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09/03/2004 09:15 AM (UTC)
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i am also fed up with all the resurrections. i thought that mkda was taking a new direction, finally adhering to a decision to kill someone off (why else go to the elaborate trouble of showing liu kangs death) and the storyline explained in konquest mode.
i thought characters like sheeva (killed by kahn who was informed of her intentions by kano)
goro (killed by noob) and everyone else that we were informed of being dead during konquest should remain dead (prior to all the ending hypotheticals)
as for kitana i dont really care, never was a favourite of mine but i see she is as much an mk staple as subby or scorp. so yeah the die ressurect thing was stupid.
the DK strikes me as someone who doesnt need a "general" coz he is such a bad ass on his own, why is he fashioned to fit the mould of the other mk bosses in that regard?

I agree, , I thought for sure they were done ressurecting people. That makes this even more dissappointing. I'm just overwhelmed with frustration! This death/ressurection was highly unnecessary (even without knowing all of the story)! I thought the return of Li Mae would me my biggest disappointment of MK (not anymore, that I know why she's in), but, this by far takes the cake. I'd be surprised if this does'nt ruin MK for me (and I've been a fan since the beginning).
And, I also agree that the Dragon king needing bodygaurds is a lame idea. , however, that's one think I wo'nt judge, because I don't know the story, but it just sounds lame.
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kitana wins

09/03/2004 06:06 PM (UTC)
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Quit bringing this thread back- I'm sick of it.
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09/03/2004 06:08 PM (UTC)
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hmmm.. wow wow y did u bump it then???..lol confused
subjay Wrote:
Quit bringing this thread back- I'm sick of it.

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09/03/2004 06:25 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDUn84 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
XiahouDun84 Wrote:
I hope she really is under his control. I like the idea of him taking control of her by reawkening the evil and darkness in her soul. I think she'll break free from his control, before or after he's destroyed.
But I think she's going to do something unforgivable first, like kill Sindel or Jade(although I personally don't want them to die).
I really dont want Sindel to die. Its too soon for her and Jade to go. But I agree, she will have to do something horrible to add a nice feeling to her story when she is good again.
I don't want Jade or Sindel to die so soon either, but Kitana needs to do something so terrible and horrible while she's under the Dragon King's control. If she doesn't kill Jade or Sindel she should somehow be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Edenians or the complete destruction of Edenia.
Throughout all the games Kitana has been trying to redeem herself and undo the damage she did while she was loyal to Shao Kahn. So to have her do something so unforgivable, so horrible and terrible would be perfect for her storyline.

I agree.
I would love it if Edenia was (now that it’s a peaceful land) completely destroyed because of Kitana’s fault. Everything she had been working to fix would be destroyed.
I think it would be a little to rough for her and her story, but it makes her interesting.
I actually think she will die, but for good this time. It makes it a bit more dramatic that Sindel and Jade fight her in kombat (because they have no choice) and the only solution is to finish her.
Something tells me Kitana will die at the hands of her best friend, or at the hands of her mother.
Killing characters does serve a purpose, it makes the story more dramatic, and it gives you a reason to cross your finger and hope your favorite char makes it! Like in a movie. They only bring back the characters that were well liked. Which makes sense, cause people would be pissed if they were gone! With something like mortal kombat, it being so brutial, death is invertible, but you also have to realise your dealing with VERY powerfull beings, some which are beyond dieing, or have the control over life and death (ability to bring chars back.) Don't get upset over such a small detail, last time I checked, out of all fighting games I know of MK has the best story lines!
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I need a great pic here. Edenian people would be my fav. Inbox me pls.

09/03/2004 06:50 PM (UTC)
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I love my Mortal Kombat and have to give props for coming up with storylines every new game. I want my favorite characters (all Edenia related characters) to keep on keeping on. This realm and it's players have facinated me since MKII and I absolutely Love Kitana. My disapointment comes when the 3D models came out the game play slowed down too much and Kitana wasn't as fun to play. I want Kitana to stick around, Evil or Godd I don't care. If she does stay then lets mix it up a little with her. I've read people's idea's of her destroying Edenia. I don't like that idea because I think that there are more characters that could be brought into the MK world from this realm. I mean we have Kitana, Mileena, Sindel, Jade, Rain(is he really the only guy), Sheeva (wasn't from Edenia, but was still brought to MK because of Sindel and I liked her alot). Are there others? I wan't more. I want some Evil to come out of Edenia and to evolve these characters into their own story. IMO the Edenian Characters and their plot points if handled correctly could easily be evolved into their own game, or even TV show given the right guiding hand. More power to Edenia and it's people. Maybe they should begin to conquer the other realms......OOOHHH I LIKE THAT IDEA!!!
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09/03/2004 09:04 PM (UTC)
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Kitana probally has to be evil now, and serve him.... I think it's interesting I love seeing a hero fall
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09/03/2004 09:29 PM (UTC)
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DeadcowX Wrote:
Kitana probally has to be evil now, and serve him.... I think it's interesting I love seeing a hero fall

Especially Kitana. =D
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09/03/2004 10:39 PM (UTC)
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i agree w/ ur points and ideas about Edenia and it's people..
the rain comment was funny.. is he really the only guy?? man imagine having to please all those women..lol to some he's 1 lucky sob..
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I love my Mortal Kombat and have to give props for coming up with storylines every new game. I want my favorite characters (all Edenia related characters) to keep on keeping on. This realm and it's players have facinated me since MKII and I absolutely Love Kitana. My disapointment comes when the 3D models came out the game play slowed down too much and Kitana wasn't as fun to play. I want Kitana to stick around, Evil or Godd I don't care. If she does stay then lets mix it up a little with her. I've read people's idea's of her destroying Edenia. I don't like that idea because I think that there are more characters that could be brought into the MK world from this realm. I mean we have Kitana, Mileena, Sindel, Jade, Rain(is he really the only guy), Sheeva (wasn't from Edenia, but was still brought to MK because of Sindel and I liked her alot). Are there others? I wan't more. I want some Evil to come out of Edenia and to evolve these characters into their own story. IMO the Edenian Characters and their plot points if handled correctly could easily be evolved into their own game, or even TV show given the right guiding hand. More power to Edenia and it's people. Maybe they should begin to conquer the other realms......OOOHHH I LIKE THAT IDEA!!!

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09/03/2004 10:55 PM (UTC)
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Greenroom Wrote:
I love my Mortal Kombat and have to give props for coming up with storylines every new game. I want my favorite characters (all Edenia related characters) to keep on keeping on. This realm and it's players have facinated me since MKII and I absolutely Love Kitana. My disapointment comes when the 3D models came out the game play slowed down too much and Kitana wasn't as fun to play. I want Kitana to stick around, Evil or Godd I don't care. If she does stay then lets mix it up a little with her. I've read people's idea's of her destroying Edenia. I don't like that idea because I think that there are more characters that could be brought into the MK world from this realm. I mean we have Kitana, Mileena, Sindel, Jade, Rain(is he really the only guy), Sheeva (wasn't from Edenia, but was still brought to MK because of Sindel and I liked her alot). Are there others? I wan't more. I want some Evil to come out of Edenia and to evolve these characters into their own story. IMO the Edenian Characters and their plot points if handled correctly could easily be evolved into their own game, or even TV show given the right guiding hand. More power to Edenia and it's people. Maybe they should begin to conquer the other realms......OOOHHH I LIKE THAT IDEA!!!

I liked that post. smile
And yes, Rain is by far (I think) the only known male Edenia character.
A mini series or game with the edenian people would be awesome! Of course it must involve more then just edenia, outworld plays a big role in its story, so do other realms that were/are under Kahns/Onagas control, and of course, the forces of earth that helped them through MK!
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09/10/2004 05:31 PM (UTC)
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subjay Wrote:
Quit bringing this thread back- I'm sick of it.

The same way you are sick of this thread...I'm sick of characters coming back to life, in Mortal Kombat. Kitana is My favorite female character of all time, because of her authenticity. However, if she died, which is a real tragedy (because they are killing another great character, and there are hardly any left), then, as much as I love her, she should have stayed dead. They should have never killed her in the first place.
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09/10/2004 06:30 PM (UTC)
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute! Now Kitana's dead and is ressurrected by the DK? WTF? Last I heard, she was only captured! Even Mileena's, Sindel's, and Jade's bios suggest that Kitana was captured. Now she's dead? The hell?
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09/11/2004 07:53 AM (UTC)
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Yes, killing characters does serve a dramatic purpose. I totally agree with that. I thought that the death of Liu Kang was the best thing they could have possibly done, for the series. But, it's possible to ovedo it, and this is a prime example of overdoing it. There are certain characters you just don't kill, unless you want to kill the series/franchise. I think that Kitana is a key character in the series. In a subtle way, she plays, I believe, an even bigger part in MK than Liu Kang (now, at least). Liu Kang was simply the "chosen one," (the most important role, but the simplest), whereas Kitana's story is tied or linked to different characters' stories, in the series. Killing her does a lot of damage to the story, and believe it or not, even the franchise. Even if she has been ressurected, she'd still dead (to me at least). Death is the most Dramatic effect that you could put into a story, because it's final. Playing with it just takes the believability or authenticity away from the story.
And, I hope to God this (her being killed/ressurected) is'nt true, because if it is, it really really worries me.
FatGuyWithaLittleStaff Wrote:
Killing characters does serve a purpose, it makes the story more dramatic, and it gives you a reason to cross your finger and hope your favorite char makes it! Like in a movie. They only bring back the characters that were well liked. Which makes sense, cause people would be pissed if they were gone! With something like mortal kombat, it being so brutial, death is invertible, but you also have to realise your dealing with VERY powerfull beings, some which are beyond dieing, or have the control over life and death (ability to bring chars back.) Don't get upset over such a small detail, last time I checked, out of all fighting games I know of MK has the best story lines!

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09/11/2004 04:24 PM (UTC)
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I'm surprised this is still up.
The deaths of characters is supposedto be dramatic and supposed to be important; the problem is, the MK team doesn't know how to do that. If Kitana were to be killed off for good and never come back, which I doubt will ever happen, her death should be an event and have meaning and bring closure to her character's story. And the same should go for any reasonably popular or at least important character. Even though I don't give a rat's ass about Liu Kang, I guess his death was unfitting for him. He should have at least had a better death than simply getting jumped by Quan Chi and Shang Tsung.
But here with Kitana, similar to how other characters have died, she's written off in a single sentence. Her death is treated with no impact. And then her death is even further trivialized by having her be resurrecting immediatly afterward. And to top it all off, even if the purpose of this death was so she'd be evil again, do you really think there was NO other way they could have done this without killing/resurrecting her? This is one of those things that makes you want to grab Ed Boon or John Vogel by the head and scream "What the hell are you doing?!" And it might still be easily fixed too, as I pointed out earlier in this thread.
I may be taking this too seriously, but this is disrespectful, not just to Kitana fans, but all MK fans. That a popular character who's been around for so long and has had major impact on the story could be pissed on like nothing.
But, I digress. If it's done, there's nothing we can do about it now. Fortunatly, the other half of Kitana's story, her being evil again, has massive potential. Here we see Kitana being forced to confront her worst fear, Sindel is suddenly put in the same situation as Kitana was in MK3 and how will Mileena react when she learns Kitana's alive and working for Onaga. And what happens afterward: how will Kitana deal with whatever she may do under Onaga's control and how will it affect the other characters close to her? Suppose Kitana does something so evil, she loses all hope. How will she deal with it? Suppose she gives up the Edenian throne out of guilt. What will happen to Edenia? I know some people have been saying Jade should take Kitana's place as ruler of Edenia. She may get her chance soon. There are many possibilies for Kitana's story now and I'm very excited to see where it goes.
As stupid, inane, unnecassary, insulting and disrespectful Kitana's death/resurrection was, IMO, all the possible good that could come out her story now will make up for it.
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09/11/2004 04:57 PM (UTC)
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in which thread are the specifics of kitana's death and resurrection?
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09/11/2004 08:11 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
I'm surprised this is still up.
The deaths of characters is dramatic and supposed to be important, the problem is, the MK team doesn't know how to do that. If Kitana were to be killed off for good and never come back, which I doubt will ever happen, her death should be an event and have meaning and bring closure to her charcater's story. And the same should go for any reasonably popular or at least important character. Even though I don't give a rat's ass about Liu Kang, I guess his deah was unfitting for him. He should have at least had a better death than simply getting jumped by Quan Chi and Shang Tsung.
But here with Kitana, similar to how other characters have died, she's written off in a single sentence. Her death is treated with no impact. And then her death is even further trivialized by having her be resurrecting immediatly afterward. And to top it all off, even if the purpose of this death was so she'd be evil again, do you really think there was NO other way they could have done this without killing/resurrecting her? This is one of those things that makes you want to grab Ed Boon or John Vogel by the head and scream "What the hell are you doing?!" And it might still be easily fixed too, as I pointed out earlier in this thread.
I may be taking this too seriously, this is disrespectful, not just to Kitana fans, but all MK fans. That a popular character who's been around for so long and has had major impact on the story could be pissed on like nothing.
But, I digress. If it's done, there's nothing we can do about it now. Fortunatly, the other half of Kitana's story, her being evil again, has massive potential. Here we see Kitana being forced to confront her worst fear, Sindel is suddenly put in the same situation as Kitana was in MK3 and what how will Mileena react when she learns Kitana's alive and working for Onaga. And what happens afterward, how will Kitana deal with whatever she may do under Onaga's control and how will it affect the other characters close to her? Suppose Kitana does something so evil, she loses all hope. How will she deal with it? Suppose she gives up the Edenian throne out of guilt. What will happen to Edenia? I know some people have been saying Jade should take Kitana's place as ruler of Edenia. She may get her chance soon. There are many possibilies for Kitana's story now and I'm very excited to see where it goes.
As stupid, inane, unnecassary, insulting and disrespectful Kitana's death/resurrection was, IMO, the all possible good that could come out her story now will make up for it.

Very good read, I agree with you totally. However, I think that they should find some creative way to fix this, where she never died (if this is in fact true), but, not like with Johnny Cage (I could have jumped on John Vogel for that BS). I think that the the death of Liu Kang changed a lot in MK. And, I think that Kitana was given an even more important role. I've been an MK fan since the begining, and when I think of MK, the first 2 characters that come to mind are Liu Kang and Kitana, then other characters (Sonya, Kung Lou, Jax, etc...). I don't try to think of them, but they just automatically come to mind. Of course, there are so many other great favorites of mine, but these were two key characters--not always in the spotlight, but neccesary for the story to carry on. Kitana's death, to me is as devastating as someone dying in real life. How can I say this? Because to me, if Kitana is dead, Mortal kombat is dead. That's how serious this is, but, Ed Boon and John Vogel don't seem to think so.
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09/11/2004 09:28 PM (UTC)
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Kitana being eil could have a great part in future Mk games. As long as they don't get rid of her altogether, I'm happy. It was time to get rid ofLiu Kang, as people were pissed of with him being the hero, over and over, but In MK1 people liked him, but his character got stale. I suppose by doing this change of Kitana's alliance, they have given her a fresh start. I just hope they think long and hard about Kung Lao and Sonya, as those are greade A characters and shouldn't be thrown away.
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09/11/2004 09:58 PM (UTC)
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1st I'd like to start by saying I skipped about the last 2 pages of this thread, so if I address anything that was already said I apologize.
Anyway...
What is the big friggin' deal here? So she died and got ressurected... whoopty doo. Big friggin' deal. Haven't we learned about 100 times over that death isn't that big of a deal in the fanciful world of Mortal Kombat?
People make a big huff when a headliner like Liu, or Johnny, or Kitana dies, but like, have we all forgotten the 5 or 6 hundred times Mileena has died and come back? Motoro and Sheeva bought it in the last game and that was only in a sidestory. Scorpion has died and re-died a couple of times since the 1st game, what would really be a big deal is if Scorpion was alive again at some point (Hey, I like that idea, they should use it. Go me)
Anyway, so Kitana might have died and gotten resurrected. Big fat honkin' deal. In nearly half of the endings of each game someone dies, and we don't even know if they're really dead until the next game comes out. Hell, if you know how to do a fatality, a character dies at the end of every other round, and OMG! There they are again when you get back to the select screen!
In short, death means little in outworld, so if you don't like it, ride it out and quit your crying until the next game comes out, cause i'm sure it will be fine by then, and you'll have something brand new to pick at.
That's about it.
Have a nice day. :D
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09/11/2004 10:08 PM (UTC)
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I think The Dragon King believes that Mileena is Kitana, but anybody knows this except Baraka.
IDK this is all confusing now. This looks like a cheap TV show LMAO

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09/11/2004 10:09 PM (UTC)
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hey guys.. lets,let this thread go away..
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queve
09/12/2004 01:06 AM (UTC)
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Leno_mk Wrote:
I think The Dragon King believes that Mileena is Kitana, but anybody knows this except Baraka.
IDK this is all confusing now. This looks like a cheap TV show LMAO

I doubt it. I think he knows who Mileena really is. Remember KItana is his personal body guard, now evil.
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09/12/2004 02:02 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, but -I- would think that anyone in outworld who isn't colorblind would know the difference between Mileena & Kitana, seeing as these games have taken place over several years, and neither of their wardrobe tastes have changed much in that time.
So if no one in Edenia is leaning over to the guy next to him and going, "Psst.. why's the princess wearing pink? And what's with those sais... what happened to her fans?" Then who's to say Onaga should?
As for me personally, I believe he knows Mileena is Mileena, but what do I know? Ya'know? Maybe this guy's right. Let him have his theory.
I think the storyline is the most important thing in MK, just my opinion. I personally don't like this, at all. I think that Kitana is as good as a super hero. So, I look at this as like Wonder Woman dying, or something.
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09/12/2004 07:04 AM (UTC)
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I feel the need to rephrase something I said
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...Kitana's death, to me is as devastating as someone dying in real life.

I did'nt mean this like I typed it. Of course, this is a fiction/fantasy story/person, and has no importants or value to that of an actual human life. Please forgive this stupid comment.
I meant to say that Kitana's death is as devastating as the death of a super hero.
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09/12/2004 09:20 AM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
Yeah, but -I- would think that anyone in outworld who isn't colorblind would know the difference between Mileena & Kitana, seeing as these games have taken place over several years, and neither of their wardrobe tastes have changed much in that time.
So if no one in Edenia is leaning over to the guy next to him and going, "Psst.. why's the princess wearing pink? And what's with those sais... what happened to her fans?" Then who's to say Onaga should?
As for me personally, I believe he knows Mileena is Mileena, but what do I know? Ya'know? Maybe this guy's right. Let him have his theory.

Mileena could had used Kitanas OUTFIT. She could had changed her costume just to trick the people. remember that by that time, Kitana was dead, captured or already evil. But I do agree with some valid points in your post. smile
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