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02/13/2009 06:19 PM (UTC)
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ThunderGod_Raiden Wrote:
no company is stupid enough to risk bringing on the mk team to produce games. It's a huge risk, honestly if Midway was stupid enough to think that mk vs dcu was enough to save them and it didnt what makes any other game developer to think its going to help them financially. Companies all over the world play the numbers game to make themselves look good. There wasnt enough copies sold to help Midway and other companies see that. It's over

That whole post is just ignorant. Large publishers like Midway don't rely on just one game to keep them operating. They rely on several throughout the year. Midway's demise is from years of poor business practices and decisions. MKvsDCU's purpose was in no way to completely save Midway from it's mountain of debt. Anyone with half of a brain should realize that.
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02/13/2009 09:28 PM (UTC)
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We should have all been worried when we read this:

"It would appear that Midway is hoping for successful releases of their upcoming games, Wheelman and This is Vegas."

Yep. They're pretty fucked. But maybe... just maybe... the court will work in their favor.

Eitherway, none of this is the fault of Mortal Kombat. MKvsDC, no matter what you may think of it, was a success as far as fighting games go. It is by far the best selling fighting game right now and will be such until the release of Street Fighter 4.

You just got to remember, fighting games aren't particularly popular right now. The industry is being dominated by first-person shooters, and hopefully Street Fighter will invigorate the genre.
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02/14/2009 12:46 AM (UTC)
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MK vs. DC isn't responsible, Midway's been in the finacial shitter for a while. The previous CEO was being sued by his ex and his own son for christ's sake. That's why he sold the company, and MK vs. DC's sales were actually pretty good.
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WarriorPrincess
02/14/2009 01:30 AM (UTC)
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Whatever! Could care less about Midway. MK is all that concerns me.
And I have faith MK will live with or without Midway at the helm of it.
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Garlador
02/14/2009 05:05 AM (UTC)
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Midway is in deep, deep troubles.

Midway is screwed

Better hope MK vs DCU magically sells at least, oh, 8 million more copies.
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WarriorPrincess
02/14/2009 05:29 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Midway is in deep, deep troubles.

Midway is screwed

Better hope MK vs DCU magically sells at least, oh, 8 million more copies.


Sweet Jesus that's alot of debt.
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ErmaSco
02/14/2009 05:57 AM (UTC)
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Garlador Wrote:
Midway is in deep, deep troubles.

Midway is screwed

Better hope MK vs DCU magically sells at least, oh, 8 million more copies.


Was that really the right way to say that the debt is 250,000,000 ?
Before MKvsDCU was released Midway had 167,000,000 and now you will find out that they have much more .

They can repay the debt but after that they wont be able to operate ,so this is why they used Chapter 11 .

If things went worse ,I hope the team is picked by some other Company that respect the title and gives the team more time and bigger budget .

MK cant save Midway forever .
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02/14/2009 06:55 AM (UTC)
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oh, shocking
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Nic-V
02/14/2009 10:54 AM (UTC)
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Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow
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ErmaSco
02/14/2009 10:57 AM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Heheh that was funny wink
They want a fighting game to sell more than 4.2 millions in 3 months !

MKvsDCU saved Midway from filling chapter 7 .Anyone with a brain would know that .
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02/14/2009 04:41 PM (UTC)
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No one ever reads anything anymore.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. It does NOT necessarily mean anything will happen to the continuation of the MK franchise, which will still be published by Midway.

We get all the lurking idiots jumping in saying HA! no gore! stupid heroes! this shows you! etc etc etc.

Seriously, please understand what is really going on and what Chapter 11 even means before ripping open that can of immaturity you have been sitting on.

No really. Get the facts straight first.


I understand you completely, man.

But the word "bankruptcy" is a huge turn off to people. It pretty much ruins a business. Look at what happened to the singing group TLC. Even after they filed for bankruptcy, they were able to main a decent amount of wealth, but one people heard about it, their album sales dropped.

Unless another company takes up MK, it's gone, dude.
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02/14/2009 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
No one ever reads anything anymore.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. It does NOT necessarily mean anything will happen to the continuation of the MK franchise, which will still be published by Midway.

We get all the lurking idiots jumping in saying HA! no gore! stupid heroes! this shows you! etc etc etc.

Seriously, please understand what is really going on and what Chapter 11 even means before ripping open that can of immaturity you have been sitting on.

No really. Get the facts straight first.


I understand you completely, man.

But the word "bankruptcy" is a huge turn off to people. It pretty much ruins a business. Look at what happened to the singing group TLC. Even after they filed for bankruptcy, they were able to main a decent amount of wealth, but one people heard about it, their album sales dropped.

Unless another company takes up MK, it's gone, dude.


Why dont we take marvel as an example rather than TLC .Anyway I really think that MK and its team will be picked up by onother company .I just have feelings .
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02/14/2009 06:13 PM (UTC)
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ErmaSco Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Heheh that was funny wink
They want a fighting game to sell more than 4.2 millions in 3 months !

MKvsDCU saved Midway from filling chapter 7 .Anyone with a brain would know that .


You may be on to something. The introduction of DC characters, the toned down gore... could this be a ploy to just make money? As if they sat down and said "What could we do to make a lot of money?" and just screwed over the fans of either franchise?
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WarriorPrincess
02/14/2009 06:29 PM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Yeah, the same way you people still exist who will call
anyone who disagrees with you on MK vs DC, an idiot ect.
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02/14/2009 07:01 PM (UTC)
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WarriorPrincess Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Yeah, the same way you people still exist who will call
anyone who disagrees with on MK vs DC, an idiot ect.


Disgrace, fast-paced, boogers on your face, either way MK is slowly fading away.

Though it will hurt me terribly to see MK go - for it is my insperation in going into game design - I honestly believe it is time for MK to end grcaefully, as it should have with MKArmageddon.
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02/14/2009 11:17 PM (UTC)
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WingsOfRedemption Wrote:
ErmaSco Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Bezou Wrote:
I knew MK vs DC was a bad idea, but I had no idea that it was enough to destroy the company.

Oh God... These people still exist? wow


Heheh that was funny wink
They want a fighting game to sell more than 4.2 millions in 3 months !

MKvsDCU saved Midway from filling chapter 7 .Anyone with a brain would know that .


You may be on to something. The introduction of DC characters, the toned down gore... could this be a ploy to just make money? As if they sat down and said "What could we do to make a lot of money?" and just screwed over the fans of either franchise?


I lol'd
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02/15/2009 01:03 AM (UTC)
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ErmaSco Wrote:
If a Japanese company or any other company puts its hands on MK without the MK team then I wont buy it .Because it wont be MK .

Chapter 11 means nothing though .


Yep, thank you.

All the people that want Namco, Capcom or some other jap company to get MK....that will RUIN MK, period and it won't be MK it'll be Soul Calibur or Tekken and a poor attempt at a "Dark Japanese fighting game" with an MK logo on it...boo and people think it sucks now? It would not be MK, it would be anime ninjas dressed in Yellow, blue, red, green and grey. Boo... ha, ha wait to that happens(god please no) plus we all know the Japanese don't like our ideas with MK, GTA, Halo being too "bloody" or distasteful to them so I'm sure the fatalities would also suck royal ass from what we know.

If no USA company doesn't pick it up, I'd rather see MK die our American. Just look at Capcom/US tried to do with SF the movie in an "MK attempt" the game sucked royally and was crap. Only MK can do digitized people well. Either way MK is still one of the best, most well known fighters ever made. Period. Nobody can change that, top 100 games of all time notice an MK game always pops up so I rest my case.


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...Notice they keep saying "SALES of MK vs. DC are nearing 2 mil SHIPPED?" SHIPPED and SOLD are not the same thing.

To Midway it is. Midway is selling their product to retail distributors, not the public itself. Whether or not a store has a pile of unsold copies doesn't affect Midway at all. Those stores still have to pay for the copies they ordered.
As long as Midway has to keep shipping copies, that means the game is selling and stores are selling out and need to order more.
What did you think, stores send Midway a sum of money each time they sell a copy of MKvsDCU?
Great post right here ^. Either way you look at it MKDC is selling and doing well, some people just don't want to admit due to personal hatred or dislike of the game I've discovered. Sadly it may not be enough to save Midway. I agree with Mineout and many others who want Psi-Ops 2...I've been peaching that for YEARS ever since the first one....such an underrated game and one of Midway's best games ever made, period.
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FDMK
02/15/2009 01:07 AM (UTC)
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ErmaSco Wrote:
Was that really the right way to say that the debt is 250,000,000 ?
Before MKvsDCU was released Midway had 167,000,000 and now you will find out that they have much more .

They can repay the debt but after that they wont be able to operate ,so this is why they used Chapter 11.

Midway has $167,000,000 in total assets, not total cash flow. True, some of it may be cash, but assets usually consist of things like buildings, all the stuff in those buildings, intellectual properties, etc. When you see $167,000,000, don't think that's the actual amount of cash they have in the bank.
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02/15/2009 01:15 AM (UTC)
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I don't want to argue or offend anyone, so I won't point fingers, but it appears that some of the people here are really prejudiced, biased and/or ignorant. And I'm curious if it dazzles anyone else's eyes, too.
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02/15/2009 01:25 AM (UTC)
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Mortalman Wrote:
I don't want to argue or offend anyone, so I won't point fingers, but it appears that some of the people here are really prejudiced, biased and/or ignorant. And I'm curious if it dazzles anyone else's eyes, too.


you must speaking of the Midway/MK team can do no wrong bunch.
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02/15/2009 01:36 AM (UTC)
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WarriorPrincess Wrote:
Mortalman Wrote:
I don't want to argue or offend anyone, so I won't point fingers, but it appears that some of the people here are really prejudiced, biased and/or ignorant. And I'm curious if it dazzles anyone else's eyes, too.


you must speaking of the MK team can do no wrong bunch.


...both sides have their moments.
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MK vs DC = Shitiest MK Game Ever! Special Forces is a 10/10 in comparison! Jesus Christ you this site is lame as hell with all the injustice pimping.....

02/15/2009 01:57 AM (UTC)
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Mortalman Wrote:
I don't want to argue or offend anyone, so I won't point fingers, but it appears that some of the people here are really prejudiced, biased and/or ignorant. And I'm curious if it dazzles anyone else's eyes, too.


Prejudice and bias have nothing to do with it. When I play a game I call it like it is... If its good, I call it good. If its a piece of s**t, I call it a piece of s**t.

All I see when I play MKvsDC is s**t.

What it could have been with all MK characters, backgrounds, and blood........
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02/15/2009 03:43 AM (UTC)
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Ironically, I wasn't talking about you, but if the cap fits, wear it tongue
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ErmaSco
02/15/2009 04:10 AM (UTC)
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fuzzdork Wrote:
ErmaSco Wrote:
Was that really the right way to say that the debt is 250,000,000 ?
Before MKvsDCU was released Midway had 167,000,000 and now you will find out that they have much more .

They can repay the debt but after that they wont be able to operate ,so this is why they used Chapter 11.

Midway has $167,000,000 in total assets, not total cash flow. True, some of it may be cash, but assets usually consist of things like buildings, all the stuff in those buildings, intellectual properties, etc. When you see $167,000,000, don't think that's the actual amount of cash they have in the bank.


Yeah you are right sad
So, ........it is the end isnt it ?
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JayboH
02/15/2009 04:16 AM (UTC)
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you must speaking of the Midway/MK team can do no wrong bunch.


Right. Defensive much? They fuck up all the time. MK vs DC turned out great outside of bugs though... as a fighting game, when compared to recent efforts, that is.

This can't be denied. Sales and games played prove it. I am not attacking those who disliked the game. I can however state an opinion about those who are fanatical about preaching hatred about the game every. single. chance. they. get.

Some love it, and some dislike it. It just isn't for some people. It isn't some godawful game though, for the type of game it is.
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