08/2006 04:23 AM (UTC)
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TheCrashy247 Wrote:
Well out of the remaining characters... there are only 3 that are actual characters.... Khameleon, Jataaka, and Kia...This doesnt count the gods....
Jataaka and Kia have a slim shot at making MK A... but still possible...
Khameleon... the odds of her making MKA are actually really good.
and to Seanay... its clearly you dont know anything about what your talking about... Boon said 60+ characters... only 58 have been confirmed... thats counting Motaro.... now Bob... might not even be a playable character.. keep in mind that Boon also said that the conquest characters might not be playable until future MK games.
so givin the fact that there are 60+ characters... and Khameleon, Jataaka, Kia... then the Earth, Water, Fire gods... are the only remaining official characters... there are high chances that Khameleon will make the game... as for you MK MS characters... its still a possibility.
did boon ever actually say there would be 60+ characters or did like game informer say that and everyone just ran with it.
i've learned to take everything about mortal kombat with a grain of salt, so 60+ means around 58 or so(at least in my opinion). and if there are two konquest characters then that yours whole roster of 60.
bottom line is i don't think khameleon will make the cut.
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03/08/2006 05:30 AM (UTC)
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I feel confident that Khameleon will be announced sooner or later. She is apart of the official storyline and Ed did say he didnt want to leave any stones unturned.
Also Im keeping my fingers crossed for Chameleon, Meat to finally make official status and for Monster to also be playable. To me the roster wont be complete unless these 3 characters join the ranks in MKA.
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03/08/2006 07:43 AM (UTC)
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I think she i sin it!
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fedegita
03/08/2006 08:36 AM (UTC)
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Sorry I just found this thread, but where did that reptile video come from? I've unlocked all the stuff on Deception and I dont have any character profile video thningy of reptile confusedconfused
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Sorry I just found this thread, but where did that reptile video come from? I've unlocked all the stuff on Deception and I dont have any character profile video thningy of reptile confusedconfused

MKD's premium pack/collector's edition bonus disc, the one with MK1 on it. Not on the standard Deception disc.
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03/08/2006 12:21 PM (UTC)
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I think we are all counting our eggs before they hatch. In my opinion. Which is ok, but to save for lack of argument. Midway/Boon for that matter won't give you all of the "candy" just yet. There would be no fun, and the public would have nothing to bite on till the game came out. What is happening right now is that they have us running in circles and speculating on wether Khameleon will be returning, or any other character for that matter. I believe that they by saying that there will be 60+ characters was the snagging point for us to get us going. From what ive seen from the fellow community members gives strong reason and possibility that Khameleon will return. They have us biting on that hook hard now, good job Midway/Boon.
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03/08/2006 12:48 PM (UTC)
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subzero961 Wrote:
I feel confident that Khameleon will be announced sooner or later. She is apart of the official storyline and Ed did say he didnt want to leave any stones unturned.
Also Im keeping my fingers crossed for Chameleon, Meat to finally make official status and for Monster to also be playable. To me the roster wont be complete unless these 3 characters join the ranks in MKA.

Omfg. I seriously don't know how many times people have to say that; Meat is a costume, he was a joke, he has NO story line, and he is NOT a character. I don't even know why people even think of him anymore. He is nothing.
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03/08/2006 01:23 PM (UTC)
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Excellent thread!
I have also seen all those “signs” that in fact confirm Khameleon as a real character and not just an “extra” thing for fun (like Chameleon/Meat). The only one I have missed is that one in Konquest, the gray female ninja, I don’t remember ever seeing her, maybe I did, I don’t know.
So anyways, I think its very likely that we see Khameleon in this game, like Ed stated: “Every character that has ever thrown a punch” will be there, and she is one of those underrated characters that actually had a storyline, unlike the others who were there but had absolutely nothing to do with the game (again, Meat/Chameleon).
Her role in the game could be very interesting and important. I believe, that if well developed, her involvement with Nitara, Reptile and Shao Kahn can cause many twists. Who knows? She and Reptile might even succeed in reforming they extinct race, etc.
BUT, we must also take into consideration that its also very likely that she will NOT be in the game. Although we might consider her important, maybe the team doesn’t see much future or promise in her character, so she might not be in the game at all, or maybe they are saving her for the next gen games.
Maybe she will grow to become a more important character in the future and not in the present game.
I also have to agree with Shermax about what he said, Jade/Smoke/Reptile etc were also mere characters with no real storyline or originality, yet they evolved to become some of the main protagonists of the games and fan faves.
Im guessing the same can happen to Chameleon and Meat. Hopefully, Chameleon is not a crappy clone of Reptile and the past mk male ninjas if they ever decide to make him a real character in the future.
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03/08/2006 02:26 PM (UTC)
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Khameleon is a character and it is possible she will make this game. It wouldn't make sense to leave her out given her story and the involvement she would have with Reptile.
I suppose Boon and co could be waiting to reveal her. She could be a surprise character that we unlock in the game. The clues you mention I would assume hint at her being in a future game and MKA should definitely be it. If they're going the completion route, then she has to be or at least should be.
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03/08/2006 05:35 PM (UTC)
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subzero961 Wrote:
I feel confident that Khameleon will be announced sooner or later. She is apart of the official storyline and Ed did say he didnt want to leave any stones unturned.
Also Im keeping my fingers crossed for Chameleon, Meat to finally make official status and for Monster to also be playable. To me the roster wont be complete unless these 3 characters join the ranks in MKA.

Omfg. I seriously don't know how many times people have to say that; Meat is a costume, he was a joke, he has NO story line, and he is NOT a character. I don't even know why people even think of him anymore. He is nothing.

I really dont care what you have to say by all respects, Ive heard people say this millions of times but that still DOESNT change the fact that I would like to see Meat become a playable character. Sorry I dont share your opinion but your going to learn to accept that not everyone shares the same opinion with you.
P.S. I know what your trying to say, Meat is just a costume character, yeah yeah, I know, Ive been with the series since the beginning, but Im trying to give my opinion that Meat should be turned into a canon character. You can agree or disagree but I have every right to state what I would like as well.
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03/08/2006 06:17 PM (UTC)
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I think Khameleon will be in Konquest for sure. I also think she has high chances of being an unlockable playable character.
Personally, I'd like her to have a new set of moves and a new weapon. I always pictured her with an axe like Reptile from MK4/G.
MAYBE Kia and Jataaka will be in Konquest but they have very low chances of being playable.
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03/09/2006 01:15 AM (UTC)
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I think Khameleon will be in Konquest for sure. I also think she has high chances of being an unlockable playable character.
Personally, I'd like her to have a new set of moves and a new weapon. I always pictured her with an axe like Reptile from MK4/G.
MAYBE Kia and Jataaka will be in Konquest but they have very low chances of being playable.

Wow, I didn't know it would spark all this contreversy, btw I don't see Kia jataaka, Gemini, or Ruby in MKA
1. Ruby was in the MKDOTR series as a reference to skarlet perhaps, so it would have to be one or the other, most possibly both.
2. Sareena was fan demandded, Kia and Jataaka were not, and Sareena has something linking Noob and Sub, an ex-Brother of Shadow returning to the Lin Kuei.
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03/09/2006 01:24 AM (UTC)
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bloodzerox20 Wrote:
Ed said any charecter that threw a punch in any of the MK games would be in it. so that means:
1. C/Khamelion's
2. Meat
Clue#1: Meat was in conquest mode in MKD He seemed like his own charecter.
Clue#2: That seems to be Meat on the to right hand side in the firy background "i Think" in the MKA Poster with all the Charecters on them (exept Motaro) "i.e. I know motaro is in the game"
Clue#3: Where Khamelion is located as an allie in reptiles bio. Card.
Clue#4: EVERY SINGLE CHARECTER WILL BE BACK!!!!, THAT MEANS MEAT, CHAMELION, KHAMELION, AND THIS BOB/HERO GUY, I THINK HE IS THE GUY IN THE GREEN PANTS THAT FIGHTS BLAZE IN THE BACKGROUND OF MK'S PIT STAGE.
furiouswink

First off, being in Konquest mode doesn't mean really anything, as you could say, 'oh, Villager #165 is going to be in MK8!!'
Second off, Meat is a COSTUME, not a CHARACTER. BIG difference. Chameleon and Khameleon WERE considered characters. Meat was NOT.
Third off, Meat is not in the MKA poster. There are obviously characters left off of it, but he isn't one of them. Why? Because he is not a character.
Fourth off, Every single character WILL be back. But since Meat is a costume, that means he is not a character, which means he will NOT be back. That's like saying Jax's alternate from MK:DA will be back, but as another character with a new name. wow "Bob"/"Hero" is the new Konquest mode guy, so we don't really know what he does or why he's in MK. Guess we won't know till E3 of till we play it ourselves.
The only real character that has enough potential to make it into MKA is Khameleon.

Well my frind if you look in MKD's Conqwest mode you will see that meat is his own charecter and not a kombatent in a kostumewink
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03/09/2006 01:34 AM (UTC)
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sektor_rulz Wrote:
subzero961 Wrote:
I feel confident that Khameleon will be announced sooner or later. She is apart of the official storyline and Ed did say he didnt want to leave any stones unturned.
Also Im keeping my fingers crossed for Chameleon, Meat to finally make official status and for Monster to also be playable. To me the roster wont be complete unless these 3 characters join the ranks in MKA.

Omfg. I seriously don't know how many times people have to say that; Meat is a costume, he was a joke, he has NO story line, and he is NOT a character. I don't even know why people even think of him anymore. He is nothing.

Because MEAT was his OWN CHARECTER in CONQUEST MODEfuriouswowfurious
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