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Nic-V
02/15/2009 09:15 AM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
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I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Yeah, the same way you people still exist who will call
anyone who disagrees with you on MK vs DC, an idiot ect.

Lol not really I just can't take that Bezou guy always being pessimistic XD
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Garlador
02/15/2009 05:25 PM (UTC)
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I'd like to point out that, officially and statistically, MK vs. DCU has sold 1.45 million copies across both PS3 and 360 platforms (630,000 for PS3, 820,000 for Xbox 360). That's still sightly less than their misleading claim of "1.8 million shipped". The game is selling, but it's not selling out or selling brisky. It would be dubbed a "moderate success", about on par with sales for Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. It has not yet managed to sell as many copies as the past few games, but that could be because it hasn't even been out for a year yet.

Despite this, looking at the sales data between MK installments, this one is dropping off rather abruptly compared to its previous installments. That could be due to high level competition (this was the same holiday season to see the release of Resistence 2, Gears of War 2, Prince of Persia, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, Fable 2, World of Warcraft: Wratch of the Lich King, etc), but it also could be due to MK vs DCU losing as many adament MK fans in comparison to gaining curious comic book fans and players. It's probably a combination of all of the above.

I've heard mixed reports about MK vs DCU amongst the hardcore fighting crowd. We MK fans tend to live in a bubble, and we get pretty defensive about MK. We're the same ones who petitioned Midway for MK:A bios, demanded Khameleon be re-introduced, and keep telling ourselves the next MK will be "darker" and "grittier". And I think alot of those fans passed on this game. I know of at least 30 people just at my college who were MK fans and passed on the game due to its comic-book turn, toned down violence, and refusal to make significant gameplay leaps. Conversely, I do know a few Batman fans who picked up the game to play as The Joker. It probably balanced out, but I believe it failed to truly expand its audience (at least for this game).

My personal opinion of the game is it's an alright game. It plays well. A lot of people will say that's enough, but for a guy well-versed in the MK lore, I still find it to be a childish step backwards and a thematic disappointment, which is why I didn't buy it and only gave it a rental. That's my personal opinion, much in the same way I think Zelda: Wind Waker is a fantastic game, but I still hate its art style.

Midway's bankruptcy was not caused by the "failure" of MK vs DCU, nor was it saved by its "succeess." Pure and simple, Midway has not released any top-tier games in a long time, with the exception of cash-cow Mortal Kombat. But as many people have said, one game franchise can't save a company. It's a shame their more original endeavors, such as Psi-Ops, Stranglehold, and Area 51: Blacksite, did not find a strong enough audience to legitimize them as possible franchises to help keep them profitable. Follow that with poor management, unwise money decisions, mediocre games, and a highly competative holiday season, and Midway was sure to take a major hit.

I have my doubts Midway will be able to pull themselves back from the brink. Gamer and stock holder trust in them is rather low, and I doubt many are scurring to invest in what appears to be a sinking company.

What will likely happen is Midway will be forced to sell off their assets, which includes their building, dev kits, and other supplies, while the MK Team will likely be bought up by a big wig studio. Activision Blizzard, perhaps. Maybe EA. Possibly even some Japanese studio (Square Enix surprisingly is rumored to be interested).

MK won't die with Midway, just like it didn't die with Akklaim. It'll just change hands and be produced by some other studio.
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ErmaSco
02/15/2009 06:39 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:


VG chartz doesnt include Kollector Edition and it is not to be trusted .It takes a long time to be updated .


And I dont think nor wish a japanese company would put its hands on MK .Tell me the source of the rumor and Iam very sure it was made up by haters .

MK Team should kontinue either with Midway or anyone else .
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02/15/2009 10:40 PM (UTC)
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lol

Who didn't see this coming? Who honestly did not see midway going under? It was all but certain when the economy turned.

I say good riddance cause midway had produced NOTHING worth playing for YEARS now.

As for mk going to another studio...........

God help anyone who decides to take them on. If they do buy up MK I seriously hope they get rid of BOON and start fresh.

Give the franchise a new look and face without Boon caterpillar eyebrows screwing things up.

And lol @ SE wanting MK. Most likely it'll be EA or ubi who gobble them up and hopefully/mercifully it will end up like KI3 and just talked about and never seen.
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02/16/2009 01:50 AM (UTC)
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Yo, I wanna buy the rights for MK.How does it cost?And I'll take the mk team and maybe booN,but only if shaves his eyebrows.
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ErmaSco
02/16/2009 04:06 AM (UTC)
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lol

Who didn't see this coming? Who honestly did not see midway going under? It was all but certain when the economy turned.

I say good riddance cause midway had produced NOTHING worth playing for YEARS now.

As for mk going to another studio...........

God help anyone who decides to take them on. If they do buy up MK I seriously hope they get rid of BOON and start fresh.

Give the franchise a new look and face without Boon caterpillar eyebrows screwing things up.

And lol @ SE wanting MK. Most likely it'll be EA or ubi who gobble them up and hopefully/mercifully it will end up like KI3 and just talked about and never seen.


I cant see an MK game without Boon

Epic fail tongue The story is getting better and better ..... Mark Thomas doesnt exist . http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-sat-midway-mark-thomasfeb14,0,3062191.story
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02/16/2009 10:00 AM (UTC)
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So if I'm getting this right, they are almost dead. There's still a little chance for them to make it.

Hmm...On one side I'm thinking that it sucks, because of the MK Team. Even tough MK can live on, there will be big insecurity for the MK team untill it goes to another company.

On the other side..MK has been functioning as cash cow for too long. Midway had enough chances to make this a killer game again.

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Nic-V
02/16/2009 02:21 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Possibly even some Japanese studio (Square Enix surprisingly is rumored to be interested).

Where did you hear that? wow
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ErmaSco
02/16/2009 02:34 PM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
Garlador Wrote:
Possibly even some Japanese studio (Square Enix surprisingly is rumored to be interested).

Where did you hear that? wow

I searched for it but could not find it ..

I am glad I could not find it .We dont need Japanese MK .
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02/16/2009 02:59 PM (UTC)
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ErmaSco Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
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Possibly even some Japanese studio (Square Enix surprisingly is rumored to be interested).

Where did you hear that? wow

I searched for it but could not find it ..

I am glad I could not find it .We dont need Japanese MK .


My bad, guys. Square Enix was interested in buying Eidos, not Midway. Major screw up on my part. But they have claimed an interest in establishing a stronger western branch and buying/merging with more American companies.
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02/16/2009 03:09 PM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
ErmaSco Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Garlador Wrote:
Possibly even some Japanese studio (Square Enix surprisingly is rumored to be interested).

Where did you hear that? wow

I searched for it but could not find it ..

I am glad I could not find it .We dont need Japanese MK .


My bad, guys. Square Enix was interested in buying Eidos, not Midway. Major screw up on my part. But they have claimed an interest in establishing a stronger western branch and buying/merging with more American companies.


It is OK .Please keep looking out for information and informe us .
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02/16/2009 03:49 PM (UTC)
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WTF is wrong with a jap house making MK? You some kind of biggot? Let someone who has the time, skill, and innovation take MK if BOON and his clan can't do shit all with the franchise (which has been evident sine MK went 3D). Be they jap, euro or american.

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02/16/2009 03:54 PM (UTC)
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colguile Wrote:
WTF is wrong with a jap house making MK? You some kind of biggot? Let someone who has the time, skill, and innovation take MK if BOON and his clan can't do shit all with the franchise (which has been evident sine MK went 3D). Be they jap, euro or american.



Ed Boon and his clan made the game in the beginning .And even when MK turned to 3D it still sold as hell .You may dislike it but many other including me still love it .

MKvsDCU made a good return to the 2 D style .

Trust me ......trust me in this without the MK team MK is lost .
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02/16/2009 09:34 PM (UTC)
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just a couple quick thoughts

1) MK was originally based off japanise mythology so letting the 'experts' take over might not be so bad... even though there is no indication at all that it will happen
2) Marvel comics filed chapter 11 in the late 90s (maybe mid 90s) and I think it is safe to say they are doing pretty good for themself. I will take a shitty incredible hulk movie over the MK2 movie anyday.
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02/17/2009 10:02 AM (UTC)
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I will still follow MK if it goes to another company... A fresh new take on the series should be good.

If the company screws with previous storyline, however, I will be mad.
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02/18/2009 12:36 AM (UTC)
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NinjaHellSpawn Wrote:
1) MK was originally based off japanise mythology so letting the 'experts' take over might not be so bad... even though there is no indication at all that it will happen


Nope, Chinese mythology. It's only really had Japanese mythological influences since about MKDA wiht the introduction of the Oni. But Shang Tsung, Liu Kang, the tournament, etc was all Chinese influenced. The names and blatant Bruce Lee movie references kinda gives it away
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02/18/2009 02:39 AM (UTC)
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fedegita Wrote:
NinjaHellSpawn Wrote:
1) MK was originally based off japanise mythology so letting the 'experts' take over might not be so bad... even though there is no indication at all that it will happen

Nope, Chinese mythology. It's only really had Japanese mythological influences since about MKDA wiht the introduction of the Oni. But Shang Tsung, Liu Kang, the tournament, etc was all Chinese influenced. The names and blatant Bruce Lee movie references kinda gives it away

In fact, that would be both Chinese and Japanese and not just since MKDA. The name Raiden (Japanese god of thunder aka Raijin) clearly has been giving it away since the very beginning. Not to mention ninjas (Hanzo Hasashi wink) or many other Japanese names like Kintaro, Reiko, Fujin, Kenshi, Hotaru, Shujinko etc.

BTW, I don't mind MK being taken by a Japanese company as well. I'm really curious how would their exceptional creativity influence the game.
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02/18/2009 03:09 AM (UTC)
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What I have found is that the people who usually rip MKDC to shreads usually suck in the game....at least as far as the gameplay players online I know that's the case, as far as "fans" it's just because some people still can't get over MK merging with DC in a game...

Even though the game sold 2 mill mark, way more and successful then the previous MK's and that's with the dreadful "T rating" OMG....such a dumb idea that banked millions....not so dumb I guess.

Midway was in trouble before MKDC so anyone that says MKDC was the worst idea or the final nail in the coffin doesn't know what they're talking about.

I don't believe the MK team is perfect on a side note, nobody is...not them, capcom, namco nobody....but to hate on the game at this point is pointless. I mean hell, I'm seeing some of the SAME people on here and other MK sites who ripped MKDC prior now saying they "love the game"
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02/18/2009 03:41 AM (UTC)
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Poor Midway.....
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02/18/2009 05:06 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
What I have found is that the people who usually rip MKDC to shreads usually suck in the game....at least as far as the gameplay players online I know that's the case, as far as "fans" it's just because some people still can't get over MK merging with DC in a game...

Even though the game sold 2 mill mark, way more and successful then the previous MK's and that's with the dreadful "T rating" OMG....such a dumb idea that banked millions....not so dumb I guess.

Midway was in trouble before MKDC so anyone that says MKDC was the worst idea or the final nail in the coffin doesn't know what they're talking about.

I don't believe the MK team is perfect on a side note, nobody is...not them, capcom, namco nobody....but to hate on the game at this point is pointless. I mean hell, I'm seeing some of the SAME people on here and other MK sites who ripped MKDC prior now saying they "love the game"


Let me start by asking you what the hell that first paragraph has to do with this thread. Actually, I'll answer that for you: nothing.

As for the rest of your post, it SHIPPED 1.8 million. That's in Midway's pocket. The stores themselves have not sold all copies that have been shipped out. It's already been outlined here that MKDA has far outsold every other MK from this generation, I seem to remember it gaining platinum status pretty quickly for most platforms and oddly enough it still sells used copies. Not only that, but a game selling a lot of copies doesn't make it good if it still has fundamental flaws. It just means that the general public either doesn't know what the hell a good game is or is very loose with their money.

MKvDC was the final nail in the coffin. I'm not sure you understand what that saying means. Midway was already going in the tank, and with a last ditch effort crapped out the abomination that is MKvDC, thinking that the DC label would help the game outsell any MK before it. Needless to say, it didn't happen fast enough, and Midway is now down the toilet for the time being. I hope they come out of it, but we need to get the facts straight here.
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ErmaSco
02/18/2009 05:59 AM (UTC)
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Many of you are missing a very important point .Midway was sold a month ago before MkvsDCU was released .

Before Midway was sold , it had its time to deal with the debt but suddenly it was sold .

MKvsDCU was planed 2 years ago .So, the goal with it was to sell alot of copies in a very long time .And then start working on MK9 .

Midway isnt dead already .It still has a chance .If they took it right they will survive .

And yes I do mind any other people to put their hand on MK beside the MK team .
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What I have found is that the people who usually rip MKDC to shreads usually suck in the game....



If someome thinks a game sucks ass, why the hell would they take the time to master it? I know you don't like Tekken, Virtua Fighter, and Soul Calibur, are you a master at them? Of course not, so what on earth is your point?
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02/18/2009 03:46 PM (UTC)
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Midway has been doing poorly for ages. For anyone to blame their fall on MkvsDc is very unfair considering how well the game ha sdone.

Truth is, MKvsDC was a success. No matter how much you hate it or love it, its done well and it’s a great game.

I’m not sure, but I see a LOT of potential for MK if it was to go to some other hands. I’m guessing it will still have most of the main team, but who knows, new blood wouldn’t hurt to spin and twist things towards a new direction.

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02/18/2009 03:51 PM (UTC)
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Yeah it may be good when it is put to onother team but it may also get worse .I really think that the best for us is to stay with Midway .MK team has been dealing with the game for almost two decades and most of the great parts in it came fro their heads . I really respect all the other companies Japanese or the others but I really really cant see it with other hands . Look at Crash Bandicot and other games series which lost its greatness when someone else delt with it .
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02/19/2009 03:49 AM (UTC)
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I'm honestly laughing HARD at midway's situation right now. I'm in tears from laughter. How the hell do they let themselves go that much into debt?

Good lord....how they must CRY for that days of MK3. lol

MK will not die. It's a cash cow that appeals to a certain novelty gamer who likes gimmicks and doesn't care about tweaked and tested gameplay. Some studio will take notice of this and pick the title up.
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